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Trada moving to Aspire Global platform from 20th November

I did not want them stripped of anything, hold my hands up, I had missed certain posts and not realised I was repeating what some had already said.

No one (well defo not me) are saying anything negative about the staff and their efforts, I wish them nothing but the VERY best.

However how can we say it is the same casino, no way. Platform changed yes, no problem but so has cash out times, T&C's (And lots of them!) bonus structure, deposit fees still a grey area whether they're refunding or not, RTP's (checked Book of Dead slot as a random example and I'm sure 91.25% is not allowed in UK under their licence!)

Oh, 91.25% doesn't bother the UKGC in the slightest. They're too busy worrying about autospin and bonus buys. Player protection, see?
 
Plus the T&C's state

Winnings generated by the free spins must be wagered 50 times before any winnings relating to such are cashed out.

Heres a list of games and the wagering contributions for anyone who can't find them, as they aren't exactly in your face

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All Video Poker games
All Roulette games
All Quick Play games
All Blackjack games
Hi Lo Fever
All Baccarat games
3 Card Poker
Blood Suckers
European Roulette
Football Studio
Jackpot 6000
Keno
Big Bang
Blood Suckers
The Wish Master
Dead or Alive
Lucky Angler
Jack Hammer 2
Cloud Quest
Tower Quest
Pearls of India
Treasure Island
Mega Moolah
Rush Football Go World Cup
Rush Horses Go!
Rush Dogs Go!
Rush Cars Go!
Rush Speedway Go!
Rush Darts Live
Rush Cycling Go!
Rush Cricket Go!

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Magic Spinner

50%

All Netent games
108 Heroes Multiplier Fortunes
3888 Ways of the Dragon
7 Piggies
88 Fortunes Megaways
88 Fortunes
A Dragons Story
A While on the Nile
Acorn Pixie
Acorn Pixie
Adelia The Fortune Wielder
AFTERSHOCK
Agent Valkyrie
Alaskan Fishing
Alice Adventure
Amazing Aztecs
Amazon Queen
Ancient Egypt Classic
Ancient Fortunes Zeus
Arcane Reel Chaos
Asgard
Avalon II
Avalon
Aztec Temple Treasures
Babushkas
Baccarat
Bar Bar Black Sheep
Bar X Safecracker Megaways
Batman 2016
BATTLESHIP DIRECT HIT
Bier Haus
Big Apple Wins
Big Bad Wolf
Bikini Party
Birds on Wire
Blackjack
Blazin' Hot 7's
Blazing Star
Blood Bank
Blood Queen
Bloopers
Bonanza
Book Of Gold
Book of Immortals
Book of Oz Lock N Spin
Book of Oz
Book of Spells
Book of Sun Multichance
Book of the Irish
Books and Bulls
Books and Bulls
Boom Bang!
Boom Pirates
Booming Seven Deluxe
Booster
Break Da Bank Again
Bridesmaids
Buffalo Rising Megaways
Bully4U
Burning Flame
Bust The Bank
Cabaret Royale
Caishen's Gold
Candy Cash
Cash Camel
Cash Crazy
Cashapillar
Casino Holdem
Cats and Cash
Cats
Celtic Goddess
Cheeky Monkeys
Cherry Bomb Deluxe
Chilipop
Chilli Chilli Bang Bang
Chilli Gold 2
Chilli Heat
Chitty Bang
Classic Fruit
Cleopatra
Cleo's Wish
Cool Buck
Crystal Rift
Crystall Ball
Da Vinci Diamonds
Da Vinci Ways
Da Vincis Treasure
Danger! High Voltage
Deco Diamonds
Diamond Empire
Diamond Empire
Diamond Mine
Diamond Tower
Diamond Wild
DJ Wild
Dolphin Gold with Stellar Jackpots
Dolphin´s Luck 2
Double Bonus Poker 1 Hand
Double Da Vinci Diamonds
Double Play Superbet
Double Triple Chance
Downtown
Dragon King
Dragon Kingdom
Dragon Stone
Dragons Of the North
Dragonz
Dream Date
Egyptian Dreams
Egyptian Fortunes
Electric Nights
Electric Sam
Elements
Emoticoins
Enchanting Spells
Esqueleto Explosivo
Exotic Cat
Exotic Fruit
Explosive Reels
Extra Chilli
Extra Juicy
Eye of Horus
Eye of the Amulet
Fire N Hot
Fire Queen
Fishin Frenzy Megaways
Fishin Frenzy
Flame Busters
Football Star
Forbidden Throne
Forest Mania
Fortune Girl
Fortunes of Asgard
Fortunes of the Dead
Fortunium
Foxin Twins
Foxin Wins Again
Foxin' Wins Christmas Edition
Foxin Wins
Fruit blast
Fruit Boxes
Fruit vs Candy
Fruit Warp
Fruit Zen
Fruits
Funky Spin
Funsize Fireworks
Game of Thrones
Ghosts N Gold
Giant Gems
Girls with Guns I
Gladiator of Rome
Gladiators Go Wild
Glitter Gems
Glorious Empire
Gnome Wood
Gods Temple Deluxe
Gold Factory
Gold Rush
Golden Egg of Crazy Chicken Crazy Chicken Shooter
Golden Goddess
Golden Mane
Golden Princess
Golden Wisdom
Golden
Goldwyns Fairies
Good Feathers
Gorilla Go Wild
Grand Spinn Superpot
Great Rhino
Hansel & Gretel Treasure Trail
Happy Birds
Heidis Bier Haus
Holly Jolly Penguins
Hot Chilli
Hot Cross Bunnies
Hot Frootastic
Hot Spin
Huangdi - The Yellow Emperor
Humpty Dumpty
Icy Gems
Illusions 2
immortal Romance
Imperial Dragon
Inspector Gadget
Ivanhoe
Jack in the box
Jackpot Poker
Jade Butterfly
John Hunter and the Aztec Treasure
John Hunter and The Tomb Of The Scarab Queen
Joker Poker
Joker Stacks
Jolly's Gifts
Journey to the West
Jumbo Stampede
Jumbo Stampede
Jungle Jackpot
Jungle Jim and the Lost Sphinx
Jungle Jim
Jurassic Park
Jurassic World
Justice Machine
Karamba Clan
King Kong Cash
King Kong
King of Kaiju: Rampage Riches
Kitty Cash
Kronos
La Bomba
Lara Croft Temples and Tombs
Leagues of Fortune
Legend of Loki
Life of Riches
Lightning Horseman
Lightning Leopard
Lost Boys Loot
Lost Vegas
Luchadora
Lucky 3
Lucky Clover
Lucky Lady
Lucky Links
Lucky Little Gods
Lucky Stripes
Luxor
Madame Destiny
Magic Mirror Deluxe
Magic of Pandora
Magic Stars 3
Medusa 2
Medusas Golden Gaze
Mega Money Rush
Mega Moolah
MegaJackpots Cleopatra
Merlin’s Millions Superbet
Merlins Magic Mirror
Merlins Money Burst
Mermaids Millions
Midas Touch
Million Coins Respin
Miss Midas
Moby Dick
Mojo Spin
Money Farm 2
Monster Madness
Monster Wheels
Montezuma
Moon Temple
Munchkins
Mustang Gold
Mystery of LongWei
Mystique Grove
Napoleon
Not Enough Kittens
Oink Country Love
Panda Fortune
Panda Pow
Paranormal Activity
Pearl of the Orient
Pick a Fortune
Pick a Fortune
Pinata Bucks
Pinata Fiesta
Pink Elephants
Pirate Gold
Pixie Wings
Pixies of the Forest II
Pixies Of the Forest
Pixies of the Forest
Playboy
Poltava
Pretty Kitty
Prosperity Twin
Psycho
Queen of Gold
Rabbit in the Hat
Raging Rhino
Rainbow Riches Home Sweet Home
Rainbow Riches Megaways
Rainbow Riches PicknMix
Rainbow Wilds
Rainbrew
Ramses Book
Red Dragon
Red Flag Fleet
Red Flag Fleet
Red Queen Blackjack
Reel Gems
Reel Splitter
Reel Strike
Reel Talent
Renegades
Respin Rhino
Return of Kong Megaways
Rise of Egypt
Robin Hood Prince of Tweets
Robin of Sherwood
Rockabilly Wolves
ROME: RISE OF AN EMPIRE
Royal Seven XXL
Ruby Casino Queen
Rumble Rhino
Sabaton
Santa
Scrolls of Ra HD
Secret Romance
Serengeti Diamonds
Sherlock of London
Shogun of Time
Siberian Storm
Silver Lioness 4x
Skulls of Legend
Slot Gamble - Beat the Dealer
Snow Leopard
Spartacus
Spartans Legacy
Spin or Reels HD
Spin Sorceress
Spin Sorceress
Stacks O'Gold
Starmania
Stellar Jackpots – Silver Lion
Stellar Jackpots Serengeti Lions
Sugar Skulls
Super Diamond Wild Super Fast Hot Hot
Super Lucky Frog
Super Sumo
Superwilds
Sword of Destiny
Taco Brothers Saving Christmas
Taco Brothers
Take 5
Take 5
Tarzan
Tasty Street
TED
Temple of Treasures Megaways
Temple of Tut
Terminator 2
The Angler
The Cheshire Cat
The Curious Cabinet
The Dog House
The Enforcer
The Finer Reels of Life
The Fortune Pig
The Golden City
The Goonies
The Great Chicken Escape
The King
The Nutcracker
The Sand Princess
The Spin Lab
The Twisted Circus
Theatre of Night
Thunderstruck I
Thunderstruck II
Time is Money
Titans of the Sun - Hyperion
Tombstone
Treasure Island
Treasure of Horus
Treasure Of The Pyramids
Treasures of Troy
Tree of Fortune
Triple Double Da Vince Diamonds
Tutan Keno
Valhalla
Valletta Megaways
Vampire The Masquerade Las Vegas
Vegas Magic™
Vegas Nights
Viking Wilds
Wacky Panda
What A Hoot
Wicked Tales: Dark Red
Wild Antics
Wild Ape
Wild Blood
Wild Jester
Wild Pixies
Wild Play Superbet
Wild Plunder
Wild Scarabs
Wild West
Wilds Deluxe
Win sum Dim sum
Wish Upon a Leprechaun Megaways
Wish Upon a Leprechaun
Witch Pickings
Witch Pickings
Wolf Gold
Wolf Legend Megaways
Wolf riches
Wolfpack Pays
Xi You Ji
Z o d i a c
Zeus 2
Zeus God of Thunder
Zeus III
Zoom


I don't see how the banner on the first page is ASA compliant, stating 25x wagering then having a massive list of games that make it 50x or higher is misleading.
Sick they’d be safer showing the games you can play ffs..
 
Hey all!

Posting this in two parts as it comes over the 10k character count.

So..


PART ONE
Just one or two queries, whenever you have finished with all of the heavy duty work of moving...

1. My biggest concern, What’s happening to your amazing live help staff? There is no one as helpful or as welcoming as Cleo and the rest of her team.

If you’ve had to let them go you better have thrown a super Massive party for them.

In fact, they should become consultants to other casinos on how to get the best out of your love support staff.

2. With a massive pending period, can you not push AG to add a lock feature?

3. Were you generous enough to remove the bonus bans most of us here have managed to gather in the last 12 months before migration? Will the still stand?

Our CS team was probably the most difficult part of this entire migration. Thankfully though, a number of our CS Staff will be staying on for alternative roles.

As far as I am aware the bonus bans were also migrated, but this is now handled by the Aspire team and how they handle bonus bans and their reviews of such

New site needs tarting you a little. Can you customise colours to make it all the Trada colour scheme. The purple buttons need to go.

The promotion page has 2 welcome offer banners . Identical apart from the extra text underneath....Not totally clear which applies.

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Is it 10 spins? 110 spins? 10 for sign up and 100 with a deposit? Perhaps I’m just being a dumb ass.

£3.99 a spin max during wagering feels like an amount set as a trap, to those who don’t know how upstanding and honest Trada casino is.

As far as I know, we have full control of all colours on the site, so I’ll pass this one onto our design team

Good spot on the banner, I’ll get that updated this afternoon.
I can see how it can be confusing alright!

Our signup bonus is 10 no deposit spins on Book of Dead.
The first deposit bonus is a 100% match bonus.
Then, on the next 4 deposits, 25 spins are applied on each deposit.
So the full welcome package is 110 Book of Dead spins, and a 100% match bonus.

Few observations:

I am surprised you have gone with the same template as all other 50+ AG sites. As @Supababe says some further customization needed.

The "Winners" list on the front page are not from Trada, they are from all other casinos in the group which is a bit misleading.

The max £3.99 spin, that's an odd figure to exist in t&c?

The link to game contributions on the bonus page doesn't exist. Players really do need to know that majority of games only contribute 50% (or less) to wagering.

The £3.99 max bet is one we’re fighting to change. Previously it was listed a long the lines of “Any bet of £4.00 or greater” we believed this was more misleading hence why we specify £3.99. We would like to set it as our previous one at a hard £4.00.

The link itself doesn’t work? Odd. I’ll get that looked at and I’ll work on a way to make it more visible

I’m sure, given time they will iron out these issues that have been raised.

Their old platform has been bought out so it’s kind of forced their hand to move here.

I think given the amount of issues and coupled with the bad reputation AG hold, Trada should, at the earliest opportunity be looking at moving to a new platform.

There is some fantastic people at Trada, people that will bend over backwards to help you out. I think, given Trada’s excellent history and form we need to show them support and time to address all these issues.

Rob

Thanks for the support mate! Really appreciate it! :thumbsup:

Well, I certainly didn’t require my account to be closed.

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I think you’ve sent me a PM about this? I’ll get it checked out and see whats what. I’ll reply directly to your PM if that’s alright?

surely he is reaching for the whiskey.

I do like Whiskey

Well this is interesting. I made a withdrawal for over $2000 on the old website yesterday, and had $500 left in my account. Then the maintenance occurred until I was able to login today. Now I logged in to the new website, and my account has no record of my withdrawal, and my $500 has turned into $600 with a $2500 wagering requirement (apparently a $100 bonus was randomly added to my account?). I'm so confused, not sure if anyone else is having these issues. Not only is my $2000 withdrawal gone, but now I can't even withdraw the $500 that I deposited yesterday? What is going on...

Odd. Prior to migration, all withdrawals were either cancelled (and placed back in the player account) or processed.
Can you drop me a PM with your registered email address and I’ll see what’s happened for you?

Sorry @Conor@Trada and @TradaCasino for the following words, please do not take them personal.

TBH, it makes me wanna puke just to look at an Aspire templated site. Personally, I don't think there is a more deceiving casino operator than Aspire.

- Convoluted terms where you can bet your last shirt that they have people employed just to go through your play logs to find the smallest of infringements.

- Splattering the Neo Games into your face when they know that those have some of the lowest RTPs, again ripping an inexperienced player off.

- The winners' bar is yet another misleading con. It gives the impression people are winning thousands all the time.

- No sorting options whatsoever for slots

- The Deposit Method pages still looks like a 5-year old made it.

- Atrocious pending periods

- Atrocious bonus terms

- Atrocious max bet settings. Now you need to calculate before every spin whether you can still carry on with the same bet size.

- Welcome bonus restricted to one Aspire operated brand

- .......List by far not complete.

....phew, the bucket is full.

The Trada crew has some serious work ahead of them if they want to still stand out as a highly reputable casino. If not they will drown in the usual Aspire swamp of irrelevant sites that will never be the first choice for your next deposit.

Good Luck..... you will need it!



Honesty is the best policy mate, so thank you for that.

A lot of what you have mentioned above is on our list of things we will be looking at addressing with Aspire. We have always worked to improve our platform and our system for our players, and we will continue to do so.

Regarding the terms – these terms exist to protect us from bonus abuse, however, they’re not designed as traps or tricks for the regular player. If we felt a confiscation of winnings was unwarranted, unfair, or sneaky we would over rule it.

No sorting options for slots – we’re currently working on this one.

If you’ve any other points or lists, feel free to drop me a PM mate

I'm crushed. The site barely works, no sorting of the slots in any way that makes sense, half my Pragmatic games are gone, the "new" providers pop up with a message that you are leaving maltese jurisdiction, then "Server Error" and "Invalid player token"

Not even a way to reach live support, as they are now closed. My balance doesn't reflect what was in the account.... no bonus offers of any kind as promised with the migration.... What a hot mess!!



Don’t worry @bruinsdude, most of our games will be back within a month as the final bits are all migrated over.

As far as I know the “Server Error” you experienced was new site teething issues, seems to be due to games coming through the iSoftbet platform such as TigerBet Games, so that should be fixed in the next 1 – 2 hours.

And regarding the bonuses, I’m working with the CRM team to build a new relaunch bonus which will be sent out in the coming days, or early next week.
 
PART TWO

but a closer one would be casinoluck and Eric… some of Eric's early comments… Nothing changed and Eric just stopped responding…and despite rep's claims, nothing changes. Eric is still there

Hey Colin, my names Conor, nice to meet you

In all seriousness though, I understand your hesitancy. Truly I do. But the thing is I will not be leaving Casinomeister, and I’ll always be here to handle any queries or questions and work with the community here to help improve everything overall for our players.

Why are people's accounts locked is this due to the other casinos in the group if so I will not reopen my account if it means being bombarded by Karamba day and night again.

There is a known issue to some player accounts where batches of player accounts were migrated with the wrong player status, and we have almost resolved this. We will be updating all affected players once we have this resolved.

To be fair Max, the BBF they passed and surpassed standards on is now history.
What we are seeing now moving forward is a new casino carrying the Trada name, so none of the old criteria really applies now IMO.

What makes a casino a new casino?

Would you rather play at a casino you knew, or a casino you have never heard of before?

A casino whose reps are ever-present, and can help, and who you can bounce ideas and suggestions off of, or one who disappears.

We’re still TradaCasino. That much has never changed.

And we’re still the team behind TradaCasino that helped push us up to the highest Casinomeister ranking to date.
We still have input into all aspects of our operation, however somethings will take longer than others. i.e., payment speeds and RTPs.
We have always worked to improve our platform alongside the Casinomeister community and we will still continue to do so.

To everyone who has sent PMs and left comments wishing us luck, we really appreciate it, and to those members who are leaving us constructive (and sometimes unfair) criticism we will try and work on all of them!


Conor :)
 
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Guess ill put away the pitchfork.


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Hey all!

Posting this in two parts as it comes over the 10k character count.

So..


PART ONE


Our CS team was probably the most difficult part of this entire migration. Thankfully though, a number of our CS Staff will be staying on for alternative roles.

As far as I am aware the bonus bans were also migrated, but this is now handled by the Aspire team and how they handle bonus bans and their reviews of such



As far as I know, we have full control of all colours on the site, so I’ll pass this one onto our design team

Good spot on the banner, I’ll get that updated this afternoon.
I can see how it can be confusing alright!

Our signup bonus is 10 no deposit spins on Book of Dead.
The first deposit bonus is a 100% match bonus.
Then, on the next 4 deposits, 25 spins are applied on each deposit.
So the full welcome package is 110 Book of Dead spins, and a 100% match bonus.



The £3.99 max bet is one we’re fighting to change. Previously it was listed a long the lines of “Any bet of £4.00 or greater” we believed this was more misleading hence why we specify £3.99. We would like to set it as our previous one at a hard £4.00.

The link itself doesn’t work? Odd. I’ll get that looked at and I’ll work on a way to make it more visible



Thanks for the support mate! Really appreciate it! :thumbsup:



I think you’ve sent me a PM about this? I’ll get it checked out and see whats what. I’ll reply directly to your PM if that’s alright?



I do like Whiskey



Odd. Prior to migration, all withdrawals were either cancelled (and placed back in the player account) or processed.
Can you drop me a PM with your registered email address and I’ll see what’s happened for you?





Honesty is the best policy mate, so thank you for that.

A lot of what you have mentioned above is on our list of things we will be looking at addressing with Aspire. We have always worked to improve our platform and our system for our players, and we will continue to do so.

Regarding the terms – these terms exist to protect us from bonus abuse, however, they’re not designed as traps or tricks for the regular player. If we felt a confiscation of winnings was unwarranted, unfair, or sneaky we would over rule it.

No sorting options for slots – we’re currently working on this one.

If you’ve any other points or lists, feel free to drop me a PM mate

Don’t worry @bruinsdude, most of our games will be back within a month as the final bits are all migrated over.

As far as I know the “Server Error” you experienced was new site teething issues, seems to be due to games coming through the iSoftbet platform such as TigerBet Games, so that should be fixed in the next 1 – 2 hours.

And regarding the bonuses, I’m working with the CRM team to build a new relaunch bonus which will be sent out in the coming days, or early next week.

Truly wish you that you will succeed. Who knows, you might turn Aspire into a reputable operator! :)

One question keeps coming back. As you have seen, UK players are treated to a "special" RTP of 91.25% on Book of Dead (I am sure other PnG slots will be the same). For me under the MGA licence, it is at 94.25% as they do no allow anything below 92.50% IIRC.

Question is does the UKGC really allow it?
 
Truly wish you that you will succeed. Who knows, you might turn Aspire into a reputable operator! :)

One question keeps coming back. As you have seen, UK players are treated to a "special" RTP of 91.25% on Book of Dead (I am sure other PnG slots will be the same). For me under the MGA licence, it is at 94.25% as they do no allow anything below 92.50% IIRC.

Question is does the UKGC really allow it?

From what I'm being told the UKGC do allow this for now, yes.
 
Ok thanks for the reply on my points Conor

Time for some positives, despite minimal dealings, I have always held Trada reps as the best of the lot on here, not a bad word to say about any of the team.

Heck I even remember several 'banter chats' on live help with Liam when I first joined Trada many years ago. (Is he still with the team?) and nope I wasn't "freebie hunting" at the time either :p

FWIW, My 'early' posts today were more aimed at previous Aspire knowledge than new Trada knowledge so looking back at them maybe a tad unfair, for which I apolgise.

Wishing the whole team nothing but the very best moving forward :thumbsup:
 
Sometimes things can be salvaged even when things look beyond repair.

My sisters middle-child is a good example.
When that little sonofagun was about 1,5 years old, he did something that i thought at the time, ruined him.
You know those toilet-brushes right? They usually stand in a sort of container/cup thingy.
Well, that lil bastard crawled at the speed of light to play with the toilet-brush, or atleast so my sister and i thought... What his real plan was to quench his thirst with the unholy drops of filth that resided inside the container for the brush.

Kid didnt even retch or make a face, and i swear to this day that i saw a smile form on his little shitwater-drinking face. So naturally i picked him up and was just about to throw him in the trash, since, well since he was beyond repair according to me.
My sister told me NO, ill keep him, i can make this right.
And while he is not the same kid anymore, and i will probably never be able to look him in the eyes, he is still around, and has not had a drink of poo-water since.

So things can be saved, even when it looks like all hope is gone.

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I understand that
I hope tradas hands are free enough to do what they think is best for the brand, even if that could be a change of platform.
 
It is not even the lowest! :eek:

MGA allows the top two only. I am really surprised the UKGC is not doing the same. 3% is quite a difference.

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What I can't understand is if AG have some of their sites sitting on the 94.25% RTP, then surely Trada could have insisted on that being the RTP for them? The 3% is a big difference to players and will reduce their game time and that will surely have a negative effect for any new customers as in they wont want to come back ( I am presuming no regular UK player would even bother to play at 91.25).
 
Sometimes things can be salvaged even when things look beyond repair.

My sisters middle-child is a good example.
When that little sonofagun was about 1,5 years old, he did something that i thought at the time, ruined him.
You know those toilet-brushes right? They usually stand in a sort of container/cup thingy.
Well, that lil bastard crawled at the speed of light to play with the toilet-brush, or atleast so my sister and i thought... What his real plan was to quench his thirst with the unholy drops of filth that resided inside the container for the brush.

Kid didnt even retch or make a face, and i swear to this day that i saw a smile form on his little shitwater-drinking face. So naturally i picked him up and was just about to throw him in the trash, since, well since he was beyond repair according to me.
My sister told me NO, ill keep him, i can make this right.
And while he is not the same kid anymore, and i will probably never be able to look him in the eyes, he is still around, and has not had a drink of poo-water since.

So things can be saved, even when it looks like all hope is gone.

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Ok, what I am trying to wrap my head around is why over 50% of NetEnt and Pragmatic games that were there, are now GONE. I thought this migration was supposed to be all about more games, more choice etc.
Simple NetEnt classics such as Reel Rush, Lost Relics, Pragmatic such as Peking Luck, a lot of my go to games basically have vanished. Why such a limited selection of games now??????
 
What I can't understand is if AG have some of their sites sitting on the 94.25% RTP, then surely Trada could have insisted on that being the RTP for them? The 3% is a big difference to players and will reduce their game time and that will surely have a negative effect for any new customers as in they wont want to come back ( I am presuming no regular UK player would even bother to play at 91.25).

I think it depends on your geo-location. UK is at the lower because the UKGC allows it. The ROW playing on a AG site does so under a MGA licence and they do not allow the 91.25% RTP setting.
 
This First part of this post is simply to acknowledge Trada’s efforts to keep up their amazing service during a situation that was much beyond their control. I admire the way that their senior management found time, amongst the barrage they faced during migration, to come on here, read our comments and take time to respond when they had been up most/all of the night.
If Comor and Rachel want a CM working party over the coming weeks to help to find errors/issues and trouble shoot then I for one would be more than willing to give a little time back to them in recognition of all they have done for us.

On an entirely separate and unrelevant note now seems a good time to grab a tin hat for one of my theories!

It is not even the lowest! :eek:

MGA allows the top two only. I am really surprised the UKGC is not doing the same. 3% is quite a difference.

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I’m gonna say what I have thought for a while now.... (also been logging my own personal data on this)
when we get wager free Spins or low wagering spins from casinos (not specifically Trada), they don’t ever give wins anywhere near their ‘value’. Most notably Quick spin and PNG...
Could it be that configuration 8 7 and 8 4 are the settings for rounds of free spins?
 
This First part of this post is simply to acknowledge Trada’s efforts to keep up their amazing service during a situation that was much beyond their control. I admire the way that their senior management found time, amongst the barrage they faced during migration, to come on here, read our comments and take time to respond when they had been up most/all of the night.
If Comor and Rachel want a CM working party over the coming weeks to help to find errors/issues and trouble shoot then I for one would be more than willing to give a little time back to them in recognition of all they have done for us.

On an entirely separate and unrelevant note now seems a good time to grab a tin hat for one of my theories!



I’m gonna say what I have thought for a while now.... (also been logging my own personal data on this)
when we get wager free Spins or low wagering spins from casinos (not specifically Trada), they don’t ever give wins anywhere near their ‘value’. Most notably Quick spin and PNG...
Could it be that configuration 8 7 and 8 4 are the settings for rounds of free spins?


Oooh, i like this one.
I also feel that freespins&normal play is very different things indeed, no matter what casino im playing them at. Time and time again, those 25spin rewards at vs will pay like 10c, in a not so volatile game, and those things just dont happen when playing the slots normally with real money.
 
This First part of this post is simply to acknowledge Trada’s efforts to keep up their amazing service during a situation that was much beyond their control. I admire the way that their senior management found time, amongst the barrage they faced during migration, to come on here, read our comments and take time to respond when they had been up most/all of the night.
If Comor and Rachel want a CM working party over the coming weeks to help to find errors/issues and trouble shoot then I for one would be more than willing to give a little time back to them in recognition of all they have done for us.

On an entirely separate and unrelevant note now seems a good time to grab a tin hat for one of my theories!

I’m gonna say what I have thought for a while now.... (also been logging my own personal data on this)
when we get wager free Spins or low wagering spins from casinos (not specifically Trada), they don’t ever give wins anywhere near their ‘value’. Most notably Quick spin and PNG...
Could it be that configuration 8 7 and 8 4 are the settings for rounds of free spins?

Fully agree on the efforts of Conor and Rachel. The problem is that Aspire is a giant and Trada only one of many white-label clients they have. How flexible they will be to accommodate the "extra wishes" of Trada will be the defining factor. CL/Next learned that the hard way.

Pretty sure that wouldn't be allowed. According to the regulations, demo/free spins/real play has to be the same.
 
I’m not sure what is all the fuse about here ?
Aspire bought Trada with the promise to keep a few jobs going . Of course it’s not going to be the same , no matter what Conor and Rachel are saying - all you need to do is look at Casinoluck ,Nextcasino and Wildslots.
 
I’m not sure what is all the fuse about here ?
Aspire bought Trada with the promise to keep a few jobs going . Of course it’s not going to be the same , no matter what Conor and Rachel are saying - all you need to do is look at Casinoluck ,Nextcasino and Wildslots.
I...don't think that's correct. Aspire bought Pairplay, the platform Trada used.
 
I’m gonna say what I have thought for a while now.... (also been logging my own personal data on this)
when we get wager free Spins or low wagering spins from casinos (not specifically Trada), they don’t ever give wins anywhere near their ‘value’. Most notably Quick spin and PNG...
Could it be that configuration 8 7 and 8 4 are the settings for rounds of free spins?

Thanks for the support Supa!

Regarding the wager free spins or low wager spins, when I had set these types of spins up, we would select the same game ID as would be on the site. Meaning the RTP of the game you normally play, and the game the spins are on, are the same as the game itself is the same, if that makes sense.

Where you might be noticing the difference is in the total value of the spins.

For example, offering 10 spins at 0.10 instead of 40 spins at 0.10.
 
You got that one right Dionysus.
We were not bought by Aspire. We're still owned independently.
It was out previous platform provider (Pariplay) that was bought.
well, im right once of 10
woot! :P
 
What a shower this thread is. How a site dedicated to fair play can have their highest rated casino offering games at 91% RTP is completely beyond me.

To fellow gamblers be sure - playing slots at 91% is going to hurt really really bad.

Perhaps the fair thing to do would have been to simply offer nothing at all if the platform provider enforces such disgraceful RTP.
 
CasinoLuck etc, did initially manage to get a few things changed, when they joined AG.
Payout times, wagering, game contribution etc
But unfortunately those changes only lasted a matter of weeks.
Then they just became AG clones
 
As a leading affiliate site Casinomeister has a duty of care to its patrons who understand it to be the forerunner in transparency.
However it is abundantly clear Trada casino is no longer the same and should absolutely lose it’s current rating.
Pending cashout times, reduced RTP, 50% slot wagering allocations, these alone should suspend the current rating.
 
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Although I have suffered the most (at least for now) from the change, I agree that there should be given time to Trada to address any issues and to players to try the new site properly.

Besides, every member that has earned the right to rate casinos can go and change their rating, if they are sure there is a need to do so.
 
As a leading affiliate site Casinomeister has a duty of care to its patrons who understand it to be the forerunner in transparency.
However it is abundantly clear Trada casino is no longer the same and should absolutely lose it’s current rating.
Pending cashout times, reduced RTP, 50% slot wagering allocations, these alone should suspend the current rating.

Casinomeister also strives for fairness.
That means to both members and casinos.

Trada received their top rating for far more than offering average/above average rtp. As a Meister Minion, when asked to rate casinos for the player’s score I based it mostly on trustworthiness, reliability, support and withdrawals.i don’t think rtp was ever in my consideration.
They have also got a cabinet of hard earned awards from CM. Surely all of that effort should mean that we allow them the grace and a little time to try to fix the things that are concerns for both them and us.
In previous years, I loved the fact that a handful of people on an island that I can see from the seaside on a clear day were able to play amongst the casino giants and were holding their own.
It’s just shit luck that, the platform used to built this empire was sold.
If this team have proven that they have the determination and knowledge to create something great then we should support all efforts to rise again.

We are all more than aware of the situation and current flaws. If you don’t like it then don’t play there for now.
My only concern is a brand new member using the ranking system to decide to join Trada as it stands. It might make them question the integrity of the rankings. But a simple note at the start of the review page explaining the situation would be enough for me.
As Conor and Rachel have always been there for us, it’s not too much to expect the community to have their backs in a time of need rather than kicking them when they are down.
 
Casinomeister also strives for fairness.
That means to both members and casinos.

Trada received their top rating for far more than offering average/above average rtp. As a Meister Minion, when asked to rate casinos for the player’s score I based it mostly on trustworthiness, reliability, support and withdrawals.i don’t think rtp was ever in my consideration.
They have also got a cabinet of hard earned awards from CM. Surely all of that effort should mean that we allow them the grace and a little time to try to fix the things that are concerns for both them and us.
In previous years, I loved the fact that a handful of people on an island that I can see from the seaside on a clear day were able to play amongst the casino giants and were holding their own.
It’s just shit luck that, the platform used to built this empire was sold.
If this team have proven that they have the determination and knowledge to create something great then we should support all efforts to rise again.

We are all more than aware of the situation and current flaws. If you don’t like it then don’t play there for now.
My only concern is a brand new member using the ranking system to decide to join Trada as it stands. It might make them question the integrity of the rankings. But a simple note at the start of the review page explaining the situation would be enough for me.
As Conor and Rachel have always been there for us, it’s not too much to expect the community to have their backs in a time of need rather than kicking them when they are down.
I'd say, what people are most concerned about, are those players who don't even use the forums. But do use the reviews and accreditation list to find new casinos to play at.

Someone loading up CM for the First time, looking for a recommendation, Seeing Trada as the top rated site, reading the review. Then joining up.
Only to find that the review and/or the rating isn't accurate.

It doesn't do CM's reputation much good.
 
My only concern is a brand new member using the ranking system to decide to join Trada as it stands. It might make them question the integrity of the rankings.

Someone loading up CM for the First time, looking for a recommendation, Seeing Trada as the top rated site, reading the review. Then joining up.
Only to find that the review and/or the rating isn't accurate.

It doesn't do CM's reputation much good.

Agree with both these points. Its not just Trada that are questionable. I have reconsidered my take on the rankings since the Trada issues. Just being honest. I have also said before Conor is a great rep and does a sterling job for what its worth,

Its a shame because CM, for me, IS the light in the darkness - but the rankings im not so sure of.

I am massively in debt to the community for helping me find decent casinos and slot tranquillity.

Its because of this debt that I wanted to validate these points. I didnt want to question the integrity of the ratings in open forum because it feels like i am betraying all that has been given but its because I care that I must agree.

Your only a star when you shine.
 
I'd say, what people are most concerned about, are those players who don't even use the forums. But do use the reviews and accreditation list to find new casinos to play at.

Someone loading up CM for the First time, looking for a recommendation, Seeing Trada as the top rated site, reading the review. Then joining up.
Only to find that the review and/or the rating isn't accurate.

It doesn't do CM's reputation much good.
Kinda what the penultimate paragraph says but obviously not worded clearly...
 
Trada is no longer Trada. Full stop. They have decided to cut over 50% of NetEnt and Pragmatic titles alone from their repertoire, CS is not very good any longer, you cannot even sort the games to really see what all is missing. May as well just put Casino Rewards up there with a 9.8, at least they have a full repertoire of games, right? Hats off to Connor, but one person with good intentions doesn't make any of this alright. They went from being the best, to just another casino. The rating should most definitely be revisited so people are not fooled into thinking Trada is now what they once were. Same goes for a lot of casinos IMO, not just picking on Trada here. I was 100% loyal to them and feel simply blindsided here. Connor promised more providers, more choices etc....he did not mention they would be shaving a huge chunk of existing titles in the process.
 
I'd wager Conor's not overly chuffed at events, nor has any sway as to who Trada merges with, effectively making him a bystander and tea boy, to all intents and purposes. But what a tea boy :eek::p

Obviously transitions take time so I'd wait a good couple of months before we all lose our collective rag. In the meantime, the simplest of notes could be left by CM's Trada review, stating 'In process of changing platform' and maybe have NO score under their rating until it's all finalized :cool:
 
I can't be arsed to read the full thread so is their any chance of a brief synopsis on where we are at before I decide to deposit at Trada again please?
TYIA :)

Trada handed the keys over to a new games provider, and the actual games list is much much shorter than before. Depending on where you live the RTP is lowered. (though my BOD RTP sits at 94.25%, others have seen it as low as 91%) Wagering contributions are only 50% for 99% of games, unless you play the Aspire Fruity Friends etc. CS is no longer run by Trada. Play n Go and Red Tiger are there, but at what cost? A huge chunk of my go to games have vanished. :(
 

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