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Played back an already flushed withdrawal. Is that ok?

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by marioking24, Mar 21, 2013.

    Mar 21, 2013
  1. marioking24

    marioking24 Quit Gambling PABnononaccred PABnonaccred

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    Cottbus/Germany
    Hi Guys,

    I played at a very well known accredited Casino and was able to make a decent withdrawal (my first for a loong loong time), which knowing myself I immediately asked to be flushed. I did this on live chat and the withdrawal was flushed hassle free.

    I left a little bit of money in the account to be able to play a little more. I lost that very quick..

    I then went back into live chat and asked if the withdrawal, which was flushed could be out back into my account. Live chat did that within an instant. And I (obviously) played ait all back!



    Now I have never bitched about a loss, but in this case I feel that the casino should have protected me from playing it back.

    I always thought a flushed withdrawal couldn´t be reversed and I honestly don´t see the point of flushing if it can be reversed so easily.


    What do you feel? Should I ask the casino to reimburse my loss? Do you think I am just beeing a bad loser?

    Any input would be much appreciated!! :D
     
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  2. Mar 21, 2013
  3. missmichelle

    missmichelle Meister Member

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    Sorry to say, but I don't think they should reimburse you. You made the choice to ask them to put it back into your account. At least when you flush it is not available for you to reverse through the software, you have to take them time to contact them. That should have given you enough time to change your mind.

    We have all reversed our winnings at one time or another and I feel for you, but you did make that choice.

    Michelle
     
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  4. Mar 21, 2013
  5. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    My understanding is that flushed simply means it leaves your visible balance, and is shipped off to finance for processing. But that it's still your funds; not that it means it isn't usable or accessible upon request, just that it's not mingled in with your regular balance. ie a smart way of separating funds for the player so he knows what to play and what to wD.
    That being said, YOU opted to spend YOUR funds, and the casino didn't in any way entice you to to play it..they simply responded to all your requests. Removed from your balance? Ok, here you go. Put it back now in your balance? Ok, here you go. Seems to me they gave you EXACTLY what you asked for.
    If you personally can't hold off playing, try uninstalling the casino software.
    I'm sure others will chime in.
     
  6. Mar 21, 2013
  7. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    It's a slightly tricky one - but at the end of the day you can only blame yourself.

    Honestly, if you don't have the will power to leave a flushed withdrawal alone, I have to question whether you should be gambling online at all. Maybe try taking a little break from ALL gambling (couple of weeks at least) to reflect on exactly what you are trying to get from it and how best to achieve it.

    KK
     
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  8. Mar 21, 2013
  9. The Viking

    The Viking Ueber Meister MM

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    I am with Michelle on this, ive done this few times sometimes i win more sometimes i lose it all :) my fault and i get on with it and live another day to deposit :)
     
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  10. Mar 21, 2013
  11. Nifty29

    Nifty29 Dormant account

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    Is this a serious complaint/question?

    If so, then you need to stop gambling and get some help.

    I'm also sure that if they did NOT reverse your withdrawal you would have been here complaining about it too.

    Its nobody else's responsibility to "protect" you/"stop" you/wipe your botty. You're an adult. You lost your money fair and square and totally by choice.

    Time to move on.
     
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  12. Mar 21, 2013
  13. slotplayer

    slotplayer Senior Member webmeister

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    have to agree. you got to take responsibility.

    if you won off the flushed money you would not be bummed.

    learn for the next time, don't let the urge get the best of you.
     
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  14. Mar 21, 2013
  15. Deanna

    Deanna Senior Member

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    My thoughts exactly. I have never had the pleasure of being able to flush a withdrawal but I know that if I did, then decided I wanted to play with it I would be EXTREMELY mad if they didn't give it back to me asap.

    After all, it's MY money to do with as I wish. Right? Right. You gambled it, you lost it. I hate that for you but even remotely considering asking a casino for that money back is beyond ridiculous.
     
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  16. Mar 21, 2013
  17. just play

    just play closed account

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    Mario,

    Think about it this way. If everyone who reversed a withdrawal and then lost it, then asked for their money back, everyone would be doing it. I mean EVERYONE. It would be a win-win situation. I reverse a lot, but no way would I ever consider asking the casino for my money back, lol.


    If you honestly thought that, you wouldn't have asked. ;)
     
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  18. Mar 21, 2013
  19. cpdnd31

    cpdnd31 Ueber Meister CAG webmeister

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    May I suggest for next time flush and lock. If they don't lock uninstall casino. The reason behind this is you have to re install which takes some time and it may help you change your mind. When I win I play Facebook slots until I get my withdrawal from said casino. It helps pass the time. We have all learned are lessons the hard way especially in USA. When you have to wait a week sometimes to get paid the bug hits ya big time.

    One other thing I do is look at the things I need and or want with winning money. This way it keeps it in perspective for me.

    One other thing to remember your computer has a power button turn it off if needed.
     
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  20. Mar 21, 2013
  21. chuzzleaddict

    chuzzleaddict On a Break

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    Sadly, I'll have to agree with the others on this one - it's one of those things you just gotta accept responsibility for and move on. The chances are you'll have another good streak again to make up for it, its the way it goes. Just be careful if you feel any signs of addiction or lack of self control kicking in, those early warning signs are vital to not letting anything spiral. Sorry to hear about the bad run but it's all part of the experience, ups and downs. I agree perhaps it should not have been as easy to flush as it was, I too always thought that reversing a flush was not possible, as that's really the whole point of a flush - but by them doing so , they were only responding to your request as a client. Had you been a client with a gambling problem known to them (like having self excluded and then trying to reverse that) it would be a whole different matter, but sorry bud, I think this one you just have to put down to the experience.
     
  22. Mar 21, 2013
  23. Sovietsky

    Sovietsky Senior Member

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    And if you would win you wouldn't made a thread.

    I would not be surprised if someone made a new thread:
    "I won 500€ on casino but instead of withdraw I keep on playing until I lost it all, do the casino owe me money..."
     
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  24. Mar 21, 2013
  25. RikkiGT-R

    RikkiGT-R Non-Gambler

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    I'll basically reiterate what everyone else has said, and add that I don't even feel sorry for you.
    I'm not being mean, I just don't feel sorry for any gambler (even myself) who willingly deposits money in an online casino and then loses it. The fact you contacted CS and reversed makes me feel even less sorry for you, it was a totally conscious decision and you knew full well what the consequences could/would be. I also go along with the recommendation you give up gambling online for a while/for good, especially if it now results in you genuinely contemplating blaming the casinos for your own stupidity, born out of what sounds to me like a serious problem you could have.

    I would always recommend these guys:

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    You would never lose another penny again. Just think what freedom that could afford you :cool:
     
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  26. Mar 21, 2013
  27. akrus88

    akrus88 Experienced Member

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    I feel for you as reversed 500€ and lost it all earlier this week. But it only ones own fault :(.
     
  28. Mar 21, 2013
  29. slotplayer

    slotplayer Senior Member webmeister

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    I won the $23,000 off a $1k mg bonus a few years back and ended up with $14,900 of it after I came to my senses.
     
  30. Mar 21, 2013
  31. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

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    You lost your self-discipline my friend, and it sucks, it hurts but LEARN from it. They have a saying in football/soccer here - 'A team is at its most vulnerable when they've just scored'.
    In other words, you got confident, thought you were safe, and then in a blur your w/d has gone. Now you feel sick. I'm sure many of us have been there. If discipline is a big problem, don't gamble, because that sort of behaviour is indicative of someone who doesn't impose account limits, and who will chase losses.
    The casino owes you nothing. If it happens again, go on live chat and shut the account - this won't affect any w/d's in progress, or even self-exclude.
    In future go for a drive, dig the garden, clean the house or read a book after you w/d. Any distraction to put some distance between yourself and PC.
    Once you master not reversing w/d's, you WILL have some cash in the bank to treat yourself if you win.
    Try and pick casinos that have no pending period, like many bookmakers sites. Anything but go through this turmoil again.:(
     
  32. Mar 21, 2013
  33. skiny

    skiny Banned User - violation of <a href="http://www.cas

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    This is the first thing that came to my mind. If you were reimbursed for reversed withdrawals that didn't win anything you'd be playing risk free. You can't seriously believe in retrospect that you were gambling with no way to lose.
     
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  34. Mar 21, 2013
  35. chayton

    chayton aka LooHoo CAG PABnonaccred webmeister

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    Hey that just happened to ME! I wan't my money back. :p
     
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  36. Mar 21, 2013
  37. weesie

    weesie Ueber Meister

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    LMAO!!! If only!
     
  38. Mar 21, 2013
  39. nisosbar

    nisosbar Ueber Meister PABnonaccred

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    In my opinion, asking for a refund in this situation is an act that lies down the road paved with 'everything is addictive' and adults who want nannies to take responsibility for their decisions away from them.

    I'm sorry you reversed it and lost it, but you have zero basis for even considering asking for a refund. It's a hard lesson that most of us have learned, and sometimes struggle with, just as you did.

    There have been many good suggestions on this thread as to how to help prevent yourself from doing it yet again.

    Cheers.
     
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