colinsunderland
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In QV all bonuses have to be wagered, so no disputes in this case I assume
Do all the slots contribute 100% to the wagering?
In QV all bonuses have to be wagered, so no disputes in this case I assume
yes, 100% is required. Except Jackpots.Do all the slots contribute 100% to the wagering?
In QV all bonuses have to be wagered, so no disputes in this case I assume
Unless something has changed.No, you didn't really answer my question - do you have excluded slots, and if so where can I see them?
What I meant by disputes is that if there is no list in the terms, players can easily open one up and full foul of the bonus terms.
Unless something has changed.
You basically have to make a 'blind' deposit.
Any games that are excluded from play with a bonus, only show your cash balance.
P.S. Bonanza is one of the many excluded games.
There is not only, no excluded games listed, but any reference to excluded games seems to have disappeared from the bonus T&C at all Skill-on-net sites
Yeah, that's what I discovered when I looked about too.
So in your example I like, Bonanza, see it's on their site and deposit thinking I'll take the bugger on with a bonus and then I will subsequently discover that I cannot play it using one?
That's nearly as bad as bait-and-switch IMO.
In that case their terms are unfair and prejudicial by way of being incomplete, which is legally not permissible and I fail to see while this prevails how they can pass accreditation.
There are some Skill-on-net casino though, who are accredited. Who now have the same bonus T&C.They aren't trying to be accredited. They just have a review and a rep here
I never said they were! I said that while these terms prevail that they couldn't pass accreditation, i.e. was providing some context to the deficiencies in the terms!They aren't trying to be accredited. They just have a review and a rep here
Review Updated: added UKGC and UK Players accepted .Yes, true. We do have UKGC license and accept players from UK. Thank you for the note!
Unless something has changed.
You basically have to make a 'blind' deposit.
Any games that are excluded from play with a bonus, only show your cash balance.
P.S. Bonanza is one of the many excluded games.
There is not only, no excluded games listed, but any reference to excluded games seems to have disappeared from the bonus T&C at all Skill-on-net sites
I never said they were! I said that while these terms prevail that they couldn't pass accreditation, i.e. was providing some context to the deficiencies in the terms!
I can see how you may have read it that way though as it infers somewhat that they are, or will do.
If the accredited Skillonnet casinos have indeed, as brianmon states, removed their excluded games from visible terms then that will need addressing as well. It's tempting players to sign-up with a bonus who may be intending to play certain games only to find after deposit that they cannot. Not good.
Actually there is a clause in the bonus T&C, (sort of) covering excluded games...
29. Players are allowed to play in any game while having an active bonus. In certain games bonus balance funds are not available to play with and when you open those games you will only see your real balance.
It's the same at Dreuck Glueck and Slots Magic, both of whom are accredited.
thank you for your kind "welcome"Its always nice to have a rep from casinos here so thanks for joining! Sometimes its nice for players to have someone to contact directly
Any feedback you get here dont take offense even though some of us can come on a bit strong. Hopefully your casino has an open mind and listens to the feedback here because this is the place to come for it. Most people know the ins and out and what it takes to be reliable and trusting casino so anything anyone is suggesting in here is nothing but good advice.
Thank you Jelena!Hey Kate
Welcome to the forum, so glad to see you here!
What makes it even worse is that Slots Magic and Drueck Glueck, who have exactly the same bonus T&C, are in the CM list of 'Top Certified Casinos' with scores of 9.1 and 8.7 respectivelyYeah, totally inadequate though from the point of view of a person thinking of joining the casino(s) and taking a bonus. Lack of specificity and detail - this information regarding excluded games should be provided to visitors up front as it could affect their decision whether to deposit or not. And therein lies the probable reason why it is missing....
Tirilej is correct in the fact the list is huge regarding disqualified and lower-contribution games as I remember seeing it before - it was a joke, tempting players in with a wagering requirement equating to 60xB or whatever and then finding a list 300-odd games that weren't Green Valley and only contributed 75% thus making the real wagering on games you actually wanted to play something like 80-90x !!
So to get around this disingenuous and misleading bonus offer they simply remove the list so you know nothing until you join and deposit and try to play them. Just brilliant, spiffing.
Hello. If this question was question addressed to me, it's already mentioned before by brianmon about the clause 29 in T&C. When you read and accept T&C by registering means you agree with it.So still no answer as to why you are concealing lists of reduced-contribution or ineligible slots from visitors before they sign-up, deposit and take the bonus?
Hello. If this question was question addressed to me, it's already mentioned before by brianmon about the clause 29 in T&C. When you read and accept T&C by registering means you agree with it.
Hello. If this question was question addressed to me, it's already mentioned before by brianmon about the clause 29 in T&C. When you read and accept T&C by registering means you agree with it.
Again, you haven't addressed my point and also made by one or two others here about entering the casino and depositing 'blind'. Just to re-clarify, that means game exclusions or weightings are NOT obvious in the terms and the terms are therefore unfair, incomplete and misleading and would undoubtedly fall foul of UKGC rules and Advertising Regulations. Other reputable casinos include this information openly for the same reason - it is not good ethically to entice players with bonuses without telling them up front on which games these can be utilized. Simply not acceptable in my opinion.
I am saying you are only doing this because previously myself and others have pointed out the misleading way Skillonnet sites offer a wagering i.e. 30x D+B whereupon the player then sees a ridiculously long list of 300-odd games that actually DON'T have the 30x D+B but a far higher WR. So in order you can still use the favourable 30x D+B in your 'hook' you simply removed the list altogether as if that somehow sorts the issue. It hasn't, but made it even worse. Whereas before it was simply misleading until the point the player became aware of this list, which they could BEFORE depositing, now it's misleading AND entrapment because the visitor or player cannot be availed of this vital information until they have joined and paid their deposit.
I think you know exactly what posters are getting at here yet choose to evade the obvious issue.
Aren't these blacklisted by the pogg with rouge terms and skill in net dodgy gambles etc?
Apart from their "questionable" bonus terms, there are also "questionable" worries about their affiliate system.
No proof, so I will not be making any accusations on this forum, but caution is advised.