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I put 5 figures through unregulated sportsbooks monthly, why not give unregulated casinos a go lol
I put 5 figures through unregulated sportsbooks monthly, why not give unregulated casinos a go lol
Does this group have a name though?This is the unfortunate thing, a great group and a great rep so really don't want to sound downbeat against them. Unfortunately the same shoe doesn't fit all, so explaining away 3 jobs, a self employed aspect and receipt of some benefit allowances is a pain. Can't blame them for adhering to requirements, but my circumstances are not 'standard' and to be honest, it is a trifle personal having to explain away my unconventional finances to someone who doesn't understand! Plus, I have been in profit of late from some casino play, so will they need evidence of this as well?
Ask them to provide a copy of your wife's explicit consent to processing & storing her personal information under the GDPR then you will send it, otherwise you will report them to the ICO for attempting to unlawfully processing data they have no consent for.The problem. I should be able to print payslips (2 come from online access which I've never bothered with and may pose an issue logging in) but in their last e-mail they have asked to see a copy of my wife's disability statement. Sorry, but no, this is dragging on and getting too personal plus I am 100% sure my wife would go ballistic if I share her personal/private details with a casino!!
Would that actually work?Ask them to provide a copy of your wife's explicit consent to processing & storing her personal information under the GDPR then you will send it, otherwise you will report them to the ICO for attempting to unlawfully processing data they have no consent for.
I get what you're saying, but the money trail can't include third parties, especially if they don't consent. If they have concerns about the legitimacy of the funds then they should be reporting it to the NCA.Would that actually work?
Casino follow the trail regardless of subject/s. They are following a money trail. How can they be unlawfully processing data? Banks do it under CDD all day every day, regardless of VIP's or Persons of political importance (I forget the actual term) or Queen Mum, although im sure she would get through a source of wealth no probs but good luck following that trail.
The subjects do not have to provide consent but then the casino dont have to approve and would be silly to do so as they would be doing so without completing CDD.
Are the casino not putting the onus of consent on to the data subject seeing as the funds are linked? They are not requesting anything from the other person directly. I mean, it sounds to me like the trail could end at provision of the statement.
I get what you're saying, but the money trail can't include third parties, especially if they don't consent. If they have concerns about the legitimacy of the funds then they should be reporting it to the NCA.
Look at it this way, if someone won say £50k, and the casino asked for the wifes payslips, contract of employment, stuff like that, and the wife says, not a chance are you sending stuff like that to an online casino, the customer might be tempted to send them without her knowledge. If the wife has explicitly refused consent then they are almost certainly in breach of the GDPR by processing the details. If they want documents from a third party, then they should ask for them directly, not ask someone else to provide them.
Agree they are gong too far with the imminent new guidance.
Agree that you should still be able to deposit though. Most checks by decent casinos are done quickly and efficiently. Letting the business relationship continue is of benefit to both in an ideal situation. Player gets to keep playing, submits docs, get reviewed, get withdrawals.
yes and if consent isn't provided then they end the business relationship and pay the customer. But that doesn't happen, they threaten to keep the customer's money if they don't provide third party details, even if they have told them the third party won't consent. They are holding the customers money to ransom to get them to provide the information.Agree that they should. The money trail has to include third parties otherwise money laundering would be easy. The trail cant stop there.
Of course they cant process or hold details for her without her consent but fairly certain under the reg's that the business deals with the client and any consent comes via that client. If the consent is not there then we come to this, where casino wont process and client wont provide info. No way around it. Business must follow trail to end or will fail completing SOW.
If customer consents without 3rd parties knowledge then there is a problem between the client and 3rd party. This way, rightly or wrongly, the casinos dont spend ages contacting 3rd parties about clients gambling funds, could you imagine?
Remember speaking to business owners asking if they had their partners/board of directors consent for checks and some would say yes when you knew they had not asked. You would ask them if they wanted to check and some would go 'no, its fine, go ahead'. Buck is passed to the customer once again.
except when you don’t want to send in these docs...then the system falls apart when you have a withdrawal...
also...I have a multitude of sources for my wealth/income...so it wouldn’t stop at me showing them my bank statement....they would want to see where the deposits into the one bank account i use for online casinos come from...and if they are legit...that would mean...id have to show them where the deposits from my other bank account into the online casino bank account come from...I mean where does it stop...they would want to see and here’s the list:
- Employment income -payslip with a bank statement, documents confirming salary and/or tax returns.
- Inheritance Income -a copy of the will
- Investments
- Dispositions – legal agreements, bank statement
- Property- evidence of title, copies of trust deeds
- Ownership of business -audited accounts containing information on dividends
- Confirmation from regulated professionals with knowledge such as accountants,lawyers etc.
- or any other type of documents explaining your total net worth.
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Urrghh nuts..
Agree that they should. The money trail has to include third parties otherwise money laundering would be easy. The trail cant stop there.
i have noticed they always ask for sow when you have a withdrawal pending if anyone can say otherwise i will believe them, but in my workings with casinos since all this sow started always been on a withdrawal.Is there a risk to a casino losing its license if they do not complete SOW and are reported or audited? If yes when should they ideally have requested this, I mean after how many deposit/withdrawal this, or after what amount, or is that up to their discretion?
Rizk, Casumo, LeoVegas & LV Bet all asked me with no withdrawal pending. LV Bet possibly waited until the withdrawal had been processed before doing so, as I withdrew and 24 hours later got the SoW. Regardless the outcome was the same, closed account instantlyi have noticed they always ask for sow when you have a withdrawal pending if anyone can say otherwise i will believe them, but in my workings with casinos since all this sow started always been on a withdrawal.
But you don't necessarily need to have a withdrawal pending to be held to ransom Colin.Rizk, Casumo, LeoVegas & LV Bet all asked me with no withdrawal pending. LV Bet possibly waited until the withdrawal had been processed before doing so, as I withdrew and 24 hours later got the SoW. Regardless the outcome was the same, closed account instantly