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Random won on freechip

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by tat00, Aug 8, 2011.

    Aug 8, 2011
  1. tat00

    tat00 Experienced Member

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    ok so i got 25 dolalr free chip max cashout 125 now i know enough that even though i won random i will not get it. but what i dont understand where did that money go? after 2 hours later it still at 1k random . what happened to the rest of the 3k ??? where does it go ? floating somewhere in the casino air? is that not a buildup of players playing there with a small percentage going to random?

    also what ticked me off is that i knew i was guaranteed the max cashout of 125 . but i had it on auto and they automatically took out the 3k made me go down to 90 dollars with no warning or popup to let me know so my auto was continuing and now with 30 dollar check fee to withdraw i made 60 dollars wooooppppie
     
  2. Aug 8, 2011
  3. tat00

    tat00 Experienced Member

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    lol also now i can only cash out via chek and minimum to withdraw is 150 but max cashout on free chip is 125 whats wrong with this picture? slotastic
     
  4. Aug 8, 2011
  5. bpb

    bpb Banned User - repeated violations of rule 1.14 (tr PABnorogue PABnonaccred

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    The "." key seems to be broken on your keyboard.
     
  6. Aug 8, 2011
  7. Cleveland

    Cleveland Meister Member

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    I'm sure they probably "keep" it. I know a debate was going on about if this practice was fair are not. Because as you said the money is basically a % of each players bets. So by all accounts it should go back into the jackpot pool.

    But on a separate note:

    Are you saying you hit the random and they didn't apply it to your account? I know you can't withdraw it but I was under the impression that most places at least allow you to build up comp points from it. So say you hit a nice win but have a max cap on what you can withdraw, you're still able to play with the money and build up comp points. Then whenever you decide to withdraw they pay whatever the max cap was and remove the excess from the balance. In the end though you still have the extra comp points built from the nice hit. Sucks if they never even applied it to your account.
     
  8. Aug 8, 2011
  9. tat00

    tat00 Experienced Member

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    no they took it out automatically.........
     
  10. Aug 8, 2011
  11. SlotsLover

    SlotsLover Senior Member PABnorogue PABnononaccred3 MM PABinit PABaccred

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    random contributions

    It's true, they will "keep it." I guess that's just good luck for them. However, think of all the contribution to the random that comes from free chips. When a random is won with real cash, the casino loses all the contribution made from free chips as they have to pay this out. I think it all works out fairly in the end.
     
  12. Aug 8, 2011
  13. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

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    Now that this has made public Slotastic must do the right thing and put the money back into the RJ minus the new 1k seed money of course. All the contributions to the RJ came from a 1% reduced rtp for the player so should they want to have another go at it this shouuld be made possible and not confiscated. Otherwise, it is rogue behavior ie stealing from players.

    As for your 125 Tatoo, they should just send 150 to you with the extra money as a gift.
     
  14. Aug 8, 2011
  15. tat00

    tat00 Experienced Member

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    i agree with you but the funny thing is i cant cash out- as i live in usa. i only do cashier check but guess what minimum withdrawal is 150 imagine that

    here was the chat
    sl-tat00: so my question is
    sl-tat00: where did that money go its
    Caleb: the bonus is now finished. the bonus automatically reset to the amount you withdraw was $125 the 2495.75 was vioded
    sl-tat00: random is now at 1k not 3500
    Caleb: void it was voided
    sl-tat00: i understand i cannot win this
    sl-tat00: but where does it go /
    Caleb: it was voided
    sl-tat00: it is not fair that it goes back to 1k and noone can get this
    Caleb: once the playthrough is met it will automatically be voided
    Caleb: no one will get it
    sl-tat00: is it not a percentage of players who put into this random?
    Caleb: the rules advised you of this
    Caleb: it will not go to the jackpot
    sl-tat00: ok so on another note
    sl-tat00: it was auto matically reset
    Caleb: yes once you met the playthrough it is going to happen
    sl-tat00: well i had it on auto play and it is now down to 98 dollars after it finished and now i cannot withdraw the max like i planned
    Caleb: at the time it reset you were spinning
    sl-tat00: should there not be a pop up to let me know or something to avoid this?
    Caleb: thus using the 125
    sl-tat00: ok so how can i cahout this with cashier check since im in usa and u taking out fee for this?
    sl-tat00: ill get a check for 80 dollars?
    sl-tat00: is there a way to reinstate this as a reg deposit so i can continue to play?
    Caleb: you can play your balance to $125
    sl-tat00: without restrictions
    Caleb: you can then send a email to see if they will make an exception
    Caleb: no
    Caleb: it has to be cashout out
    Caleb: it is from a bonus the max is $125
    sl-tat00: what is the fee?
    Caleb: you cannot reinstate it because you haven't taken it out
    Caleb: the fee is $30
    sl-tat00: so 95 dollar win wow
    Caleb: from a free bonus
    Caleb: yes
    sl-tat00: hmm i dont care for these small no deposits u cant win much
    sl-tat00: ok thank you for your time
    Caleb: You're welcome.
     
  16. Aug 8, 2011
  17. pinkfloyd

    pinkfloyd Experienced Member

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    does its void mean a new ivory back scratcher for the management ?:rolleyes:

    well in this case we should see what the outcome is , casino with a good rep guess we will find out what happens to jackpots that cant be cashed.
     
  18. Aug 8, 2011
  19. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    That makes sense when you think about it.
    The play was on a free-chip, so actually the player was using the CASINO's money, not his own. So when big wins are hit, why shouldn't the casino keep it?
    After all, the casino is risking their money by giving free chips, so it does seem pretty fair to me.

    KK
     
  20. Aug 8, 2011
  21. missmichelle

    missmichelle Meister Member

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    I know when people hit a random from a free chip at inet, they put it back into the pot. It does take a few days but they always put it back.

    Hope you hit another one without a bonus!

    Michelle
     
  22. Aug 8, 2011
  23. Mousey

    Mousey Ueber Meister Mouse CAG

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    They'll probably put the RJ money back into the pot. The money you've won but can't withdraw (and the reason I won't even play free chips anymore) is also useless, UNLESS.... is there a casino rep for this casino? If so, maybe contact her/him, and ask if you can put the money into withdrawal... then have the casino put it back into your account clear of any WR and max cashout. Then at least, rather than playing the $125 off as play money (which is what it is now), you would have a chance to run it up to cash out level without being tied to the max cashout.
     
  24. Aug 8, 2011
  25. pinkfloyd

    pinkfloyd Experienced Member

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    sorry kk this is the one time i think i disagree with you
    the casino uses a $30 chip to get you logged in and tempted to play , its like happy hour at the pub , 2 for 1 meal at the pub or free entry to a night club its used to get you in so they can make more money .
    the casino wouldnt give away $30 free chips if it was costing them money in the long run .
    and isnt it the case in most gambling establishments that employees are not allowed to bet in their own business ? ( not sure with online tho )
    100 % of players not playing a bonus or a free chip put in 100% for that jackpot , a casino that takes money from players every spin , reinvests the players money by forking out a "free chip " once a month to have a shot at its own jackpot ?

    sorry that sounds wrong to me lol if the owners want a shot at a 3k jackpot , tell them to start an account at another casino lol
     
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  26. Aug 8, 2011
  27. Nifty29

    Nifty29 Dormant account

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    Really? :eek2:

    Wow. I'm speechless.

    The casino places max cashouts already on their free chips, so they end up not paying a fair chunk of winnings as it is.

    IMO it is incredibly unethical to not replace a jackpot if the player who won it was ineligible.
     
  28. Aug 8, 2011
  29. ksech

    ksech Dormant account

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    Stupid question(s) time...

    Does each RTG casino contribute a portion of "seed" money to these Random jackpots? So, once a RJ is won it affects ALL RTG casinos?
    (I never understood all of this and sorry for being so dense!)


    As an aside, if you are playing on a free chip, why wouldn't you check to see what the max cash out is and the max for each withdrawal method allowed to see if it's worth your while to even play the free chip? In this case, it seems the OP now has spent his time to earn "play money", since he doesn't have enough to cash out in his choice of withdrawal method. Maybe I'm reading this all wrong, but it would have been something I would have done to ensure I wasn't wasting my time.
     
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  30. Aug 8, 2011
  31. BingoT

    BingoT Nurses love to give shots webmeister

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  32. Aug 9, 2011
  33. takethemoney

    takethemoney Banned User - Chargebacks at Slotastic

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    At least the casino was honest enough to admit that the RJ is gone if it gets hit on a free chip.
    Will you play a free chip again after this? I probably wouldn't.
     
  34. Aug 9, 2011
  35. tat00

    tat00 Experienced Member

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    well im trying to understand why they even have a free 25 free chip in place if max withdrawal is 125 . and i cannot withdraw because cashier checks only is minimum 150 so there is no way for me to cash out that 125 in the first place
     
  36. Aug 9, 2011
  37. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    Maybe they do it on purpose to get you to deposit?
    After you finish the WR I presume you can deposit to bring your balance up to $150 or more, and then withdraw...

    KK
     
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  38. Aug 9, 2011
  39. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred

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    The free chip wasnt meant to suit a particular individual and many may withraw as little as $20 back to their e-wallet accounts. That's why I believe they should make an exception to your case and let you withdraw $150.
     

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