ThisisVegas, Paradise8, Cocoa Casino - out of the pit

you know what, don't bother replying. I'm not going to respond. I just realized that this thread is probably drawing traffic to your site. I'm sorry everyone, i'm not going to fuel the fire and this will be my last post here. I am in communications with Shaun, the new owner of the casinos I'll post on "other forums" the outcome. You could probably do a google search once an outcome is reached and I'll be more than happy to grant access to email correspondence that I have had with Shaun.

As I requested CM, please delete my account and destroy all personal information of mine that you may have in your possession.

thanks.

I love how the fraudsters deflect attention away from the real issues by ranting like a ten year old. :D

It's also part of their MO to deliberately insult their hosts and request their account be closed, so they can trumpet on other forums about how they were "silenced" because their host is "in bed" with the casinos. :rolleyes:

Funny thing is that they all claim to be individually smarter than everyone else, when in fact they are just plain old fraudsters just like all the others. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the smart ones are the ones who don't get caught.

Looking forward to you actually answering Bryans questions. How about it, Bob?
 
1000AUD credit card deposit, a copy of the statement which I sent to Shaun. Even signed an authorization form for that 1000AUD with TIV Would you like to see both docs ? well that was a silly question, why would you ?.
I've seen the docs. They don't prove anything. Even Shaun mentioned in email to you that they don't prove anything. The amounts shown as a deposit/transfer do not match any deposits in ANY Rival account during those dates. You're BSing people with this.

Back when TiV was originally rogued, the moderators and I had gone through what we had from TiV for a few weeks. It was a really tough call since GID88 seemed to be possibly okay. We gave the guy the benefit of the doubt. With what we had, it looked as though TiV was acting upon what had happened at another casino - Slotocash. This is where Gid88 had made chargebacks from a Credit Card that was "hacked".

What we didn't know was that when Gid88 signed up at TiV, he deposited using click2pay - not a credit card. This has been confirmed by the casino and Click2Pay. In fact, GiD88 has denied categorically that he has a Click2Pay account, and when asked why is there a C2P account in his name that made deposits into his account, he only comes back with counter accusations like in this thread. And claims that he made some CC deposit from his bank. It doesn't fly.

So either both C2P and Rival are lying about this, or the player is scamming everyone.

Here is why the C2P issue is important:

GID88 said he would be satisfied over the whole thing if he could get his deposits back:

From an email from Gid88:
In the spirit of settling this completely, I'm willing to accept an
amount of USD8K-9K.(10 percent of what I believe I am entitled to)
taking into account the AUD v USD rate now as to what it was back then
as well.

Shaun assumed the deposits had not been returned and he wanted to return these to GiD88, but it turned out that these deposits had been already returned to the C2P account that is in the player's name - when told about this - Gid replied:

...I only ever deposited at
TIV with my credit card. If possible, are we able to have a chat over
the phone. You can give me your number and I will call you or you can
contact me on ******.

He has been going on for a couple of months - never answering the question "do you have a C2P account?" His only concern was why C2P released this information to the casino. Which in fact was normal procedure - no privacy rules were broken.

So by GiD88's own admission, the deposits made in the TiV account which resulted in the $80K win weren't made by him at all. They were made by someone else with the same name, who strangely hacked Gid88's TiV account - deposited and won. So technically, this guy isn't owed anything. It's the player's responsibility to ensure that no one access his account - especially people who share his name :rolleyes:

What in the world are you talking about, you've derailed the complete amicable communications that Shaun and I have been having, including those C2P payments which Shaun sent to me and which I am currently trying to reconcile AND in communications with C2P. Again, you've made an ass of yourself by stating that someone on your forums is a liar without first understanding the facts.
I have all the emails. You're being told that you are a fraudster - and that you aren't to be believed. Don't try to turn this around to make it look like it's something it isn't.

Admit it CM, you've screwed yourself over by rogueing a casino that has come back and offered you cash for advertising. Poor form, really poor form.
<yawn> yeah, whatever dude.

Let me put this question to you, all things considered and assuming Shaun has sent you the information he has sent me, do you think TIV were still rogue in their actions by not paying me out ?
They were in the rogue pit as a result of what we had back then. It's a shame that you didn't keep hammering people for answers, we would have figured out that you were lying months ago. You're the douchebag, not me.

you know what, don't bother replying. I'm not going to respond. I just realized that this thread is probably drawing traffic to your site. I'm sorry everyone, i'm not going to fuel the fire and this will be my last post here. I am in communications with Shaun, the new owner of the casinos I'll post on "other forums" the outcome. You could probably do a google search once an outcome is reached and I'll be more than happy to grant access to email correspondence that I have had with Shaun.

As I requested CM, please delete my account and destroy all personal information of mine that you may have in your possession.
<double yawn> I'll save you the trip. Boot in the ass - out the door.
 
As far as I'm concerned - TiV is out of the pit.

Thanks Shaun for doing the digging you did. Tell your boss you deserve a raise.
 
In the spirit of settling this completely, I'm willing to accept an amount of USD8K-9K.(10 percent of what I believe I am entitled to)

I don't know about the rest of you, but if I honestly believed a casino owed me 80K+ there's no way in HELL I'd settle for that much less. Just sayin.
 
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Sorry if I have not gotten the whole picture here but from what I gathered here the reason it also took along time to resolve is you had both GID88 and another person (the hacker) who had the same name?

GID88's credit card was hacked by the person with the same name and not only this they also made a deposit into CLICK2PAY for the amount of $1000 and this is where ALL of the troubles started.

Did GIDD88 find out that someone used his account at TIV with a fraudulent deposit and they are the ones who actually won on $80k and GIDD8* is trying to say this IS him and he wants the money?

Sorry I just can't make heads or tails of this- if someone could explain this a little better for me that would be appreciated.

Regards,

Same_old
 
I don't know about the rest of you, but if I honestly believed a casino owed me 80K+ there's no way in HELL I'd settle for that much less. Just sayin.


Yeah I agree with you there but the other side of that coin is he hasn't let up about this since it all started. Most would have let it go by now but GID88 is still going strong with what he believes.

This case really seems to be a weird one I can tell you and still do not think we have heard the last of it.
 
Sorry if I have not gotten the whole picture here but from what I gathered here the reason it also took along time to resolve is you had both GID88 and another person (the hacker) who had the same name?

GID88's credit card was hacked by the person with the same name and not only this they also made a deposit into CLICK2PAY for the amount of $1000 and this is where ALL of the troubles started.

Did GIDD88 find out that someone used his account at TIV with a fraudulent deposit and they are the ones who actually won on $80k and GIDD8* is trying to say this IS him and he wants the money?

Sorry I just can't make heads or tails of this- if someone could explain this a little better for me that would be appreciated.

Regards,

Same_old

I know, I'm still trying to figure out who Bob Wild is. :confused:

There's something I'm not getting either - if I make a deposit via moneybookers and I go to cash out and they put the money into the same account that the original deposit came out of and I say I've never used moneybookers, that doesn't make me a fraudster, just forgetful. Unless of course I funded the moneybookers account with a credit card with someone else's name on it. Or if I funded the account with a credit card that was allegedly hacked and used for a chargeback at another casino....?
 
Yeah I agree with you there but the other side of that coin is he hasn't let up about this since it all started. Most would have let it go by now but GID88 is still going strong with what he believes.

This case really seems to be a weird one I can tell you and still do not think we have heard the last of it.

The OP always insisted they used credit card to deposit. It has been revealed that it was actually click2pay. I think that's alarm bells right there.

Gid88 shares a computer with bob wild, or could well be bob wild and is using multiple IDs. Another red flag.

Gid88 also had his deposits refunded already, BUT was trying to negotiate with the new TIV to get those deposits back, knowing full well he already has I.e. was trying to scam another $10k by lying.

Bryan has alluded to other information he has seen but cannot be disclosed, but im satisfied he is dodgy even without that.

Normal everyday players don't have these kind of problems....they just don't.
 
The OP always insisted they used credit card to deposit. It has been revealed that it was actually click2pay. I think that's alarm bells right there.

Gid88 shares a computer with bob wild, or could well be bob wild and is using multiple IDs. Another red flag.

Gid88 also had his deposits refunded already, BUT was trying to negotiate with the new TIV to get those deposits back, knowing full well he already has I.e. was trying to scam another $10k by lying.

Bryan has alluded to other information he has seen but cannot be disclosed, but im satisfied he is dodgy even without that.

Normal everyday players don't have these kind of problems....they just don't.

[Normal everyday players don't have these kind of problems....they just don't]


nifty im not assailing you; but there was a time that i had a go with a accredited casino here
and was childed as being a well / cant believe its what the op said =me
so i unloaded my docs here on the forum for the world to see and after a testy thread the decision was made in my favor as it should have

so that was a one of a kind i believe = innocent till proven guilty

ps i thought that i was stained by the remark's the linguest skilled openent posters leveled at me [but a angel redeemed me ]

respectfuly R C
 
... the other side of that coin is he hasn't let up about this since it all started. ... GID88 is still going strong with what he believes.

The tenacity of fraudsters is part-and-parcel of being a fraudster, IME¹. Typically they'll keep banging away at it until something either cracks (in their favour) or there is absolutely, positively no chance of success (meaning they got caught). It's a natural tendency for most of us to side with the determined underdog and that's exactly what the fraudsters who come here and post their BS "I've been misunderstood, give me money" stories are counting on.

Bottom line: vigorous declarations that 2 + 2 = 11 does not make it so, unless you get tired of hearing it and concede them the point, in which case they'll then and forever hold you to it, not to mention telling all their fraudster buddies that you're an easy mark.

¹IME = "In My Experience"
 
[Normal everyday players don't have these kind of problems....they just don't]


nifty im not assailing you; but there was a time that i had a go with a accredited casino here
and was childed as being a well / cant believe its what the op said =me
so i unloaded my docs here on the forum for the world to see and after a testy thread the decision was made in my favor as it should have

so that was a one of a kind i believe = innocent till proven guilty

ps i thought that i was stained by the remark's the linguest skilled openent posters leveled at me [but a angel redeemed me ]

respectfuly R C

Oh absolutely. I'm not saying it never ever happens that innocent players get caught in the net, but it is extremely rare and I would say that the vast majority of honest legit players would play for decades without ever having their bona fides questioned.
 
That is the worst forum I have ever read. Very bad! That gid deserved to be punished for a decent fraud. Gid stole money from someone else account using their card instead of his own card. Casino already know and got all evidence piled up against Gid. I hope he has gone to jail! Commit a fraud is go to jail on the spot! I am glad the casino recovered well and fixed all the problems they have had and caught up with some redhand people to kick them out of casino. And good on Casinomeister for doing something to get the fraudster out of sight. I hope these casino will keep up with good work and stay out of rogue pit you do not need to deserve to go into rogue pit if someone made a PAB is full of lies and fraud. It is not nice when it happens. I will never forget this worst forum I have ever read. I respect those good people with good faith, telling truth whole time and listen and talk to each other without problems. Take care people. /End of my rant. :)
 
That is the worst forum I have ever read. Very bad! That gid deserved to be punished for a decent fraud. Gid stole money from someone else account using their card instead of his own card. Casino already know and got all evidence piled up against Gid. I hope he has gone to jail! Commit a fraud is go to jail on the spot! I am glad the casino recovered well and fixed all the problems they have had and caught up with some redhand people to kick them out of casino. And good on Casinomeister for doing something to get the fraudster out of sight. I hope these casino will keep up with good work and stay out of rogue pit you do not need to deserve to go into rogue pit if someone made a PAB is full of lies and fraud. It is not nice when it happens. I will never forget this worst forum I have ever read. I respect those good people with good faith, telling truth whole time and listen and talk to each other without problems. Take care people. /End of my rant. :)

Now what has all this to do with your claim that this is the worst forum!
 
Thanks though I expected my aussie friends to be better versed with the english language.

It's like I before I realized where you lived, couldn't understand why you were so good in english. Now I know:D

Probably someone new to Internet or to the language. I remember when I was new to gambling I sent a message to a casino asking what the word currency ment:oops:
 
It's like I before I realized where you lived, couldn't understand why you were so good in english. Now I know:D

Probably someone new to Internet or to the language. I remember when I was new to gambling I sent a message to a casino asking what the word currency ment:oops:

You will probably be more surpriused if you knew I was never educated overseas and in fact I never even went to the US, UK or Europe. I have only visited Japan, Malaysia and Singapore during my lifetime. I went to Macau a zillion times for obvious reasons.:D
 
Thanks though I expected my aussie friends to be better versed with the english language.
Just because he is in Australia now, that doesn't mean he's a native Australian or that English is his first language.

KK
 

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