What casinos have the best payouts UK?

[colinsunderland]

You can reduce payments in new deals. Still no mentioning of breaking contracts.

If you offer a lifetime commission of 30% for all new players you sign up, then a few years later say, oh, we will actually only pay you 5% unless you refer 5 new customers every month, then that is a breach of contract. (Just a note to anyone reading Videoslots have not done this, but others have)

The example you referred to was sure 100% correct for a revshare affiliate so no need to ask my friends at the affiliate department. In this particular case it was a new player depositing €10 and taking a 100% bonus. NO casino would want to pay anything for a player like that but still you use that as an example.

On Skybet 25% rev share, for that exact same customer, I would have been paid around £2 (+35 as was on a hybrid deal)

What if the affiliate in you're example above was on a hybrid with VS? Then he would actually have a commission well above 100% of what the casino earned(4.4 Hybrid in the VS standard affiliate agreement). What would you have said then?

Well thats how CPA payments work isn't it? Your baseline of 5 euro a customer CPA is WELL below industry average. 5% and 10 euro on a hybrid is too.

Feel like I'm part of derealing an excellent thread created by bamberfishcake for another purpose, so maybe a moderator can move this posts to another thread? @dionysus , @dunover

Lets move away from affiliate talk, I was responding to a post suggesting affiliates are taking large amounts of money at the expense of players. I obviously picked Videoslots as an example, as their affiliate scheme is one of the worst worldwide, but also as they have a massive customer base here, so a lot will play, and should know, despite that post I responded to, affiliates do not take a large chunk of profit from you.

I'm presuming you are Mattias?

 

[m0nkeyboy]

Back on thread!!! Play Ojo are doing lower RTPs as well... Certainly on play and go and Red tiger.
Just sticking it here if people want to add to spreasheet... happy to get numbers

 

[dealer wins]

Back on thread!!! Play Ojo are doing lower RTPs as well... Certainly on play and go and Red tiger.
Just sticking it here if people want to add to spreasheet... happy to get numbers

Ive been trying to find OJO RTPs, they seem to have disappeared from their website.

 

[m0nkeyboy]

Ive been trying to find OJO RTPs, they seem to have disappeared from their website.

They are still there - normally under the question mark bottom right for play n go. My understanding (and please correct me if i am wrong) is that they have to show it but sometimes it takes a while to find.

I have found that the quickest to look at tends to be the play n go ones as if people are using lower rtps these seem to always be lowered and they are easy to find.

 

[Greigssy]

I've just noticed William Hill seem to have opted for a lower version RTP on Red Tiger slots released in the last few months.
Sitting around 93% from 95-96%
Most have a 3% progressive contribution so 90% in reality.

 

[bamberfishcake]

Back on thread!!! Play Ojo are doing lower RTPs as well... Certainly on play and go and Red tiger.
Just sticking it here if people want to add to spreasheet... happy to get numbers

Any numbers you want to throw in the thread will be added to the table.

Tend to do the same games as, in the main, it seems they reduce on one they reduce on all.

 

[Sonict]

Ive opened Immortal Romance. Checked the paytable whilst open, checked the game info. Nothing showing the RTP for me.

The RTP is in the helpfile. In the HTML5 version, click on the Question Mark "?" in the upper left.

 

[DreamRJ]

I suspect the reason Videoslots decided to ditch the red tiger jackpot versions was because the UK players was noticing the RTP was below par. I sure as hell have noticed the lower RTP on them when they had the jackpot versions available. I do think that people kept seeing that the RTP was around 93% for the slots, then 3% ish for the jackpot chances and building so it means it would be around 90% as someone said above, which I agree with.

A table like the OP is very useful to compare between the top online casinos because then it helps players know which casinos they should avoid if they care a lot about the RTP of the slots they play. As much as I do not care that much about RTP, I do care when it does start to drop below 92%. I mean it is pretty criminal in my eyes how they are even allowed to be that low. I know casinos need to make money and the game providers too. But come on. You can not just keep fleecing us gamblers or players who just gamble every month or every few months. It is just not really fair.

I wished one day a game provider made a slot that had a 100% RTP. I mean imagine it? The game provider and casinos would not make money on that slot? I do not agree. They still would make money on that slot, just not as much. That would then depend on the variance of the slot too. If it was an High Variance slot for example, That had a max win of say 10,000X bet then that might cause casinos not to even bother hosting it. Because it would probably result in killing their profits they make.

But hey I am dreaming again. In DreamRJ dreamland

 

[Greigssy]

Paddy Power also running Red Tiger slots now at 92-94% (Daily Jackpots attached remove another 3%)

That's a few UK bookie sites dropped the RTP for Red Tiger. They were tight as fuck at 96% but they're are just a pile of shite at 92%.

Thankfully their PnG still run at the RTP, but for how long!
I fear that all slots will be running at 92% soon enough.

 

[dionysus]

soon itll make more sense to go back to the brick and mortars

 

[Kroffe]

Keeping the highest rtp-versions of the slots will become a great way to attract customers if all too many swap over to low rtp. For that reason i think there always will be some sites that keep the rtp at the normal level.

Unibet+sister sites have even started offering some png slots at 98% rtp to attract people.
Its a pretty small selection of slots, and as far as i know its only for Swedish players.
Atleast they are trying to increase the moneyflow by attracting more customers, instead of squeezing more out of the customers they have.

 

[Playford7]

Keeping the highest rtp-versions of the slots will become a great way to attract customers if all too many swap over to low rtp. For that reason i think there always will be some sites that keep the rtp at the normal level.

Unibet+sister sites have even started offering some png slots at 98% rtp to attract people.
Its a pretty small selection of slots, and as far as i know its only for Swedish players.
Atleast they are trying to increase the moneyflow by attracting more customers, instead of squeezing more out of the customers they have.

Totally agree, with the lowering of RTP it could be used as a great marketing tool for some bigger casinos whom can afford it to offer the max RTP and use it to get more players.
If the smaller ones can’t then tough shit, clip joints have had it to easy for to long, I certainly won’t shed a tear when they fold, and they are loads to the uk market.
heard many a streamer stating ‘RTP’ doesn’t matter, haha bless them, trying to keep promoting the crappy casino they have a deal with in a positive light.
Also one thing i often wonder, should a casino have to pay zero affiliate earnings to the affiliate then Surerly the player would benefit more, I mean sky seem to be doing ok..

 

[bamberfishcake]

Unibet+sister sites have even started offering some png slots at 98% rtp to attract people

I have it on good authority that is solely because of my Unibet survey response when i told them the best thing they did was keep their RTP high. The Swedes have me to thank for that, of course, it was all me!

should a casino have to pay zero affiliate earnings to the affiliate

Definitely another area casinos will be looking to squeeze. Im no expert but is it not easier to direct traffic now than say 5 or 10 years ago.

I also wonder if any casinos might start reserving their higher RTP versions for VIP's.

 

[Kroffe]

Noticed stakelogic is at 94.5% at vs.
Atleast the Super wilds megaways slot.
Normal is 96%

 

[bamberfishcake]

LOW RTP ALERT: MANSION CASINO

Check what you play as they are running lower RTP versions of what i checked on PlaynGo.

Remember - Lower RTP = Lower Payout % from the Casino.

 

[slotplayet1929]

Anyone know what coral are running their playngo at as there is no mention of the RTP anywhere in the help file on book of dead

 

[bamberfishcake]

Anyone know what coral are running their playngo at as there is no mention of the RTP anywhere in the help file on book of dead

Thats a great question. Should be shown in the help file but i know a couple of people checked recently and they were running at the lower versions, around 94%.

I think i would need to reset password etc to get into Coral as i have not logged on there for a while but I believe they are one of the casinos choosing to offer less RTP to their players.

Somebody else may be able to confirm but im pretty sure that if you want the higher RTP versions then stay away from Coral.

 

[bamberfishcake]

Here is the RTP list for February. This list shows the casinos that use the higher payout versions of slots.

By no means a comprehensive list, I check a lot but not every single game. One thing i have found is if its a lower RTP version on one slot, it tends to be lower on a few.

Remember, these were only checked this week but could be changed since posting so 'check the rtp in the help files before playing'.

Some things of note regarding RTP this month, for me, would be that Cashmio are operating Wild Frames at a lower RTP setting of 94.72%. I am awaiting a response as its the ONLY game i can find at a lower RTP and i have checked a few. I am unable to highlight them in blue on the list until i know.

The majority of casinos i play seem to be keeping their RTP at a maximum Perhaps some reps can confirm if they really are MAX RTP casinos on all games as i am suggesting in the list below.

Coral and Gala Casinos gave their customers lower versions of RTP than advertised. More information can be found here

GVC - Coral and Galacasino showing the wrong RTP to players, possible breach of license

A couple of points to mention as the list has changed slightly:

Casinos using lower RTP versions are in Red.

Casinos I found MAX RTP versions, on every game checked, are in Blue.

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The list is how i measure and record RTP not a measure of how well i think a casino is run.

There are many other factors to consider and other threads for that but if you want the biggest RTP and the best chance of return I hope this helps.

 

[Playford7]

The ones you win at and pay you.

 

[bamberfishcake]

Had an email back from Cashmio regarding RTP

Shame to see the reduction but nice to get a quick, straight to the point reply.

I think ill concentrate on newer games for next months list.

 

[SpinUk]

Here is the RTP list for February. This list shows the casinos that use the higher payout versions of slots.

By no means a comprehensive list, I check a lot but not every single game. One thing i have found is if its a lower RTP version on one slot, it tends to be lower on a few.

Remember, these were only checked this week but could be changed since posting so 'check the rtp in the help files before playing'.

Some things of note regarding RTP this month, for me, would be that Cashmio are operating Wild Frames at a lower RTP setting of 94.72%. I am awaiting a response as its the ONLY game i can find at a lower RTP and i have checked a few. I am unable to highlight them in blue on the list until i know.

The majority of casinos i play seem to be keeping their RTP at a maximum Perhaps some reps can confirm if they really are MAX RTP casinos on all games as i am suggesting in the list below.

Coral and Gala Casinos gave their customers lower versions of RTP than advertised. More information can be found here

GVC - Coral and Galacasino showing the wrong RTP to players, possible breach of license

A couple of points to mention as the list has changed slightly:

Casinos using lower RTP versions are in Red.

Casinos I found MAX RTP versions, on every game checked, are in Blue.

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The list is how i measure and record RTP not a measure of how well i think a casino is run.

There are many other factors to consider and other threads for that but if you want the biggest RTP and the best chance of return I hope this helps.

Trada doing well there

 

[bamberfishcake]

I think this is the first marketing email i have received mentioning RTP.

From Fun Casino stating 'Book Of Pharao has a higher RTP than most other games with similar features'.

 

[ESCJAMIE]

Here is the RTP list for February. This list shows the casinos that use the higher payout versions of slots.

By no means a comprehensive list, I check a lot but not every single game. One thing i have found is if its a lower RTP version on one slot, it tends to be lower on a few.

Remember, these were only checked this week but could be changed since posting so 'check the rtp in the help files before playing'.

Some things of note regarding RTP this month, for me, would be that Cashmio are operating Wild Frames at a lower RTP setting of 94.72%. I am awaiting a response as its the ONLY game i can find at a lower RTP and i have checked a few. I am unable to highlight them in blue on the list until i know.

The majority of casinos i play seem to be keeping their RTP at a maximum Perhaps some reps can confirm if they really are MAX RTP casinos on all games as i am suggesting in the list below.

Coral and Gala Casinos gave their customers lower versions of RTP than advertised. More information can be found here

GVC - Coral and Galacasino showing the wrong RTP to players, possible breach of license

A couple of points to mention as the list has changed slightly:

Casinos using lower RTP versions are in Red.

Casinos I found MAX RTP versions, on every game checked, are in Blue.

View attachment 123945
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The list is how i measure and record RTP not a measure of how well i think a casino is run.

There are many other factors to consider and other threads for that but if you want the biggest RTP and the best chance of return I hope this helps.

Shocking RTP by @TradaCasino has this always been the way or since you changed operations ?

 

[dealer wins]

This is literally the most useful and valuable thread (along with CMs site and warnings) for all online slot players. Well done OP for doing this great research!!

 

[shadow123]

You are best to stick to the providers that only offer one set rtp,the one that the games were designed
for when they were developed, stay well clear of Red Tigers and Play and Go, did that a couple
of months ago and the difference is amazing around 6k up.

 

[bamberfishcake]

This is literally the most useful and valuable thread (along with CMs site and warnings) for all online slot players. Well done OP for doing this great research!!

Its nice to here it being of some use. Makes it worthwhile for me, thank you.

You are best to stick to the providers that only offer one set rtp,the one that the games were designed
for when they were developed, stay well clear of Red Tigers and Play and Go, did that a couple
of months ago and the difference is amazing around 6k up.

Nice one!

I thought i would miss playing PlaynGo, Red Tiger and No Limit City (never really played much Pragmatic or IGT) on Videoslots but not at all.

Its funny because i now have sites where i specifically deposit just to play those providers now on the max RTP versions.

My gameplay has definitely changed but for the better. Sometimes i found myself playing the same games over and over. This has definitely broadened my horizons and i have found some nice new games whilst still maximising my opportunity on the old ones i love by playing the higher versions on max rtp sites.

 

[nikantw]

Its nice to here it being of some use. Makes it worthwhile for me, thank you.



Nice one!

I thought i would miss playing PlaynGo, Red Tiger and No Limit City (never really played much Pragmatic or IGT) on Videoslots but not at all.

Its funny because i now have sites where i specifically deposit just to play those providers now on the max RTP versions.

My gameplay has definitely changed but for the better. Sometimes i found myself playing the same games over and over. This has definitely broadened my horizons and i have found some nice new games whilst still maximising my opportunity on the old ones i love by playing the higher versions on max rtp sites.

Don't forget stakelogic (already lower RTP versions at VS) and keep an eye at netent too (lower RTP versions announced on future games).

 

[lewisnadasurf]

Thanks i only really use SlotsMillion for my monthlies - i never looked at their RTP if im honest - just had a check on Reactoonz and BOD - and they're at MAX as well.

 

[bamberfishcake]

Don't forget stakelogic (already lower RTP versions at VS) and keep an eye at netent too (lower RTP versions announced on future games).

Yes im going to add Stakelogic to the list and im sure Netent will appear soon.

The list may simply progress into a who's who of which casinos offer lower paying versions of slots and which casinos offer the best.

Since ive started this more of my money goes to Unibet and i will be depositing with others like LV Bet soon.

I just need to shake off the attraction of the VS rewards. Still the best by a mile for me though i might open up more if i deposit more elsewhere. Hopefully by the end of this year there will be one casino to rule them all.

Max RTP, 24 Hour Service, Smooth Operation, Great Rep on CM, Decent loyalty/VIP scheme and fast and varied Payment Methods. Not necessarily in that order and i dont think those elements are too much to ask for or too much for a professional outfit to offer.

They may not reap the rewards immediately but this kind of casino would clean up once word got around.

 

[geordiecolin]

I really think that this section deserves so much more attention. I will contribute

 

[geordiecolin]

Diving into Guts with a few bob

 

[bamberfishcake]

I really think that this section deserves so much more attention. I will contribute

If you get a chance to check a few just ping them in the thread or pm if you prefer.

You've probably noticed that the casinos with lower versions buck that trend. If theres a risk of lower RTP on that site because if they've opted for lower on one game they usually opt for lower on the others.

New games i think are the ones to look out for and i think different games in the list each month is the easiest way to keep a broader eye. Plus some of the ones that used to use max seem to be slowly sneaking some of the newer in on lower.

Anything you want to add or do just go for it. Its our thread.

We just need another 28 volunteers or so for real time alerts

 

[geordiecolin]

I looked in Guts last night but it was a bit pointless because you have already covered them. In BGO they seem to range from the top rtp to the bottom end rtp's and most of the games that you have highlighted are not available in BGO. I will find some data to add soon

 

[bamberfishcake]

I looked in Guts last night but it was a bit pointless because you have already covered them. In BGO they seem to range from the top rtp to the bottom end rtp's and most of the games that you have highlighted are not available in BGO. I will find some data to add soon

Not pointless, at least we have an idea that Guts are probably still Max RTP as of today

BGO still not taken heed of the RTP revolution!

Data good in my book.

 

[Reelsoffun]

All this RTP bashing really isn't seeing the full picture IMO.

Yes you got casino "A" with top RTP games typically +2% on Casinos "B,C,D" etc

But what i have found is the ones with higher RTP give like 0% back in loyalty, whereas places like VS for example ( as that seems to the the site most bitched about for lower RTP ) to an average player will most likely get the 2% or more back in stuff like trophies, jackpot wheels, level ups, clash of spins, weekend booster, free daily and weekly battles.

To those that will say but you need 2500 XP for the battles etc well lower RTP games contribute more XP towards them and your booster anyway so again not all doom and gloom.

I just don't think people are always seeing the bigger picture on this subject to be honest. The casinos with higher RTP will either follow suit in time or are making it up somewhere else eg loyalty or slower withdrawals etc ( and we all know how much casinos make on slow or reversed withdraws )

With 24 Hour live chat, Reliable operation, a rep on here and fast payment methods, on top of the loyalty stuff VS is still my go to casino despite some lower RTPs on some games.

To expect all this and highest RTPs is just asking for your cake and eating it I recon..........

 

[geordiecolin]

All this RTP bashing really isn't seeing the full picture IMO.

Yes you got casino "A" with top RTP games typically +2% on Casinos "B,C,D" etc

But what i have found is the ones with higher RTP give like 0% back in loyalty, whereas places like VS for example ( as that seems to the the site most bitched about for lower RTP ) to an average player will most likely get the 2% or more back in stuff like trophies, jackpot wheels, level ups, clash of spins, weekend booster, free daily and weekly battles.

To those that will say but you need 2500 XP for the battles etc well lower RTP games contribute more XP towards them and your booster anyway so again not all doom and gloom.

I just don't think people are always seeing the bigger picture on this subject to be honest. The casinos with higher RTP will either follow suit in time or are making it up somewhere else eg loyalty or slower withdrawals etc ( and we all know how much casinos make on slow or reversed withdraws )

With 24 Hour live chat, Reliable operation, a rep on here and fast payment methods, on top of the loyalty stuff VS is still my go to casino despite some lower RTPs on some games.

To expect all this and highest RTPs is just asking for your cake and eating it I recon..........

Considering that Videoslots still see most of my deposits I can not be accused of being narrow minded on the subject of RTP. However information is never a bad thing when it comes to choices

 

[Reelsoffun]

Considering that Videoslots still see most of my deposits I can not be accused of being narrow minded on the subject of RTP. However information is never a bad thing when it comes to choices

I agree, I just wanted to highlight that there is often more to it and its not all just black and white.

 

[bamberfishcake]

All this RTP bashing really isn't seeing the full picture IMO.

Yes you got casino "A" with top RTP games typically +2% on Casinos "B,C,D" etc

But what i have found is the ones with higher RTP give like 0% back in loyalty, whereas places like VS for example ( as that seems to the the site most bitched about for lower RTP ) to an average player will most likely get the 2% or more back in stuff like trophies, jackpot wheels, level ups, clash of spins, weekend booster, free daily and weekly battles.

To those that will say but you need 2500 XP for the battles etc well lower RTP games contribute more XP towards them and your booster anyway so again not all doom and gloom.

I just don't think people are always seeing the bigger picture on this subject to be honest. The casinos with higher RTP will either follow suit in time or are making it up somewhere else eg loyalty or slower withdrawals etc ( and we all know how much casinos make on slow or reversed withdraws )

With 24 Hour live chat, Reliable operation, a rep on here and fast payment methods, on top of the loyalty stuff VS is still my go to casino despite some lower RTPs on some games.

To expect all this and highest RTPs is just asking for your cake and eating it I recon..........

Agree in lots of ways. Top RTP alone does not mean a top casino to me also.

Most of my money still goes to Videoslots because of the rewards.

Im going to rotate the list a bit to try and give a fair reflection and the right impression. For example, All British were at the top of the list because i did it alphabetically last time but they are one of my top casinos.

For me its just about choosing to play the higher versions and being informed enough to make that choice.

Even if all casinos follow suit whilst there is a premium product i.e. Book Of Dead @ 96.21% there will be a premium demand. Only time will tell but even if they all get together and lower, it creates a gap for new casinos who want to do everything to nick a share of the market maybe. If all UK casinos were doing Book Of Dead around 94% i would bust my arse to start my own casino as i think you could make a fortune advertising that fact alone.

Its as simple as doing a list and sharing for me, but happy for any RTP bashing or defending to occur as its a forum of course

 

[nikantw]

Now that N1 casino lowered the RTP on PnG, Pragmatic, Nolimit, Red Tiger,......
can you recommend a good casino with fast payments and Pragmatic/PnG at full RTP?

 

[bamberfishcake]

Now that N1 casino lowered the RTP on PnG, Pragmatic, Nolimit, Red Tiger,......
can you recommend a good casino with fast payments and Pragmatic/PnG at full RTP?

I use Unibet a lot at the minute but not sure if they will have the best payment options for you.

Then theres Guts, Rizk, Casumo and Casino Calzone that have all been ok for me and at last check had max on all.

Im sure theres a few more though. I need to spread my wings a bit myself so if you find anything else please let me know.

 

[Kroffe]

Betsson group uses full rtp as far as i know. (betsson,nordicbet,betsafe)

 

[bamberfishcake]

Betsson group uses full rtp as far as i know. (betsson,nordicbet,betsafe)

Thats a group i think i need to check out, ive seen a lot of good things about them in the forum.

 

[bigbear]

Excellent thread and thanks to the OP for putting in the work.Wondered if you had any of the stats for Sky Vegas?

 

[asidea]

Anyone received email from Guts, that say they're transferring player data to another platform?New ownership now i think.

 

[bamberfishcake]

Excellent thread and thanks to the OP for putting in the work.Wondered if you had any of the stats for Sky Vegas?

Somebody did post saying all Sky Vegas were max. I have an account but not used them for a while.

I would check the help files before playing.

As im switching more to the sites that offer the best i am sure they will make the list soon.

 

[pinnit2014]

Somebody did post saying all Sky Vegas were max. I have an account but not used them for a while.

I would check the help files before playing.

As im switching more to the sites that offer the best i am sure they will make the list soon.

Might not be a mammoth task as they have limited providers (Netent, some BTG, Blueprint, IGT (crap), Barcrest (crap) and a few aint heard of - plus their shitty 'creation' games, super crap.)

 

[bamberfishcake]

Anyone received email from Guts, that say they're transferring player data to another platform?New ownership now i think.

Had the same email.

There was another thread opened about Rizk doing the same. I guess a few others may follow but for now i dont think it makes much difference.

I noticed Rizk have stopped their races also.

Heres the thread in case your interested

Rizk moving from MT Secure Trade

 

[bamberfishcake]

Here is the list for March.

By no means a comprehensive list please check before playing. These have been checked over the last couple of days and show which casinos have the highest paying versions of slots or highest RTP.

BLUE - UK Casinos found to offer the highest RTP versions of every game.

RED - UK Casinos providing lower paying RTP versions of slots.

Worth noting, as always, having only high RTP is not the mark of a good casino. All of the casinos listed I have played at before with no specific problems.

Worth mentioning:

I check a lot on Kaboo and was shocked to find Pixies Of The Forest on a lower setting. All of their new stuff and everything else i check, which is any game from the providers listed, is max RTP.

All British Casino have only IGT games to watch out for whereas some others, Grosvenor and Dunder, have multiple providers on lower settings but none of the games i chose for this month.

Also could not find any Stakelogic anywhere....have i missed something? Thought they were newly licenced for UK and saw Expendables Megaways before but they seem to have gone?

Played at 21Casino for the first time this month and all seen and played were max RTP. I will add them to next months list.

Finally, Videoslots have lowered Piggy Riches Megaways to a lower paying version from 94.72% to 92.67%.

 

[nikantw]

.....
Videoslots have lowered Piggy Riches Megaways to a lower paying version from 94.72% to 92.67%.

I think it's all Red Tiger games lowered to 92%.
Remember, below 93% you don't even get the extra XP points for low RTP.

 

[bamberfishcake]

I think it's all Red Tiger games lowered to 92%.
Remember, below 93% you don't even get the extra XP points for low RTP.

Didnt know that. Would have thought all games counted and didnt check much Red Tiger as dont play it on there anymore. I literally avoid them mostly now.

Good battle weekend coming up though....hopefully.....Halloween Jack and DOA!

Lets hope they never do Piggy Riches Megaways and Pirates Plenty