Trada moving to Aspire Global platform from 20th November

[colinsunderland]

That is in no way a good move.
Aspire use RTP settings on Play N Go as low as the 91% minimum

 

[Kroffe]

That is in no way a good move.
Aspire use RTP settings on Play N Go as low as the 91% minimum

Oh, i was not aware there were more versions than the 96&94% ones.
Dang, down to 91% is a pretty big drop.

 

[ternur]

Why? Just why?

 

[colinsunderland]

Oh, i was not aware there were more versions than the 96&94% ones.
Dang, down to 91% is a pretty big drop.

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[Slottery]

Is that low RTP allowed by regulators in Europe? Have some memory trace that at least MGA would demand bit higher. Not biggest fan of Aspire, not last due to their T&C:s but assume Trada not jumping to all these most horrible bonus terms etc, i hope platform is flexible enough to let you have your own tweaks not to come to part of group many are avoiding just because Aspire and their terms...

Platform itself is quite good, guess they do it for reason, just name Aspire don't fancy at all when hearing it but as @Conor@Trada says, let's see what's happening and hope Trada not going to be just one more Aspire "brand" to avoid.

 

[Conor@Trada]

Hey all

So the news is out
This is going to be an awesome development for us, and our players.
Not only will we have a whole rake of new providers and games, but we will also be able to offer more varied and exciting promotions.

Of course, we expected this kind of hesitancy, change is always scary.
I've already forwarded on a request to get a full list of our games that we will be offering, along with their expected RTPs
Once I have them, I'll be able to answer the RTP questions more thoroughly.

If anyone has any other questions regarding our migration to the Aspire Platform, please let me know and I'll get all of the information I can for you all.

Conor

 

[dave1888]

Hey all

So the news is out
This is going to be an awesome development for us, and our players.
Not only will we have a whole rake of new providers and games, but we will also be able to offer more varied and exciting promotions.

Of course, we expected this kind of hesitancy, change is always scary.
I've already forwarded on a request to get a full list of our games that we will be offering, along with their expected RTPs
Once I have them, I'll be able to answer the RTP questions more thoroughly.

If anyone has any other questions regarding our migration to the Aspire Platform, please let me know and I'll get all of the information I can for you all.

Conor

Please get them to knock off these dubious terms they have such as crappy 5x max win from the bonuses! For example free fiver in the post then max cashout 25 quid yet wager is something like 35-40x this type of stuff stinks to high heaven.

 

[colinsunderland]

Hey all

So the news is out
This is going to be an awesome development for us, and our players.
Not only will we have a whole rake of new providers and games, but we will also be able to offer more varied and exciting promotions.

Of course, we expected this kind of hesitancy, change is always scary.
I've already forwarded on a request to get a full list of our games that we will be offering, along with their expected RTPs
Once I have them, I'll be able to answer the RTP questions more thoroughly.

If anyone has any other questions regarding our migration to the Aspire Platform, please let me know and I'll get all of the information I can for you all.

Conor

Will you be illegally charging a fee for card deposits like other aspire brands do? Or will it stay free as it should?
Please tell me you are using in house live chat and not the abomination that Aspire use. I wanted to check they still charge and it took me 45 minutes for casinoluck to confirm they still charge for card deposits.

 

[thr0b]

Hey all

So the news is out
This is going to be an awesome development for us, and our players.
Not only will we have a whole rake of new providers and games, but we will also be able to offer more varied and exciting promotions.

Of course, we expected this kind of hesitancy, change is always scary.
I've already forwarded on a request to get a full list of our games that we will be offering, along with their expected RTPs
Once I have them, I'll be able to answer the RTP questions more thoroughly.

If anyone has any other questions regarding our migration to the Aspire Platform, please let me know and I'll get all of the information I can for you all.

Conor

Will you be keeping up the Thursday treats with no wagering? They’ve been quite profitable for me

 

[colinsunderland]

The conversation below took 45 minutes, and look at the lies, starts off with they charge fees, then my bank will charge the fee, then the processing company charges the fee, refused to say how much too, and it's illegal.

N/A: Do you charge a fee for card deposits please

Liliya: Yes, it says on our website that there is a fee

Liliya: What payment method would you like to use?

N/A: i couldn't find it, would be visa debit from the UK

Liliya: Please give me some minutes to check it

N/A: thank you

Liliya: I'm checking it

N/A: thanks

Liliya: So, when you will be depositing there will be a fee from your bank. You will see how much it is before making a deposit

N/A: my bank don't charge fees for a card payment, do you have a link to your page with the fees listed please?

Liliya: I'm afraid I cannot provide you with that list as fees are charged by the processing company.

N/A: so you don't charge fees?

Liliya: We do not. It is processing company who does.

N/A: ok, so how do your customers find out? I'm not going to join then deposit and find out you have taken extra money from me without telling me

N/A: I know you used to charge 2.5% which is why I'm asking

Liliya: When you will make a deposit you will be able to see the fee that will be charged.

 

[TheAddict]

45 minutes! lol

 

[Jono777]

Won't really affect me personally as I am currently BB'ed at Trada, however a query for the other members here.....

AG currently list their bonus turnover as 50xB but then players later discover that virtually all slots (apart from their in house ****) only contribute 50% so its actually 100xB!

Last time I looked they had also removed some of the more popular titles which carried a risk of big hits, examples which spring to mind are Raging Rhino and Immortal Romance.

Appreciate Trada will have discussed this at length but another heads up, when some of the more popular Everymatrix casinos made this move (casino Luck, Next Casino, Wild Slots) they lost a lot of their existing player base.

Although I do not play there, I consider Trada one of the all time greats and a casino which can be trusted above most others, I am super wary but I also wish you the best of luck with the upcoming move!

 

[brianmon]

HUGE MISTAKE

You only need to look at how Casino Luck, Next Casino and Wild Slots went from being some of the best casinos online, to mediocre (and that's being generous) and hardly ever even mentioned here at CM now.

Crappy bonus terms, where 95% of their slots only count 50% for wagering. (effectively doubling the advertised wagering)
Low bonus conversion amount
2.5% deposit fees
Lowest RTP% setting on any slots that can be adjusted.

That's just off the top of my head. There's probably many more things against AG

 

[thr0b]

On the flip side - this is good news for the L& L Europe casinos

 

[Nicola]

Biggest mistake ever, sorry Trada.

My comments as brianmon said above with Next Casino. We all warned the rep here about what was going to happen and it really did. Rep got pissed, stopped posting and Next fell to the bottom of the heap.

So many things wrong with AG Group. The misleading bonus terms, slow withdrawals, and low RTPs.

Conor, don't make promises you won't be able to keep like 'fast withdrawals' - these shady terms are applied at levels way above your pay grade.

 

[Jono777]

Can't stop thinking about this, to summarise what I said earlier and others have since backed up, if there is anyway you can back track then do it, please!

 

[steveh35]

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[paul7388]

Taking a guess that anyone self excluded from an Aspire Global site will now be excluded from Trada. Which from everything i have read about Aspire will probably be a lot of players.

Anyway wish you all the best Conor and hope it all works out well for you.

 

[SpinUk]

This ones a real shame. Only really deposit with Trada and a few others now. So - a few others now it is.

 

[dunover]

Biggest mistake ever, sorry Trada.

My comments as brianmon said above with Next Casino. We all warned the rep here about what was going to happen and it really did. Rep got pissed, stopped posting and Next fell to the bottom of the heap.

So many things wrong with AG Group. The misleading bonus terms, slow withdrawals, and low RTPs.

Conor, don't make promises you won't be able to keep like 'fast withdrawals' - these shady terms are applied at levels way above your pay grade.

Sharing another platform doesn't necessarily remove autonomy over payment systems and Trada's bespoke terms.
That may be the case in a takeover, but not moving platforms as the two don't have to be mutually exclusive.

The factor in play here will be efficiency savings due to the high cost of UK operations and the chance to offer a more comprehensive range of games with shared costs, rather than stagnating into an eventual closure or at least revoking their UK license.

Times are tough for smaller independent sites. For example Midaur have 2 new properties and aren't even bothering to take UK players for them as they cannot make money here. So pooling resources for survival is a cogent and logical course of action.

 

[colinsunderland]

Well this is going well for Trada lol

Seriously though, I can't get my head round why a casino with such a high reputation as Trada would move to a platform like Aspire. They and Jumpman are the two casinos groups I avoid like the plague (well GIG too but not because of the platform). Surely the people in charge are aware of what happened to other casinos that have moved to Aspire, I can see Trada being the 'fall from grace' winner next year. I genuinely hope I'm wrong as I think Rachel and Connor are 2 of the best reps on here, but I just can't see this ending well, on here at least.

 

[colinsunderland]

Sharing another platform doesn't necessarily remove autonomy over payment systems and Trada's bespoke terms.
That may be the case in a takeover, but not moving platforms as the two don't have to be mutually exclusive.

The factor in play here will be efficiency savings due to the high cost of UK operations and the chance to offer a more comprehensive range of games with shared costs, rather than stagnating into an eventual closure or at least revoking their UK license.

Times are tough for smaller independent sites. For example Midaur have 2 new properties and aren't even bothering to take UK players for them as they cannot make money here. So pooling resources for survival is a cogent and logical course of action.

You mean like casinoluck kept their bonus terms when they moved as they promised?
I'll put money on them migrating to aspires standards within 6 months, even if they start off differently

 

[dunover]

Well this is going well for Trada lol

Seriously though, I can't get my head round why a casino with such a high reputation as Trada would move to a platform like Aspire. They and Jumpman are the two casinos groups are about the only two I avoid like the plague (well GIG too but not because of the platform). Surely the people in charge are aware of what happened to other casinos that have moved to Aspire, I can see Trada being the 'fall from grace' winner next year. I genuinely hope I'm wrong as I think Rachel and Connor are 2 of the best reps on here, but I just can't see this ending well, on here at least.

Well it's easier to predict doom than success, but myself, I hope it works for them and the integrity of their product is maintained. Give it a chance!

 

[colinsunderland]

Well it's easier to predict doom than success, but myself, I hope it works for them and the integrity of their product is maintained. Give it a chance!

So same as me? I clearly said I hope I'm wrong.

 

[SpinUk]

Well it's easier to predict doom than success, but myself, I hope it works for them and the integrity of their product is maintained. Give it a chance!

If there was a single precedent of that i’d be with you on it. But we dont ‍