Prism Defrauded Me

[glodge]

I second that one :yes: on ya CM!

 

[linda7]

Bryan I was shocked myself when I received that email. At first, I was just going to forward it to you. If I made an error by posting it here on the forum, please accept my apology.

***hugs*** Linda

 

[Casinomeister]

Hi Linda,

Don't worry. I edited out the details that should not have been shared with you to begin with.

This sort of behaviour is typical with Prism Casino.

 

[jinnia]

Just find one of Prisms other remarks they've made here at meisters, then copy/paste it here in this thread, for they all read the same old bull shit.

 

[pokermaven]

Most likely Bryan, they will never respond to this matter on here. They know they just defrauded a a player. What could they posibly say? In other words it has gone too far already. They could not exactly come on here claiming some rediculous financial processor delay, mainly because we would know that they are lying.

Unforunately, casinos such as Prism, are contributing factors to the new legislation in the U.S prohibiting internet gambling. While I do not support this legislation, I must say that if I was defrauded, I would want my country to step in. I would personally rather not play then get ripped off!

Prism Casino, you are a disgrace to the gaming industry and you should be ashamed of yourselves and your recent actions. It is in your best interest, to pay this person and make good on all of your cashouts. You accept money freely, and that's a fact. When you refuse to honor honest players' cashouts you are acting in a fraudulent matter. Do what is right, and just. Pay this player, and possibly your reputation can be redeemed. Otherwise, without customers visiting your site, you are sure to go under. I am sure many have read about this fiasco

The ball is in your court now!

 

[jinnia]

Sorry people, I'm gonna butt in here once again.

About having an ez board .. there's several on here that does.

Ok, reason why I'm butting in is, I am SICK of hearing about all the shit Prism/Virtual Casino does to their players and get by with it.

SO, I just spit out a letter to the White House (president@whitehouse.gov) in regards to all that has happened, and continuing to happen.

Explaining about players being defrauded, asking for information to the governmental body in Costa Rica where to file complaints as ones here, The National Gaming Commission.. etc...etc.

Once I get a reply back, if any of you are at all interested, I'll post it.

I was going to just call the White House, but I done that back in 1990 and my doctor looked at me as being totally nuts, I thought he was going to have me locked up for doing so .. hahaha, but, I got great help from them, and the situation at hand got taken care of.

 

[pokermaven]

The only thing that will happen by contacting the white house, will be more heat on the online gambling industry. Doubtful anything will get resolved about it. It's like what are you gonna tell them? Yes I play online gambling which may be illegal but I want the governments assistance. It is like a crack junkie who gets sold fake dope going to the police to complain about it.

 

[jinnia]

Personally, I've had enough of it, searching, sending emails here and there asking for information with no response. So, this way I just might get the information I'm seeking to file a complaint at the appropriate place.

And it is illegal on the federal level to place BETS online in the US, and it is by State law only if it is illegal to do any type of gaming online.

And yes, I have found out it is illegal in the State where I live, but if I take any type of fall for having done it, that's my situation to handle at time.

It's time people stop worrying about not being able to gamble online and make a stand against the crooks that operates an online casino/gaming business.

 

[glodge]

pokermaven,

I've got to agree with you on this one :yes:

The problem is there are crooks in this industry, we know there are...However complaining about them to Governments & so forth, IMHO is only going to screw it, and stop people being able to play at honest casino's too.

It has always been my view, that to stamp out these crooks that choose to operate in an unethical manner, we as a gambling community need to take a stand...

For instance if you see a casino that has a history or is associated to a dodgy casino operation, say something...Stand up from the crowd and YELL if you have to, but to say nothing is just compounding the problem.

Casinomeister, Spearmaster, Mary, Jetset all of those and more who have tried to stand up for the honest casino's and educate the online gambling community to the not so honest casino operations, simply can't get the message across to everyone...We, us, everyone needs to chip in and give a hand!!!

I also add that my stand on some ez boards is because of this exact problem...

I bet I could go right now, and find free coupons for Prism Casino & Virtual Casino posted on a number of ez board forums...So big deal they have a thing saying your wont be paid...

These places who allow this crap to be posted, are supporting these un-ethical operations...Just because it's a free coupon the casino still gains cash flow through the books from use of these...which gives the casino the ability to present figures to investors who they could probably screw over as well!!!

IMHO it's time to take a stand people...

 

[jinnia]

EXACTLY glodge!! Take a stand!!

And that is what I am doing by asking for information from who ever and what ever resource I can find and/or think of.

And about ezboards, you are correct on that.

As for the US government stopping online gaming, it won't/can't be done, possibly BETS on sports, but not the normal bj, slots..etc.
State by State it might be accomplished, by some, but not on the federal level.

Our Treasury Department is even helping....... before I say more and get it wrong.. I'll go get the link.. read for your self.

 

[jinnia]

here it is.. US helping Panama with online gaming.. don't want to read entire article, scroll about 2/3 way down ... this is about a 3 month old article::

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

 

[babysister]

Jinnia,
I can understand your point about contacting Washington. I have seen and heard about too many incidents of casino employees threathing players on message boards when they complain, directly calling them at home harassing them, giving out personal information and spamming them with porno emails.(this happened to me) and finally defrauding players out of money that they rightfully deserve thru winning. Some of these people think that they are just untouchable and can do whatever they please. They know they could not get away with this crap if they operated in the US. At some point in time, you just have to take a stand and say "Enough Is Enough" and do whatever it takes to put a stop to this negative and CRIMINAL behavior by the offending parties. It needs to be proven that players are not going to tolerate this type of behavior and it is totally unacceptable. I know if you boycott certain casinos, there will always be a few that would still patronage these known rogue operations and portals advertising them. Its all about greed and the all mighty dollar. Like Jinnia, I am so sick and tired of reading all of the complaints and frustration that players tell of. This has cause me to play less and less on line in the past year. I do not want to see online gambling banned, but there has got to be a way to weed out criminals that are operating these establishments if the US gov can't, then US players must intercede, take action and run these rogue operations out of business.

IMHO***I have been holding this in for a long time and this is the short version imo . prism, virtual, etc.etc.etc.

 

[babysister]

edited by me. sorry, double post.

(Message edited by babysister on October 25, 2003)

 

[jinnia]

Thank you babysitter. And I don't want to see online gambling stopped in the US, but why let these crooks continue their fraudulant behaviour just so one can gamble online?

As you said, Enough IS Enough, and I personally have had enough!!

I became so frustrated over not finding certain files that I even told everyone I had lied and apologized, just to back off and get a break. But files since found and I've rested from it all, and reading where these people 'CONTINUE' lying, defrauding, ignoring the players, I'm taking it as far as possible, even if it comes down to myself being questioned/charged/fined for playing online.

I'll answer to what may come around, and possibly, who!

 

[rowmare]

Just let me say that, as a Canadian, the thought of the U.S. government getting involved in another international issue is frightening! (no offense indended. Please don't hurt me!)


There will always be crooks in just about everything. Nothing is black and white. The grey area will be present among us! The best we can do is try to educate people, as some reponsible portal owners are doing.

As it is, anyone who gets scammed at a casino has themselves to blame, since the information is available, one only has to take the time to read it all and discern who is telling the truth (like casinomeister, here), and who is a banner-farm-lying-money-loving-crook.


If one isn't intelligent to tell them apart, then they should "PUT DOWN THE MOUSE AND STEP AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER!....before anyone gets hurt!".

Seriously, though, do we really want government involvement in everything? American 'rights' seem to be eroding away at an exponential rate lately, I don't think you need to ask for more to be taken.

 

[jinnia]

[color=0000ff]There will always be crooks in just about everything. Nothing is black and white. The grey area will be present among us! The best we can do is try to educate people, as some reponsible portal owners are doing.[/color]

That is correct, will always be crooks around. And you take one out, another is there. But I'm going to do what I can to try and take one out.

[color=0000ff]As it is, anyone who gets scammed at a casino has themselves to blame[/color]

Only in the sense of trusting a damn business in the first place. That remark pisses me highly. It's not like these forums has damn pop ups all over the place like online casino's do. You click on a web site, casino ads pops up everywhere, not gambling forums.. So NO, it is not the/a players fault for playing at a crooked casino due to not knowing of these gambling forums as a guide before hand. And where some gets burned, others don't.

[color=0000ff]If one isn't intelligent to tell them apart, then they should "PUT DOWN THE MOUSE AND STEP AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER!....before anyone gets hurt!".[/color]

Hey, life isn't all black and white, there are those grey areas among us and that area includes hurt also. So be it!!

I have not put down my mouse and walked away from the computer, and I have no intentions of doing so, and it seems as if you haven't either!

 

[glodge]

The reason I have a problem with ez boards is the following:

Link Removed ( Old/Invalid) >,--- Virtual Casino ---|

Link Removed ( Old/Invalid) >,--- cirrus casino ---|

Link Removed ( Old/Invalid) >,--- an affiliate for Largo ---|

Link Removed ( Old/Invalid) >,--- affiliate for Lazy Joker ---|

Link Removed ( Old/Invalid) >,--- affliate for Largo ---|

Link Removed ( Old/Invalid) >,--- cirrus casino ---|

Link Removed ( Old/Invalid) >,--- cirrus casino ---|

These are just a small sample of the forums I visted most are the big ez board gambling forums...

They all have enough Mods to make sure none of this crap is posted; Cirrus is owned by Virtual Casino Group.

But they choose not to. Some are promoting Largo Casino as well as Lazy Joker...

Both of these casino's are scum as well.

Obviously the owners of these forums don't give a toss about their members & guests, and are only driven by the mighty $

 

[rowmare]

Geez
I am getting the impression that, if one has the nerve to voice an opinion on this forum, the 'regulars' will attack full throttle.
I won't bother defending.
I guess we don't agree that people are responsible for themselves - let the buyer beware, and we don't need the government to interfere with every aspect of our lives.

Have a good one!

By the way, I wasn't refering to you, jinnia, I wasn't being personal at all. They were all general statements.
Can't say the same for your comments.
Not nice!
*sniffle*

 

[glodge]

jinnia,

Don't know if you realize but I've been at this exact thing for probably a good 2 years now ( gamblerslodge.com - no longer my site )...But people don't listen...Look at the Largo fiasco, the Cirrus Casino BS...and it simply keeps going...

People don't want to listen, of course until they get SHAFTED...Then they come crying to places like this hoping that someone can help them...

My personal view is, if people haven't got the brains to investigate who they are dealing with; not that hard to through a few keywords into a search engine; or the brains to accept what people are telling them, then maybe they shouldn't be gambling online.

As far as it being the anyone's fault other than the gambler, I find your reasoning sometimes very one eyed to say the least, no offense personally.

 

[rowmare]

Anyway, I was agreeing with glodge.
We need to stand up for ourselves.
What can the government do in one country, when the online casino business is global?

 

[rowmare]

*sigh*
glodge, you just repeated what i said, only in different words, then attacked me for saying it (or for not going on to blame dishonest casino operators in the same sentence):

You said: "My personal view is, if people haven't got the brains to investigate who they are dealing with; not that hard to through a few keywords into a search engine; or the brains to accept what people are telling them, then maybe they shouldn't be gambling online."

YES! exactly!!

"As far as it being the anyone's fault other than the gambler, I find your reasoning sometimes very one eyed to say the least, no offense personally."

I was not taking the blame away from dishonest casino operators, I just didn't mention them - and neither did you in your statement.

This forum has been hijacked by some regulars who tend to disagree - and even attack (I've seen it happen many times) anyone who posts a differing opinion, real OR imagined.

 

[glodge]

What can the government do in one country, when the online casino business is global?

Don't wish to thinking about that one...

 

[glodge]

rowmare,

Why do I get the feeling I just stepped into the twilight zone

I was agreeing with you; reiteration
does not carry a trademark; least not that I'm aware of.

As far as the the other tangent regarding your conspiracy theory...Your entitled to your opinion.

 

[glodge]

As far as it being the anyone's fault other than the gambler, I find your reasoning sometimes very one eyed to say the least, no offense personally

Just to clarify things, that opinion was not directed at you rowmare haser:

 

[rowmare]

My bad. It's almost 3:00 in the morning here - that's part of my problem.
Also, I've been screwing with html and all that b.s. for weeks, and my eyes are square.
I was a little upset earlier this week when a portal owner got dragged through the coals for using a free email account on this forum, among other things. I fully related to his explanation that he thought it would be bad etiquette to "spam" in another's forum.
I went and changed my e-mail on the forum just because of that mess! But I like having the forum come into my hotmail account! My server's e-mail box is sh**y, and I hate pop3. I think I'll stick my neck out and change it back.
By the way, in case you peek, my site isn't completed or even registered on search engines yet. That's my excuse, and i'm stickin' to it.