Spin Palace money sucking?

[AudiManinBoro]

Anyone else becoming a tad dissilusioned with Spin palace? almost 3 weeks and every deposit ive made, (almost every day) gone within the hour. NOT a way to guarantee my future custom in my opinion. Pity really as ive been a member with them 2 years almost and their bonus offers are the best bar none. Is this just me or has anyone else noticed Spin palace is just lately sucking money and i mean sucking. This used to be my favourite casino but im going to change to another one, not going to be treated this way.

 

[AudiManinBoro]

Sorry for the additional post but i just noticed that Spin palace is now owned by a consortium calling themselves the `fairground gaming group` ?? it used to be the Palace group. Who is this group?? change of management? I begin to see now why Spin Palace is rapidly going downhill.

 

[jetset]

Palace group was taken over by Fairground (a consolidator) some time ago, but subsequently Fairground delisted and sold the Palace group back to its original owners.

If you search the Casinomeister News archives you'll find all the detail.

 

[Palace Group]

chat to me

Hi,

Drop me a PM with your account number, I want to have a look at your account.
We were with FGH for a while however the running of The Palace Group was still with the same team.
We obviously prefer leaving players with good experiences so let me see what I can do you you.

Kind regards,

Darran
The Palace Group

 

[Gaahl]

I just played 1100 spins at Avalon on Ruby Fortune before hitting the free spin round, and when it hit, it paid 15x... Total robbery from the palace group. 900$ straight down the toilet..

So I have to agree on the point of Palace group beeing tight..


See ya later, gonna go vomit...

 

[AudiManinBoro]

Lol gaahl, thats my quota for a whole month!! At least half if not more goes to Spin palace as its my favourite casino or was lol but i dont have any experience with Ruby.

 

[KasinoKing]

I know it's very frustrating guys, but I think you've just been unlucky.

It is a very strongly held view among the online gambling community 'experts' that individual MG casinos have no control whatsoever over the pay-out %'s of any of their games.
Any MG should give the same average return as any other.

My personal return from Spin Palace since 2004 = Deposits $1240, Withdrawals $1290 = $50 up.
Not my best MG by a long chalk - but not my worst either!

 

[AudiManinBoro]

Unless Mg pays out the winnings directly itself, i cant see how that explanation can possibly work. A casino has to take money before it can pay any out according to the % ratio payouts and im sure some MG casinos have more users and are more profitable than others. Surely the casinos with more users and which has a higher turnover rate should have more frequent payouts?
Im sure MG doesnt have direct control over the individual casinos, they just provide the means and the license surely? Of course i could be wrong but if I am I find this notion very peculiar and worrying lol.

 

[AudiManinBoro]

Lol well im about 600-800 USD down THIS month at never mind since 2004 :O

 

[Mike031]

@Audi, you can choose also the "Edit" Button, then you must not post always twice

 

[AudiManinBoro]

Lol good tip i shall endeavour to remember that in future

 

[KasinoKing]

Unless Mg pays out the winnings directly itself, i cant see how that explanation can possibly work. A casino has to take money before it can pay any out according to the % ratio payouts and im sure some MG casinos have more users and are more profitable than others. Surely the casinos with more users and which has a higher turnover rate should have more frequent payouts?
Im sure MG doesnt have direct control over the individual casinos, they just provide the means and the license surely? Of course i could be wrong but if I am I find this notion very peculiar and worrying lol.

Please excuse me if I'm wrong, but the bolded bit sounds exactly the sort of comment I would expect for a frequent UK fruit machine player!

No way does any online casino have to 'take in a certain amount before it pays out'.

The casinos games ALL have a house edge - a guaranteed % income over the long term. They don't need to 'rig' them.

Certain 'skilled & disciplined' players (like myself) can win long term using bonuses & certain strategies, but the casino's main income come from players who either do not have the self-control required for this type of play, and those who only play for the entertainment value.
Take single-zero roulette for example; people keep thinking there is a way to beat it - but there simply is not. The house edge is 2.7027% on ANY bet placed on the table - this is mathematically fixed by the fact that there are 37 numbers on the wheel and any payout is based pro-rata on 35/1 for a single number.

The (reputable) casinos make their income from simple mathematics, not from 'rigging' their games.

 

[tennis_balls]

thanks KK....a well written response

even though we all know you are a highly paid shill for the casinos and all games are rigged!

 

[lojo]

I keep getting these unexplainable urges to play, any clues?

even though we all know you are a highly paid shill for the casinos and all games are rigged!

 

[AudiManinBoro]

Well we each are entitled to our opinion and i do not think the machines are fixed. But each casino is individually owned by respective people and in the world of money my friend they are out to make a profit and a big a one as they can! This of course is fine, its what business is about and you know that when you sign up, of course if your a good player you can minimise the risks and enhance your wins etc, but im fairly sure there isnt anyone here who hasent lost at online casinos at some point or another because the games are just simply playing badly and no amount of `strategy` will change that. And when you sign up no where does it day how often that that 97 % ratio is paid out. ie it could `take` money on a slot for 3 days and then pay out well or it could spread it evenly at various times every day or it could accumulate for weeks. The machines ARE controlled to a certain extent and no one will ever convince me that they are not, but i accept that by playing them and am fine with it to a certain extent.

 

[tennis_balls]

I keep getting these unexplainable urges to play, any clues?

don't worry....the govt will save you!

make a HUGE deposit at Crystal Palace....c'mon! you know you want to do it!

 

[lojo]

don't worry....the govt will save you!

make a HUGE deposit at Crystal Palace....c'mon! you know you want to do it!

I'd like to stick around and chew the fat, but I just got a hankering for a white castle burger, gristle palace, something.

 

[vinylweatherman]

Very tight indeed

MG has plumbed new depths of tightness. I can see this especially with games against a dealer, such as 3 card poker. I have had far too many bad sessions all of late where I can not even get ONE "straight" in over 100 hands, but the dealer rattles off straight after straight, and beats my lesser hands with something just good enough.

I have just gone from 1500 to zero at 32red without ONE single hand of any note. I played over 200 hands of VP, and after a decent hit early on I did not get one single hand better than 2 pair.

With all the posts about this tightening, both here and other forums, there has to be more to this than pure chance. A bad streak like this once is unlikely, but possible, but with several consecutive visits to unrelated MG casinos all giving just bad beat after bad beat it just gets plain boring. If I feel I just don't ever have a chance at a fair crack at a good run I may as well just give up. MG would do well to end this secrecy over the games, they have been found out on minor points on doubling, but there seems something more in the "microgaming streak" than just a fluke of variance would explain.

 

[Itoldyouso]

MG has plumbed new depths of tightness. I can see this especially with games against a dealer, such as 3 card poker. I have had far too many bad sessions all of late where I can not even get ONE "straight" in over 100 hands, but the dealer rattles off straight after straight, and beats my lesser hands with something just good enough.

I have just gone from 1500 to zero at 32red without ONE single hand of any note. I played over 200 hands of VP, and after a decent hit early on I did not get one single hand better than 2 pair.

With all the posts about this tightening, both here and other forums, there has to be more to this than pure chance. A bad streak like this once is unlikely, but possible, but with several consecutive visits to unrelated MG casinos all giving just bad beat after bad beat it just gets plain boring. If I feel I just don't ever have a chance at a fair crack at a good run I may as well just give up. MG would do well to end this secrecy over the games, they have been found out on minor points on doubling, but there seems something more in the "microgaming streak" than just a fluke of variance would explain.

You know someone has to pay for the absence of the US players. You better believe they have tighten the payouts to adjust to such absence.

 

[vinylweatherman]

And again

Spin Palace has just sucked me dry! This is despite it being a pretty lucky account for me. I hope the malaise has not spread.

Worse, they have introduced the "crashing" version first seen at All Slots. I am moving these over to my new PC, which is far more up to date, but some MG casinos are falling over even here - no way is this my "old PC", fix the damn software MG

 

[miket2112]

I liked the in the past

While still abe to play at spin palace, I was always pleased with them. I have had many dry spells with many casinos. Sometimes you get a great win and many times not. I had a great hit recently at another group that still take US players, but had to go through too much BS to even try to cash out so I pissed it all away. BTW $1200 win on a $50 deposit.For all that can still play with the chance of getting paid without too much trouble, I say hang in there your time will come.

Have fun

Mike

 

[AudiManinBoro]

My feelings exactly VinylWeatherman which is why i started this thread. If you give your loyalty to one casino and spend a lot at said casino especaily over a period of years you dont expect to be used like some walking mat to be abused. Im glad you agree with this one, being a forum newbie here, althought not a gaming newbie i expected some people to start shouting at me lol

 

[AudiManinBoro]

It is debatable as to whether or not it is the individual casinos or microgaming themselves taht si the cause of thei tightness. I know exactly what you mean Vinylweatherman about the 3 car poker, just like blackjack the computer amazingly manages to get straights and flushes very regularly whereas your lucky to get one :S Game of chance and fairness? it isnt really is it!

 

[Mike031]

@Audi, do you remember at yesterday, Edit Button and so on? *lol*

Only a little tip

 

[AudiManinBoro]

grrrr Mike pmsl yup i do remember, just many of the forums ive chatted on havent had that really neat function. Only habits die hard and all lol