Slotty Vegas - UK self-exclusion breach

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mac72

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We have discussed this with a lawyer and it wouldn't be an effective defence in that type of situation. The assets would need to be in Lisa's sole name for, if memory serves, 8 years before no claim could be made against them. The advice we were given is that this is akinned to trying to transfer all your assets to your children before you die. If it's obvious that's what's been going on then the courts will see through it.

Oh yeah, and at the point of incorporation neither of us would have been given a mortgage by ourselves that would have covered our house.

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The 8 years is better starting sometime :) But you'd still have been better having only 1 of you in the company and the other out. Even on 50/50 ownership only 50% would ever be in play, the way you have it now your allin.
 

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@mac72 If you search here to the earliest thread re. fake games, you can check which of those casinos were offered the real ones afterwards by Netent and are still going. You'll find a few of them on Outdated URL (Invalid) too.

@ThePOGG It may again be worth pointing out that some operations have a legitimate side for the UK and the crooked behaviour outside. This we saw recently with 21bet.co.uk and 21bet.com where the UK site was kosher and the .com site provided fake games. Then their CS denied having any association with the bent site, despite an identical skin, sponsoring the same soccer team etc. When that excuse was ridiculed they then claimed the Malta/.com side of things was because they were stitched up by a games aggregator who supplied their (fake) software and that this games aggregator allegedly had a valid MGA license, which if true is very worrying. Even if true how on earth (given that despite their denials they were run by the same people) can it not have been noticed that the cost of the genuine software for UK players was different to the faked games on the .com site??? This is prime example of a clean face for us and the crooked side for less well regulated jurisdictions as well as showing Malta has been infiltrated by criminals IF 21bet's claim their fake games aggregator was licensed there is true... @mac72 search here for 21bet fake slots Aliens South Park etc.

Second example - rogued here bcasino legit UK license, they pay out, genuine games but are part of the rogue operation that runs oceanbets who are a 1668/JAZ scam site who have offered up fake games. The proof is irrefutable - take a look about the forum.

So it's not that unusual to have scammers associated with casinos that on the face of it to us in the UK are legit. Therefore if connections are known or highly suspected the affs and players have a right to enquire further, to know with whom they are working with and spending money with. So ownership is important for their associates, whether thePOGG or Casinomeister.

Just to make it clear, Bet-at or Slotty Vegas have never been seen to offer fake games and in fact from my point of view are two pretty good casinos in my playing experience.

@lockinlove Referring to your wife/partner as the 'missus' which many blokes here in the UK, including myself do is accepted familiarity. I wouldn't address another bloke's partner as his 'missus' in front of him. It's rude. A bit like calling my child a little so-and-so - I wouldn't call another parent's the same in front of them. So the reports of this over-personal stuff were justified. Which is why I reminded that civility was required for this thread.
 

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... As for your explanation as to how you set up your own company that may well fly with joe public but unfortunately i'm not buying it. ...

I'm not sure how you think it is your place to be criticising the corporate structure of ThePogg or how they as a couple have arranged their affairs but I'm pretty certain it's none of your damn business. I know them both and vouch for their authenticity 100%, but that's rather beside the point. That subject has nothing to do with the subject at hand and you trying to drag it onto the table for your own personal reasons is beginning to piss a fair number of us off. You can think whatever you like but from our point of view you're being a belligerent arse and that has no place here.

Stick to the topic, keep the personal attacks to yourself (however cleverly you think you may have veiled them), and leave ThePogg's corporate affairs out of it. Or piss off, as you like.
 

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I'm not sure how you think it is your place to be criticising the corporate structure of ThePogg or how they as a couple have arranged their affairs but I'm pretty certain it's none of your damn business. I know them both and vouch for their authenticity 100%, but that's rather beside the point. That subject has nothing to do with the subject at hand and you trying to drag it onto the table for your own personal reasons is beginning to piss a fair number of us off. You can think whatever you like but from our point of view you're being a belligerent arse and that has no place here.

Stick to the topic, keep the personal attacks to yourself (however cleverly you think you may have veiled them), and leave ThePogg's corporate affairs out of it. Or piss off, as you like.
I'm querying info to do with a UK ltd Company when UK Company made a long speech about transparency of another Company. And what sort of language is that to use to a forum member?? It doesn't take long for the bully boys to come out and i wasn't "veiling" anything i was speaking straight up not throwing innuendo
 

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I'm querying info to do with a UK ltd Company when UK Company made a long speech about transparency of another Company. And what sort of language is that to use to a forum member?? It doesn't take long for the bully boys to come out and i wasn't "veiling" anything i was speaking straight up not throwing innuendo

Like I said, it's not part of this discussion and absolutely not cool the way you've handled it. You're making personal comments and criticisms about their business affairs which, as I've said already, is not relevant. Furthermore you are doing it to belittle and discredit them and that is most certainly not welcome here.

And FYI I'm not a "bully boy", I'm a moderator here and I'm moderating you because you're being a PITA. Take that however you like but the bottom line is that you can comply or you can find somewhere else to post. Simples.
 
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mac72

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Like I said, it's not part of this discussion and absolutely not cool the way you've handled it. You're making personal comments about their business affairs which, as I've said already, is not relevant and not welcome.

And FYI I'm not a "bully boy", I'm a moderator here and I'm moderating you because you're being a PITA. Take that however you like but the bottom line is that you can comply or you can find somewhere else to post. Simples.
Well as a mod you should find some professionalism and mind your language and i'd like an apology ,i won't be spoken to like that especially when people are taking grave offence to the word "missus" which is subjective as to whether its insulting , whereas your comments are not
In the UK a ltd. Company is supposed to be pretty much an open book and that initial comment of mine was made due to the Poggs delving into the ownership of another company i thought a bit of balance was fair play. It is always strange when someone who obviously started and runs/is the main player in a company has their wife in as a director so it was a fair observation one which i think i clarified at the time may have been nothing untoward. Everything that came from that was a to and fro and that was a two way street.
 

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Well as a mod you should find some professionalism and mind your language and i'd like an apology ...

How about a week's vacation instead? This ain't your personal platform, you are not at liberty to critique our requests regarding your forum behaviour, and there are rules that everyone needs to respect. The sooner you accept that the smoother things will go in the future. Somehow I think that message is falling on deaf ears but I can only tell you what we expect of you, I can't make you listen.
 

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And dont forget : “Hang on tight and survive. Everybody does.”

Yeah, unfortunately some people forget (or ignore) that they are along for the ride as our guests. That can be a serious problem.
 

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The 8 years is better starting sometime :) But you'd still have been better having only 1 of you in the company and the other out. Even on 50/50 ownership only 50% would ever be in play, the way you have it now your allin.

I'm disappointed with myself for checking this thread this morning, but never mind.

I can't believe I'm about to do this, but here you go:

mortgage-1.jpg



As you can see, both our names are still on the mortgage (our major asset).

Whether you think our business structure is wise or not isn't really relevant. It is what I said it is. If we want advice on how to structure our business I can assure you that a gambling forum isn't going to be where we come for it. As far as transparency goes I hope everyone here is properly sated by this point.

Again, leaving it here. If anyone has questions that haven't already been covered, feel free to PM me.

TP



P.S. Lisa retained her own name for anyone who hasn't worked that out already ;)
 
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Well this escalated quickly lol was out last night and have 23 notifications of reply. Sadly none from Max Ent though. I take it they are tucking into their Ukrainian fry ups as we speak
 

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Wow...

Now a serious question:
Can we add betblocker as a solution to help customers control gambling within our responsible gaming pages?

@ThePOGG
 

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To make everything as transparent as possible - I'm also the manager of BetBlocker.org - this is a project that ThePOGG funds but isn't run as a business, so when someone contacts support there, I'm the one that responds.

I only read the important sentences ;)
 
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