Roulette69 issue - PAB rejected - player upset

[Webzcas]

At post 131 you sate, ""...No one said he had multiple accounts - he is connected to other accounts,.."


Which statement represents the truth? You are the one pointing the accusing finger of fraud and lying. Did he have a second account or not?

We do get it. We get it a lot better than what you think.

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So you missed the opening post then? Whereby the poster used his 'friends' account to start this thread?

Jeez

 

[pangloss]

He HAS been proven to be a liar and a cheat - what better definition of fraudster do you want?? Proof HAS been presented to Max and Bryan, .

CM doesn't know whether the basis of the fraud is (see my post above):

1. multiple accounts and/or
2. connected to other accounts
3. neither 1 or 2

How can even YOU be satisfied that anything resembling the dictionary meaning of proof has been approached in this case? Multiple accounts - no multiple accounts. Changing all the time.

Why not let the OP state his own case in this fora in response to the so called proof leveled at him? Just too inconvenient or are we frightened to rattle the cage lest the truth just might escape.

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[pangloss]

So you missed the opening post then? Whereby the poster used his 'friends' account to start this thread?

Jeez

Get off the grass Webzcas - you know damn well the reference was made to casino accounts. Opening multiple forum accounts = fraud? Get back on your medication.

Troll? Is that your best defense? Is that your best response? You got nothing left in the bag. Firing on all blanks methinks.

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[The Dude]

Admin warning: Don't dis the moderators

Get off the grass Webzcas - you know damn well the reference was made to casino accounts. Opening multiple forum accounts = fraud? Get back on your medication.

Troll? Is that your best defense? Is that your best response? You got nothing left in the bag. Firing on all blanks methinks.

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Just an admin warning - don't dis the moderators or you'll find yourself kicked to the curb.

 

[Webzcas]

Get off the grass Webzcas - you know damn well the reference was made to casino accounts. Opening multiple forum accounts = fraud? Get back on your medication.

Troll? Is that your best defense? Is that your best response? You got nothing left in the bag. Firing on all blanks methinks.

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Hmm sorry but based on the post you reference which states this:

For one thing, if a person submits a PAB, and it is determined that player fraud was involved - it's shit-canned and the member's account is closed - permanently. No one said he had multiple accounts - he is connected to other accounts

I have boldened the important part. You then stated this:

It's multiple accounts - it's not multiple accounts- now it's back to multiple accounts.

Bottom line panglos. This thread has taken up too much of everyone's time. The information provided by the player and the casino to Bryan and Max has been looked at and they have reached a decision in ruling in favour of the casino.

As Max has pointed out, that information is private and is not for public consumption.

It doesn't matter what picture you try and subsequently paint. They have come to their decision based on years of experience in dealing with pitch a bitches.

 

[pangloss]

Just an admin warning - don't dis the moderators or you'll find yourself kicked to the curb.

Yep fair enough. I see Webzcas has taken the troll thingo down now so okay - I withdraw my slanging asides.

I've been allowed to have my say and I see the thread and comments have been left in tack for the time being. So kudos for that. I'm outta here - whilst I could say "I hope" it's get sorted I just really can't see how it can be without a major reversal from the casino in question.

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[The Dude]

CM doesn't know whether the basis of the fraud is (see my post above):...

Why not let the OP state his own case in this fora in response to the so called proof leveled at him? Just too inconvenient or are we frightened to rattle the cage lest the truth just might escape.

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The player had several hours of postings (he is the OP in the thread BTW in case you haven't read it) and he had PLENTY of time to justify his issue. He can't and he won't. Why? Because he probably doesn't know where he screwed up. And you play right into this... Pretty damn funny if you ask me.

Now take your ball and go play somewhere else.

 

[silcnlayc]

Its only going to continue when another situation like this comes again. Its gonna come. Infact I had the same thing happen to me

But did you lie to be paid?

Bottom line panglos. This thread has taken up too much of everyone's time.

I agree.

pangloss:Yeah - run for the hills now because we getting closer to the truth.

Who's truth??

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[pangloss]

The player had several hours of postings (he is the OP in the thread BTW in case you haven't read it) and he had PLENTY of time to justify his issue. He can't and he won't. Why? Because he probably doesn't know where he screwed up. And you play right into this... Pretty damn funny if you ask me.

Now take your ball and go play somewhere else.

What issue?

Multiple accounts - connected to other accounts - connected to other illicit accounts?

What did the fraud constitute? What was the casino deprived of?

He can not possible "justify his issue" if the nature of the allegations are not made known and explicit.

Do you not see the logic in all of this? 16 pages of thread and still the questions above have yet to be addressed. Astonishing performance.

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[kakata]

If I may.
I would have not banned the OP just yet, to see what he had to say in his defense after being "uncovered"......
Just my 6 cents....that's all Ive left

I said "just yet".
Im sure that Bryan/Max did what they had to.
Why I know? Cause if they would only listen to what Casinos have to say....no PAB would have been ever won, no one.
I thought.....let the OP back in and he will probably condemn him self.
With all the member questions and investigating skills many of the members have,Im sure that he would surely fell in a mistake and prove himself guilty of whatever fraud he has committed.( my english didnt get any better ...I know)

 

[uungy]

If I remember correctly, this is what happened with Unngy's situation with Wocafai casino. He was connected to tristan727 - which after further looking into we decided to give him the benefit of the doubt (I think this was before Max's time)

Thats got to make me laugh

There was no benefit of doubt there, I proved who I was, tristan727 proved who s/he was, and they had nothing to base themselves on, as it was absolute *@#?!

 

[chuchu59]

Very true Kakata. As for the OP, correct me if I am wrong, he could still pm CM if he still has facts to back up his case.

As recently as the Rushmore case where a player got back his money in a dormant account Bryan is always willing to listen and could reverse his thinking. We can give our views but c'mon guys it's Bryan's word against the OP who is a very dodgy character. Who would you believe?

 

[jetset]

Pangloss, your historical tendency to act the troll is becoming more pronounced as this tedious thread lumbers onward, but I suggest you revisit and if possible reword your post #146 which is sailing very close to the wind with the innuendo expressed in the last four sentences.

Regarding old issues - there are at least two others offered gratuitiously and apparently designed to resurrect old and still smarting issues with those concerned.

And as far as fraud is concerned, to my thinking the fraudster here misrepresented or omitted facts to gain an advantage that was not due - that was fraud imo perpetrated through the PAB system.

What he got up to at Roulette69 I have no idea, but I have seen the integrity of Bryan and Max proved over and over again and their word is good enough for me.

If it's not good enough for you, then perhaps instead of wasting time here you should get involved directly with the fraudster and see if you can do any better?

 

[kauphy]

'Little johnny' the online casino chump, dies and arrives at the pearly gates of Heaven where St Peter is reading from the book of PAB judgments.

Little johnny - "I been good, I been really good. Played and played each week and I put my dues in like you said."

St Peter (roared) - "Huh. Good? You been NO good."

Little johnny - "aweee cor what you mean St Peter? What you got there on me?"

St Peter - "You insolent little smuck. I'm telling you been no good. You are a SINNER."

Little johnny - "For what have I sinned St Peter?"

St Peter - "You bleeding little blighter. I'm not telling what your SINS are. You have SINNED. That's enough."

Little johnny - "Okay. I have SINNED. Can I ask please, what were my SINS? Did I steal, cheat, trick, kill, rape , rob? Or maybe I played at an unaccredited online casino. Pray tell me."

St Peter - "How dare you ask such impertinence. It's in the PAB book - it's written by you know who. He is the infallible one. He who can do no wrong."

Little johnny - "Yes but why just you can't tell me what I did wrong - how can I say or deny those things if i don't know what they even are?"

St Peter - "You are the rudest SINNER I have ever come across. Off to the pit of fire. Banned for life along with that mischief making mouth."

Little johnny is banished to Hell like all troublemakers (aka those who dare ask questions).

St Peter dispatches email to the omnipotent one,

"All's well. Everyone is well pleased, especially our best customers."

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o.k this started out funny and then got down right rude. the guy was told what he did wrong and he had the chance to make it right but he eather could,nt or would,nt. and cm and max r right if the player did nothing wrong then if it was me i would get ahold of them by pm and make my case there and i would fight fight fight until i proved what i need to prove to get my money if i was in the right. most people would do what they had to do before bring it to the people of this from. i know max and cm have made mistake before but come on people they r only humans they do the best they can and when they find they have made a mistake they do whatever they have to to make it right. i for one have never had to use the pab and hope i never have too. but gezzzzzz if this keeps up there won,t be a pab for me to use if i need it.

 

[ksech]

Just my opinion...
1) This is Bryan's site, he moderates it in a manner of helping both sides when needs be, using what means he has available. In this instance, Max, who appears to be taking a lot of heat for doing a job, that I am SURE about 1% of the members on this forum, would volunteer to tackle.
2) We do NOT pay them for going to bat for us when we need an unbiased person to help us straighten things out.
3) This is Bryan's site, he is the LAW. The rules are posted all over the site, in terms stated that even the most uninformed layman can understand.
4) We don't pay Bryan and his staff for endless hours of filtering out trolls/spammers/and outright rude people.

And lastly...
Be an adult, act like an adult. Silcnlayc is right, this thread needs to be closed. These last few pages have turned into a Hatfield/McCoy feud. Remember, words spoken/written can not be retracted.

CM/Max/Simmo/Webcaz? Thank you for all you do, this poster greatly appreciates the time and effort you put into this site!

 

[mclee321]

People, you have to take a leap of faith here.

You have the Casinomeister website, the only player advocate site I'm aware of. This site and the hard working staff have a legitimate history of listening to the whole story.

You have the OP stating a case which sounds legitimate, but we don't know the details. Always remember the details.

Given the history and ethos of Casinomeister are you willing to trust a shouty, pissed off poster?

We are not going to find out the gory details, either trust this site as a legitimate player advocate or give the site up as lost. I'm not saying decisions should not be questioned, but we have been informed evidence has been presented and the site has come down in favour of the casino. Why should we be privy to a private matter?

You think Bryan and Max are going to tilt a decision towards a Casino out of some kind of agreement with the Casino? Despite the fact they clearly don't seem like that kind of outfit, the moment something like that was discovered the whole site and concept would be dead.

 

[NASHVEGAS]

There is no other way to say it....if you wont take Bryans' word for it, then you're calling his integrity into question.

Simply not true......Is this a CULT or people you never even laid eyes on just posting the 100% truth on the internet.????........Seems like a CULT to me or has many characteristics of CULT like behavior .

A general question and not directed at any parties' integrity, only the premise!!.....A lot of good deals on the Net for penis enlargers.

 

[jod5413]

Is the frickin' horse dead yet????? HELL YES!!! This horse has been thoroughly beaten to death! Move on, don't gawk, there's nothing else to see here, people!

Some of you folks need to get a job or take up a hobby. Going round and round and asking the same questions over and over again, acting like you are so articulate and clever, dissing this one and that one, some of you are definitely trying to goad Bryan and Max. Get real, people!! Jeez Louise!!





Nash, it's only funny if I understand it, get it???

 

[Nifty29]

What issue?

Multiple accounts - connected to other accounts - connected to other illicit accounts?

What did the fraud constitute? What was the casino deprived of?

He can not possible "justify his issue" if the nature of the allegations are not made known and explicit.

Do you not see the logic in all of this? 16 pages of thread and still the questions above have yet to be addressed. Astonishing performance.

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I'll just repeat what has already been stated:

YOU WILL NOT BE TOLD EXACTLY WHAT THE INCRIMINATING INFORMATION IS TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE PAB PROCESS AND THE CASINOS SECURITY MEASURES.

The player hasnt been told for the SAME reason, however they have been provided with an opportunity to answer some questions in relation to the fraud but they have either LIED or REFUSED.

Pangloss I still dont understand why you bother with coming here as it seems you really enjoy taking the p*ss out of the owner and trolling wherever you can.

If it's not good enough for you, then perhaps instead of wasting time here you should get involved directly with the fraudster and see if you can do any better?

What a fantastic idea. Instead of continually calling CMs honesty, integrity, and judgement into question with NO PROOF OF YOUR OWN, why not go help out the OP whom you obviously feel was very badly ripped off.

In fact, here is a question for the doubters and those who want 'proof'...where is your 'proof' that CM is lying or misrepresenting the facts?? How about instances in the past where he has lied and deceived the membership??? Good luck with that search.

BTW Pangloss, I wonder if he was playing Pontoon??

Now, dont you have a bridge somewhere to guard?

Simply not true......Is this a CULT or people you never even laid eyes on just posting the 100% truth on the internet.????........Seems like a CULT to me or has many characteristics of CULT like behavior .

Nash....I respect your opinion and always have....but Im not basing my trust on blind faith or some form of online brainwashing...it is based on EXPERIENCE with the people involved. Ive NEVER known them to lie or be dishonest about anything on this site in nearly 5 years, so why would I suddenly suspect them of doing it now? Do you see what I mean?

A Cult is where the members are completely brainwashed and blinded to any and all wrongdoing and hidden agendas of the leadership - surely you're not suggesting that, by taking the word of CM over some poster who has a history of being less than honest, I have lost all my self-control and just simply cannot see some huge co-ordinated fraud perpetrated by CM and Co right in front of my eyes to save an accredited online casino $3600??? C'mon Nash.

 

[jammybugger]

Final Comment From dannyg86 - OP

Thought I should send a final comment to address some of the lies that have been said about me. I'll be accused of ignoring more rules/multil accounting again, but what the hell. I don't like being called a criminal.

There's so much bullshit said about me I don't know where to start, if I missed anything please feel free to msn/email me, I have nothing to hide - [email protected].

I'll address some of the comments;
I CHOSE not to further my claim with CM after they refused my PAB - Max's email to me seems pretty clear they didn't want me to discuss it further "If you have a final message you would like me to forward to the casino on your behalf I would be happy to do so. Beyond that there is nothing more I can do for you on this issue. In particular I will not engage in further discussions or debate: I'll forward your message if you provide one and that is all." What was the point in me sending a final message to R69? R69 said there was no way I was getting my money back, and CM supported them, but according to Max this is "typical fraudster behaviour" ... Max didn't reply to my next email, so these statements are bull... CM:"wouldn't he have said, "No, wait a minute - you're wrong." and pop me or Max an email stating that there was more to it?" CM:"I could have offered him more assistance but he chose to deal with it like a juvenile"

I 'Lied about my PAB' and I'm a proven liar. Most of my PAB is copied into my opening post. I didn't lie about ANYTHING, the only lie that I supposedly said was that I had multiple accounts, when I didn't. I have no other accounts at R69, I told R69 to come and meet me personally if they liked and they could look at my passport or my house to prove i lived there.

I'm a lawyer - I am not and I never claimed to be.

I'm a cheat/liar/fraudster etc. All these comments are just based on the assumption that R69 have some evidence of me having multiple accounts. Hardly proof of guilt. They haven't even said the nature of how were defrauded. I played slots with no bonus, why would I need multiple accounts people? Think about this logically. I am one person, I havn't opened any other accounts @ R69, don't they ask for ID on every account? And why would I need to open other accounts to play slots with no bonuses? I just don't get it.

I've been given chances to say what I've really done and I've chose to ignore them, further evidence of guilt. - Bit of a paradox this one. All I know if this is the only account I have ever opened @ R69, how am I supposed to know what I've supposedly done wrong?

The bottom line is R69 may have seen some similarities between my account and others, easily explained by coincidence. They chose not to pay, and unfortunatly CM has had very poor judgement on the matter and have now dug themselves a hole. I'm not suggesting he's corrupt Nifty29, I'm just saying he's got it wrong, he's human. I was grateful they were helping me at the start, but as soon as I was called a fraud, told not to contact them again and banned from the forum, I was understandably upset.

I have learned from this and now will not play at dodgy casinos again.

Hopefully R69 will do the right thing and pay me my money. If not, tell a respected forum member with no affiliate income what the evidence is, and let them decide.

[Max says: readers should note that this person has ignored not one but two bans here at CM in order to create this new account. And, FWIW, it's more lies, obfuscation and half-truths.]

 

[zebedy]

If you think youve been wronged try here,

Link Removed ( Old/Invalid)

from there site

Usually, many cases result from a misunderstanding between the operator and the player and are promptly resolved through the PSC mediation if mediation cannot be achieved or the PSC suspect's irregularity, then it resolves to investigation and will take measures permitted under law to solve the case.

An investigation is based on the facts presented by the player, information and documents to support their complaint. The Player Support Channel (PSC) then contacts the Representative of the Licensee involved, requesting documentation and their response to the player's complaint.

The investigation process includes the collection of all the information from the player and the Licensee. Researching of the events that took place taking into account all the rules of the game, the terms and conditions the player has registered under and the Regulations in place.

The outcome is determined by the evidence and the facts presented for each separate complaint in accordance with the Regulations.

 

[jammybugger]

Thanks.
Yeh i emailed them a month ago and they haven't replied

 

[Nifty29]

Just FYI for those who still think the OP isnt dishonest and that everything he says is above board, here are his original members page and his new one:

About dannyg86
About you
I play online casinos sometimes, always the slots as they are exciting
Location
London
Sex
Male
How did you find Casinomeister?
Google
Interests
Holes in the ground - I'm a builder
Occupation
Builder
Best Casino IMHO
Intercasino
Worst Casino
One may be added soon
Favorite Films
Saving Private Ryan, Million Dollar Baby
Favorite Bands
Dance
Favorite TV shows
Football

About jammybugger
About you
i like playing cricket and visiting my family
Location
uk
Sex
Male
How did you find Casinomeister?
advert
Interests
play cricket, go out with my gf
Occupation
mechanic
Best Casino IMHO
32Red
Favorite Films
The Dark Knight
Favorite Bands
not fussy like anything really
Favorite TV shows
not really into tv

Geez Danny you can't even decide what your occupation is! Maybe someone at work on Monday can shed some light.

Oh, and here is Sally_Bairnishs' first post at CM:

Hi guys/gals, been looking at this forum the last week and though I should sign up.
Not sure what Casino I should join, it all looks so confusing!
I like the sound of Roulette69, shall I start there?

As CM said, you wouldnt have to be a rocket scientist would you?

I also wonder why this was Sally_Bairnishs' ONLY post before her 'friend' Dannyg86 'borrowed' her account to complain about 'his' experience with a casino that 'she' indicated she was going to play at.

I think you can probably put 2 and 2 together just from these tidbits...as for the rest, well I guess you just have to trust Max and Bryan.....or not.

 

[jammybugger]

Nifty, was you born a moron or did you have to work on it? I am not denying this is a bonus CM account, it's the only way I could put my side of the story up. If lies were being told about you, wouldn't you want to respond? Clearly I can't put the same shit in this profile as my original profile as it would be rejected.

As for Sally, yes that was her account, ring her up, or ask her to send you her ID if you like. Beleive it or not, people TALK in the real world, we talked about casinos and this site and R69 came up as we said they looked like they have the best slot bonuses, as we both played the slots when we were in Oz.

Stop focusing on this multiple accounts at CM bullshit which no one gives a fuck about, and have a look at the realy issue here and the real story;

I won on a slot machine that I had no advantage on.
There's no evidence of me using multiple accounts.
There's no motive for using multiple accounts.
There's been nothing said about HOW I was defrauding R69.

Read my long post again and try to grasp what is actually going on here

 

[Nifty29]

Nifty, was you born a moron or did you have to work on it? I am not denying this is a bonus CM account, it's the only way I could put my side of the story up. If lies were being told about you, wouldn't you want to respond? Clearly I can't put the same shit in this profile as my original profile as it would be rejected.

As for Sally, yes that was her account, ring her up, or ask her to send you her ID if you like. Beleive it or not, people TALK in the real world, we talked about casinos and this site and R69 came up as we said they looked like they have the best slot bonuses, as we both played the slots when we were in Oz.

Stop focusing on this multiple accounts at CM bullshit which no one gives a fuck about, and have a look at the realy issue here and the real story;

I won on a slot machine that I had no advantage on.
There's no evidence of me using multiple accounts.
There's no motive for using multiple accounts.
There's been nothing said about HOW I was defrauding R69.

Read my long post again and try to grasp what is actually going on here

...and now we begin to see the true colors.

Im my experience, those who are prepared to lie to get what they want in one area are very likely to do it again in others. You admitted yourself that you lied to setup another CM account, and no, it doesnt relate directly to your R69 issue, but it does tell us a bit more about you as a person.

If you are SO desperate to clear your name, send more 'proof' to Bryan who has invited you to do so, although your dishonest behaviour since has probably closed that avenue down.

I said at the beginning, its $50 to charity if Im wrong and a VERY public apology.

As for the insults - its the last resort of the guilty.

 

[jammybugger]

You're a hard egg to crack my friend.

 

[jammybugger]

The number actions that have shown me to be guilty are increasing by the minute. I should go through the thread and list them for a laugh.

Really this whole debacle would be laughable if I wasn't 3,600 out of pocket
Really could have made my xmas.

Anyone got any other ideas about how I could get my money? If I wanted to sue them how would I go about it?

Oh, and Nifty, you've called me a proven criminal on many ocasions based on a guy on the internet saying I am, without being able to back it up. It's worse than being called a moron.

 

[jammybugger]

If you are SO desperate to clear your name, send more 'proof' to Bryan who has invited you to do so, although your dishonest behaviour since has probably closed that avenue down.

Ok i'll do that when you prove you didn't rob my house whilst I was on holiday for 2 weeks last year.

What's Bryan asked me to do exactly? Here's Max's final email to me: "If you have a final message you would like me to forward to the casino on your behalf I would be happy to do so. Beyond that there is nothing more I can do for you on this issue. In particular I will not engage in further discussions or debate: I'll forward your message if you provide one and that is all."

Does that now make CM dishonest, untrustworthy liars, as they are saying I should have taken it further after my PAB...

 

[pangloss]

...and now we begin to see the true colors.

Im my experience, those who are prepared to lie to get what they want in one area are very likely to do it again in others. You admitted yourself that you lied to setup another CM account, and no, it doesnt relate directly to your R69 issue, but it does tell us a bit more about you as a person.

If you are SO desperate to clear your name, send more 'proof' to Bryan who has invited you to do so, although your dishonest behaviour since has probably closed that avenue down.

I said at the beginning, its $50 to charity if Im wrong and a VERY public apology.

As for the insults - its the last resort of the guilty.

Are you just trying to be a complete and utterly despicable idiot nifty29?

You are pointing at 'multiple forum accounts' that the aggrieved party has NEVER ONCE denied. And this so-called 'multi-accounting' is the one and only thing you hang your hat on for calling him a liar, cheat, fraud his behavior dishonest?

You are an embarrassment. You wouldn't give $50 to charity in a pink fit.

Again, there is no evidence of the player casino multi-accounting, there is no evidence of the player being connected to illicit accounts.

There is no allegation of any player impropriety that can be rationally responded without that allegation being explicitly and properly put.

There is no claim that the casino is any way out of pocket or has been deprived of anything be that cash, money, credit, advantage et al.

We don't have a crime - we don't have anything stolen.
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[pangloss]

Ok i'll do that when you prove you didn't rob my house whilst I was on holiday for 2 weeks last year.

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You are wasting your breath - he wouldn't understand a little nuance like that predicated on principles such as 'innocent until proven guilty'.

The impossibility of proving something didn't happen - we'll leave that to the immutable one.

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[jammybugger]

Thanks pangloss for your logical posts, you put accross exactly what I am thinking in better english than I could.

I'll try not to come accross as a scarastic git, but it's hard. I've had my reply to all the stuff CM and Max has said on the matter, so I am happy now.

Really, I didn't want to undermine their forum, it's just very hard to take being accused of doing something I've not done, espcially when it involves 3,600 of my money

 

[Nifty29]

You are an embarrassment. You wouldn't give $50 to charity in a pink fit.

You're right, usually I just volunteer my time once a fortnight for such an organisation as Ive never been 100% trusting of all 'charities' only very selected ones so I dont often give cash. Also, when I do donate cash its more than $50.

So I guess you got me twice.

I guess the OP's case is much stronger now you have personally attacked me.

 

[TOC]

You're getting childish now. No one here can help you more than CM & Max, my opinion. Since they couldn't or wouldn't or found out things about you they didn't agree with, well that's that. It's apparent now that you enjoy stirring up the pot and believe me this will get you know where. You should move on and take your dispute here as Roulette69 advises. "To the extent that you are not satisfied with E-Tainment's response you may contact the Lotteries and Gaming Authority, Malta at La Concorde, Abate Rigord Street , Ta Xbiex XBX 1121 Malta." The end as far as I see it..

 

[jas2587]

You're getting childish now. No one here can help you more than CM & Max, my opinion. Since they couldn't or wouldn't or found out things about you they didn't agree with, well that's that. It's apparent now that you enjoy stirring up the pot and believe me this will get you know where. You should move on and take your dispute here as Roulette69 advises. "To the extent that you are not satisfied with E-Tainment's response you may contact the Lotteries and Gaming Authority, Malta at La Concorde, Abate Rigord Street , Ta Xbiex XBX 1121 Malta." The end as far as I see it..

wow I think this is the 2nd time I agree with you TOC this thread is a dead horse an needs closed
Nifty you are beating a dead braincell theirs are dried an just upsetting yourself
This thread needs closed Please

Cindy

 

[jammybugger]

Hey I just wanted to reply to the mis-information that was said about me that I had no chance to respond to. Wouldn't you want to do the same?

And I'm not deliberately stirring the pot, I was confronted by someone who has called me a criminal, who just doesn't seem to grasp what is going on.

 

[jas2587]

Hey I just wanted to reply to the mis-information that was said about me that I had no chance to respond to. Wouldn't you want to do the same?

And I'm not deliberately stirring the pot, I was confronted by someone who has called me a criminal, who just doesn't seem to grasp what is going on.

you are cryng like a child that had their sucker taken away grow up an move along

Cindy

 

[jammybugger]

If 3,600 wasn't a lot of money to me I would have. Look i'm not arguing with you, I put my point across after CM's remarks so i've said my peace. People can make up their own minds about what is fair.

 

[felicie]

Hey Nifty have you or anyone else here ever seen the following? I found it on an old yellowed paper in my father's desk after his passing. It was in his handwriting but he was a reader not a writer so I'd like to find out who said it if anyone knows. Thank you.

Nobody is Perfect -
Each of us is a mixture of good qualities and some perhaps
not so good qualities. In considering our fellow man we
should remember his good qualities and realize that his
faults only prove that he is after all, a human being.
We should refrain from making harsh judgment of
a person just because he happens to be a dirty, rotten,
no good son of a bitch. ~ unknown

 

[chuchu59]

Are you just trying to be a complete and utterly despicable idiot nifty29?

You are pointing at 'multiple forum accounts' that the aggrieved party has NEVER ONCE denied. And this so-called 'multi-accounting' is the one and only thing you hang your hat on for calling him a liar, cheat, fraud his behavior dishonest?

You are an embarrassment. You wouldn't give $50 to charity in a pink fit.

Again, there is no evidence of the player casino multi-accounting, there is no evidence of the player being connected to illicit accounts.

There is no allegation of any player impropriety that can be rationally responded without that allegation being explicitly and properly put.

There is no claim that the casino is any way out of pocket or has been deprived of anything be that cash, money, credit, advantage et al.

We don't have a crime - we don't have anything stolen.
..

I am surprised you arent banned for flaming. Since you seem so intent to see your version of justice done I suggest you start a site similar to CM and accept PABs from players where CM and Max had them rejected.

And yes, I said in an earlier post that I am also game in donating $50 to charity like Nifty so make it $100.

 

[jas2587]

Hey Nifty have you or anyone else here ever seen the following? I found it on an old yellowed paper in my father's desk after his passing. It was in his handwriting but he was a reader not a writer so I'd like to find out who said it if anyone knows. Thank you.

Nobody is Perfect -
Each of us is a mixture of good qualities and some perhaps
not so good qualities. In considering our fellow man we
should remember his good qualities and realize that his
faults only prove that he is after all, a human being.
We should refrain from making harsh judgment of
a person just because he happens to be a dirty, rotten,
no good son of a bitch. ~ unknown

well you say it all
theres human beings an there are
dirty, rotten, no good son of a bitchs
an 1 has made 3 accounts to cause trouble here
just like a child they cant get something right the 1st time or to go their way they have a temper tantrum an jammybugger an panglos have went beyond both

Cindy

 

[jas2587]

Hey Nifty have you or anyone else here ever seen the following? I found it on an old yellowed paper in my father's desk after his passing. It was in his handwriting but he was a reader not a writer so I'd like to find out who said it if anyone knows. Thank you.

Nobody is Perfect -
Each of us is a mixture of good qualities and some perhaps
not so good qualities. In considering our fellow man we
should remember his good qualities and realize that his
faults only prove that he is after all, a human being.
We should refrain from making harsh judgment of
a person just because he happens to be a dirty, rotten,
no good son of a bitch. ~ unknown

you can find it here
Old / Expired Link

scroll down to the P's

Peter's Perfect People Palliative
Each of us is a mixture of good qualities and some (perhaps)
not-so-good qualities. In considering our fellow people we
should remember their good qualities and realize that their
faults only prove that they are, after all, human. We should
refrain from making harsh judgements of people just because
they happen to be dirty, rotten, no-good sons-of-bitches.


Cindy

 

[jammybugger]

Cause trouble? I'm just trying to advertise what these rogue casinos like Roulette69 do to you and maybe get my money back.

If you were wronged out of 3,600 and falsly accused, are you telling me would let it be?

 

[jas2587]

Cause trouble? I'm just trying to advertise what these rogue casinos like Roulette69 do to you and maybe get my money back.

If you were wronged out of 3,600 and falsly accused, are you telling me would let it be?

1st off if I was told they couldnt help me I would look for other outlets instead of posting like a raving child
2nd I would reread the thread an see just what a idiot you look like when it is all spelled out for you
3rd you are in my eyes not owed a penny cause the casino has said you are a bad person an Bryan an Maxd must have agreed on that 1 also
4th you are now becoming a thorn in peoples sides an it just isnt right
you are directing your anger well really you are way to calm to have been cheated out of $3600 but you are posting at the wrong place send them emails off an drop it cause there is no way in Hell that Bryan or Maxd would help you now

Good Luck an now wheres my broom move along

Cindy

 

[maxd]

Obviously those who wish to make a contribution to this thread have already done so.

Leaving this open seems to be attracting the shit-birds (meaning those who've come here to cause trouble and contribute nothing). Having the OP come back again and again in spite of our expressed wishes that they piss off makes no sense so I'm closing this discussion.

If anyone has something they wish to add to the topic them PM me, one of the other mods, or Bryan and state your case.