Rushmore - withdrawal delay

[footdr]

Folks, please chill out a bit. This is a perfectly reasonable discussion topic, no need to turn it into personal attacks.

Yes it is strange how many attacked me for posting my withdrawal updates but didn't do the same when others posted. Wonder why?

This thread was regarding withdrawal delays and for the most part it was comments between those waiting for withdrawals. However, other members not waiting for a withdrawal took it upon themselves to change the discussion to why "stupid" people like us would even play there to begin with. This is one reason I find this forum becoming more and more a negative experience, less helpful and too combative.

I am not saying that a member has a right to post any comment they want on a given thread, but when they have no "skin in the thread subject", perhaps they should limit their posts to useful, informative comments that help the players waiting for their withdrawal, not attack them.
It is a shame as it seems to be getting worse. Just my opinion.

 

[chuchu59]

By now I believe that most of us will realise that the warning from Max on this group is already very lenient. Whether an individual gets paid or not bears no relevance whatsoever to others getting paid so IMHO the information provided does not provide even the faintest of hope for those waiting. Every time that news emerges from this group eg change of processor, players are getting paid turns out to be false and I suspect its a ploy to let players believe its fine and dandy so they can deposit again. Let's face it, they have cashflow problems and no matter what they say those promoting them should be accountable. Believe them at your own risk.

I am sure posters who voice their disapproval on others' comments have a passion for the industry and dont want players being ripped off by these crooks.

 

[SlotsLover]

By now I believe that most of us will realise that the warning from Max on this group is already very lenient. Whether an individual gets paid or not bears no relevance whatsoever to others getting paid so IMHO the information provided does not provide even the faintest of hope for those waiting. Every time that news emerges from this group eg change of processor, players are getting paid turns out to be false and I suspect its a ploy to let players believe its fine and dandy so they can deposit again. Let's face it, they have cashflow problems and no matter what they say those promoting them should be accountable. Believe them at your own risk.

I am sure posters who voice their disapproval on others' comments have a passion for the industry and dont want players being ripped off by these crooks.

But Chuchu, if one were owed money, wouldn't the fact that someone else got paid from said casino be at least encouraging? I have a small withdrawal pending for many months from one of the rushmore casinos and am quite enthused that some people have been paying (although I realize this is far from a guarantee that I'll get mine, I find it much more encouraging than hearing that no one is getting paid). Of course, if it turns out that those claiming to be paid are fabricating their stories to promote play at said casino, that is a different story and those people should be banished from the forum. But until then, I'm going to take these posters at their word.

As a customer who has enjoyed Rushmore for many years, I sincerely hope they get their act together very quickly. I'm hopeful but this is far from an endorsement to others to play there at the current time.

 

[chuchu59]

But Chuchu, if one were owed money, wouldn't the fact that someone else got paid from said casino be at least encouraging? I have a small withdrawal pending for many months from one of the rushmore casinos and am quite enthused that some people have been paying (although I realize this is far from a guarantee that I'll get mine, I find it much more encouraging than hearing that no one is getting paid). Of course, if it turns out that those claiming to be paid are fabricating their stories to promote play at said casino, that is a different story and those people should be banished from the forum. But until then, I'm going to take these posters at their word.

As a customer who has enjoyed Rushmore for many years, I sincerely hope they get their act together very quickly. I'm hopeful but this is far from an endorsement to others to play there at the current time.

Normally my reply would be yes but for this group I noticed that there have been some instances of players reporting that they were paid which gave impetus to the belief that their problems were finally overcome and that players are being paid one by one. Time and again this never materialised and I suspect they are paying a small percentage of players who might voice out the fact that they were paid and thus lure others to think everything is well and that its safe to deposit again. They will then hope to get a fresh round of deposits to overcome their poor cashflow. I might be wrong but that's what I truly feel after read so many related posts these few months. I just hope those who do get paid not to be carried away as they deserve their winnings and should not fall into the casino's trap.

I had accounts at this group before when Louise was the rep here but things have taken a nosedive and I doubt they will change for the better anytime soon. They keep lying, one on top of the other with empty promises so just hoping wont be enough as its only a mirage.

 

[footdr]

But Chuchu, if one were owed money, wouldn't the fact that someone else got paid from said casino be at least encouraging? I have a small withdrawal pending for many months from one of the rushmore casinos and am quite enthused that some people have been paying (although I realize this is far from a guarantee that I'll get mine, I find it much more encouraging than hearing that no one is getting paid). Of course, if it turns out that those claiming to be paid are fabricating their stories to promote play at said casino, that is a different story and those people should be banished from the forum. But until then, I'm going to take these posters at their word.

As a customer who has enjoyed Rushmore for many years, I sincerely hope they get their act together very quickly. I'm hopeful but this is far from an endorsement to others to play there at the current time.

I doubt anyone that has been waiting months and has finally been paid recently is fabricating this. I finally got paid and posted that I got paid, but I won't be depositing at Rushmore again. There is no incentive for anyone to lie about being paid.It appears that slowly players are being paid, and, I don't think every player owed money by Rushmore posts here at CM; as I am sure that far more players than have commented here play and Rushmore and their sister casinos. So the fact that members who have commented on this thread are starting to be paid over the past 3 weeks is a good sign for those still waiting.

 

[footdr]

By now I believe that most of us will realise that the warning from Max on this group is already very lenient. Whether an individual gets paid or not bears no relevance whatsoever to others getting paid so IMHO the information provided does not provide even the faintest of hope for those waiting. Every time that news emerges from this group eg change of processor, players are getting paid turns out to be false and I suspect its a ploy to let players believe its fine and dandy so they can deposit again. Let's face it, they have cashflow problems and no matter what they say those promoting them should be accountable. Believe them at your own risk.

I am sure posters who voice their disapproval on others' comments have a passion for the industry and dont want players being ripped off by these crooks.

Nobody here is promoting them, and when a player posts they were finally paid, I believe them because I was finally paid as have others been recently per their posts. I have players PM me for information which I provided to assist them in contacting the cashier to put a fire under them.
Players are assisting other players to get paid. And, the fact that more players have been paid recently does provide hope for those still waiting.

 

[chuchu59]

Nobody here is promoting them, and when a player posts they were finally paid, I believe them because I was finally paid as have others been recently per their posts. I have players PM me for information which I provided to assist them in contacting the cashier to put a fire under them.
Players are assisting other players to get paid. And, the fact that more players have been paid recently does provide hope for those still waiting.

That is a sweeping statement to make and whether you like it or not my personal opinion is that people who continuously hint that their financial/processor problems may be solved are promoting them as it entices other players especially newbies to believe its safe to play there again. Sure, players should be vigilant but in a moment's weakness they might just succumb to the temptation and deposit tending to believe that they are guaranteed to be paid without problems. I would rather heed Max's warning. As for hope, this is something divine but when someone gets paid and then others are not its really a loose meaning of the word isnt it?

You are of course free to post your comments as you like but frankly this doesnt add any bit of hope to those waiting to get paid because they are not really paying out to the masses just picking an odd player to pay in the hope of getting some positive feedback in the forums.

 

[maxd]

Yes it is strange how many attacked me ....

I saw a number of unnecessary jabs at various people, that is what I was referring to. You're not the only one who has chosen to assume I was speaking about them personally. I was not, it was a general statement.

... perhaps they should limit their posts to useful, informative comments ....

When you become a moderator here, or anywhere else for that matter, I expect you will be able to set posting policy and enforce it. Until that time please leave the moderating to the moderators.

Forums are worthwhile when they offer a free exchange of ideas and insights, within reason and subject to the Forum Rules of course. Arbitrarily limiting those freedoms without compelling reasons is seldom constructive.

 

[SlotsLover]

That is a sweeping statement to make and whether you like it or not my personal opinion is that people who continuously hint that their financial/processor problems may be solved are promoting them as it entices other players especially newbies to believe its safe to play there again. Sure, players should be vigilant but in a moment's weakness they might just succumb to the temptation and deposit tending to believe that they are guaranteed to be paid without problems. I would rather heed Max's warning. As for hope, this is something divine but when someone gets paid and then others are not its really a loose meaning of the word isnt it?

You are of course free to post your comments as you like but frankly this doesnt add any bit of hope to those waiting to get paid because they are not really paying out to the masses just picking an odd player to pay in the hope of getting some positive feedback in the forums.

I don't think that being hopeful upon hearing that someone has gotten paid is inconsistent with heeding Max's warning or that a reasonable reading of the situation where some players are getting paid months after withdrawals is an enticement to play. The situation is clear as of now (in my opinion). Clearly, anyone reading this thread is depositing at their own risk. It's also that player's right to deposit and then report (not complain) about non payment if they so choose to (not that I am recommending them in the least).

I, for one, am hoping for the best and thrilled to hear every time a player gets paid. It may be overly optimistic, but I'm hoping that this group can return to their past ways, but they'll have to do quite a bit to regain our trust (and accreditation)

 

[Pinababy69]

People need to understand that these payment delays with Rushmore have been going on for years. It's not just this thread, or the last few months...it is literally years. They will clean up their act for a short time, and then wham...a few more threads re: delayed payments spring up. Even when they were still accredited here, they had these "delays" on occasion. A couple of times members had to ask Bryan to contact the casino to find out what was going on. I see they are still using the "processor problems" excuse. Simply amazing that other casinos that accept US players can seem to find processors that pay in a somewhat timely manner. And Inetbet manages to payout in under 24 hrs.....they must have the best processor in the business, lol.

I'm sorry, but anyone who even contemplates depositing at this place again, is only asking for trouble. Even if they manage to fly straight for three months or six months, I'll bet my last dollar that this will all happen again. This place obviously has major cashflow problems, or piss poor money management at the very least.

 

[nisosbar]

I note that the numerous members here who are of the "why even play there in the first place?" group are members who are uniformly from non-US jurisdictions who, as a result, have far more casino choices than Americans have.

And no, I do not currently play at any of the Rushmore casinos. Nor will I as long as they are rogued.

 

[Nifty29]

I note that the numerous members here who are of the "why even play there in the first place?" group are members who are uniformly from non-US jurisdictions who, as a result, have far more casino choices than Americans have.

And no, I do not currently play at any of the Rushmore casinos. Nor will I as long as they are rogued.

You may be right.

However, there are far more respectable RTG casinos, including accredited ones, to play at.....the reason some question the choice of Rushnotverymuchanymore is due to their chequered history and the hundreds of posts about payments delays over several years.

I hear the "we don't have the same choice as non-US members" line bandied about frequently to explain why US players patronize less reputable casinos......and, whilst the choice is more restricted, it is not so restricted that US players are in any way forced to take chances with them. If there were no accredited or well-respected operators accepting US players, then absolutely....I'll go along with the excuse.....but that is not the case and IMO the real reason is the tasty bonuses that some players just can't resist, which seem to cloud their judgement. I find it difficult to sympathize with these players.

 

[nisosbar]

Those are good points.

 

[Gret]

I no longer have a dog in this fight as my dog and I went home after we finally got our dough. It happened 2-3 times and I just stopped playing Rushmore and now my family and bartenders are all happier.

The Rushmore group obviously wants to be in the online casino business and they know if you don't pay your players, your play thru is going to decease which means they're going to make less money. Personally, I think they got whacked with some big losses and are managing cash flow as best as they can.

As a US player, I visit Club World and Silver Oak. The problem with Silver Oak is they take up to four/five weeks to pay out winnings...it is just the way they do things. As a Sturdy Oak, or whatever it is called, VIP, I get 200% bonuses every day of the year. We beat each other like rented mules at times, but I like the people and they aren't prone to give you nebulous statements such as processor issues or what ever. They pay and won't give you any BS.

At Club World, my expereince is a five day turnaround. Bonuses are meager.

I would guess that most players use Rushmore because of the attractive bonuses. There are other good alternatives for US players and if you do get your winnings from Rushmore, stay away because eventually you will be the last man standing and you will not be paid.

Hammering other posters isn't classy, especially those owed money.

 

[LHofsdal]

As a US player, I visit Club World and Silver Oak. The problem with Silver Oak is they take up to four/five weeks to pay out winnings...it is just the way they do things. As a Sturdy Oak, or whatever it is called, VIP, I get 200% bonuses every day of the year. We beat each other like rented mules at times, but I like the people and they aren't prone to give you nebulous statements such as processor issues or what ever. They pay and won't give you any BS.

What?

What happened with Rushmore group is so different from Silver Oak. Rushmore was accredited, and in very good standing. I think it has been years since Silver Oak was accredited and in good standing.

As for Silver Oak not giving out any BS, search this forum and alot others, you will see the BS they send out. Warning, before you start your search, you need to put on your boots.

LH

 

[Gret]

What?

What happened with Rushmore group is so different from Silver Oak. Rushmore was accredited, and in very good standing. I think it has been years since Silver Oak was accredited and in good standing.

As for Silver Oak not giving out any BS, search this forum and alot others, you will see the BS they send out. Warning, before you start your search, you need to put on your boots.

LH

Yup...I know all of this...but I've played them for over two years and not had an issue. The money arrives when they say it will. Much longer than I would like, but it shows up.

I played Rushmore because of the reviews and got burnt...

BTW, when was the last time something was posted about Silver Oak? I tried to find out with a search, but nothing came up recently...

 

[harrys99]

Yup...I know all of this...but I've played them for over two years and not had an issue. The money arrives when they say it will. Much longer than I would like, but it shows up.

I played Rushmore because of the reviews and got burnt...

BTW, when was the last time something was posted about Silver Oak? I tried to find out with a search, but nothing came up recently...

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/silver-oak-casino.47519/

 

[Gret]

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/silver-oak-casino.47519/

Thanks..don't know why I couldn't find it.

I read the thread starter's issue and don't see their point. You can't deposit consecutive free chips, which I think most casinos have as a rule.

Also read the comments and it appears that anybody that doesn't play at an "accredited" casino is straight out dog dung and really really stupid according to several serial posters who appear to be paid shills (and I don't mean by casinomeister).

My experience has been different. Kinda sorry I even brought it up.

 

[Tirilej]

Thanks..don't know why I couldn't find it.

I read the thread starter's issue and don't see their point. You can't deposit consecutive free chips, which I think most casinos have as a rule.

Also read the comments and it appears that anybody that doesn't play at an "accredited" casino is straight out dog dung and really really stupid according to several serial posters who appear to be paid shills (and I don't mean by casinomeister).

My experience has been different. Kinda sorry I even brought it up.

I believe that if you had read all of the other thread, with an open mind, then maybe you would have understand.
To call members that has been here helping other members paid shills, that is totally out of line and disappointing, since you don't seems to be stupid.

Where are you when members coming here for advice or help when they don't get paid?

 

[Nifty29]

What?

What happened with Rushmore group is so different from Silver Oak. Rushmore was accredited, and in very good standing. I think it has been years since Silver Oak was accredited and in good standing.

As for Silver Oak not giving out any BS, search this forum and alot others, you will see the BS they send out. Warning, before you start your search, you need to put on your boots.

LH

Don't waste your time on this one.

Some have the "I don't care if they rip others off as long as they pay me" attitude and it isn't going to change. It's their perogative of course, but it goes a fair way towards explaining why rogues stay in business. The same people will also be the first to squawk when they have an issue.....but hey, what do we know right? We're just paid shills

 

[Seventh777]

Also read the comments and it appears that anybody that doesn't play at an "accredited" casino is straight out dog dung and really really stupid according to several serial posters who appear to be paid shills (and I don't mean by casinomeister).

Who has posted here with a no payment related thread/post, that broke no rules or committed fraud at an accredited casino?, then ask yourself why they would need to pay shills to recommend them when their overall work ethics and protocols is enough to ensure a good influx of players, your logic is so flawed it`s laughable, if there were shills here they would be endorsing none accredited and rogued casinos.

 

[Gret]

Looks like I struck too close to home for some.

It seems that every time someone has a problem with any casino, the same individuals come on and monopolize the board with their drool inferring that they are much wiser than the rest of us and they would have never have fallen into the situation. We get it...you're great...you've told us!

Instead of spending all you time posting, do what real men do...get a job...make money...drink gin...chase girls...and gamble a bit...you will be a more interesting person and have more friends. (I don't know what ladies should do.)

I posted a very non-controversial message about my experiences with Rushmore and a couple of other casinos...and then bang! I'm a friggen idiot because I played at one that wasn't "approved" and it will encourage less intelligent players to go lose their dough at this particular casino.

Countdown to more nonsense from the goody two shoes...5...4...3...2...1

 

[Seventh777]

Looks like I struck too close to home for some.

Yep, you nailed it with the highly original alternative views to mine they must be shills approach .

It seems that every time someone has a problem with any casino, the same individuals come on and monopolize the board with their drool inferring that they are much wiser than the rest of us and they would have never have fallen into the situation. We get it...you're great...you've told us!

I`m going to stick my head on the line here and state that anyone parting with their hard earned, prior to not at least googling any aforementioned casino, are indeed, not very wise.

Instead of spending all you time posting, do what real men do...get a job...make money...drink gin...chase girls...and gamble a bit...you will be a more interesting person and have more friends. (I don't know what ladies should do.)

And what would real men like you have to gripe about in your spare time of being a hard drinking stud muffin?.

I posted a very non-controversial message about my experiences with Rushmore and a couple of other casinos...and then bang! I'm a friggen idiot because I played at one that wasn't "approved" and it will encourage less intelligent players to go lose their dough at this particular casino.

Who called you a friggen idiot?.

Countdown to more nonsense from the goody two shoes...5...4...3...2...1

Wow, a perfect shillism Straw-man response, nothing like a rhetorical throw down to get ya thinking that well done i`ve won the internet, when someone responds to your drivel, hey? .

 

[Gret]

Sorry...I don't have the time to respond in depth...it is cocktail hour here and I have to walk across the street to Blue Martini.

 

[chuchu59]

Don't waste your time on this one.

Some have the "I don't care if they rip others off as long as they pay me" attitude and it isn't going to change. It's their perogative of course, but it goes a fair way towards explaining why rogues stay in business. The same people will also be the first to squawk when they have an issue.....but hey, what do we know right? We're just paid shills

Hey Nifty,

Let's compare our cheques from the casinos seeing we are paid shills. I receive them in Hong Kong Dollars (around 8 K per month.)

 

[sephus22]

Just got paid from 12/12 and 12/21.after at least 100 unanswered emails and a different BS story everytime i called in.they couldnt even give me a courtesy reply one time until they REALLY sent it to the processor.F***CK RUSHMORE.Ill burn my money before i ever deposit there again.

 

[chuchu59]

Just got paid from 12/12 and 12/21.after at least 100 unanswered emails and a different BS story everytime i called in.they couldnt even give me a courtesy reply one time until they REALLY sent it to the processor.F***CK RUSHMORE.Ill burn my money before i ever deposit there again.

I really appreciate this. If a player is finally paid after months of being given the runaround share with us what he has been through to serve as a warning to others as to how hard it will be to get your money.

 

[footdr]

I really appreciate this. If a player is finally paid after months of being given the runaround share with us what he has been through to serve as a warning to others as to how hard it will be to get your money.

Thanks for finally understanding why those of us that were finally paid posted and why we posted with the updates we received. Not one person so far has promoted this casino group or urged anyone to deposit at any of their casinos.

 

[footdr]

Don't waste your time on this one.

Some have the "I don't care if they rip others off as long as they pay me" attitude and it isn't going to change. It's their perogative of course, but it goes a fair way towards explaining why rogues stay in business. The same people will also be the first to squawk when they have an issue.....but hey, what do we know right? We're just paid shills

Can you please quote a post in this thread that exhibits the "I don't care if they rip others off as long as they pay me" attitude that you speak of?
Because I only see people commenting on not being paid, updates from the casino on their withdrawal and posting when they were finally paid.

And I also didn't see people "squawking", rather I read posts regarding waiting for payment and other comments I listed above. I also have received pm's from those in the same boat asking for information that might help them to get their payment expedited. Many of us had been vip's for many years and have experienced infrequent delay issues when it came to payouts. Things have now become worse and I think we all have made that very clear. I also think we have all made it very clear that players should not deposit with the Rushmore Group.

You are right, don't waste your time.

 

[chuchu59]

Thanks for finally understanding why those of us that were finally paid posted and why we posted with the updates we received. Not one person so far has promoted this casino group or urged anyone to deposit at any of their casinos.

Not really so. There are some posters who are keen to release all info given by this group eg new processor, cheques being sent out in batches etc. implying things were finally solved when obviously they werent. Many are over the moon just getting paid and seemed to have forgotten the agony they encountered whilst waiting. Sephus22 did mention he got paid but emphasised he went through quite an ordeal in the past 3 months and this serves as a warning to others as to what to expect from this group.

 

[footdr]

Not really so. There are some posters who are keen to release all info given by this group eg new processor, cheques being sent out in batches etc. implying things were finally solved when obviously they werent. Many are over the moon just getting paid and seemed to have forgotten the agony they encountered whilst waiting. Sephus22 did mention he got paid but emphasised he went through quite an ordeal in the past 3 months and this serves as a warning to others as to what to expect from this group.

Again, I ask you quote one post that implied things were finally solved? Simply not true, everyone that was paid said they wouldn't be depositing again unless the casino cleaned up their act(to paraphrase). I have read no comment where anyone was "over the moon" for getting paid, just glad they were finally paid.

All including Sephus22 had posted their ordeal along the way to finally getting paid if they were paid yet. You need to stop making it anything more than players posting their "ordeal" with Rushmore and getting paid. If anyone reads this thread and thinks it is a good idea to deposit at any of their casinos, they simply don't understand english. We have all said, "don't deposit there". Why do you keep commenting to the contrarary? Enough already

 

[maxd]

... We have all said, "don't deposit there". Why do you keep commenting to the contrarary? Enough already

I have told you before, and quite recently, it is not your place to tell others what they should or should not be posting here. That is a moderator's job and you are not a moderator. Chu is free to comment as he sees fit. If you disagree with what he has to say then by all means say so but that's where it stops. I trust it won't be necessary to say this again. Please and thank you for your cooperation.

 

[chuchu59]

Again, I ask you quote one post that implied things were finally solved? Simply not true, everyone that was paid said they wouldn't be depositing again unless the casino cleaned up their act(to paraphrase). I have read no comment where anyone was "over the moon" for getting paid, just glad they were finally paid.

All including Sephus22 had posted their ordeal along the way to finally getting paid if they were paid yet. You need to stop making it anything more than players posting their "ordeal" with Rushmore and getting paid. If anyone reads this thread and thinks it is a good idea to deposit at any of their casinos, they simply don't understand english. We have all said, "don't deposit there". Why do you keep commenting to the contrarary? Enough already

You tried to distort what I said in post #327 and when I tried to correct you, all you do is asking me to shut up and not comment on what I personally feel is immorality on the part of individual posters. If you really want the gloves to be off I am up to the challenge though I am sure most posters wont want to witness that. I am near the end of a hectic working day and just submitted a lengthy account of another 'ordeal' but I guess I still have enough petrol in the tank to fend off your attacks.

 

[footdr]

I have told you before, and quite recently, it is not your place to tell others what they should or should not be posting here. That is a moderator's job and you are not a moderator. Chu is free to comment as he sees fit. If you disagree with what he has to say then by all means say so but that's where it stops. I trust it won't be necessary to say this again. Please and thank you for your cooperation.

So I guess you also think it should stop there for Chu. I am responding to his comments but he doesn't stop. I am done with this thread as it no longer has anything to do with the subject. And, I am not the only one who is tired of him twisting members comments. Look at those who have thanked me and agreed with me. Not to mention members who have pm'd me asking for my help and also disgruntled by members attacking the fact they played at Rushmore when they arent waiting for payment. I just don't get why you allow others to continue to disagree and then call others of us out for replying to their inaccurate comments.

Can you explain?


And. I never told him to shut up but to quote one post that supported his position.
I am a member here to get assistance and help others when I can. Some members seem to be here to only disagree with what other members have to say and aren't even providing information relivent to the thread. When they they quote me I feel I have a right to respond.

I have told you before, and quite recently, it is not your place to tell others what they should or should not be posting here. That is a moderator's job and you are not a moderator. Chu is free to comment as he sees fit. If you disagree with what he has to say then by all means say so but that's where it stops. I trust it won't be necessary to say this again. Please and thank you for your cooperation.

I just don't understand what you mean. I never said that he shouldn't be posting but only questioned the validity in what he posted and responded to his comment as he responded to mine. What is the difference between him commenting on what others said and us commenting on what he says?
the point is that nobody that is waiting for payment or finally been paid has promoted Rushmore and actually all have indicated they wouldn't be deposited again, many including me urged people not to deposit. So what Chu said was inaccurate and misleading.

 

[maxd]

... So what Chu said was inaccurate and misleading.

Fine! Then say that instead of telling him not to post, or whatever. For details see my response to your PM.

 

[Temperance Fox]

Really hope Rushmore has become like time ago.

Are there any problem of slow paying? I ask cause I won quite good there after a long time I didn't play

Thanks for any answer

 

[Surasanji]

coincidence

Really hope Rushmore has become like time ago.

Are there any problem of slow paying? I ask cause I won quite good there after a long time I didn't play

Thanks for any answer

I'd give it another two or three months before I would go back to such a place.

Give the Rushmore group that time to prove that they are paying people in a timely and consistent manner you risk your money there.

The gamble should be on the games- not on being paid in a timely fashion (or at all.)

That's just my advice though.

 

[Nifty29]

Really hope Rushmore has become like time ago.

Are there any problem of slow paying? I ask cause I won quite good there after a long time I didn't play

Thanks for any answer

Please, read as much of the thread as you can.

You will then be able to answer your own question.

 

[chuchu59]

Really hope Rushmore has become like time ago.

Are there any problem of slow paying? I ask cause I won quite good there after a long time I didn't play

Thanks for any answer

They have been slow paying for months if not years and have recently been pursuing a policy of paying out selectively. My guess is that they want some people to trumpet out the news that they were paid thus projecting an image that they will pay after all. If an outfit consistently delays payments and pay players at random this only means 1 thing - they are underfunded and one must not be under illusions that financial problems are finally solved and its safe to play there. I would rather think its better to be cautious and prepare for the worst-case scenario ie they will close shop.

 

[footdr]

Yes

Really hope Rushmore has become like time ago.

Are there any problem of slow paying? I ask cause I won quite good there after a long time I didn't play

Thanks for any answer

It took nearly three months for me to get paid. All the posts on this thread confirm some players still waiting for payment on December 2011 withdrawals.

 

[footdr]

They have been slow paying for months if not years and have recently been pursuing a policy of paying out selectively. My guess is that they want some people to trumpet out the news that they were paid thus projecting an image that they will pay after all. If an outfit consistently delays payments and pay players at random this only means 1 thing - they are underfunded and one must not be under illusions that financial problems are finally solved and its safe to play there. I would rather think its better to be cautious and prepare for the worst-case scenario ie they will close shop.

Honestly, I believe they are attempting to first pay VIP players who have been vip the longest, consistantly deposit and with long history with their casino group; and secondly vips that have been waiting for their December and January withdrawals. IMO what I was told by the VIP rep was true, he confirms what I stated in the previous sentence. They are slowing paying. How long that will last I do not know. IMO that aren't paying some players to "trumpet" good news. Also, when it takes months to finally be paid, it would be stupid to think just because someone is a VIP they would even consider depositing again. I haven't deposited since being paid and have no intention of depositing.

You may be right about them be underfunded as players that are aware of the withdrawal delays are likely not depositing anymore and I am sure this is having a negative effect on their cash flow.

 

[chuchu59]

Honestly, I believe they are attempting to first pay VIP players who have been vip the longest, consistantly deposit and with long history with their casino group; and secondly vips that have been waiting for their December and January withdrawals. IMO what I was told by the VIP rep was true, he confirms what I stated in the previous sentence. They are slowing paying. How long that will last I do not know. IMO that aren't paying some players to "trumpet" good news. Also, when it takes months to finally be paid, it would be stupid to think just because someone is a VIP they would even consider depositing again. I haven't deposited since being paid and have no intention of depositing.

You may be right about them be underfunded as players that are aware of the withdrawal delays are likely not depositing anymore and I am sure this is having a negative effect on their cash flow.

If what you are saying is true then those who are pondering whether or not to deposit have a ready made answer. They are certainly not VIPs if they had deposited only sparsely before unless a VIP is loosely defined as such and should they deposit they will only get paid after all others. Talk about being regarded as a second or third-class player! So the answer is dont deposit or you get screwed. Might as well say Deposit during Easter and get paid by Santa, no I mean Christmas with no guarantee it will be this year though.

 

[Diane]

FWIW,They sent me an email with a free chip to enduce me to return. (Former VIP Presidential level member)

I played the free chip and won.

Requested w/d today with an additional email to my VIP Manager letting him know that I am most interested in seeing how this process works at this point in time. He knows I will not deposit until they are safely back on track.

Will track how the free chip w/d process goes and report back to the CM group.

Do NOT put in your own money ---- too many slow pay issues well documented here. But interested to see how this goes.

Diane

 

[Tirilej]

FWIW,They sent me an email with a free chip to enduce me to return. (Former VIP Presidential level member)

I played the free chip and won.

Requested w/d today with an additional email to my VIP Manager letting him know that I am most interested in seeing how this process works at this point in time. He knows I will not deposit until they are safely back on track.

Will track how the free chip w/d process goes and report back to the CM group.

Do NOT put in your own money ---- too many slow pay issues well documented here. But interested to see how this goes.

Diane

I suppose you will pass everyone else that are still waiting. That would be a smart move by them, but I do have faith in people believing they will know the reason you got paid fast

 

[chuchu59]

FWIW,They sent me an email with a free chip to enduce me to return. (Former VIP Presidential level member)

I played the free chip and won.

Requested w/d today with an additional email to my VIP Manager letting him know that I am most interested in seeing how this process works at this point in time. He knows I will not deposit until they are safely back on track.

Will track how the free chip w/d process goes and report back to the CM group.

Do NOT put in your own money ---- too many slow pay issues well documented here. But interested to see how this goes.

Diane

Diane,

I dont want to know whether to hope you will be paid quickly or not. As a contributing member here of course I hope you get paid. But if the theory of VIP players being paid first is correct you will be paid from a free chip earlier than others with a lower VIP level and that is not right because they may well be inducing lots of VIP players to return and deposit and then pay them first. Where does that leave other players? Sorry about this stance Diane.

 

[rtgkiller]

Diane,

I dont want to know whether to hope you will be paid quickly or not. As a contributing member here of course I hope you get paid. But if the theory of VIP players being paid first is correct you will be paid from a free chip earlier than others with a lower VIP level and that is not right because they may well be inducing lots of VIP players to return and deposit and then pay them first. Where does that leave other players? Sorry about this stance Diane.

Or maybe trying to get their VIP's to deposit large amounts. So they can payout their remaining unpaid players.

 

[Diane]

Diane,

I dont want to know whether to hope you will be paid quickly or not. As a contributing member here of course I hope you get paid. But if the theory of VIP players being paid first is correct you will be paid from a free chip earlier than others with a lower VIP level and that is not right because they may well be inducing lots of VIP players to return and deposit and then pay them first. Where does that leave other players? Sorry about this stance Diane.

Chu -

I understand where you are coming from. I hope I am not "jumping the line" and that my payment (if it comes) doesn't mean that someone else has to wait.

Just thought I would add my tracking info. VIP manager told me when he gave me the free chip that their times for w/d are much improved. Instead of it being 4-5 WEEKS, it is now "mostly 10-14 days". But now I will see for myself.

Diane

 

[vinylweatherman]

Chu -

I understand where you are coming from. I hope I am not "jumping the line" and that my payment (if it comes) doesn't mean that someone else has to wait.

Just thought I would add my tracking info. VIP manager told me when he gave me the free chip that their times for w/d are much improved. Instead of it being 4-5 WEEKS, it is now "mostly 10-14 days". But now I will see for myself.

Diane

Which 14 days

March 30th
April 1st
April 24th
....... etc

They have consistently promised a timeframe, and then failed to deliver.

They have occasional bursts of things being back to normal, but then it's back to the same old processor problems.

Their last spurt of normal service on payouts lasted a week or two, and followed a VIP player being told that a new processor had been found, and the backlog was almost gone. It seems this new processor didn't hang around for long, because it's back to all the delays.

If they ARE selectively paying players who they think are most likely to trumpet the fact in the forums and get other to start depositing, then those still awaiting payment could use this to their advantage by convincing the casino that their particular pain is being shared with a large internet audience of potential depositors, who are waiting for things to appear normal again before they start depositing again. If enough players do this, it will be harder for them to selectively pay the right people, and the truth behind the excuses is more likely to be revealed.

Anyone depositing now is going to be at the end of the queue, and first in line for pain should the queue be closed and the casino to fold. There is NO player protection in place should this happen even in a well respected licensing jurisdiction, so it is sure to be absent with an RTG casino typically licensed in places like Costa Rica, Panama, and Curacao.

 

[footdr]

Diane,

I dont want to know whether to hope you will be paid quickly or not. As a contributing member here of course I hope you get paid. But if the theory of VIP players being paid first is correct you will be paid from a free chip earlier than others with a lower VIP level and that is not right because they may well be inducing lots of VIP players to return and deposit and then pay them first. Where does that leave other players? Sorry about this stance Diane.

What I was told was that the VIP players that had made withdrawals in December 2011(the ones that were from their previous processor, that they claim were "missing" and they were waiting for an update from the processor) would be paid first by the new processor. They have already been paying players with later withdrawal dates as per posts in this thread. The real question should be if everyone waiting for December withdrawals that were sent to the previous processor have now been paid. It would be good if players that had December withdrawals could update us on the status i.e. whether they have received payment yet.

It is entirely possible diane will be paid in the normal processing time. It is the old withdrawals that were submitted through the old processor that they may still be behind on, per the VIP rep I spoke with.

p.s. I am not sure how casinos accomplish this but Rushmore's policy has always been the VIP players would recieve priority payout. Again, IMO they aren't paying players they think will "trumpet" on their behalf. If they are, their ploy has obviously not been successful, as nobody has trumpeted good things on their behalf.

 

[footdr]

FWIW,They sent me an email with a free chip to enduce me to return. (Former VIP Presidential level member)

I played the free chip and won.

Requested w/d today with an additional email to my VIP Manager letting him know that I am most interested in seeing how this process works at this point in time. He knows I will not deposit until they are safely back on track.

Will track how the free chip w/d process goes and report back to the CM group.

Do NOT put in your own money ---- too many slow pay issues well documented here. But interested to see how this goes.

Diane

Congrats on your win, let us know how the payout goes.

Also please read my other comments today on this thread.