UEFA Euro 2024: Expectations?

I still don't think they deserved anything out of this game.

Pure luck and a moment of brilliance from one of the best players in the world right now has just saved our arses.

Southgate still needs to piss off though.
They should go on and win this game.

But if they do, Southgate still deserves to kop major criticism. He has been dumb lucky to get bailed out like that.
 
Not sure about those subs to be honest with ya. If they equalise then it means we have no kane for a penalty :(
 
The clues are there for Southgate, with regard to when England clearly look like much more of an attacking threat.

Unfortunately, Southgate wouldn't know a clue was, even if said clue got down on its knees and sucked him off until his scrotum was more drained looking than a dried prune.
And then shouted out the words "HEY GARETH, I AM A BIG FUCKING CLUE!!"....while Southgate removes his condom.

So he'll go back to playing Southgateball and hope for another miracle bailout. Yawn.
 
The real problem is that the player best suited to breaking these defences down is sat back home in Manchester.
Jack Grealish would have relished coming on in the last 20 minutes of these matches and tearing the defences apart, he is always a penalty waiting to happen. No other player has shown the desire to do that and i couldnt believe at the time how some players that were only going to play a bit part were picked for the squad ahead of Grealish.
But that ship has sailed and Southgate needs to drop Stones, Trippier, Foden and Walker for the Swiss game or it will be business as usual, 500 sideways passes, 30 forward passes and a 1-0 or 2-0 defeat.
 
My theory is that Southgate wants to get the sack. Then he can claim his salary from the remaining part of his contract and move into an even more lucrative club manager role. Spain were a breath of fresh air. High tempo and press, run forward, pass forward, create chances, score goals. These simple ideas are way beyond Gareth. Good players, shit manager.
 
How the fuck does that tosser Mouthgate stumble into the QFs yet again? Oh yeah, and somehow end up in the half of the draw where none of the top teams can possibly meet England until the final?

Mainoo had a few good games for an underperforming ManUre who finished mid table. In the team.
Guehe and Ezeboy helped relegation threatened Crystal Palace to a little unbeaten run (who?) and straight in the team.

Grealish, Maddison and Branthwaite more attacking-minded midfielders and defender not included. Why?

Of course! Konsa, who sometimes plays for Aston Villa gets picked ahead of Branthwaite. I wonder why? *Of course, it wouldn't be Southgate's old and favourite club would it?*

Bellingham is not played in a way to reflect his strengths, nor is Kane or Foden. Bellingham has been shite since the first half of the Serbia match, timely goal aside.

Sakashit has done fuck-all apart from lose the ball consistently and shouldn't have started a game since the Serbia match. Cole Palmer can play his position twice as well. Anthony Gordon needs to play too.

The guy is obtuse, intransigent and single dimensional with a crap plan A and no plan B at all. It's almost embarrassing England are in the QF when better, more spirited sides have gone home. Even if we somehow stumble our way to the final (where we will be hammered as there will be a top team in it guaranteed) the twat should go, go so fast you see dust behind him.
 
2016–2017: Promotion to senior team role
Southgate was put in temporary charge of the senior England team on 27 September 2016, when Sam Allardyce resigned.


I miss Big Sam! 🥹

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In front of a small telly today at Empire Casino, France vs Belgium. Me, Camden Hells, and 10 outstanding quality chicken wings in a honey souce :D


... also, plenty on Chinese around, all supporting Belgium, but it's only by the look of it as many support both, lol.


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All is looking good anyway, and they give free money here, but only sometimes. That's that most important, lol.

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In front of a small telly today at Empire Casino, France vs Belgium. Me, Camden Hells, and 10 outstanding quality chicken wings in a honey souce :D


... also, plenty on Chinese around, all supporting Belgium, but it's only by the look of it as many support both, lol.


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All is looking good anyway, and they give free money here, but only sometimes. That's that most important, lol.

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I'm surprised you could get on the cabinets in the Empire when the Chinese are in, they love 'em. I just slope off down the bottom bit and have go on Roaring Forties and Sizzling Hot or whatever the volatile Novo one like St*rb*rst is.
 
I'm surprised you could get on the cabinets in the Empire when the Chinese are in, they love 'em. I just slope off down the bottom bit and have go on Roaring Forties and Sizzling Hot or whatever the volatile Novo one like St*rb*rst is.
Hah, yeah they truly love them and often amazed-looking discuss a slot machine with dragons, etc.

Casinos here in the central spot have even slots that you won't find elsewhere; they are mainly Chinese culture themed to attract these people.

I was explaining many times that a good chunk of Novovatic's just look different but inside are essentially the same thing as this and that game..., you know what I mean.

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Had to ask one of them for a tenner to go and cash my ticket as im banned here. All worked fine luckily.
 
Hah, yeah they truly love them and often amazed-looking discuss a slot machine with dragons, etc.

Casinos here in the central spot have even slots that you won't find elsewhere; they are mainly Chinese culture themed to attract these people.

I was explaining many times that a good chunk of Novovatic's just look different but inside are essentially the same thing as this and that game..., you know what I mean.

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Had to ask one of them for a tenner to go and cash my ticket as im banned here. All worked fine luckily.
See this one, they're chasing that 20k IGT jackpot

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I never seen anyone winning anything decent on those IGT machines. They look like those space ships with crazy sounds but give you pish in general. Novovatic's are better. And it's best to play those where there is random Joker tossing about. It's an extra winning opportunity besides their games' own jackpots. I got them both, many times. Playing only once, twice a month. Maybe just lucky, never know.
 
More images from the EURO 2024 Casinomeister's thread, all real-life as usual, but this time from a different location—the Hippodrome Casino. What is it like here? Not bad. I can put my roll-up in an ashtray, and they have a Belgian beer.

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Is that upstairs where you can play in a smoking area? Sort of covered outdoors bit IIRC.
 
More gold in the YT comments re: Southgate.....

Southgate wears swimming goggles when he drinks a glass of water.

Southgate wears gloves to clean his hands.

Southgate the type of guy who has stabilisers on his bike

Southgate the type of guy who gets in the bath with arm bands on

Southgate wears steel capped boots to a pedicure…

Southgate eats dry toast with a glass of lukewarm water.

Southgate wipes his arse after going for a piss :laugh::laugh:

Southgate looks both ways before walking across his living room

Southgate the type of guy to flush the toilet after farting.

Southgate the type of guy to ask for planning permission to build a sandcastle

When Southgate plays GTA he stops at the traffic lights

Southgate wears a safety helmet when he goes for a walk

Southgate puts sun cream on before he goes to bed

Southgate wears safety goggles to cut his toenails.

Missionary with socks on, is the best description of Southgate's England performance I've heard.
(good bloody grief :laugh:)

And then one that even I would not dare think of....

Even Oceangate do subs better than Southgate. :eek: (OUCH!)
 
Looking at this handy chart, I briefly went into mystic mack mode: the 2024 final will be france vs england.

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Too bad the 2 "worst" countries are in the same bracket, otherwise I'd opt for Suisse - Turkiye, but since that's not possible let's have Germany - Netherlands for old times sake.

France and England have been 2 of the most boring countries to watch. And the whole tournament hasn't been all that great to begin with. Austria - Turkey was the best match in the round of 16, perhaps the best I've watched (missed a couple of the early ones).
 
Too bad the 2 "worst" countries are in the same bracket, otherwise I'd opt for Suisse - Turkiye, but since that's not possible let's have Germany - Netherlands for old times sake.

France and England have been 2 of the most boring countries to watch. And the whole tournament hasn't been all that great to begin with. Austria - Turkey was the best match in the round of 16, perhaps the best I've watched (missed a couple of the early ones).

That would be a spicy final!

I missed the game earlier, slightly surprised turkey got through there, Austria looked a very good team in the group stage. Although on past tournaments you'd expect Turkey to win.

We excel at boring football under Gareth, opposition fans and players start to lose the will to live, then make a mistake and we snatch the result 😂
 
Too bad the 2 "worst" countries are in the same bracket, otherwise I'd opt for Suisse - Turkiye, but since that's not possible let's have Germany - Netherlands for old times sake.

France and England have been 2 of the most boring countries to watch. And the whole tournament hasn't been all that great to begin with. Austria - Turkey was the best match in the round of 16, perhaps the best I've watched (missed a couple of the early ones).
DUDE, this is the Euros football contest, not the Eurovision song contest.

Make up your bloody mind what language you are speaking yeah?

:p :laugh:
 
An interesting last 16 round. Almost a sign that the landscape is changing a little bit, due to how competitive many of the underdogs were in those games.
Kind of emphasises the point that games are never won on paper, they are won on grass.

The Swiss and Turks were underdogs for their games, yet both deservedly progressed.

The major outsiders going into the last 16 (Slovakia, Georgia and Slovenia) were all very much in their games.
Georgia eventually got outclassed, but were never outfought. A bright spot in the tournament for sure.

Slovakia were extremely unlucky not to progress, if there had been 4 minutes of injury time instead of 6, they were through. The equaliser left them shell shocked a la Bayern vs United in the 99 CL final.

Slovenia had one big chance late on to cause a massive upset. The MOTM was the Portuguese goalie, which says it all really.

Denmark - undone by VAR not once, but twice in the space of a minute, which turned the tide of their game against Germany, who have looked a little shaky these last 2 games.

Belgium - didn't really play that well, but were undone by a very unlucky OG late on.
Were France EVER going to score from open play without a piece of dumb luck to help them out?
I don't think so tbh.

Romania - were largely dominated by the Dutch, but the Dutch didn't land the killer blow until the last 10 minutes.

Spain were the clear favourites going into the last 16. And IMO they remain so, going into the QFs.
 
oks Peeps I've added a Poll about first QFs.. Spain vs Germany & Portugal vs France.

of course rooting "la roja" .. France must be also the Winner but...

Salut!
 
An interesting last 16 round. Almost a sign that the landscape is changing a little bit, due to how competitive many of the underdogs were in those games.
Kind of emphasises the point that games are never won on paper, they are won on grass.

The Swiss and Turks were underdogs for their games, yet both deservedly progressed.

The major outsiders going into the last 16 (Slovakia, Georgia and Slovenia) were all very much in their games.
Georgia eventually got outclassed, but were never outfought. A bright spot in the tournament for sure.

Slovakia were extremely unlucky not to progress, if there had been 4 minutes of injury time instead of 6, they were through. The equaliser left them shell shocked a la Bayern vs United in the 99 CL final.

Slovenia had one big chance late on to cause a massive upset. The MOTM was the Portuguese goalie, which says it all really.

Denmark - undone by VAR not once, but twice in the space of a minute, which turned the tide of their game against Germany, who have looked a little shaky these last 2 games.

Belgium - didn't really play that well, but were undone by a very unlucky OG late on.
Were France EVER going to score from open play without a piece of dumb luck to help them out?
I don't think so tbh.

Romania - were largely dominated by the Dutch, but the Dutch didn't land the killer blow until the last 10 minutes.

Spain were the clear favourites going into the last 16. And IMO they remain so, going into the QFs.
About time the clown Mouthgate realised that fact.
 
Odds for the final eight... and a sense of deja vu for some when compared with the pre-tournament prices.
  • Spain are the big mover, from 9.6 to 5.3
  • Germany from 6.6 to 6.0
  • Portugal drifted from 8.2 to 10.5
  • France from 5.3 to 6.0
... and on the easier side of the draw
  • England unchanged at 5.0 (and WH are offering it yet again as an enhanced special :laugh: )
  • Switzerland shortened from 95 to 18
  • Netherlands shortened from 21 to 8.2
  • Turkey shortened from 170 to 50

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Also early prices to qualify for the weekend:
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Can't see us beating the Swiss on Saturday to be honest, not if Southgate employs the same defensive orientated tactics. So infuriating. Arguably one of the best attacking squads we have enjoyed in my 50 years on the planet, but manages to make England look like Bristol City on a bad day!! ( Trust me, I have seen lots of bad days where Bristol City are concerned :-( )

In fact if anything, Southgate tries to make us play like Italy, but unlike Italy, England are nowhere near at good as defending as the Italians.

It was a poor Italian side that got torn apart by the Swiss in the 2nd round, unless England's big name players take charge on the pitch, ignoring Southgate in the equation, then I can see us going out.

Such a shame though, as we have the Bundesliga Top Scorer in Kane, La Liga's Player of the Year in Bellingham and the likes of Saka and Rice who are coming off the back of superb seasons.

Taxi for Southgate. For his luck is only keeping him in a job. Such as the luck of the side of the draws England seem to fall on recently.
 
Watched some, individually, crap England Teams over the years but this is the first time you look at their players and go: they've some Champ Manager players in there so if they don't win it, Southgate has to go. He got very lucky in the last minute game - though, Bellingham has been generally awful so he needs to go looking for the ball - Messi etc went looking for the ball, even if the team was bad, but Bellingham goes inside himself at International level - his goal bought him non criticism but that won't last forever.
 
Watched some, individually, crap England Teams over the years but this is the first time you look at their players and go: they've some Champ Manager players in there so if they don't win it, Southgate has to go
Nail hit firmly and squarely on the head. The whole country can see it too.
 
Nail hit firmly and squarely on the head. The whole country can see it too.
He deserves credit for bringing players through but they look like Individuals in a Team - never works out well. You feel like walking in and going: you, you, you, you're off your leash - England have the ability to score 3 easily in a game but for some reason, looking like they struggle past one and that has to fall (mainly) on the manager.
 
He deserves credit for bringing players through but they look like Individuals in a Team - never works out well. You feel like walking in and going: you, you, you, you're off your leash - England have the ability to score 3 easily in a game but for some reason, looking like they struggle past one and that has to fall (mainly) on the manager.
I sort of agree and disagree with you at the same time mate.

The thing is, if the following had not happened....

1. Maguire's injury ruling him out of the tournament
2. Henderson chasing the money in SA, quickly followed by insincere and weak as fuck apologies to the alphabet community, before finally returning to Europe to play some real football.

...would Guehi*, Gallagher or TAA have seen any game time at all in this tournament?
Would Guehi and Gallgher have even got into the squad?
I am not at all sure tbh. Given the choice, I think Southgate goes with who he knows.

* It's a good job Maguire was ruled out, because if he had not been, England would still be totally unaware of just how well Guehi would have acquitted himself in his debut international tournament.
Maguire might never get his place back now, especially in a post-Southgate era.

Also, look what happened in the Slovakia game.
Trippier was substituted because of INJURY (a FORCED substitution), not for tactical reasons.
Shaw STILL has not seen the field in this tournament.

Southgate seems to be so averse to change that he will only do so out of sheer desperation or because (as will be the case with Guehi's suspension for the QF) he is FORCED to make changes, per tournament rules.

If you played Southgate a game of speed chess, you would probably win before one of your pawns crossed the halfway line, because he is such a dithering risk-averse pillock who takes forever to make a move.

As for your other points, I totally agree. England have the attacking talent to blow teams away.
And with the right manager, someone who understands that defenders are frightened by sheer pace, the likes of Gordon, Bowen, Watkins and co would get plenty of minutes in an England shirt.
But with Southgate in charge? They will be a bunch of frustrated (and criminally wasted) bench warmers.

For nearly 50 years, England have been guilty of falling short in tournaments.
And a very clear common theme has emerged...the inability to score twice and/or hold onto 1-0 leads against the top teams.
Even on those rare occasions when they did score twice (eg West Germany in '70, Argentina in '98, Portugal in '00), they still bloody lost.

Certain teams (like the Spanish and Italians) can get away with scoring once and only once against the top teams. To use a baseball analogy, they are BORN CLOSERS.

England can't do that. Time and time again, they have demonstrated they are not up to that task.
 
We went through an era, to a non-Englishman, it was painful to listen to pundits and papers - bigging up teams that were, essentially, shite.

Then there comes one which actually, on paper, look decent. But yet still looks like they lack the mental acuity to deal with big games -honestly don't know where they go if they can't win this one.

England seem to lack both the ability to close and the ability to slit throats - you can win with one of those but not with neither.
 

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