Slots Fairness Discussion (Cut from Other Thread)

[Tourettesguy]

Well thene you are a troll funnymunny

 

[eizei]

What really confuses me is all the people claiming in various ways slots are not random, how bigger bet sizes have lower rtp, how at the end of a bonus a doom switch gets enabled on your account, how a version update coinciding with a bad run means the math behind the game has been changed and on and on. Yet the same people still seem to play these slots. I ask what the hell are you thinking? Are you so addicted to gambling that you play despite being pretty much sure you're getting cheated or are you hoping that this time when you make a deposit the casino's automated system or an employee (lol) forgets to shaft you out of your money?

 

[CasinoNinja]

Those screenshots are pretty hilarious if you compare them with mines...

100 free spins on 21 euro bet, lol.

Cashed out at 9000 euro. HAVE A NICE DAY SIR. I shit my pants btw if the casino actually would pay out or not. Paying out is a second issue with many casino's online as well.

Congrats, if you won 10k at 21 euros that's 476x your stake. Hardly impressive, especially considering 100 freespins!

 

[trancemonkey]

Waat? Show me where I wrote that? Ive told you numerous times clearly what I mean but you seem to have some kind of block in your head and dont wanna hear what Im saying...like a liberal Trump hater.

When there is one freak win on every balance, like €2, €3, €4 and so on there are 10 freak wins on last bet (€1)...if there are two on average on each bet there are probably 20 freak wins on last spin... Will probably see a freak win here on the forum on last bet very soon again...

Is your second sentence not saying exactly what you just denied saying? I can't read what you've written there in any other way than "more big wins happen on the last spin than any other spin"... i think you've watched too much Trump and started saying that what you've said isn't actually what you've said... haha

 

[Tourettesguy]

Is your second sentence not saying exactly what you just denied saying? I can't read what you've written there in any other way than "more big wins happen on the last spin than any other spin"... i think you've watched too much Trump and started saying that what you've said isn't actually what you've said... haha

Wow I really dont understand you, are you saying Im saying freak wins ONLY occour on last spin or what? Where do I say that?

 

[Tourettesguy]

Monkey,

If these figures I post here below actually was true(which they are) woundnt you think its little too strange to be random?
"#Freak wins and at which balance: (€1 bets) For ex found on this forum...

€1 =10 freak wins
€2 = 3
€3 = 1
€4 = 0
€5 = 0
€6 = 0
€7 = 0
€8 = 0
€9 = 1
€10 = 1
€11 = 0
.
.
.
€30 = 0
€31 = 1
€32 = 3
€33 = 0
.
.
.
€71 = 0
€72 = 1
€73 = 0
.
.
€99 = 1
€100 = 2
€101 = 1
€102 = 0
.
.
And so on..."

 

[CasinoNinja]

and where is your stats there are 10 freak wins on the last €1 (on 1 stake) compared to any other balance. Where do you get your numbers from?

 

[Bloatgoat]

And then Bloatgoat woke up, alone, from his restless dreams. The laptop was still switched on. "Insufficient credits to play" said the Fiesta Cubana slot...

Lmao! There's no need to play slots at all on holliday man. There are really big landbased casino's over there. Worth the visit.

 

[Tourettesguy]

and where is your stats there are 10 freak wins on the last €1 (on 1 stake) compared to any other balance. Where do you get your numbers from?

€1 I say just to make it more easy... I mean with that last spin from busting...and €2 I mean 2 spins from busting and so on.... Ive pointed you 2 freak win on last spin posted right after each other in one thread... I can find at least 5 on this forum quite fast... I doubt you or anyone can find even 2 freak win on the same number of left spins until balance will be bust.. Which say there is a much much greater chance hitting a freak win on last spin than on for ex when you can make 26 more spins until bust.

 

[trancemonkey]

Wow I really dont understand you, are you saying Im saying freak wins ONLY occour on last spin or what? Where do I say that?

I think it's pretty obvious what i'm suggesting you're saying, but let me type it in bold, red and large font again for you, as you've obviously missed it in the two posts i've said it previously:

I can't read what you've written there in any other way than "MORE BIG WINS HAPPEN ON THE LAST SPIN THAN ANY OTHER SPIN".

... which is EXACTLY what you are saying. I never used the word only in that statement as you can clearly see

Here's the balances and stakes from the first 20 big wins posted in the February screen shots:

1. 214.50 won at a balance of 175.95 at 1.00 bet
2. 146.30 won at a balance of 379.78 at 1.40 bet
3. 151.96 won at a balance of 17.55 at 0.40 bet
4. 57.40 won at a balance of 77.43 at 0.40 bet
5. 63.77 won at a balance of 14.37 at 0.20 bet
6. 107.00 won at a balance of 63.59 at 0.20 bet
7. 116.20 won at a balance of 91.95 at 0.40 bet
8. 80.80 won at a balance of 196.37 at 0.40 bet
9. 594.00 won at a balance of 28.09 at 0.30 bet
10. 60.06 won at a balance of 4.27 at 0.20 bet
11. 53.29 won at a balance of 5.31 at 0.50 bet
12. 5265.00 won at a balance of 1494.47 at 7.50 bet
13. 428.50 won at a balance of 141.84 at 1.50 bet
14. 231.45 won at a balance of 592.34 at 1.50 bet
15. 300.00 won at a balance of 377.80 at 1.00 bet
16. 185.40 won at a balance of 321.50 at 0.90 bet
17. 646.80 won at a balance of 108.04 at 0.80 bet
18. 2074.50 won at a balance of of 338.12 at 5.00 bet
19. 324.00 won at a balance of 87.79 at 0.60 bet
20. 460.70 won at a balance of 158.11 at 2.00 bet

All of these can be found at https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/winner-screenshots-february-2018.82832/page-1 (and also page 2)

As you can see, not a single one was on the last spin... in fact not a single one was within 10 spins of busting out - the nearest was 11.

So please feel free to show proof of your belief?

 

[trancemonkey]

and where is your stats there are 10 freak wins on the last €1 (on 1 stake) compared to any other balance. Where do you get your numbers from?

He has no proof because there can be no proof because a) it's not true and b) it's not true - (a) was so important it needed to be said twice

 

[trancemonkey]

Monkey,

If these figures I post here below actually was true(which they are) woundnt you think its little too strange to be random?
"#Freak wins and at which balance: (€1 bets) For ex found on this forum..."

Found on this forum where? Feel free to point me to the statistical evidence of this.. you state they are true, so the evidence will be irrefutable and demonstrably correct

And also, let's just say it WAS true, why haven't you figured out a way to exploit this? It would surely be exploitable...

 

[Tourettesguy]

Wow Trance you really are dumb...you have not still got it...LOL

1. 214.50 won at a balance of 175.95 at 1.00 bet
2. 146.30 won at a balance of 379.78 at 1.40 bet
3. 151.96 won at a balance of 17.55 at 0.40 bet
4. 57.40 won at a balance of 77.43 at 0.40 bet
5. 63.77 won at a balance of 14.37 at 0.20 bet
6. 107.00 won at a balance of 63.59 at 0.20 bet
7. 116.20 won at a balance of 91.95 at 0.40 bet
8. 80.80 won at a balance of 196.37 at 0.40 bet
9. 594.00 won at a balance of 28.09 at 0.30 bet
10. 60.06 won at a balance of 4.27 at 0.20 bet
11. 53.29 won at a balance of 5.31 at 0.50 bet
12. 5265.00 won at a balance of 1494.47 at 7.50 bet
13. 428.50 won at a balance of 141.84 at 1.50 bet
14. 231.45 won at a balance of 592.34 at 1.50 bet
15. 300.00 won at a balance of 377.80 at 1.00 bet
16. 185.40 won at a balance of 321.50 at 0.90 bet
17. 646.80 won at a balance of 108.04 at 0.80 bet
18. 2074.50 won at a balance of of 338.12 at 5.00 bet
19. 324.00 won at a balance of 87.79 at 0.60 bet
20. 460.70 won at a balance of 158.11 at 2.00 bet

What you wanna tell me with this? All balances are different, there are ONLY one win on each balance...find more huge wins on that first balance of 379,78 ...find 6-10 and youve convinced me!

 

[brianmon]

Found on this forum where? Feel free to point me to the statistical evidence of this.. you state they are true, so the evidence will be irrefutable and demonstrably correct

And also, let's just say it WAS true, why haven't you figured out a way to exploit this? It would surely be exploitable...

I think he's referring to this thread - https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/balance-saving-screenshots.68270/

But what he probably hasn't taken into account is how many days/months there are between each post.
The thread was started well over 2 years ago, yet is only 9 pages. Showing just how rare they are.

 

[Bloatgoat]

I'd like to put in a video i've posted before, please skip to part 7:45, and read on on that. They have done tests on rats.



It's not uncommon for math designers to put something in to increase the TOD (Time on device), and thus making people automaticly more and more a new breed of compulsive gamblers.

It's really simple man. They can send a 'wave' of luck into your slot. I've had it nummerous occasions, almost close to zero and BAM fullscreen on a low bet, bringing me back to where i made my deposit. And thus increasing automaticly the TOD.

Congrats, if you won 10k at 21 euros that's 476x your stake. Hardly impressive, especially considering 100 freespins!

Still was'nt that bad!

 

[dionysus]

Wow Trance you really are dumb...you have not still got it...LOL




What you wanna tell me with this? All balances are different, there are ONLY one win on each balance...find more huge wins on that first balance of 379,78 ...find 6-10 and youve convinced me!

I think one thing youll find, is hes actually rather clever.

 

[Tourettesguy]

Showing just how rare they are.

Those are not all...most freak shots are not posted there at all.

 

[Tourettesguy]

hes actually rather clever.

I see that when he post small win of different balances...he still dont udnerstand anything what Im saying....very clever guy!

 

[brianmon]

Those are not all...most freak shots are not posted there at all.

well I've got 5 screenshots in one post on the first page. They were from about 3 years of play from 100's of sessions.
The only reason they were all posted at the same time, was because someone had just started the thread

 

[Tourettesguy]

"Last spin" is like €0,1-€4 balance.... make a a whole thread or find freak 1000x wins on the balance €42,1- €45 and see how many pages that thread will have... Start by finding two 1000x shot with in that balance...to see if its any use!

 

[dionysus]

i just made 4000X my bet and it was nowhere near my last spin or low balance but at the beginning of my session
you even posted before it:
"Dino you must be crying seeing these shots after what Ive pointing out so long.
Suprised you still dont get it yet..its not about the other shots, its about these freak shots coming on last spins too often to be at random and those would not come at that time if the player had €50 or something in balance left.
Im glad this is now a fact."

clearly your 'fact' was wrong, as it was at the beginning of my session not the end..rather disproving your theory.

After my post, you quickly changed your tune:
"Ive high hopes for this slots since I love 6 reelers and high volatility...will hit a win like that too soon. Hoping for same luck as you Dino, often when trying new games freak wins like this occour and youll never hit one again.

So...you win when low balance, yet win when high balance?
Gosh the casinos are as inconsistent when they 'let you hit' as your theories are.

 

[brianmon]

"Last spin" is like €0,1-€4 balance.... make a a whole thread or find freak 1000x wins on the balance €42,1- €45 and see how many pages that thread will have... Start by finding two 1000x shot with in that balance...to see if its any use!

There's a thread for that....

https://www.casinomeister.com/forum...money-screenshots-min-1000xbet.32622/page-253

although you're better off starting with the most recent and working back, because the images from some of the very early posts are no longer available.

And I actually posted one there last week - post #5047 2782x with a balance of £52


or if you want even bigger wins...
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/mega-wins-min-3000x-bet.61366/page-43

Checkout HarryBk's post #850 - 3681x bet after just 184 spins!

 

[Bloatgoat]

Math designers laugh their ass off looking at these posts. Geezus.

 

[TheAddict]

Unbloominbelievable

 

[brianmon]

Math designers laugh their ass off looking at these posts. Geezus.

I think they save that for your mystical superpower of stopping reels where they weren't supposed to stop

 

[Bloatgoat]

I think they save that for your mystical superpower of stopping reels where they weren't supposed to stop

Stopping rheels was a long time ago. Now it's funny to see people touch or slam the screen or even talk to the machine like it's their most desired lover, lol.

 

[Tourettesguy]

brian, forget that thread, everyone else hav

i just made 4000X my bet and it was nowhere near my last spin or low balance but at the beginning of my session
you even posted before it:
"Dino you must be crying seeing these shots after what Ive pointing out so long.
Suprised you still dont get it yet..its not about the other shots, its about these freak shots coming on last spins too often to be at random and those would not come at that time if the player had €50 or something in balance left.
Im glad this is now a fact."

clearly your 'fact' was wrong, as it was at the beginning of my session not the end..rather disproving your theory.

After my post, you quickly changed your tune:
"Ive high hopes for this slots since I love 6 reelers and high volatility...will hit a win like that too soon. Hoping for same luck as you Dino, often when trying new games freak wins like this occour and youll never hit one again.

So...you win when low balance, yet win when high balance?
Gosh the casinos are as inconsistent when they 'let you hit' as your theories are.

€1 =10 freak wins
€2 = 3
€3 = 1
€4 = 0
€5 = 0
€6 = 0
€7 = 0
€8 = 0
€9 = 1
€10 = 1
€11 = 0
.
.
.
€30 = 0
€31 = 1
€32 = 3
€33 = 0
.

.
€99 = 1
€100 = 2
€101 = 1
€102 = 0
.
.
€195,19 = 1 <---Here is your freak win on Gem Rocks Dino, where are the other 5-8 freak wins on this balance??


You really are as dumb as Monkey... I ve never said its impossible to hit a freak win on any other balance...LOL. Numbers here abouve shows it...and on new games first session Ive hit big which I never ever have done again on those slots...NOT ALWAYS but sometimes...on first session. And no Dino and Monkey, that does not mean I can try all 1000 slots at VideoSlots and make a fortune on first sessions on those.

I think Im done with this discussion now... Leads nowhere. But Ill points out next balancesaver when I see it..

 

[goatwack]

I had a balance saver today. I feel I can now join this discussion

 

[paul7388]

Lol like him or loathe him he certainly keeps me amused. Just had to laugh at the way he calls Dino and Monkey dumb.

Then straight after that the next posts from a Goat. Crazy thread

 

[goatwack]

Lol like him or loathe him he certainly keeps me amused. Just had to laugh at the way he calls Dino and Monkey dumb.

Then straight after that the next posts from a Goat. Crazy thread

It's the thread that keeps on giving!

Me a headache

 

[Tourettesguy]

The Meister love this thread too, it keep this forum alive!

 

[goatwack]

The Meister love this thread too, it keep this forum alive!

Trust me, if we didn't have this thread we'd still have enough Rigged threads to build a bonfire

 

[trancemonkey]

brian, forget that thread, everyone else hav


€1 =10 freak wins
€2 = 3
€3 = 1
€4 = 0
€5 = 0
€6 = 0
€7 = 0
€8 = 0
€9 = 1
€10 = 1
€11 = 0
.
.
.
€30 = 0
€31 = 1
€32 = 3
€33 = 0
.

.
€99 = 1
€100 = 2
€101 = 1
€102 = 0
.
.
€195,19 = 1 <---Here is your freak win on Gem Rocks Dino, where are the other 5-8 freak wins on this balance??


You really are as dumb as Monkey... I ve never said its impossible to hit a freak win on any other balance...LOL. Numbers here abouve shows it...and on new games first session Ive hit big which I never ever have done again on those slots...NOT ALWAYS but sometimes...on first session. And no Dino and Monkey, that does not mean I can try all 1000 slots at VideoSlots and make a fortune on first sessions on those.

I think Im done with this discussion now... Leads nowhere. But Ill points out next balancesaver when I see it..

TG, me ole mate, you make zero sense. Your theory makes zero sense.
If you started at the same balance every time, and played at the same stake, all the time, your big wins would be evenly spaced.
For some kind of compensation from the game to occur, it would have to know exactly what you're going to do before you do it - because it would need to know how long you'll stay on the game, what your bets would be, what your balance is, etc. etc.

Oh and part of my job is maths design - and yes i'm laughing at this thread. But because of the stupidity and illogical reasoning.

 

[Tourettesguy]

The software knows everything...even the color of my socks! Now you know I know this and you can stop progrmming slots this way!

 

[goatwack]

The software knows everything...even the color of my socks! Now you know I know this and you can stop progrmming slots this way!

That's nothing to do with programming.....everyone knows people with tourettes wear blue socks by nature

 

[electronictonic]

i just made 4000X my bet and it was nowhere near my last spin or low balance but at the beginning of my session
you even posted before it:
"Dino you must be crying seeing these shots after what Ive pointing out so long.
Suprised you still dont get it yet..its not about the other shots, its about these freak shots coming on last spins too often to be at random and those would not come at that time if the player had €50 or something in balance left.
Im glad this is now a fact."

clearly your 'fact' was wrong, as it was at the beginning of my session not the end..rather disproving your theory.

After my post, you quickly changed your tune:
"Ive high hopes for this slots since I love 6 reelers and high volatility...will hit a win like that too soon. Hoping for same luck as you Dino, often when trying new games freak wins like this occour and youll never hit one again.

So...you win when low balance, yet win when high balance?
Gosh the casinos are as inconsistent when they 'let you hit' as your theories are.

I have played for almost 11 years now, played every slot under the sun just about and yet my biggest x is x1800 on Immortal Romance and that was in June 2014 safe to say I have made
well over a million spins in that time, and a regular player...so I would say the odds of hitting x2000+ in my case are more than a million to one

 

[Mouche12]

It took me 12 years to get my highest win sofar (1700x on Flamebusters, stake was only $0.10 )

 

[Bloatgoat]

TG, me ole mate, you make zero sense. Your theory makes zero sense.
If you started at the same balance every time, and played at the same stake, all the time, your big wins would be evenly spaced.
For some kind of compensation from the game to occur, it would have to know exactly what you're going to do before you do it - because it would need to know how long you'll stay on the game, what your bets would be, what your balance is, etc. etc.

Yeah, and that is the part where the digital age comes around. The big data they gather on every player on every slot, just look at the records in your account, the amount of bets you did vs the win / loss and so on. It does'nt take a genuis to parse those records and get a perfect example of how your player behaviour exactly is.

You might not consider this as a tactic, but it's being spread out long time on casino floors. Slots are no longer the mechanical bandits they used to be. Slots are within parameters, some chunk of digital electronic programmed to it's finest to not make 'mistakes' as mechanical slots would do.

You see if a player would play as he does, and sticks to his playing habbit, the chances are very big they can adept the gameplay towards his behaviour. Why are you denying that the above would NOT be possible?

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A nicely written article about the subject, AI or "big data" into gambling applied. You see any online brand does'nt have to cope with this at all. They simply licence the game from a game provider and the game provider is actually the one doing all the processing. I've bin compensated in games alot of times, online, offline (landbased). I'd play and OUT OF NOWHERE get a full screen right after a deposit, or right before my balance depletes.

Or here, when depositting 600 in total, and with the next deposit, ALL OF A SUDDEN back from 200 to 600 or something in that matter. Why the hell did it do dead spins in the first place from 600 back to 0 is my question. I think the answer to this is TOD. TIME ON DEVICE. The longer the better (!). Games are being put on and offline on various casino's based on TOD and RTC (return to casino, lol). They remove games if they are not populair or have some sort of something that the casino does'nt like (for instance, really volatile since i've seen my casino removing various games all of a sudden with no given reason).

Look man. You are a small dev, with a small team, and we've bin to this discussion before, but you seem to ignore that the business around you is ALOT BIGGER then you'd imagine. Big data on SLOTS is GOLD! A math based on years of slotplay from players all over the world is a undefeatable "math" that simply could not be hacked, misleaded and whatsoever. It will guarantee profit for all party's any day.

We all know RTP is just a number, and TRTP is also just a number. I can tell games are being compensated. Lets say if i'd toss in 100. Start playing on 1 a spin. It would mean with 95% RTP i'd should get a RETURN on my last 5 bucks. The game is halfway constantly compensating with small wins, to get the numbers as close as possible. So at some point, it will hit something, and technically within the numbers LOOKED like it just did 95% RTP/TRTP but my bankroll is still sitting at 50 bucks for example.

I dont think that's fair. If casino's are advocating RTP/TRTP numbers then they should expose the rest. Esp when games are being compensated. Or when some AI decides that i am a returning regular player and some reward comes down on me for my losses.

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Here, these are the things that scare me. Winning a pretty amount of big sum, and the casino simply REFUSES with NO reason to payout. This is your business. If i was depositting a 5 grand and the casino only returned me half of it and keeping the 10 grand (which was won honestly if i read the messages correct) then i'd burn that place down to the ground. This goes out for all the brands who hold slots that have some sort of compensating, AI or some other mechanic going on that is not fair.

It took me 12 years to get my highest win sofar (1700x on Flamebusters, stake was only $0.10 )

Great for you man. This shit always happens on the lowest possible bet. It is no secret that these things dont happen from 10 to 20 a spin. The RTP is simply within parameters and thus cannot make mistakes.

 

[TheAddict]

wearing socks fully aware that the software recognizes and thus will compensates to this. So casual.
Diony nearly got it right, recently admitting subtly to wearing nothing but pants, though well planned, its the name being the key to a few compensating balance savers to get him to redeposit, probably calvin Klein or some shit.

I can only recall a handful of balance savers during my 38 wildlines on doa. It has to be these asda jersey briefs, simply way to much evidence for it to be a coincidence with so many spins played out, eliminating any and all assumptions and left only with the fact it registers that i can't afford to keep redepositing so gives me decent playtime in order to keep coming back, and so tries to deliver the big hits almost always when i have a playable balance (mostly around half of or a little under half of the deposit, sometimes roughly what i started with, a fair few times even 3x what i started the session with).
Needless to say, if you're having a lonely night in, get bored and decide to turn on the laptop while wearing the skint but cute neighbours missing thong then stop and think before being such an freaking idiot. The software won't be able to recognize a fake from a real tag although in truth you probably wouldn't either never having given any attention to that, but do so and make damn sure it ain't no pair of Bordelle.
Assume nothing. Exploit everything.

 

[goatwack]

wearing socks fully aware that the software recognizes and thus will compensates to this. So casual.
Diony nearly got it right, recently admitting subtly to wearing nothing but pants, though well planned, its the name being the key to a few compensating balance savers to get him to redeposit, probably calvin Klein or some shit.

I can only recall a handful of balance savers during my 38 wildlines on doa. It has to be these asda jersey briefs, simply way to much evidence for it to be a coincidence with so many spins played out, eliminating any and all assumptions and left only with the fact it registers that i can't afford to keep redepositing so gives me decent playtime in order to keep coming back, and so tries to deliver the big hits almost always when i have a playable balance (mostly around half of or a little under half of the deposit, sometimes roughly what i started with, a fair few times even 3x what i started the session with).
Needless to say, if you're having a lonely night in, get bored and decide to turn on the laptop while wearing the skint but cute neighbours missing thong then stop and think before being such an freaking idiot. The software won't be able to recognize a fake from a real tag although in truth you probably wouldn't either never having given any attention to that, but do so and make damn sure it ain't no pair of Bordelle.
Assume nothing. Exploit everything.

That post was pretty pants, Adam

 

[maxd]

You really are as dumb as Monkey...

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[Tourettesguy]

Sorry if I hurt your feelings Dino and Monkey

 

[trancemonkey]

Sorry if I hurt your feelings Dino and Monkey

There are a lot of opinions and beliefs in here and a lot of passion about who is right and wrong - and sometimes that spills over in to anger / frustration... i know, i've done it too...
Let's just try and not make it personal

 

[slotter999]

Yeah, and that is the part where the digital age comes around. The big data they gather on every player on every slot, just look at the and whatsoever. It will guarantee profit for all party's any day.

.

Please can I ask are you either a mathematician or IT professional by trade?

I'm curious if your statements are based on a deeper understanding of the two things outside of slots or if it's based on your real world experience of slots. Just curious

 

[trancemonkey]

Please can I ask are you either a mathematician or IT professional by trade?

I'm curious if your statements are based on a deeper understanding of the two things outside of slots or if it's based on your real world experience of slots. Just curious

I guarantee you he isn't a mathematician, because he doesn't understand statistics / chance / random / etc...

 

[Bloatgoat]

So tell me this,

I started with 50 tonight. I had 4 times i ended up on 1400. Back and forth up and down but not any higher. Even with games i've never stood a chance or where never able to hit decent, all of a sudden did their winnings. Or games that where hard to catch with bonusses, and now they where throwing if the game provider was having a excellent day or something.

Am i being compensated? This is'nt the first time in my online carreer. You have a few losing days, and just when you dont expect it things boot up in the sky.

I can put the clock on that that the fun 'ends' at some point. Nothing works anymore. Even if you go low bet / auto play which could take hours. The fun is over.

This cant be random, where slots that normally woud'nt pay that good, all of a sudden pay good. And going up to 1400 , back to 600, back to 1300 and so on. It's like my account wagered for a amount of money and i'm granted some of that in return.

I mean, even if this was true, the casino is compensating me, how is that fair? Or how does that mix with any of the RNG/Randomness bullshit? It does'nt.

 

[TheAddict]

I know its not slots but damn i lost some hair last night.
People literally playing a game of bingo at poker.
6x in bloody poker i get the money all in on a flop twice @ 4/1 , twice around 10/1 and twice around 20/1 favourite and it came running cards four outa six times and the other 2 just lost to something slightly less pathetic.
I swear all you gotta do online is re raise someone preflop by a massive amount with absolute trash, and go all in on the flop with that 92 or q5 suited crap that has completely missed, get called, and it will come 99 or running clubs to hit a backdoor flush on turn and river lol almost like clockwork.
Made good money over the years, but if i could win even just 50% of the time when bloody 10/1 favourite or better as the money goes in id be damn rich, and that still applies if forgetting the money itself and just counting all the keyboards that i didn't keep having to replace.

 

[dionysus]

So tell me this,

Back and forth up and down

You have a few losing days, and just when you dont expect it things boot up in the sky.

the fun 'ends' at some point. Nothing works anymore.

going up to 1400 , back to 600, back to 1300 and so on.

.

so you pretty much just described random.
Cheers

 

[trancemonkey]

So tell me this,

I started with 50 tonight. I had 4 times i ended up on 1400. Back and forth up and down but not any higher. Even with games i've never stood a chance or where never able to hit decent, all of a sudden did their winnings. Or games that where hard to catch with bonusses, and now they where throwing if the game provider was having a excellent day or something.

Am i being compensated? This is'nt the first time in my online carreer. You have a few losing days, and just when you dont expect it things boot up in the sky.

I can put the clock on that that the fun 'ends' at some point. Nothing works anymore. Even if you go low bet / auto play which could take hours. The fun is over.

This cant be random, where slots that normally woud'nt pay that good, all of a sudden pay good. And going up to 1400 , back to 600, back to 1300 and so on. It's like my account wagered for a amount of money and i'm granted some of that in return.

I mean, even if this was true, the casino is compensating me, how is that fair? Or how does that mix with any of the RNG/Randomness bullshit? It does'nt.

Seems like your experience was quite random... which is odd, because you describe a random series of events and then somehow conclude it was compensated. There really is no way you'll ever change your mind...

 

[Bloatgoat]

Seems like your experience was quite random... which is odd, because you describe a random series of events and then somehow conclude it was compensated. There really is no way you'll ever change your mind...

I dont believe it, untill i see it.

It's really odd. For the games that never did a damn thing in their life and all of a sudden showing their best. Multiple games, but never allowed me to pass 1400. It's like you hit a wall, a limit, a predetermined something. A loss compensator for the bad days you had in a row. It's like the moment you start playing already it's decided for you.

For the people who believe now that losing gets you compensated; dont.