Slot brutality

dogshead1

Acting like a jerk - flaming
PABnonaccred
So played solid across several casinos past couple of weeks and been playing regularly for the past two years.

Just now come to the assumption we are fed a load of bollox by casinos havin their slot software audited bla bla bla.

Opened many accounts with hundreds of casinos at the majority where o take a bonus I will get a great session where RTP runs as expected or greater to only complete die of on all slots just before your about to complete. This either tilts you and go broke. Go broke anyway or get barely your initial deposit back. If you win huge they make you jump through hoops before cashing out.

The odd few you win huge amounts upon initial sign up but after a couple of large withdrawals every slot goes dead with RTP on all session hovering around 50% or below.

Overal in the long run your gameplay and return is not random. You can win huge one week on any certain slot but thereafter whenever and however long a period you play in day to day month to month etc it will run dead till it's clawed all you one back and more.

This week alone MT Securetrade. Not naming the casino made a withdrawal of £700 every MT Securetrade casino I played at since I've have seen 5 features in 3800 spins at £1 bet average with and RTP no greater than 40% book of dead my favourite slot knowing it's volatile at time played out 1514 spins before I triggered a feature. Witch was triggered by a 4 book scatter that somehow completely missed a 5 line hit on any symbol and paid a mere £65 on £1 prior RTP over the course of the 1514 spins was around 35%. Complete bollox if you ask me. Not far off from playing through jackpot at that stake! With fuck all return.

Casumo here the funny thing. Great casino I've played their loads first deposit took bonus through money at me met wager cashed out a huge sum. Now large cash outs do not pass by.

Introduced my wife. She has made £50 worth of deposits in the past 2 weeks every deposit she won at least 5x her deposit and cashed out. Her overal profit to date £700. I'm waiting for the wins to die down and the will. Beginners luck my ass!

At the end of the day it's all computerised and they have your IP and MAC address etc. But the don't really need that as just your account profile will collate all your playability, session times, log in times deposit and withdrawal tendencies etc.

Fuck it all I'm done with it. The fun is gone we are all talking about and noticing the sudden changes in RTP in all the new slot releases after the initial honeymoon period!

They are all just greedy thieves and we as the gamers suffer!

Probably be banned for this post lol Just thought I'd air my thoughts!
 

dunover

Unofficial T&C's Editor
Staff member
webmeister
PABnonaccred
PABnononaccred
CAG
mm3
So played solid across several casinos past couple of weeks and been playing regularly for the past two years.

Just now come to the assumption we are fed a load of bollox by casinos havin their slot software audited bla bla bla.

Opened many accounts with hundreds of casinos at the majority where o take a bonus I will get a great session where RTP runs as expected or greater to only complete die of on all slots just before your about to complete. This either tilts you and go broke. Go broke anyway or get barely your initial deposit back. If you win huge they make you jump through hoops before cashing out.

The odd few you win huge amounts upon initial sign up but after a couple of large withdrawals every slot goes dead with RTP on all session hovering around 50% or below.

Overal in the long run your gameplay and return is not random. You can win huge one week on any certain slot but thereafter whenever and however long a period you play in day to day month to month etc it will run dead till it's clawed all you one back and more.

This week alone MT Securetrade. Not naming the casino made a withdrawal of £700 every MT Securetrade casino I played at since I've have seen 5 features in 3800 spins at £1 bet average with and RTP no greater than 40% book of dead my favourite slot knowing it's volatile at time played out 1514 spins before I triggered a feature. Witch was triggered by a 4 book scatter that somehow completely missed a 5 line hit on any symbol and paid a mere £65 on £1 prior RTP over the course of the 1514 spins was around 35%. Complete bollox if you ask me. Not far off from playing through jackpot at that stake! With fuck all return.

Casumo here the funny thing. Great casino I've played their loads first deposit took bonus through money at me met wager cashed out a huge sum. Now large cash outs do not pass by.

Introduced my wife. She has made £50 worth of deposits in the past 2 weeks every deposit she won at least 5x her deposit and cashed out. Her overal profit to date £700. I'm waiting for the wins to die down and the will. Beginners luck my ass!

At the end of the day it's all computerised and they have your IP and MAC address etc. But the don't really need that as just your account profile will collate all your playability, session times, log in times deposit and withdrawal tendencies etc.

Fuck it all I'm done with it. The fun is gone we are all talking about and noticing the sudden changes in RTP in all the new slot releases after the initial honeymoon period!

They are all just greedy thieves and we as the gamers suffer!

Probably be banned for this post lol Just thought I'd air my thoughts!
No, you won't get banned for foil-hatting, we all do it! You're frustrated as indeed I am with my crappiest run since joining CM, dreadful 'egg-timer' deposits (means the balance level only goes down and never up) one after the other. It has also been said on here slots play better when new then 'settle down' - not by me but others seem to think so. Take a break if you aren't enjoying it. I only play them as they relax and calm me, making me of more a sunny disposition.
 

goatwack

Swingin' like Darryl Strawberry
CAG
I have seen this topic discussed vaguely around here, but I can't exactly recall when :eek::eek:
 

dogshead1

Acting like a jerk - flaming
PABnonaccred
No, you won't get banned for foil-hatting, we all do it! You're frustrated as indeed I am with my crappiest run since joining CM, dreadful 'egg-timer' deposits (means the balance level only goes down and never up) one after the other. It has also been said on here slots play better when new then 'settle down' - not by me but others seem to think so. Take a break if you aren't enjoying it. I only play them as they relax and calm me, making me of more a sunny disposition.
For me the same I like a good session win or lose not bothered it's entertainment value with a chance of coming away quids in. Problem is more and more I see the entertainment value goes. Playing with a 500-1000 spin rule does not seem to gaurentee a decent session anymore.

The new slots play great upon release but are all being set up to potentially pay huge (which you don't see) Netents Jungle Spirit being the latest culprit. The reverse factor of such a set up is the developers arguement of volatility is to be expected giving the potential overall payout from a single coin bet! This creating more and more so the egg timer affect!

I really think since the release of Rhino, Book of Dead and Ra they saw how well they took of and the potential these types of games have as a money maker for them. Even Rhino for me seems like a very expensive bonus round with nil return these days. That's why I stay away. Game had changed.

Keep bashing out them videos though keeps me going and sane at work at night
 

toph11

Experienced Member
i was playing candy dreams at 2-2.50 a spin for 3 hours
my credits were between 200-500 in those 3 hours
i upped the bet to 5 dollars a spin and i lost all of my credits in 5 minutes
500 to nothing in almost not a single win above half a bet
the game completly changed as soon as i hit max bet
 

goatwack

Swingin' like Darryl Strawberry
CAG
The IP address thing wouldn't even surprise me either, and it'd be naive to not think casinos monitor more of our habits than we realize. Games played, RTP, deposits made etc. Who truly knows what goes on, and especially in regards to the software providers to whom you are linked to at all times.

Also, 90% of my best sessions have been at new casinos. Same games, same stakes, immense results......bit of a coincidence? Not to, I don't know, get players to become hooked on games thinking it's easy money per chance?

So you stick to roughly the same set of games, and voilà! the games are dead as a dodo. Night, day, small bets, large bets - it's recoup time!

You wanted tinfoil, and tinfoil you shall have :oops::eek:
 

lana.k

Newbie member
yeah yeah it's all random :p :p :p
I don't know what happend to microgaming or netent but i think they crossed a line and what they are doing is organized crime.
 

nojoke

Experienced Member
Every player is profiled.

How much you normaly deposit, What games you will or wont play, How much bet per spin, How fast you spin.
What days you deposit, what times you deposit, How many deposits you will make before quiting the casino.
What loss level you will accept before making a complaint, Wether you play auto or sit n click etc etc.
Its all just Data and for sure they are going to use whatever Data they have to get their desired results.

They get so much information about you that it is easy to set traps or send teasers by email.
As soon as you log in, they are 1 step ahead. If you dont log in they send the tempters and teasers and when you log in..They are 1 step ahead.

They deal with modern technology and they know how to get results using a combination of DATA and Technology.
The Data is also sellable, Data sells. More profit for casino.

Question everything, Because you are expected not to.
 

dogshead1

Acting like a jerk - flaming
PABnonaccred
Well it's now officially £1000 played through on book of dead in 3 days. £1 highest and almost all bet size 1600 spins RTP speaks for itself absolute disgraceful. 3 features highest pay 65x stake!

Biggest line win main game 10x stake on average one every 125 spins

Average wins overall main game 1x stake!

Verdict. Been conned and what a vile piece of dirt!

I'd have more fun and better return playing cops and robbers on the cruise ships!
 

adamtheaddict

Meister Member
Well it's now officially £1000 played through on book of dead in 3 days. £1 highest and almost all bet size 1600 spins RTP speaks for itself absolute disgraceful. 3 features highest pay 65x stake!

Biggest line win main game 10x stake on average one every 125 spins

Average wins overall main game 1x stake!

Verdict. Been conned and what a vile piece of dirt!

I'd have more fun and better return playing cops and robbers on the cruise ships!
Those c&r have been chipped out to the point of unplayability. And if that wasnt enough the compensated rtp has been lowered since the good old days. They were making a shit load while a few were also making tidy with knowing how to play. But that wasnt enough for them .. lol.
Yet, you still probably would have more fun than the likes of online these days.
30 mins ago doal 10 spins remaining with 1 wild for a wild line. What comes in? q q j j j j q 10 10 j . Thanks for that exxcietment lol.
 

ShadyFei

Experienced Member
For me the same I like a good session win or lose not bothered it's entertainment value with a chance of coming away quids in. Problem is more and more I see the entertainment value goes. Playing with a 500-1000 spin rule does not seem to gaurentee a decent session anymore.

The new slots play great upon release but are all being set up to potentially pay huge (which you don't see) Netents Jungle Spirit being the latest culprit. The reverse factor of such a set up is the developers argument of volatility is to be expected giving the potential overall payout from a single coin bet! This creating more and more so the egg timer affect!
Preach brother.

I can't hit the broad side of a barn the past few weeks.

Different games, different casinos: Videoslots, 32Red, Betat, Slotsmillion, Betspin, Guts, even Rizk (no-fee deposit option of course). All reputable casinos. Not a single cash out from one of them. Deposit usually gone in 30 min or less.

Example: Started a session with IR at one of the above casinos, and it went like this: $1.20 bet per spin = $100 deposit gone in 87 spins. Thought the game would turn around. It didn't. :(

Anyone had any luck at a particular casino / game?
 

Mouche12

Kitty Lover
PABnonaccred
PABnoaccred
PABnononaccred
Yeah, the egg-timer effect - good word. Describes most of my sessions at VS.

Last night I blew $400 in deposits at VS, V&J and Quasar, had $16 left and played it at Guts... and what do you know, I managed to get it up to $417, cashed out immediately of course.

So, I think I'll be trying Guts for a while although I know it doesn't really matter, but still my luck at VS has been appalling (then again, Guts don't have Bonanza, which is the main cause of my piss-poor sessions).
 

lockinlove

Staring into the sun
PABaccred
Yeah, the egg-timer effect - good word. Describes most of my sessions at VS.

Last night I blew $400 in deposits at VS, V&J and Quasar, had $16 left and played it at Guts... and what do you know, I managed to get it up to $417, cashed out immediately of course.

So, I think I'll be trying Guts for a while although I know it doesn't really matter, but still my luck at VS has been appalling (then again, Guts don't have Bonanza, which is the main cause of my piss-poor sessions).
oh god you play bonanza too. Just quit it trust me. Its nothing but tilt money sucking piglet
 

illu88

Senior Member
webmeister
webby
MM
oh god you play bonanza too. Just quit it trust me. Its nothing but tilt money sucking piglet
Its waiting waiting and waiting for the Feature....1xxx spins later u got it if u are lucky
 

blue1982

Newbie member
PABnonaccred
I like a bit of tin foil hatting, but thinking about it the problem is that for every lucky big winner on a slot there are probably hundreads of losers so if you find yourself depositing a lot more than you normally would to catch the big win and cover the losses i would say that is probably a good time t0 have a break. If you are having a bad run i think that is the right decision you have made.
 

Monnii

Non-Gambler
Furious, so last couple of days:
Bdba 5 bonuses, all under 5x bet
Jungle spirit 15+ bonuses, all under 10x bet.
Wild water 1 bonus, under 10x bet
Agent jane blonde 25+ bonuses, all under 20x bet.
Dead or alive 5-10 bonuses, all under 20x bet.
Piggy riches (utter filth) no bonus, ~ 40 deadspins etc
And lots more but in the end, thousands of spins, And not a single win over 20x in bonuses and not a single win over 50x in basegame. It's litterally like throwing away money as you just.cant.hit.anything.
Edit: two more bonuses on jungle spirit, 2x and 4x.
And also, forgot to mention that i had this scenario for the first time today: basegame- reel 1&2 expanding tiger reel 3 empty reel 4&5 expanding tiger. Cheers for that netent you fucking bastard.
 
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lana.k

Newbie member
Furious, so last couple of days:
Bdba 5 bonuses, all under 5x bet
Jungle spirit 15+ bonuses, all under 10x bet.
Wild water 1 bonus, under 10x bet
Agent jane blonde 25+ bonuses, all under 20x bet.
Dead or alive 5-10 bonuses, all under 20x bet.
Piggy riches (utter filth) no bonus, ~ 40 deadspins etc
And lots more but in the end, thousands of spins, And not a single win over 20x in bonuses and not a single win over 50x in basegame. It's litterally like throwing away money as you just.cant.hit.anything.
Oh at least you got features. I played 32Red today and the slots are like dead. Candy Dreams 358 Spins no feature. 28 deposits between 50 and 100 within 7 weeks nocashout. Golden Lounge no cashout this year and 1200 Euro lost. Support keeps telling me that the RTP is not bad...come on.
AllJackpotsCasino 2700+ losses and one of the worst casinos out there. I lost nearly 10k within 3 months.
Microgaming is a nightmare.
 

BrianGhattas

Where's My Handpay?!?
It's sad when you end up withdrawing $65 profit + starting deposit because you fear it's going to be flushed down the toilets of tight slots. At least at VS I had a long run with my $50 in the last 24 hours going from $50 to $80 to $18 to $80 to $25 to $70 to $115 in the balance. Decided to just end my losing streak online as I had only one other win in a sea of losses after my $1000 Viking Runecraft bonus and $800 cashout.

There's just not enough good slots any more for Canadians. My tin foil hat has me thinking they're (the government and the slot providers) trying to deter us from gambling in Canada by making all the casinos bad. It's working in my case.
 

lockinlove

Staring into the sun
PABaccred
It's sad when you end up withdrawing $65 profit + starting deposit because you fear it's going to be flushed down the toilets of tight slots. At least at VS I had a long run with my $50 in the last 24 hours going from $50 to $80 to $18 to $80 to $25 to $70 to $115 in the balance. Decided to just end my losing streak online as I had only one other win in a sea of losses after my $1000 Viking Runecraft bonus and $800 cashout.

There's just not enough good slots any more for Canadians. My tin foil hat has me thinking they're (the government and the slot providers) trying to deter us from gambling in Canada by making all the casinos bad. It's working in my case.
Im not kidding you I started to do the same. I would get up $60 on an MG casino and cash it out because if you grind it up a bit...you are going to lose it. But if you hit good you can keep playing

Last night $12 jurassic park bets. RTP once again went from 113% to 36% as soon as I raised big. I dropped down to .90. I got 3 bonuses right away. 10x 43x and 312x. I can show the play history to anyone who doesnt believe this doesnt happen. It happens every single time. Big bets are on a different server without question.

I do like videoslots though. You can jump from provider to proivder if one is treating you like garbage
 
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