William Hill go even lower on RTP

[pinnit2014]

Oh poor casinos... How they manage to survive with only 4% House edge...

Just building it up to give you your 2000x bonanza win

 

[mack341]

I noticed their usual weekend 10% of your losses back was now restricted to your play on 1 game. So I think they must be 'reaping' the awards from the rtp cuts and the website changes they've so far brought in.

 

[pinnit2014]

Yeah, they go through periods were offers are good for 3 months and then Sky/Coral level garbage for the next 6

 

[ESCJAMIE]

I've not even won any spins in 52 days?

Always an X

Not that i'm bitter...

I have a friend who wins almost every day 5 fs, there is for sure somthing on our accounts to stop us winning on that spinner

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Nauses me up every time I see their fucking irritating adverts on the tv or hear them on the radio,

Greedy c**ts

 

[gonzo fonso]

yeah i agree with all your coments guys,im sure 888.com have something to do with william hill ?

 

[Siohmy]

Just makes it easier not to play. May be in the minority along with others on here but will not play any site which has most slots on lower or lowest setting. If that means I eventually pretty much stop altogether then that’s not a bad thing to be honest even though I can more than afford what I play.
Only MrQ’s, All British and, at a push, Grosvenor (many PlaynGo’s still at max, although book of dead at 94%).
It always sticks in the throat when SkyVegas boast about being the biggest online casino whilst, at the same time, being the biggest rip off.

 

[slot_zombie]

I can walk into their Brick and Mortar betting shops and get a marginally higher RTP.

Just makes it easier not to play. May be in the minority along with others on here but will not play any site which has most slots on lower or lowest setting. If that means I eventually pretty much stop altogether then that’s not a bad thing to be honest even though I can more than afford what I play.
Only MrQ’s, All British and, at a push, Grosvenor (many PlaynGo’s still at max, although book of dead at 94%).
It always sticks in the throat when SkyVegas boast about being the biggest online casino whilst, at the same time, being the biggest rip off.

Nope, haven't played one spin on a reduced RTP slot - ever - and never will. Not going to keep banging the offshore drum but can't beat it.

Mr Q for me onshore.

Also make an exception for Lottomart as decent site and rep, even though a lot of RTP is lowered, I use them mostly for my BTG sessions and avoid the lowered RTP games. But that backfired over the weekend as Mark's Golden Catch proceeded to execute a 170 quid low rolling deposit with nary a flicker. Must have been fishing in depleted European waters ?

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Golden Catch is a truly terrible game tbf.

 

[onelastspintowinbig]

Must have been fishing in depleted European waters ?

a spanish player caught all the 500x fish at the weekend.....

 

[ricky]

I noticed their usual weekend 10% of your losses back was now restricted to your play on 1 game. So I think they must be 'reaping' the awards from the rtp cuts and the website changes they've so far brought in.

they used to give back 10% of not only your deposit but the bonus too if you got one

i remember being a vip there when they would give out 15%...would get 30% of deposit back

 

[jasonuk]

Another day, and another provider... this time SG (now Light and Wonder) offering 89.75% RTP on Action Bank Cash Shot.

At least the promotions will take the sting out of it, right? Well the long-standing 10% weekend cashback promotion has ended, the weekly buy-in bonus (15xB on selected 92-94% slots) has gone missing, the bingo and poker promotions are missing after being merged into the Vegas tab, and in one case a £7500 slot battle promotion was voided retroactively - possibly due to them breaking the promotion hub to honour the queen and not getting the expected number of players?

We’re just letting you know that we’ve paused our Battle of the Apex Predators Slots Battle.

What happens next?

We are looking to rerun this at a later date, where any stakes already made on the qualifying games during the initial promotional period will count towards the overall totals.

At what point do we stop calling it "gambling"?

 

[ESCJAMIE]

Its coming to a point where land based casinos have higher RTP then online somthing I thought would never happen

 

[slot_zombie]

Even Videoslots have it on 94%! Can go to 96%, at which point it probably becomes vaguely playable, albeit probably still quite an unpleasant pay profile and clunky reels/interface, as only SG/Light and Wonder can pull off.

 

[slot_zombie]

Not specifically about William Hill, but I heard that Elk are pushing for a maximum 94% maths model (see their upcoming Avalon Gold slot).

Soon be time to pack in, I think.

 

[jasonuk]

Now I understand why SG rebranded to Light and Wonder... Subbuteo Star Striker (slot) on William Hill at 88.88% ?

We expected the drop from 96-97 to 94-95 would open the floodgates... after many years of 95-96 being "the standard", some operators having blown through 94, 92, 91 and now 90 - it was only three weeks ago I mentioned Action Bank at 89.75%!

We noted the anomaly that online casinos were already offering lower RTPs than their physical counterparts, we're now passing FOBTs (which seem to be around 86-93% depending on stake?) and nearly at pub AWP randoms offering better percentages? What a joke ?

 

[Lucky Loser]

This is shocking. Please vote with your wallet to dissuade this type of profiteering behaviour. Just pure corporate greed. They rely on mug punters and will stretch it as far as they can.

 

[satchnz]

Avoid Elk slots too. They (currently) only offer one RTP version of their slots and this has been 94% for more recent releases.

 

[megadam]

Avoid Elk slots too. They (currently) only offer one RTP version of their slots and this has been 94% for more recent releases.

Actually ELK with the latest 94% releases offer them in what can only play as hot garbage 87% lmao.

 

[satchnz]

Actually ELK with the latest 94% releases offer them in what can only play as hot garbage 87% lmao.

Sorry, are you saying that Elk have 87% versions of their games or the 94%ers play like the are set at 87%?

 

[megadam]

Sorry, are you saying that Elk have 87% versions of their games or the 94%ers play like the are set at 87%?

Sorry meant to say their recent releases that have a top end 94% RTP like Buffalo Toro and Dropz actually have two RTP settings. 94% and 87%.

 

[satchnz]

Sorry meant to say their recent releases that have a top end 94% RTP like Buffalo Toro and Dropz actually have two RTP settings. 94% and 87%.

Which casinos are they at 87%?

 

[09237653]

Mr Green rocking 91% png games now, not that I even played them at 94%.

 

[anddi32]

Has anyone noticed that new BTG's RTP is less than default somewhere?

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

It’s very simple, just play at places where the game of your choice is on the highest RTP.

If you play at sites knowing full well your playing a reduced RTP version of a game you can play elsewhere at max RTP, then you are simply fuelling the fire.

It’s utter madness.

Maybe one day the so called ‘honest and genuine’ affiliates can point this out to the clueys they target who don’t have a scoobies.

Until the word spreads and people vote with their wallets it’s just gonna get worse.

If only we had some kind of governing body here in uk that would step up and make a minimum RTP a law so that players money could go further rather than worrying about auto play and quick spins.

Do we honestly think that if 95% was made the absolute minimum by the UKGC the likes of Hills, Sky, Uni, lads, corals, paddy etc etc would remove them all???? Of course they wouldn’t, they’d be shouting from the roof tops who put them back up to the max first and start a bidding war on promotional stuff to get you playing at their respective sites.

Until then, don’t give a coin to any of these greedy assholes running stuff on horse shit RTP.