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Shark Casino Owes Me $29,500

Update

Just an update since I originally posted this, oh so many months ago:

Shark still owes me $14,600 (they paid me $15,000 since my original post). I have not been paid by Shark since October. I have not been able to contact anyone at Shark since prior to Christmas.

Just noticed that in January they were rogued by Casinomeister for lack of communication and a poor name. This doesn't seem optimistic. :(
 
I wonder what happened to Virtual Ted, who was going to work at this place I heard?

He may have made an improvement.

With Shark apparently reverting to its old, bad behaviour he would probably have not lasted long, anyway.
 
Virtual Ted was Phynqster's handle when he was at Virtual. He left, and then began working for "Shark" using the Phynqster handle. He no longer works at Shark.

As far as I know, there are no Shark reps here.
 
And what do you expect when you play at a casino called "Shark"? :what:

Pick up a dictionary and read the definitions.

Shark 2
1. a person who preys greedily on others, as by cheating or usury.
2. Informal. a person who has unusual ability in a particular field.
verb (used with object) 3. Archaic. to obtain by trickery or fraud; steal.
verb (used without object) 4. Archaic. to live by shifts and stratagems.


And you played there because...?
 
Nicaragua probably played there when Shark was turning heads over the summer with their steady $2500 weekly payments. Unfortunatley when you have high 5 figure wins, the payment scheme dies, payments get backlogged, etc. b.s. and then you are at their mercy.

Nicaragua, did they ever encourage you to deposit more and "pay you quicker", or keep a regular active account, or a barrage of other tactics since your initial withdrawal?
 
Some helpful advice from Shark Casino

Hello Nicaragua, I'm sorry to hear it hasn't been going well for you. I had a keen interest in your own story since it surfaced around the same time as my own and was in the same vein. I haven't checked the site in a long time since my own payment saga has been going a lot better recently.

I decided to ask Shark what the story with your situation is and got some helpful "advice" from their friendly customer support team. Seems all you have to do is ask and they will give you the money they owe you. Haha, what a crock. I'd encourage anyone else who wants to help Nicaragua out to do the same as I just did if you have a few minutes to spare. Here's the conversation:


Mauricio: welcome

you: hello

Mauricio: hey

you: is there any truth the the rumor on the internet that you are not paying a player 10,000?

you: I read about it on a site called casino meister.com

Mauricio: is not true.... do you know the link

you: https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/shark-casino-owes-me-29-500.13365/

Mauricio: do you know or have the player name or any other info because thats not true we pay everyday to all our customers.

you: he goes by the name nicaragua on the site

you: These are his words "Just an update since I originally posted this, oh so many months ago: Shark still owes me $14,600 (they paid me $15,000 since my original post). I have not been paid by Shark since October. I have not been able to contact anyone at Shark since prior to Christmas."

Mauricio: ohhhh thats a really old post and that has been solved long time ago... he getting paid.

you: he made the post I quoted just 3 days ago

Mauricio: all he need is request a new payout, hes doesnt have any pending in our system.

Mauricio: if you know him tell him to post a new request.
you: ok. I'm going to post your advice for him, if that's ok with you.
Mauricio: no problem but is not true that we dont pay... we pay everyday to our customers but they have to post a request first.

you: ok

you: thanks for the time
 
Nicaragua...

Hi, I'm the one who process Shark Casino payouts, just a question, since you're last payout have you requested a new withdrawal as an any regular customer do? no right? so how we're going to pay you?, another couple of questions, have you tried to call us or contact us via live chat? you can confirm with our customers that we're here helping all our customers 24/7, you're the only one who is not able to talk to us? I can assure that you haven't call us not even one time nor tried to chat with us, if you or any customer have a pending withdrawal we processed within days but if you don't sorry, we will wait until you do request it...
 
Hi, I'm the one who process Shark Casino payouts, just a question, since you're last payout have you requested a new withdrawal as an any regular customer do? no right? so how we're going to pay you?, another couple of questions, have you tried to call us or contact us via live chat? you can confirm with our customers that we're here helping all our customers 24/7, you're the only one who is not able to talk to us? I can assure that you haven't call us not even one time nor tried to chat with us, if you or any customer have a pending withdrawal we processed within days but if you don't sorry, we will wait until you do request it...

Are you referring to weekly/monthly payouts? If so, why should anyone have to request a withdraw each week? If 5 figures were requested from the initial withdraw, it should be up to the casino to keep payments coming regularly and on time, NOT the player.

PS: Nice attitude. Real professional. Not. Why act so defensive?
 
Our system shows a pending withdrawal list which I processed daily or weekly when is more than $2500, he can even request multiple withdrawals for $2500 each and I will processed weekly but I'm really sorry but I don't even know this customer's account name so there's no way I can process his payouts if they're not pending...
 
I don't even know this customer's account name so there's no way I can process his payouts if they're not pending...

You missed the point. A customer should not have to put in multiple withdraw requests if the initial withdraw is over the weekly maximum. It should be up to the casino to make sure that these payments are made on time and on a regular basis. Simple as that.
 
You missed the point. A customer should not have to put in multiple withdraw requests if the initial withdraw is over the weekly maximum. It should be up to the casino to make sure that these payments are made on time and on a regular basis. Simple as that.

I bet the player had the next $2500 request in the system and then not to his knowledge it was declined. I also bet if he put in consecutive $2500 payments, they wouldn't of been carried out. Besides, since payments are not automated at shady RTG outfits, they have to be put through manually by accounting.
 
Welcome tomil to our forum!.

I see much value for any casino operator coming here to explain his point of view.

Beaware that the guys over here are pretty tough at times.

Keep yourself here, I am sure it will pay off.
 
I agree with Winbig

Its ridiculous that a player should have to be paid by instalment in the first place if the casino is willing to take the big wagers, but making him login every week and request a payout is just mind-numbing.

The posts here from the payouts person and the live chat transcripts also show a very unprofessional style of customer service. It is fairly obvious that their grasp of English isnt great, and whilst this is fine for social conversation, it is unacceptable when dealing with predominantly English-speaking clientele - nothing personal guys, its just business.

A timely reminder of why I dont play there.
 
You missed the point. A customer should not have to put in multiple withdraw requests if the initial withdraw is over the weekly maximum. It should be up to the casino to make sure that these payments are made on time and on a regular basis. Simple as that.

Totally agree.

Silly question, but why have such a low withdrawal limit? Firstly it suggests the casino isn't well-funded. Secondly, doesn't that just encourage low-rollers and put off high-rollers from joining up? It would be pointless betting $10 a spin or going for jackpots over $2500 when you know you can't get it out for a long time. Well...to me anyway. :confused:
 
Silly question, but why have such a low withdrawal limit? Firstly it suggests the casino isn't well-funded. Secondly, doesn't that just encourage low-rollers and put off high-rollers from joining up? It would be pointless betting $10 a spin or going for jackpots over $2500 when you know you can't get it out for a long time. Well...to me anyway. :confused:

Simple answer: maximize profits and minimize costs. This is a part of the latter. When you keep paying a little (if you even pay) and make the customers ask for their money for multiple times it translates to less money "spent".

Just stay away from these RTG Rogue casinos. These guys don't care about "putting off" high-rollers, they will suck the gambling addicts with their juicy 'bonuses'. It's all sweet until your money is in.. Once the money is deposited and you want your winnings, then it's another story. Avoid this casino at all costs.
 
I don't see why you have to ridicule Tomil for posting here. Nifty 26, is your grasp of English so fine that you need to put him down for not being up to your standards?

Actually facing criticism from customers is a big improvement for Shark Casino and could be a route to solving the problem this thread.
 
I don't see why you have to ridicule Tomil for posting here. Nifty 26, is your grasp of English so fine that you need to put him down for not being up to your standards?

Actually facing criticism from customers is a big improvement for Shark Casino and could be a route to solving the problem this thread.

Absolutely.

Criticizing the level of English is really irelevant here. We are not a newspaepr chasing this kind of gossip.

I also wonder about the complainer here. The casino should have been more effective. But For heaven's sake! youu are owed 12 grand and you cannot bother to login to see what is in yu0or account? You cannot enter a chat session? That sounds soooo stupid.
 
I also wonder about the complainer here. The casino should have been more effective. But For heaven's sake! youu are owed 12 grand and you cannot bother to login to see what is in yu0or account? You cannot enter a chat session? That sounds soooo stupid.

The original poster posted a reply on 2/20 go back and read it.
 
I saw it.

There is no agreement about the details of the story between the player and the casino.

I am not saying the casino is such a pure soul. I am just saying that the player may have not been smart enough to request a new $2,500 withdrawal from the cashier. Not sure what exactly happened there.
 
Thank you!

Thank you Acepedro45 and tester, I really appreciate your comments, just an update: the customer still haven't contact us nor request a withdrawal, I can assure you all that as soon as he request a payout will be process same day and believe me, I still don't know who this customer could be...
 
It is fairly obvious that their grasp of English isnt great, and whilst this is fine for social conversation, it is unacceptable when dealing with predominantly English-speaking clientele - nothing personal guys, its just business.

Just quoting myself here....

You will notice the part about NOTHING PERSONAL - I didnt say anything derogatory about the poster AT ALL. I was merely pointing out how it comes across to potential clients/players... and that is unprofessional. The poster may well not have meant to come across defensive and/or sarcastic, but because the English isnt good it might look that way.

Which is WHY casinos should be careful about who posts/participates in online forums and live chat - in fact, in all customer-facing departments. It may well be that they are doing themselves more harm than good.

I would have thought that any business, casino or otherwise, worth its salt would have PR people fluent in English on their staff, considering the majority of players would have English as their first language (or at least a very close second).

Acepedro - its got nothing to do with MY standards. Its about acceptable standards of customer service and most people would agree that dealing with staff who arent fluent in English is usually very frustrating. Its just business - supply and demand. Dont make it about anything personal as it isnt and you know it.
 
Point is that in the context of this thread, one can easily understand it as yet another attack on the casino. While those are two different levels of discussions. How a casino should optimally behave, and whether the specific customer is getting paid.

Again, once the guy form Shark is on board stating they will send the funds once the guy request a withdrawal, I cannot blame them. At least not now.
Maybe the client is not online for the last few days.
 
First, before I respond to this, I'd like to tell everyone who has helped me, thanks.

Note: This post is somewhat long, and fully discloses the state of affairs.

Hi, I'm the one who process Shark Casino payouts, just a question, since you're last payout have you requested a new withdrawal as an any regular customer do? no right? so how we're going to pay you?, another couple of questions, have you tried to call us or contact us via live chat? you can confirm with our customers that we're here helping all our customers 24/7, you're the only one who is not able to talk to us? I can assure that you haven't call us not even one time nor tried to chat with us, if you or any customer have a pending withdrawal we processed within days but if you don't sorry, we will wait until you do request it...

Thank you tomil for responding to my post. I hope we can solve this problem.

My last processed withdrawal occurred on October 16, 2006 via Neteller. Subsequent to that, I asked support why I could not withdrawal via Neteller, as that option, my preferred option as that is how I deposited, suddenly disappeared. I was then told I had to withdrawal via courier check, which is not what I would prefer and which carries a $25 fee. I went along with this however, requesting a withdrawal November 10th. My account on Shark also shows a second cashier's check withdrawal, on November 16th. (The second withdrawal shown is a mystery to me, as noted later.)

Of these two withdrawals, both of which cost me $25 in fees, I was only ever aware of one, and I was sent a tracking number (a week later, by phynqster, who is no longer with Shark, but whom I thank for his efforts). From this tracking number, FedEx told me the check was returned to sender around November 23rd (unsure of exact date), and I was never given a tracking number for the second check, sent only days after the first according to their online account system.

I'm unsure why the first check did not arrive successfully, I believe it was due to difficulties associated with getting into the apartment building. (FedEx uses a local company to deliver their packages here, and the local company seems to be incompetent--they never called me or left a note on my door before sending the package back.) In any case, phynqster told me at the time a new check would be sent out when the old check was returned (which FedEx's tracking system said occurred around November 23rd). Around mid-December I messaged phynqster, and he told me they still had not received the old check back.

Note that I never heard anything of the second check charged to my account, as it was a surprise to me when I checked my account. Also note that I never personally requested either of the non-Neteller withdrawals through their software. So, if they want me to request a withdrawal, let me state here: I formally request a withdrawal of all my money from your site. I will request withdrawals through your software personally if needed as soon as the two pending withdrawals have been paid.

So, anyhow, mid-December rolled around, and I was told they still had not received back the check from FedEx, but when they did, they would mail me a new one via Canada Post (I am Canadian, and they were sending the check from within Canada). Since this time, I have not received responses to any of my emails to any of their sharkcasino.com emails (such as manager@... and support@...), and the only communication I have received was a PM from phynqster informing me he was no longer with Shark.

As of this moment, I have $9477.00 listed as being in my account, with $5000 of withdrawals listed that were never delivered to me discounted from my account, and with $50 of fees on these withdrawals also discounted. I have not requested a withdrawal for the simple reason that there are already two maximum withdrawals already listed against my account which have yet to be paid.

If you need my email address or my user ID on your site timil, please PM me, and I will happily provide you this information. I do not wish to conduct this business over the phone, and my previous attempts to use your online chat system have proved fruitless. In fact, since this post was first made (the original post), the only way I have been able to contact anyone at Shark was through this site.

Thank you for your time everyone, and I hope this matter is able to be resolved soon.
 
all is true

Hey everybody

I am back after a long break

All I have to say about Shark is that they are crooks , and to Steve and Kevin .

Pay up!!!! ... I worked there shortly and if they dont even have the money to pay the employees .. the players dont stand a chance ..

BEWARE OF THIS SH*** CASINO!!
 
Hi Skunx

Are you saying you are owed wages from Shark??

If so, it speaks volumes about their business ethics - not to mention that it would explain why this whole saga is continuing to drag on.

One thing that I dont understand about the whole FEDEX check thing. Why wouldnt they just cancel/stop the check at their bank and re-issue another? Why do they have to receive it back from FEDEX first?? Did they not have enough funds to cover both checks???
 
Hey everybody

I am back after a long break

All I have to say about Shark is that they are crooks , and to Steve and Kevin .

Pay up!!!! ... I worked there shortly and if they dont even have the money to pay the employees .. the players dont stand a chance ..

BEWARE OF THIS SH*** CASINO!!

Hey Skunx,

Good to see ya back! You get my pm?

Good idea getting out of there. You weren't on the take?:)
 
I don't see why you have to ridicule Tomil for posting here. Nifty 26, is your grasp of English so fine that you need to put him down for not being up to your standards?

Actually facing criticism from customers is a big improvement for Shark Casino and could be a route to solving the problem this thread.

because he's ful of sh*t. he claims he didnt know the player or account #. hello....the only friggin guy owed $29,500! he requested his first withdrawl june 25 06 after a 5000 deposit. how hard is that to figure out? your sh*t casino puts the restictions on the payout amounts. the player shouldnt have to log in and individually request separate withdrawls. pay the guy.
 
Read the player's post and you will realize that it is not that simple to just issue a withdrawal.

Two withdrawal has already been approved at the casino. TYhe player has recieved none (at least taht is what he says).
Do you want the casino sending more checks just in order to say we sent checks?

Thyere should be some kind of arrangements made to make sure that everyhting works out nicely. I am not sure we can blame the casino in that case.
 
Not that simple? Sorry, for me its even simplier: I dont believe them.
CM has said anything that should be said about shark. Read his posts and you will know enough.
All Forum members should be banned from shark automatically :D
 
Read the player's post and you will realize that it is not that simple to just issue a withdrawal.

Two withdrawal has already been approved at the casino. TYhe player has recieved none (at least taht is what he says).
Do you want the casino sending more checks just in order to say we sent checks?

Thyere should be some kind of arrangements made to make sure that everyhting works out nicely. I am not sure we can blame the casino in that case.
two withdrawls approved? fantastic! its only been 9 months!
cant blame the casino? he's been waiting almost 9 months! send more checks? they dont send any! it should be simple to issue a withdrawl. he won. he wants his money. pay him. simple. how anyone can side with shark is beyond me. they are a joke.
 
YES .. THEY Still owe me my wages and I am not the only one.

I advice people to RUN not walk from Betus.com or Shark Casino.

They will do everything in their power not to pay people specially Steve , will find clauses to fu** U out of your winnings.

Virtual Ted if I were you I wouldnt come back to CR . I will be waiting for you

:mad:
 
Not that simple? Sorry, for me its even simplier: I dont believe them.

It turned out that what the accounting guy said here was true.
Read the full story the player told only now, and you will see that it is far from the non-payment we were told in the beginning.
A check was sent. The mailing in his area is bad, so he did not got it.
And there is not a good understanding between him and casino about how to work that out.

What started as clear and cut non-payment turned out to be some mailing mess-up.

CM has said anything that should be said about shark. Read his posts and you will know enough.

I read. The lack of communication form the side of the casino to CM was indeed bad. Here they are now offering to do everything to solve the problem.

Regarding CM disliking the name of the casino, I beg to differ.
Eventually, the casino name is not what should count is whether they are reliable.

two withdrawls approved? fantastic! its only been 9 months!
cant blame the casino? he's been waiting almost 9 months! send more checks? they dont send any! it should be simple to issue a withdrawl. he won. he wants his money. pay him. simple. how anyone can side with shark is beyond me. they are a joke.

Please read the whole story again.
He got paid some 14,000.
Now there was a mess-up with the mailings. He was not getting the check sent to him. And the whole argument is how the casino makes sure that they are not sending checks for free.
 
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One thing that I dont understand about the whole FEDEX check thing. Why wouldnt they just cancel/stop the check at their bank and re-issue another? Why do they have to receive it back from FEDEX first?? Did they not have enough funds to cover both checks???

It is not always that easy to cancle checks. Especially as one may guess that some checks are being done via third party companies.
 
It is not always that easy to cancle checks. Especially as one may guess that some checks are being done via third party companies.

I have no idea what your axe to grind with me or my case is, but you are misrepresenting the facts continuously in all of your posts.

Third-party company or not, it is possible to cancel a check in three months time. Third-party company or not, when a check is returned to your door by FedEx, you do not even need to cancel the check.
 
nicaragua,

First I do admit that the casino has not been treating you as they should have.

Second, you have made an unfair representation of the facts in your earlier post. Readers got the impression that the casino ignores your payment issue, while in fact it was a case Fedex not delivering checks to you, and you argue with the casino about the re-issuing of a check and whether the casino got the check back.

Third, I see it as an important issue that claims against a casino will be presented in a clear and detailed way. So that forum participants can make informed judgments about the dispute being discussed.
There are many levels of unfairness and incpompetence. I think the differences should be clear. You told us what exactly happened only after the casino guy came here on board. Which just does not help readers to feel secure about the small details that are actually the crox of the matter.

Have you tried to contact the casino recently?
 
nicaragua,

First I do admit that the casino has not been treating you as they should have.

Second, you have made an unfair representation of the facts in your earlier post. Readers got the impression that the casino ignores your payment issue, while in fact it was a case Fedex not delivering checks to you, and you argue with the casino about the re-issuing of a check and whether the casino got the check back.

"Shark still owes me $14,600 (they paid me $15,000 since my original post). I have not been paid by Shark since October. I have not been able to contact anyone at Shark since prior to Christmas."

I do not misrepresent anything in this statement. I have not received anything from Shark since October.

In November, this case was a case of FedEx not delivering a check to me. This is why I did not post an update in November noting that Shark was not paying me, and not communicating with me--because it was not true at that time. After three months, FedEx is no longer the problem. The case has certainly shifted to a non-payment case.

To assert that readers getting "the impression hat the casino ignores your payment issue" is somehow erroneous or misleading is incorrect. It is neither erroneous nor misleading, it is the truth.

I welcome the post from tomil, if he is who he claims to be, but that does not change the facts that months have passed by with all my emails going unanswered, and with my only contact as Shark, found through this forum because of my original post, leaving the company. If this is not a case of the company ignoring my payment issues, I'm unsure what is.

Third, I see it as an important issue that claims against a casino will be presented in a clear and detailed way. So that forum participants can make informed judgments about the dispute being discussed.
There are many levels of unfairness and incpompetence. I think the differences should be clear. You told us what exactly happened only after the casino guy came here on board. Which just does not help readers to feel secure about the small details that are actually the crox of the matter.

Have you tried to contact the casino recently?

I have emailed Shark within the past week. I have PM'd tomil. So, yes, I have tried contacting Shark.
 
This has to be one of the longest running and worst cases of non-payment and cynical customer insensitivity from a casino that I have seen in a decade in this business.

This unfortunate player has been trying to get paid since the middle of last year for God's sake and he is still being made to jump through hoops and resort to forum posts just to get the Shark people to respond to him.

He still hasn't been paid the full amount he is owed after all these stressful months.

Sorry, I cannot believe that a casino management with real and good and professional intentions has not yet found a way to sort out this appalling delay in a legitimate payment.

This one incident imo is a telling indictment of the lack of integrity and player care at this operation.

Players should never have to post this sort of experience, and as far as I am concerned there is no acceptable excuse for this disgraceful player treatment:

QUOTE: I welcome the post from tomil, if he is who he claims to be, but that does not change the facts that months have passed by with all my emails going unanswered, and with my only contact as Shark, found through this forum because of my original post, leaving the company. If this is not a case of the company ignoring my payment issues, I'm unsure what is. UNQUOTE
 
nicaragua,

First I do admit that the casino has not been treating you as they should have.

Second, you have made an unfair representation of the facts in your earlier post. Readers got the impression that the casino ignores your payment issue, while in fact it was a case Fedex not delivering checks to you, and you argue with the casino about the re-issuing of a check and whether the casino got the check back.

Third, I see it as an important issue that claims against a casino will be presented in a clear and detailed way. So that forum participants can make informed judgments about the dispute being discussed.
There are many levels of unfairness and incpompetence. I think the differences should be clear. You told us what exactly happened only after the casino guy came here on board. Which just does not help readers to feel secure about the small details that are actually the crox of the matter.

Have you tried to contact the casino recently?

it wasnt a fed ex issue until 5 months after his original request for his money. yes fed ex mad a mistake, months after he should have been paid already. god knows why you side with this garbage outfit. he won in june. june! he wants his money not excuses.
 
i agree you should already have your money .. i made a withdrawl from a casino by check and it was suposed to be delivered by fed ex and i waited about 10 days and i called the casino and they said they were sorry that i did not recive my check because it was sent out. well they were very nice and within a few days i had fed ex at my door with my check. i didnt have to wait for months . the casino just reisused me a a new one.
 
within a few days i had fed ex at my door with my check. i didnt have to wait for months . the casino just reisused me a a new one.

Well that shoots the 'we cant re-issue a new check we have to wait for the old one back' excuse down in flames. :rolleyes:

Maybe they should have tried something like 'our dog ate it' or 'the banks check printer was broken'........
 
OPEN YOUR EYES

These people didnt even pay their employees.

What makes you think they will be fair with the players .

Anybody doesnt agree with me on that .. sorry but I worked there you didnt.

:xxx
 
Update (And a positive one, at that!)

Okay, a few things have happened, positive ones, at that.

First, in the spirit of full disclosure, tomil has shown me, and I have verified, that as of the last post Shark actually only owed me $12,000, not $14,500 -- I had miscounted the number of withdrawals they had sent me (They had sent me $17,500, not $15,000).

Secondly, and more importantly, tomil is thus far a man of his word, and a shiny new $2,500 Neteller withdrawal greeted me this afternoon. :thumbsup:

Thirdly, Shark has credited the $2,500 check that never arrived here back into my account. (charging me a $10 fee for this, I believe, although the fee could be for my Neteller withdrawal, I'm not sure. But I'm not oing to whine about a measly $10 fee here.) This is also positive news, as that money had sat in limbo for three months.

So, as of right now, The balance in my Shark account pending withdrawal is down to $9,467.00. To date, I have been paid $20,000, and I am currently hopeful that this whole scenario may soon be successfully resolved.

Big thanks go out to jetset for all his work, Casinomeister for making this site, all the posters on here for hearing me out, and to tomil for responding here. :notworthy
 
These people didnt even pay their employees.

What makes you think they will be fair with the players .

Anybody doesnt agree with me on that .. sorry but I worked there you didnt.

:xxx

Well, I dont agree. I thought they dont pay the employees so that they could pay the players or vice versa. Oops! I think you are right though. They dont pay either party.
 

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