ATTN: Casino Rep ThisisVegas, Paradise8, Cocoa Casino - out of the pit

Casinomeister

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After being contacted by the rep for Jetset Affiliates - we are putting ThisisVegas, Paradise8, and Cocoa Casino on probation. He has indicated to us that mistakes were made in the past, and that most if not all unresolved issues have been taken care of.

"Probation" means that for the next 90 days, if all goes well (no major complaints, unsolved issues, roguelike activity) they are out of the pit (depitified). Please use this thread to interject any suggestions, comments, complaints etc. Please remember this is a "Rep Friendly" thread. Any bashing or flaming the casino rep will result in placement into the "box of shame". Please be cool.
 

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lol I added Warning: This Casino is on the 'Not Recommended Casinos List' at Casinomeister.com in red just a few hours ago... alright thanks for the update Meister, it hurt my eyes anyways..

but what to do with This is Vegas then, still have them unpublished
 

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Serious ?? TIV is on probation ????

After being contacted by the rep for Jetset Affiliates - we are putting ThisisVegas, Paradise8, and Cocoa Casino on probation. He has indicated to us that mistakes were made in the past, and that most if not all unresolved issues have been taken care of.

"Probation" means that for the next 90 days, if all goes well (no major complaints, unsolved issues, roguelike activity) they are out of the pit (depitified). Please use this thread to interject any suggestions, comments, complaints etc. Please remember this is a "Rep Friendly" thread. Any bashing or flaming the casino rep will result in placement into the "box of shame". Please be cool.

Are you kidding, This IS Vegas is on probation....what about the 80 thou issue ? how was that resolved ? and what have they done to ensure it won't happen again..CM..youre kidding right ?\

Read the reason as to why you came to the conclusion to "rogue" them and tell me how this was resolved.
 

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Are you kidding, This IS Vegas is on probation....what about the 80 thou issue ? how was that resolved ? and what have they done to ensure it won't happen again..CM..youre kidding right ?\

Read the reason as to why you came to the conclusion to "rogue" them and tell me how this was resolved.

I was about to ask the same question... :confused:
 

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Are you kidding, This IS Vegas is on probation....what about the 80 thou issue ? how was that resolved ? and what have they done to ensure it won't happen again..CM..youre kidding right ?\

Read the reason as to why you came to the conclusion to "rogue" them and tell me how this was resolved.

Didn't you imply that you were squared away in this thread?
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/online-casinos/44810-888-casino-3dice-thoughts-2.html#post434400

TiV was purchased by this casino group; it's mostly not the same people, but we can relook into this if you'd like. They have access to all of your records I'm sure.

But I thought you were taken care of.
 

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Didn't you imply that you were squared away in this thread?
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/online-casinos/44810-888-casino-3dice-thoughts-2.html#post434400

TiV was purchased by this casino group; it's mostly not the same people, but we can relook into this if you'd like. They have access to all of your records I'm sure.

But I thought you were taken care of.

NO, i only said an amount (not 80K) hit my account from which I assumed was from TIV, never said I was squared away. Have they (TIV) admitted that they deposited money into my account. I certainly did not receive 80K from them.

Just wondering if you queried this (the 80k outstanding payment) with when discussing their return to the "possibility of being accredited again" list ? and if so, what was their response ?

Would definitely like you to look into this for me. Thank you.
 

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NO, i only said an amount (not 80K) hit my account from which I assumed was from TIV, never said I was squared away. Have they (TIV) admitted that they deposited money into my account. I certainly did not receive 80K from them.

Just wondering if you queried this (the 80k outstanding payment) with when discussing their return to the "possibility of being accredited again" list ? and if so, what was their response ?

Would definitely like you to look into this for me. Thank you.

If it was deposited into your bank account with the same reference as TIV in the past, and there were no other outstanding payments of this amount that you were expecting, it is reasonable to conclude that you had received this payment from TIV. If the new owners have the records, they can confirm or deny whether this was part of the owed money. It would then be a matter of how much is still outstanding that you feel needs to be paid before you consider the issue resolved.
 

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If it was deposited into your bank account with the same reference as TIV in the past, and there were no other outstanding payments of this amount that you were expecting, it is reasonable to conclude that you had received this payment from TIV. If the new owners have the records, they can confirm or deny whether this was part of the owed money. It would then be a matter of how much is still outstanding that you feel needs to be paid before you consider the issue resolved.

I can't confirm, I only assumed it was TIV as I never received a deposit back into my account as i only played once there, so there's no reference. If TIV can confirm that it was they that transferred the money, then I would be happy with the remainder to be returned (USD25K) for this issue to be resolved.
 

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Are TIV still operated by Silverstone and owned by Bonne Chance ?
 

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Are TIV still operated by Silverstone and owned by Bonne Chance ?

looks like it. From their site:

INTRODUCTION

thisisvegas is an online casino owned and operated by Silverstone Overseas Limited, 30 Elm Park Terrace, Shotley Bridge, Consett, County Durham, DH8 0NA (hereafter "Silverstone") a company wholly owned by Bonne Chance NV (hereafter "BC"). Bonne Chance NV is a company incorporated, licensed and regulated by the Government of Curacao for the purpose of operating an online casino.
 

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Thanks, was just wondering since CM mentioned something about them beeing purchased by another group or whatever :)
 

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looks like it. From their site:

INTRODUCTION

thisisvegas is an online casino owned and operated by Silverstone Overseas Limited, 30 Elm Park Terrace, Shotley Bridge, Consett, County Durham, DH8 0NA (hereafter "Silverstone") a company wholly owned by Bonne Chance NV (hereafter "BC"). Bonne Chance NV is a company incorporated, licensed and regulated by the Government of Curacao for the purpose of operating an online casino.

Could someone please post a link to the thread with the 80k issue? I can't find it and wanted to be fully informed on this discussion. :D


Cheers
Gremmy
 

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gid88

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Please re-read Bryan's post: he's talking about them getting out of the Rogue Pit. That's a long LONG way from the Accredited Casino list. BIG difference!

I believe Bryan's post read: ""Probation" means that for the next 90 days, if all goes well (no major complaints, unsolved issues, roguelike activity) they are out of the pit (depitified)"

given this (80K) issue is unsolved, doesn't that automatically "undepitify" them ? or do they have 90 days to solve ?
 

maxd

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I believe Bryan's post read ....

Yes, that is what it read. And how does that translate to "onto the Accred list"? Simple, it does not. So don't say it does, and don't act as if you didn't say it because you most certainly did. All due sympathies re: your 80k but don't be a troll here as you escalate your attempts to get it.

As to the affect your 80k issue has on the proposed "depitification" you'll have to wait (respectfully if you please) for Bryan's reply.

In the meantime I see Bryan has sent me some contact info for their new rep. Next week I'll follow up on this with them to see where they're at re: your issue.
 

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Yes, that is what it read. And how does that translate to "onto the Accred list"? Simple, it does not. So don't say it does, and don't act as if you didn't say it because you most certainly did. All due sympathies re: your 80k but don't be a troll here as you escalate your attempts to get it.

As to the affect your 80k issue has on the proposed "depitification" you'll have to wait (respectfully if you please) for Bryan's reply.

In the meantime I see Bryan has sent me some contact info for their new rep. Next week I'll follow up on this with them to see where they're at re: your issue.

Hey Max, no offense intended, apologies if it came across that way. Not denying that i didn't say it. I'll be as respectful as I can in attempting to recover what is owed to me by TIV. If you were owed 80K (which Max has confirmed TIV should have paid me in his "rougeing" them in the first place), would you escalate as much as possible to get that ? give me a break.

I don't understand what you mean by troll. If the forum isn't meant to be a place for "discussion" and an ability to respond to people's posts then what is it ? My initial post expressed an opinion and follow up posts were comments or replies to others posts. Notihng i have posted on this thread has been inflammatory or off topic. There was sufficient emotion from other members when I originally posted on the topic of TIV owing me 80K.
 

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NO, i only said an amount (not 80K) hit my account from which I assumed was from TIV, never said I was squared away. Have they (TIV) admitted that they deposited money into my account. I certainly did not receive 80K from them...
Well, you were acting awfully coy about this, and I think I even posted somewhere where I asked you to fill us in with the details on this payment since we were directly involved with this issue. You never got back to me on that.

The casino rep can look into this further, and we can reopen this issue. I'm not going to promise you anything, but I'd be glad to have a relook at exactly what happened and why you didn't get paid.

Bear in mind - the casino is convinced you had committed player fraud (multiple accounts, etc.) I'm sure the casino rep can explain more here since it seems you want to make this a public issue. Not a prob with me.

And like Max said, this has nothing to do about any accreditation on our part, it has to do with being fair to a company that wants to come clean.
 

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Hi this is Shaun,

I represent Jet Set Marketing. We have handled Paradise 8 and Cocoa casino for years and (somewhat) recently acquired TIV. Please contact me personally with any questions at all regarding this issue and I'll address each and every email.

If there is anything I cannot answer personally I'll contact the previous owners of the domain and try to get the full details and information for you.

shaun@jetsetaffiliates.com

Thanks!

Shaun
 
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