William Hill go even lower on RTP

Rahdoh82

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Reduced RTP is happening on all upUk casinos and they're not even letting u know....worst offenders among the providers is play n go who even go as low as 89 percent which I came across on ny spins...all this which is as a result of too much regulation by the ukgc is gonna push everyone crypto..I already play on there and have had no issues and the rtp is usually the highest available
 

gonzo fonso

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i will never play at william hill ever again,how is it ever possible to lose on the daily drop,basically ive lost on it every day in succesion in the last 2 months,so yes its fixed im wondering what else is fixed who knows
 

satchnz

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i will never play at william hill ever again,how is it ever possible to lose on the daily drop,basically ive lost on it every day in succesion in the last 2 months,so yes its fixed im wondering what else is fixed who knows
I would imagine that their in house daily chance game isn’t regulated the same as slots are.

I used to play small stakes video poker there on most weekdays and would pretty much win free spins every time. The free spins themselves didn’t ever amount to much but at least I got them.

How often do/did you play at WH?
 

paul7388

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The bonus drop is garbage now compared to a couple of years ago so you are not missing much.

But I do win either free spins or something else daily of it. Might be just because I use the sports betting just about every day and play the slots most days
 

danofthewibble

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The drop seems to be random. I’ve not lost in weeks or in, but I also went a month or so without a single win.

The same promo is also running on Mr Green now. Same deal, except I’ve won cash from it twice in a month, and never once won cash in several years on William Hill’s version.

(Also, for a few weeks, they had the free spin prizes setup incorrectly, so although it said you’d get 5x spins at £0.10, they had that as the line bet, rather than the total bet. Some nice payouts for that. But they’ve fixed it now, so it’s ruined. But I can at least mention it now ;)
 

TheAddict

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There was a time I went a month without almost anything. My deposits are small and speradic at hillsl I dont beleieve those drops to be random tbh. Since withdrawing from 5 free spins maybe 2 monthe ago, lol, I've deposited 5 quid in the past 8 weeks, and won the drop for either 1spin at 20p prize or much more regularly, a 5 spins at 10p prize. won probably 58/60 times over the past 2 months.
i will never play at william hill ever again,how is it ever possible to lose on the daily drop,basically ive lost on it every day in succesion in the last 2 months,so yes its fixed im wondering what else is fixed who knows
 

greylady

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The drop seems to be random. I’ve not lost in weeks or in, but I also went a month or so without a single win.

The same promo is also running on Mr Green now. Same deal, except I’ve won cash from it twice in a month, and never once won cash in several years on William Hill’s version.

(Also, for a few weeks, they had the free spin prizes setup incorrectly, so although it said you’d get 5x spins at £0.10, they had that as the line bet, rather than the total bet. Some nice payouts for that. But they’ve fixed it now, so it’s ruined. But I can at least mention it now ;)
I managed to withdraw £600 from those free spins at Mr Green, £1 spins on Legacy of Dead bonus round before they realised their mistake. Won nothing since.
 

gonzo fonso

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I would imagine that their in house daily chance game isn’t regulated the same as slots are.

I used to play small stakes video poker there on most weekdays and would pretty much win free spins every time. The free spins themselves didn’t ever amount to much but at least I got them.

How often do/did you play at WH?
i played once a week sorta stuff,it just isnt possible to lose every day on that bonus drop its like flipping a coin n getting tails for 60 times,just not going to happen
 

JGslots

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If… for some obscure reason anyone hasn’t got an account at William Hill…

There’s a stake £10 get £50 bonus in the form of 50 free spins at £1 each.

code is HILLS50 and you need to stake £10 to get the 50. Fishin Frenzy and wagering is 25x

Only new customers it seems.
 

mack341

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A few things, I was recently playing at WH and wondering why they don't even have a way of marking and grouping your favourite games, at first I put it down to incompetence but then a more sinister reason came to mind, it's a way of funnelling you towards trying their shite games [ typically with chronic rtp] incl many new titles.

Their bingo slots page is also much better to navigate, you can choose 'all slots' and look at each game and find an rtp figure easily [I won't say 'the rtp' as you have to double check]

In the main site they have the original thunderstruck misadvertising it as a 96.5% or something, when you load the game up and find the external help file it's 93 or 94%!

I'm getting a lot of emails from casinos atm, ones I haven't played at for years, so they must be going through their lists to try to drum up some business, maybe low rtp is protecting their bottom line but in the end the product is worse and that will tell in the end; there's a reason slot makers settled on 96% in the first place, and it was not because they're were being over generous.
 

Siohmy

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Yeah, the main UK bookies sites do that Mack. They have a collection of “picks” and “hot new games” which are almost all uniformly around 94% and, sometimes, way below (I’ve seen around 90%). Then general make the better %age slots tougher to find unless you know what to search for.
Not matter what you may think about BTG, if they stick to their guns with single 96% RTPs, the casinos will squeeze them out along with any others.

As a counter, interestingly Grosvenor have just added Play’nGo slots to their site and most are currently set at the high 96% setting. Not sure how long that’ll last though.
 

bamberfishcake

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Not matter what you may think about BTG, if they stick to their guns with single 96% RTPs, the casinos will squeeze them out along with any others.

I think the power lies with the game developers. No casino will squeeze BTG out because they make too much money, even with 96%ers.

The real power lies with the players and where we put our money.
 

Siohmy

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I think the power lies with the game developers. No casino will squeeze BTG out because they make too much money, even with 96%ers.

The real power lies with the players and where we put our money.
To a degree but their star is fading somewhat. I think it’s only a matter of time before they are backed into a corner. Some of their more popular slots are probably safe but are you telling me that casinos won’t dump the likes of Holy Diver and look to insist on multi %rtp going forward.
Many casinos are very selective about which BTG slots they carry.
At the end of the day the casinos dictate what does and doesn’t appear on their platform and if most of the manufacturers are happy to provide 94% and lower slots then that will be what most casinos will go for.
 

bamberfishcake

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To a degree but their star is fading somewhat. I think it’s only a matter of time before they are backed into a corner. Some of their more popular slots are probably safe but are you telling me that casinos won’t dump the likes of Holy Diver and look to insist on multi %rtp going forward.
Many casinos are very selective about which BTG slots they carry.
At the end of the day the casinos dictate what does and doesn’t appear on their platform and if most of the manufacturers are happy to provide 94% and lower slots then that will be what most casinos will go for.
Agree in part, however, gaps in markets get filled, just as players become more educated every day.

In a sea of casinos offering low-paying RTP versions, casinos like MrQ stand out and there will always be MrQ's even when MrQ turns to the dark side. RTP knowledge, in general, is on the increase, lower-paying versions lose too much and affect playtime drastically.

We have Aldi, Tescos and M&S for a reason. Same with casinos, some will offer tripe and a few will offer premium products and become more profitable when the whales choose to play there.

p.s. Hopefully, the 96% RTP models will always be around, because they become sought after. Businesses meet the needs of consumers and there is a desire for 96%ers.
 

ricky

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Looking at chucking £50 into a new casino to get a match offer, 50x wagering, meh not to bad these days then read on.. £500 capped winnings on first deposit bonus. Needless to say I saved my 50 quid. Had a good laugh and read that term a couple of times thought id read it wrong

Looks like I'm going to be playing poker mtts most evenings going forward. Dont think i'll get SOW demands playing $3 MTTS :D

sports accas are a great alternative, some sites even top up as a cash bonus
 

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