Tips Reduced Slot RTP's - How YOU Are Affected!

[colinsunderland]

Dr.bet is one of them opened in the last year or so. Solo casino and when I played with them all the slots were the highest RTP settings. Which for a new start up did kind of surprise me. And I had zero issues with them. Cant say if RTPS have now changed with them as I am not playing there at this time. But it does kind of fit with what Crogambler spoke of. And does actually make some sense.

What? Because one casino has high RTP settings it means no new casinos can start with lower ones?
Thats like me saying Unibet have high settings so all established casinos can only have the highest setting

It would also be against anti competition laws, and would be possibly price fixing, both of which aren't allowed.

 

[Deeplay]

What? Because one casino has high RTP settings it means no new casinos can start with lower ones?
Thats like me saying Unibet have high settings so all established casinos can only have the highest setting

It would also be against anti competition laws, and would be possibly price fixing, both of which aren't allowed.

No it dont mean that but was just saying they are new stand alone casinos (not many) but some still coming through to the Uk Market. And in this case they do / did have highest RTPs. I dont think comp laws or price fixing has anything to do with this. Its the same as buying power - the more you purchase the better price you can attract.

We for example have clients who do get much better offers because they are eshtablished with us - where as new clients coming through need to build up some kind of track record in order to access long term discounts. Nothing illegal in that. Same could go for game provdiors with casinos even though in the end it means the player is worse off if they choose to take lower Rtps.

I think what has been said by crogambler sounds feasable.

 

[colinsunderland]

No it dont mean that but was just saying they are new stand alone casinos (not many) but some still coming through to the Uk Market. And in this case they do / did have highest RTPs. I dont think comp laws or price fixing has anything to do with this. Its the same as buying power - the more you purchase the better price you can attract.

We for example have clients who do get much better offers because they are eshtablished with us - where as new clients coming through need to build up some kind of track record in order to access long term discounts. Nothing illegal in that. Same could go for game provdiors with casinos even though in the end it means the player is worse off if they choose to take lower Rtps.

I think what has been said by crogambler sounds feasable.

But that makes no sense in this scenario. If the RTP is lower then the provider makes more money, so surely if they did put some restrictions on while the casino was building up a track record, then it would be a lower RTP than higher. So the provider makes more from new customers, and then less for loyal ones.
It would be like your loyalty prices being higher rather than lower.

 

[dunover]

But that makes no sense in this scenario. If the RTP is lower then the provider makes more money, so surely if they did put some restrictions on while the casino was building up a track record, then it would be a lower RTP than higher. So the provider makes more from new customers, and then less for loyal ones.
It would be like your loyalty prices being higher rather than lower.

Ever renew car or home insurance?

 

[pinnit2014]

Ever renew car or home insurance?

Funnily enough, got a letter from the insurance co the other day and they specifically said:

As you have been with us for X years, you may not be getting the best deal (which i took as : you pay more for being with us longer)

Same for Sky etc - try ringing them up and saying with you for X time, new customers are getting more, for less and they tell u to piss off basically.

 

[colinsunderland]

Ever renew car or home insurance?

Funnily enough, thats just been outlawed by the FCS, all customers should now get the same price. Wish they would fuck off interfering, clearly all thats going to happen is they will stop offering discounts for people who switch/start a new policy, so people end up paying more.

 

[johnnymcc1966]

Massively affected. I don't seem to hit anything nowadays,even on the crappy netent stuff. The play n go casinos which say they have the full RTP on Book of Dead such as Unibet,Pokerstars,PaddyPower are even harder to bonus than they used to be.

 

[Slotplayer83]

here on the forums it's advocated it's all random, genuine, blabla, on the other hand year in year out players KEEP falling for it. Imagine one month no deposits to any big casino; they'll be in panic and suddenly RTP's can go up!

Really vote with your wallet. Report the scamming affiliates on youtube with their 100k buys. Stick close to casino's who do right, as in not being greedy as f.

 

[colinsunderland]

here on the forums it's advocated it's all random, genuine, blabla, on the other hand year in year out players KEEP falling for it. Imagine one month no deposits to any big casino; they'll be in panic and suddenly RTP's can go up!

Really vote with your wallet. Report the scamming affiliates on youtube with their 100k buys. Stick close to casino's who do right, as in not being greedy as f.

So are you going to back up your earlier claims with any evidence like you said you would?

 

[Deeplay]

But that makes no sense in this scenario. If the RTP is lower then the provider makes more money, so surely if they did put some restrictions on while the casino was building up a track record, then it would be a lower RTP than higher. So the provider makes more from new customers, and then less for loyal ones.
It would be like your loyalty prices being higher rather than lower.

It might not make sense from one perspective but from a business perspective it makes total sense. Example the way our clients can lock into better product price points is by showing longevity and sustained growth in sales. That is part of the insentive to building long lasting partnerships.

Example 2 : We have a new client - shows promise , has everything set up in the right way and has understanding of our product they will purchase. But they have no sales. No track record. They will pay the highest purchase point in most cases. When volume grows and sales show sustainabilty then discounts will be offered.

And a lower RTP is similar to offering a casino a discounted rate - its just the player pays for it over time. From a Producers perspective it makes sense to give an insentive to push there own products to be able to secure a lower longer term price point. RTP is just another commodity. The more you sell the lower the price you will be able to purchase that commodity for. That is the way business works like it or not.

 

[colinsunderland]

It might not make sense from one perspective but from a business perspective it makes total sense. Example the way our clients can lock into better product price points is by showing longevity and sustained growth in sales. That is part of the insentive to building long lasting partnerships.

Example 2 : We have a new client - shows promise , has everything set up in the right way and has understanding of our product they will purchase. But they have no sales. No track record. They will pay the highest purchase point in most cases. When volume grows and sales show sustainabilty then discounts will be offered.

And a lower RTP is similar to offering a casino a discounted rate - its just the player pays for it over time. From a Producers perspective it makes sense to give an insentive to push there own products to be able to secure a lower longer term price point. RTP is just another commodity. The more you sell the lower the price you will be able to purchase that commodity for. That is the way business works like it or not.

It's not quite the same though, as the supplier is getting less money by not offering the 'discount', thats what I mean, obviously I know what you are saying in regards to normal business, but if it were physical goods it would go
You buy product for £100
Sell for £200 to new customer, £150 to loyal customer, £125 to a really loyal customer, but your supplier adjusts his pricing dependant on your customer loyalty level, so that on the new customer you make £25, on the loyal one you make £50, and a really loyal one, you make £100 (say at the 91% RTP setting)
If thats the case, then theres no point in you offering tiered pricing as you make less the higher you sell at.
Probably not the best way to explain it as it's not really something you can compare.

But if a casino offers 96% the producer might make say £1 for every £100 wagered, but then £1.50 for it on 94% and £2 on 91%.
If thats the case then every single supplier would have to be doing the same method, which I just can't see, as I'm sure someone from the industry would have mentioned it somewhere before now.

 

[deleted_user-20231116]

Looks like things are about to get even worse.

 

[Slotplayer83]

Oh well, its fun while it lasted.

Anybody now saying that online slots are better then landbased; get yourself checked. It's all about the margings and profits. More for themself less for players.

 

[Fredos386]

Well as multiple casinos and group are not paying any withdrawals to canadians (don't know if it touches other countries). All my friends and i are barely playing. No withdrawal anywhere, they all say they have a eternal bug with withdrawals system while the deposit system works perfectly fine right. They make players flee. Quit or return land-based as we aren't getting paid at all anymore so why even play? For curious people, dama/N1/caddel and all independant casinos on softswiss platform (other than stake) are not paying us and it been all casinos (we together have 2 dozen casinos with pending withdrawals for weeks). So they are doing an amazing job at destroying their industry, everyone i know or almost is gone or moved to other hobbies. GG casinos. If only tobacco companies had such ideas to make their customer quit lol

On another note, i live in canada and where i live all the slots and lotteries and casinos are owned and operated by the provincial government (quebec) and all the games are set at 92% all across the board. So no way we will keep playing at anything under 94% as then we can just go play the real deal in real casinos or local bars for the same price. The industry is sinking, going through it's final stages before the bubble bust. Even though seems like the bubble is already busting considering the rate at which players all over the world that i know are all gone or about to.

But overall not paying any players of an entire country for weeks/months is seriously the best idea they ever had. Not to mention that eventually we'll just have no choice but to start the biggest class-joint action ever seen against the industry for thousands of players and millions of dollars in withdrawals held by the casinos. There is a big storm ahead, lots of casinos opening but soon most will shut back down. Only when the big clean up happen and the industry be on its knees will it, hopefully, go back to where it was.

Casinos are not popular or succesful today because of the product they offer today. They run on the money from the old regulars they hooked running much better rtp, promo, and service overall. This is about done now. The popularity is going down, you just can't tell unless you talk to hundreds of regulars online everyday. Then you can tell the industry shot itself.. repetitively. There is also a economic crisis ahead, the economy will take a hit and the industry with it. Since they already operate garbage rtp and are stealing/deceiving customers all they can... What will they do when this will happen? People never been thrown so much money "free money" at than the last year and casinos found a way to struggle LOL. They did because there is too many casinos, too many people making money from this industry. The casinos can say its expensive to operate all they want, its not our fault its theirs. We still just pay to spin pixels at home on our computer and electircity and internet. So we already pay thousands for a connection to a server and some games you could have on a 0.99$ phone app. So the industry found a way to struggle and need a insane amount of money to sell air to their customers? Pure geniuses...

I, for a long time, tried to fight the shit in the industry but soon realized i had nothing to do, they were committing a industry suicide on their own already. So i just watch the show, if i play i bet the minimum and deposit the minimum. I wait and hope that it gets better and if it doesnt then i'll be gone along with everyone else to something different.

p.s.: A slot on 94% compared to 96% is not only 50% more expensive, it's also a diminished product. Even if you can afford them, extra dead spins are not fun. Sessions are boring beyond belief, nothing happen. Earlier i deposited to a casino, 2 years ago i wouldve been glued to my computer till balance is 0 cause i was so hyped to play. This time, i saw balance, my brain showed me pictures of dead spins... I stood up and went take a shower. Didn't even want to play it. So you pay more for worst product, its exponentially bad.

 

[deleted_user-20231116]

I see Videoslots have allready taken the opportunity to reduce the RTP, greedy fucks as they are.

 

[Fredos386]

Time to talk with our wallets. Stop playing or deposit small bet small. Hurt them. It's not them that decides in the long run, it's the customers as never forget that a casino has no money, the players have it. Without players, no casino. So if enough people do it they won't have choice. If people keep playing as usual then they will continue and since casinos are greedy beyond reason they will push even more.

p.s.: my 2 cents for what it is worth, certain casino i won't name milked the player base for 1-2 years and the other casinos seeing their numbers shrink joined the train and decided to milk them too. They are destroying their own industry. The sink is sinking. They will have a crisis, many will close and maybe after a new era of casinos that understand that they need to take care of their customers? I know i know.. this is delusion lol

 

[anddi32]

This screen shot is from new Netent called codex of fortune. I just can't understand. As we see game informs that theoretical RTP-range inside the game is 8%. If game has solid RTP and no other versions in the markets it sounds really strange. 8% range just depending on what tactics you use. I cannot believe that.

Or other theory: They are informing just one theoretical RTP-range what can be something between 90 - 98% and player can't know which RTP-version is in which casino. Is this legal or in accordance with the terms of the license (MGA)?

 

[CasinoNinja]

This screen shot is from new Netent called codex of fortune. I just can't understand. As we see game informs that theoretical RTP-range inside the game is 8%. If game has solid RTP and no other versions in the markets it sounds really strange. 8% range just depending on what tactics you use. I cannot believe that.

Or other theory: They are informing just one theoretical RTP-range what can be something between 90 - 98% and player can't know which RTP-version is in which casino. Is this legal or in accordance with the terms of the license (MGA)?


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I got 200x following that "strategy", but that was just luck.

But it makes sense to save the keys and don't waste them on the initial re-spins. If you save 3 keys you are guaranteed 75x as a minimum when you trigger the freespins.

 

[bgallick]

One site I know went from 96% to 90% in Gonzo's Quest Megaways, overnight - Lost a small fortune before I realised. Had only checked it the day before.

Also, asked support at 10BET the RTP of same game and was given the older, higher RTP. After a while I was suspicious and found out they lied. Seems that agents cant keep up either.

And I am sure some sites are changing the RTP mor than once and possibly even for different players.

The UKGC needs to step up to the mark. After all this is their fault for imposing extra costs.

We need to be told the RTP of a game on the opening screen, every time. Nothing less will do.

I have made this complaint to the UKGC.

 

[Downsman]

We need to be told the RTP of a game on the opening screen, every time. Nothing less will do.

Agreed..Blueprint do this, sure it wouldn't be that difficult for the other providers to implement.

 

[slot_zombie]

Agreed..Blueprint do this, sure it wouldn't be that difficult for the other providers to implement.

No, they only did it selectively on their higher RTP games.

 

[bgallick]

And perhaps Casinomeister could take this into account when rating and reccommending casinos, after all, this behaviour is not the hallmark of a reputable operator.

 

[Lincolnuk]

I see VS as added some maybe all relax to there list of nuked rtp. A nice straight 94 rtp

 

[deleted20230517]

Maybe i'm getting insane, or maybe i'm right. I play at 2 different casino's in the country i'm in. They both provide the better games and including bonus buys. The pattern is with both 85% extremely simular. I can have losses for days, but i can have wins out of nowhere. This is really not that is bothering me, but more like "pushing beyond" a certain win.

Now for the last 2 weeks i've encountered 2 times a simular occasion on both casino's. I basicly hit on every game untill i reach a certain threshold. From there i usually lower down, and get back to that threshold again. This has bin so far a sign that, hey this is'nt working now, take the money and go. Because from all these times ive attempted to play big, i lost after getting back to that 2nd threshold again.

I'm proberly deluded in a way thinking there is a system, but in this winning streak any game i touch i win. And i'm talking hunderds of euro's. The behaviour is also the same. If i win big on a pragmatic game, switch to another game, buy a bonus, the first game guaranteed a loss. Untill i select another game again or i hit it for the second time.

I think casino's simply license the games, and when it's my time to win i win all over the board. I have no clue on how this works. It's simular as doing 10 deposits. 7 are going to bust. 8th is going to play or set you even. The 9th and 10th are somehow to that threshold again. It's like that threshold (soft limit) is pretty much decided on my deposit behaviour and the amounts to it. The moment however i do win big, and i'm talking in the 10k range or even bigger, i usually had to lose like 2 or 3 times to that threshold i'm against.

I'm not saying it's not random, hey i won 130k at the start of this year. And it really came out of nowhere. But it's a very odd pattern i'm constantly hitting over 2 different and licenced casino's. And ive lessened up on one particular casino due to the frequent and quite fast losses i experience over there. Suddenly VIP managers dropping in deposit free bonus over time or "100 free spins" with a denomination of 0.05ct; wins usually guaranteed to set me at a 400 euro level to keep me playing.

It's consistent. I cant help seeing it. And it nukes kind of the pleasure i'm getting with slots lately. Its basicly i'm paying for my own entertainment where the real edge of gambling is smaller.

 

[plasticnote]

I have closed all my dama NV casinos accounts, when I find out some of slots settings.

Reduced RTP means less play time, much heavy loses and a lot of less enjoyment.

Slots features just do not trigger... in one case, I went through 500x of my bets in 1100+ spins. And no feature...

Time to say goodbye to these crypto sites. They used to be good but not anymore...

 

[philderby]

Glad to say it doesn't affect me. I stopped playing months ago and found some non gambling hobbies. All this SOW and reduced RTPs makes me wonder why folk carry on in the UK. Its not for me anymore. Each to their own and all that

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[SCATT3R]

The difference in feature triggering is very noticable even if 94% or 96% doesn't sound like much. I've played Great Rhino Megaways a great deal lately and over 15,000 spins on a 96.64 version, I've landed more than 1 feature pr 100 spins on average while the other day I was playing on a 94 version and over 800 spins, the feature landed once!! Maybe those are two extremes, but still says a lot about what we have to endure playing these new, even greedier versions.

 

[jasonuk]

We're in a dangerous phase - both regulated and unregulated - where players need to understand this isn't "bad luck", and they're not "playing the same game" anymore. I'm sure the the following table is obvious to many, but I think it's worth stressing again for guests and newer players alike - if your 96% sessions last on average an hour, at 92% this will be 30 minutes, and at 88% this will be 20 minutes... it's not the same game despite having the same graphics and name, and at average luck you will lose significantly faster. The only way the operators will learn is if people vote with their wallets.

Historically, promotions would have taken some of the sting out of the RTP as well - so that 4% house edge may have been closer to 2-3%... but as those are rapidly drying up, we have a double whammy - e.g. in the case of William Hill we now have 88% machines in the wild online, so potentially you're losing money three (at RTP) to six (at RTP+promotions) times faster than before!

Return To Player (RTP)	House Edge	Wagering to lose £100
98%	2%	£5000 = £100/0.02
97%	3%	£3,333
96%	4%	£2500
94%	6%	£1666
92%	8%	£1250
90%	10%	£1000
88%	12%	£833

This screen shot is from new Netent called codex of fortune. I just can't understand. As we see game informs that theoretical RTP-range inside the game is 8%. If game has solid RTP and no other versions in the markets it sounds really strange. 8% range just depending on what tactics you use. I cannot believe that.

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I appreciate this is from last year, but since the thread has resurfaced...

Codex of Fortune is a stored value variation of Turn Your Fortune (96.4% original) - since there's player strategy involved they have to declare the RTP range:

• I would expect 90.2% to be the basic RTP excluding keys (people don't play enough to earn one, or forget to use them)
• Similarly, 98.0% will be the RTP with optimal usage of keys (that is, saving them up for the biggest triggers - of course you have to play a couple of thousand spins to get enough keys, and will have the highest volatility)

It was one of a variety of strategies deployed to offer Schrödinger's RTP - higher headline RTPs and lower realised RTPs... because the higher RTP only comes about if you complete the climb correctly, if not that stored value can go to waste (whether expiry in-game, or lost when the account is closed or game is redeployed by the casino).

 

[plasticnote]

Unfortunately, some of us can only play at unregulated sites.
I have noticed obvious differences even if some games claim to be 97%...
In the past few months, it is too often that I went through 800 to 1000 spins across 3 or 4 games (low,mid variance) without a feature and their claimed RTPs are all 97+%...
I start thinking, could I really trust these small providers' RTP claim when their games are often only appearing on unregulated sites?
It is most likely they are trying milk as much as possible when players vote with their wallets.
Worse RTP and less players, a death spiral...

For example:
"lucky lady moon", the game profile on the provider website only mentions 1 RTP - 97%
However, I found out that I played a version of 87.5%...

 

[LoopsterAU]

Being in AU we can only play unregulated and up until 2 months ago when I stopped playing all together the previous 6 months before that had such a noticeable difference in playtime between all providers despite listing full RTP that it finally made me so sick of playing to lose that I have completely stopped playing any where.

Previously sure I would have massive withdrawals plenty of times but over time they would all go back in plus a lot more and I was a very heavy depositor, now because of their greed they have lost one of their biggest depositors, and I am sure its occurred with plenty of other depositors like me.

As the comment above me said, "Worse RTP and less players, a death spiral".

Us players who would win big would eventually lose due to greed and wanting to win more, now it is the opposite, the greed is on the casino's side so they will lose all the players.

 

[plasticnote]

Being in AU we can only play unregulated and up until 2 months ago when I stopped playing all together the previous 6 months before that had such a noticeable difference in playtime between all providers despite listing full RTP that it finally made me so sick of playing to lose that I have completely stopped playing any where.

Previously sure I would have massive withdrawals plenty of times but over time they would all go back in plus a lot more and I was a very heavy depositor, now because of their greed they have lost one of their biggest depositors, and I am sure its occurred with plenty of other depositors like me.

As the comment above me said, "Worse RTP and less players, a death spiral".

Us players who would win big would eventually lose due to greed and wanting to win more, now it is the opposite, the greed is on the casino's side so they will lose all the players.

Unregulated crypto sites face no tax pressure, reducing RTP as much as they can...

They want your money; they want it now... not after lunch, not tomorrow, they want it now

They do not care about their future market as they well may not exist tomorrow or even after lunch...

 

[slot_zombie]

A little something to give UK casino managers running on 94% a heart attack, over at Stake

I'm loving this game, the OVER MAX RTP feels like it makes a big difference.

 

[LoopsterAU]

A little something to give UK casino managers running on 94% a heart attack, over at Stake

I'm loving this game, the OVER MAX RTP feels like it makes a big difference.

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So they have given you the streamer RTP version to your account to bait you in for a while ?

 

[satchnz]

A little something to give UK casino managers running on 94% a heart attack, over at Stake

I'm loving this game, the OVER MAX RTP feels like it makes a big difference.

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This is great to see but is it legit? I thought the max RTP for Dog House MW was 96.55%.

 

[toms596]

Shows as 96.55% when I checked it on Stake

I see it now it's for Stake exclusive Dog Mansion Megaways

 

[slot_zombie]

This is great to see but is it legit? I thought the max RTP for Dog House MW was 96.55%.

They made a special edition for Stake running at 98%.

 

[slot_zombie]

Shows as 96.55% when I checked it on Stake

You need to select Dog Mansion Megaways which is the stake enhanced RTP version

 

[slot_zombie]

So they have given you the streamer RTP version to your account to bait you in for a while ?

I'll take it.

 

[satchnz]

They made a special edition for Stake running at 98%.

Interesting…

 

[Lemon]

I'd still lose heavily on it. That slot hates me ?

 

[brianmon]

A little something to give UK casino managers running on 94% a heart attack, over at Stake

I'm loving this game, the OVER MAX RTP feels like it makes a big difference.

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They can state whatever RTP they want to. It's not like it will need to be certified by any regulatory body

 

[brookemcallan]

OK, we know for the last 18 months developers have been coaxed to provide alternative (invariably lower!) maths models to online casinos. Generally they have and should inform you of product changes, although not always and in the case of Coral, having slots with nerfed RTP's that were not reflected in the game list RTP's which claimed the higher factory settings.
I think that when players see a reduction of say 2% from 96 to 94% they see the difference as not that significant. Alas, it is and very much so as when you take into account recycling of winnings, that figure has an exponential effect on your average playtime. In this example, by around 30%!!

We all have our 'usual' deposit amounts and stakes, say £50 at 40p spins. Obviously there's no accounting here for variance, just the long term fact that every spin will on average cost you 4% of its value, the house edge on a 96% slot. This video explains how my RTP spin calculator works and how to simply enter your deposit, stake and RTP of your chosen game to compare average playtime/spin quantities you can expect.

*Disclaimer - for now this is embedded in a specific page on my website which as you will see, as an approved CM webmeister, I always have an indirect link to in my signature anyway. I will however, endeavour to get this embedded in a post in this thread if possible ASAP so forum members can use it from the forum!

**This video is not age-gated as it's news/informational and has no gambling involved.

1000% agree I've been fighting this behind the scenes THE GAMES ARE DEFO SOMEHOW CHANGED AFTER A CLIENT WITHDRAWS MORESO AND YES THE RTPS HAVE BEEN BELOW 50 AT SOME TIMES OF TESTING BUT NOTHING CONCRETE YET

 

[slot_zombie]

Luck Of The Irish Big Bonus rolled out today from Blueprint, the third title in a row to be on a cemented 94.5%.

Won't be playing their games from now on as it's fixed at that even on the crypto sites.

 

[megadam]

Luck Of The Irish Big Bonus rolled out today from Blueprint, the third title in a row to be on a cemented 94.5%.

Won't be playing their games from now on as it's fixed at that even on the crypto sites.

Really? I've seen this on Leo and Mr Q at 95.5%

 

[justdoit]

for me best RTP VirginGaming I just wish they add some more good games
I am up over 2k since I open account back in 2018

 

[slot_zombie]

I'm loving these over Max RTP Pragmatics. Actually more than 98% RTP when rakeback is taken into account.

Buffalo King aka Bison Spirit is now up at 98% RTP

 

[satchnz]

I'm loving these over Max RTP Pragmatics. Actually more than 98% RTP when rakeback is taken into account.

Buffalo King aka Bison Spirit is now up at 98% RTP

Would you stop bragging please! Some of us cannot play there! ?

 

[slot_zombie]

Would you stop bragging please! Some of us cannot play there! ?

Well as a crusader for top RTP it's only fair to let folks know what's out there..

A note of caution tho, so far only the highest variance games have been re-released on these settings. Yet to see anything with a 5000x cap. So you can still get a really rough ride on them on a bad day.

If Doors Of Olympus ever sees the light of day, I'll never leave the house again..

 

[satchnz]

Loving he name variations.

 

[justdoit]

Would you stop bragging please! Some of us cannot play there! ?

98 % RTP not for everyone, is just streamers RTP ?