Personal attacks need to stop.

[LaurieJim]

Funny you would mention that, I was just reading some of the old Pissed Off Club postings, nasty but good stuff!! FML

LMAO Your own siggy below reflects your above post

Nash was just speaking typical Nash speak.

This is so sad to see people act like this, i was looking at how long most of the posters have been on this forum and i wonder what a newbie would be thinking, reading some of these posts now

Those that have been here the longest should be leading by example the way one should act out on an open forum, instead of taking cheap shots at others, this is not cool and lacks of class and good manners.

Please dont bring the POC into this crap fest Nash, it has nothing to do with this thread or you for that matter

Laurie

 

[NASHVEGAS]

?gninniw ydobyna...thginot gniod enoyreve s'woh ,seimoH oY
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Just a big L.........Duke is a winner though.....Thanks for asking!!

 

[NASHVEGAS]

LMAO Your own siggy below reflects your above post

Nash was just speaking typical Nash speak.

This is so sad to see people act like this, i was looking at how long most of the posters have been on this forum and i wonder what a newbie would be thinking, reading some of these posts now

Those that have been here the longest should be leading by example the way one should act out on an open forum, instead of taking cheap shots at others, this is not cool and lacks of class and good manners.

Please dont bring the POC into this crap fest Nash, it has nothing to do with this thread or you for that matter

Laurie

OK!!

 

[WagerWitch]

You know what I've decided?

I've decided that I'm not wanted by the main group here...

So you know what?

I guess I can take my ball and play somewhere else.

Period.

I don't need to be treated like I was yesterday - and make no small assumption - I think what happened was total crap.

And you guys know what you did - and if you don't then you'll keep doing it.

I'm just a number in the list that you keep clearing out - and in a list of people that you'll keep playing these games with.

I'll post when I feel like it - glean info off of what I want... But Society on the forum? Hell no.

Not right now... Not when this type of behavior is acceptable.

Sorry - I don't deserve it - and I highly have lost respect for those involved.

You're right - WE AREN'T FRIENDS - and you know what - I don't want to be friends with people who think it's ok to do what you did.

I want no part of a group of people who feel it is ok to talk to others like that - or to play those kinds of games.

So sit there and smirk - because I don't think you're worth my time trying to sort out my feelings over the last 2 days with those posts.

I don't need that...

I wear my heart on my sleeve - and I type everything I feel.

And right now I feel as though I'm unwanted - and I feel like the actions that were taken - the posts that were made were unacceptable.

I want no part in a place where people are not only permitted to act that way - but it is encouraged by the THANK you button.

I'll take part of posts when I want... But I don't know if I'm going to want to - because OBVIOIUSLY I add too much --- and OBVIOUSLY annoy some people.

But I've just realized - you guys can go on patting yourselves on the back - Cause I'm not gonna be the one to pat you on the back.

I'm going to avoid you like the plague...

 

[bb28]

OK - let me try to explain this.

Because it was all _ UNDER THE RADAR - and had a lot to do with TIMING and Placement.

You want to play games -fine - game on - but you are the ONLY player... I'm not playing.



I'm telling you - YOU HURT MY FEELINGS with the way you went about things.

I don't care if you don't like me - but you don't have to play those types of games with me as I do NOT deserve them.

All of those involved put on a "HOLIER THAN THOU" - attitude - and you guys know exactly what you are doing... Unless - of course - you really don't know and you think it is acceptable behavior.

I'm sorry - I'm NOT the only person who saw what transpired and took it the way I did.

The only problem is that your back is so far hackled - that you're BLAMING ME FOR ME saying MY feelings were hurt... As if it is MY problem.

When instead - the polite thing to do would have been to stop... take stock and instead of pointing out MY faults (ie posting long winded posts - must be crazy to see the "things" I felt in those postings, etc.) maybe try to figure out HOW I could have possibly come to the conclusion that you were indeed singling me out and stepping on my toes.

And instead of pointing out ME --- why didn't you just say - Oh - hey - sorry - didn't mean to upset you.

Oh... see... cause that's not what someone who ACTUALLY MEANT to do what was done does.

Nope - instead they get defensive and call the other person crazy or point out their faults... Cause hey...

If you see someone else's faults - there is NO WAY that other people could POSSIBLY see yours.

I see... some kind of strange reverse psychology...

Yeah - well - sorry - I still stand by the fact that I've been here long enough to have been POLITELY talked to...

AND you guys really have run people off - whether you like it or not....

WW....Again I'm going to say this, there was no conspiracy, nor was there any games, the only game you are playing is the one you've made up in your head. Poor WW........you've been picked on, boo hoo, (at least that is what you want everyone to believe isn't it??

I did apologize to you, but yet you went on and on in post after post. I didn't insult you, I tried to remain calm and clear and for the most part I have.

Now others are on your bandwagon thanks to the picture you've painted and I'm the big bad bitch. So you got your feelings hurt......well maybe I did too by some of the things you and others have said, but I'll suck it up and I'm not going to bellyache about it on and on.

LMAO Your own siggy below reflects your above post

Nash was just speaking typical Nash speak.

This is so sad to see people act like this, i was looking at how long most of the posters have been on this forum and i wonder what a newbie would be thinking, reading some of these posts now

Those that have been here the longest should be leading by example the way one should act out on an open forum, instead of taking cheap shots at others, this is not cool and lacks of class and good manners.

Laurie.......apparently you think I take cheap shots and I have a lack of class and good manners. Thanks a lot for the compliment.

Please dont bring the POC into this crap fest Nash, it has nothing to do with this thread or you for that matter

Laurie

Just wanted to add something that you might want to think about WW. If you think that some of the people who are supporting you behind the scenes and egging you on don't have their own personal agenda going on, you should think again.

 

[chuchu59]

Funny you would mention that, I was just reading some of the old Pissed Off Club postings, nasty but good stuff!! FML

Ah, I assume you could read some of those posts because of a malfunction at CM some months ago. Yeah, one could let off much steam in the good ole club without hurting others' feelings.

 

[kakata]

WW....if I may....are you married?

 

[bb28]

Damn........I forgot to consult with one of my cohorts before I posted and I used a cuss word.

Yes I'm being a sarcastic bitch now!

 

[LaurieJim]

Bonita, i never said it was you, it wasnt in fact, that person has been banned for abusive words and others in the past who couldnt help but rip into other posters, its like they got a rush out of it, you do have class and manners but there are some that just dont.

Good lord, everyones got their panties all in a wad, posters gonna leave, people letting their emotions get the best of them, hell im taking a nerve pill and going to bed Im ready for this shit storm to end its ran its course and has done enough damage imho.


Laurie

 

[bb28]

Bonita, i never said it was you, it wasnt in fact, that person has been banned for abusive words.

Good lord, everyones got their panties all in a wad, posters gonna leave, people letting their emotions get the best of them, hell im taking a nerve pill and going to bed Im ready for this shit storm to end its ran its course and has done enough damage imho.


Laurie

OH........OK! Send me one of them there pills would you?

 

[kauphy]

You know what I've decided?

I've decided that I'm not wanted by the main group here...

So you know what?

I guess I can take my ball and play somewhere else.

Period.

I don't need to be treated like I was yesterday - and make no small assumption - I think what happened was total crap.

And you guys know what you did - and if you don't then you'll keep doing it.

I'm just a number in the list that you keep clearing out - and in a list of people that you'll keep playing these games with.

I'll post when I feel like it - glean info off of what I want... But Society on the forum? Hell no.

Not right now... Not when this type of behavior is acceptable.

Sorry - I don't deserve it - and I highly have lost respect for those involved.

You're right - WE AREN'T FRIENDS - and you know what - I don't want to be friends with people who think it's ok to do what you did.

I want no part of a group of people who feel it is ok to talk to others like that - or to play those kinds of games.

So sit there and smirk - because I don't think you're worth my time trying to sort out my feelings over the last 2 days with those posts.

I don't need that...

I wear my heart on my sleeve - and I type everything I feel.

And right now I feel as though I'm unwanted - and I feel like the actions that were taken - the posts that were made were unacceptable.

I want no part in a place where people are not only permitted to act that way - but it is encouraged by the THANK you button.

I'll take part of posts when I want... But I don't know if I'm going to want to - because OBVIOIUSLY I add too much --- and OBVIOUSLY annoy some people.

But I've just realized - you guys can go on patting yourselves on the back - Cause I'm not gonna be the one to pat you on the back.

I'm going to avoid you like the plague...

well i guess she thinks theres a click somewhere on this form as she stated the main group. you know weather ur friends or not weather you said something or you think you did,nt. someone got their feelings hurt and that would make most people feel bad. but this tread was started and now she got her feelings hurt even more. you know even my 4 year old knows to say i,m say i hurt your feelings even tho she did,nt do anything wrong but she still knows it not nice to hurt someone weather you meant to or not. i,ve had ww post on some of my treads and some of the things she said i did,nt agree with but i did,nt get nasty. you know some people don,t have thick skin and have a very hard life they come here to find friends and info on casinos. and maybe if they r lucky they make a few good ones. i know i have. so please step back away from the computer take a deep breath and know that this is not worth hurting someones feelings. be kind to everyone you meet you never know what kind of battle they r fighting. now shake hands and be nice.

 

[johnsteed]

***

Just a personal opinion here, not a professional statement, but I always had a problem with such statements about cussing, always seemed kind of stuck-up and 'I know better than you' to me.

I agree with the points that you've made, specifically with "performance art" and that doesn't quite translate online. I never tell anyone that they shouldn't swear, because I swear as well. I concur that it can be seen and taken as a stuck-up statement.



But the key points were 'humility','accountability' and having to 'resort' to foul language. Unlike at this site, I can think of a large number of websites out there, that let the foul language run wild. When the membership gets those kinds of no holds barred privileges, it can get pretty ugly pretty fast, specifically with the points that you made in mind.

... some folks of the doily set, or the preachy set, think they know what is best

Okay. Understood.




Steed


***

 

[LaurieJim]

OH........OK! Send me one of them there pills would you?

Only if i can pass them around to everyone, so calming and just makes you peaceful and stress free nope ya'll cant have none of my happy pills, its what keeps me sane lol im really really going to bed now, nite ya'll

Laurie

 

[maxd]

When the membership gets those kinds of no holds barred privileges, it can get pretty ugly pretty fast, specifically with the points that you made in mind.

Tell me about it! Some of you may remember my days at another gambling website and back in the day there our policy was anything short of gunshot wounds was fair game.

Bad idea! It's basically just a cheap and easy way to gain a vocal membership: quantity not quality, to say the least. In the end though it always gets you. Either the whole show goes down the toilet so badly that even the trolls get sick of it and move on, or you eventually decide to try and clean things up and find that your membership is now your enemy. Or both. Not good either way.

Ah well, live and learn. Of course I'm a kinder, gentler soul now and am devoted to my pansy garden.

 

[bb28]

Of course I'm a kinder, gentler soul now and am devoted to my pansy garden.

I don't have a clue what you look like Max, but the picture I have in my head of you tending a pansy garden.......gave me a great big laugh. Thanks.....I needed that.

 

[RobWin]

Why don't all of you guys chill for a bit and come help me pick on the Mods here...

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/avatar-abuse-by-mods.37194/
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[NASHVEGAS]

***







I agree with the points that you've made, specifically with "performance art" and that doesn't quite translate online. I never tell anyone that they shouldn't swear, because I swear as well. I concur that it can be seen and taken as a stuck-up statement.



But the key points were 'humility','accountability' and having to 'resort' to foul language. Unlike at this site, I can think of a large number of websites out there, that let the foul language run wild. When the membership gets those kinds of no holds barred privileges, it can get pretty ugly pretty fast, specifically with the points that you made in mind.







Okay. Understood.




Steed


***

Why am I thinking of Billy Martin and Earl Weaver??

I am member of two sports forums both involving the NFL. One is tightly moderated and on the verge of failure. The other is basically not moderated, very sucessful but makes the CM forum look like going to church. CM's moderation is somewhere in between, not perfect but better than the alternatives I have experienced.

 

[Jasminebed]

I realize each post stands on it's own merit and it takes only one post to damage.

That said, blame me for my initial post that was arrogant, sarcastic, opininated and factual among other descriptions. There was also a sincere apology (thus the two smilies) for my arrogance in this same post plus an acknowledgement that I could understand how one could be confused by the categories of The Rogue Pit in defense of Wagerwitch's possible misunderstanding(s) and thereby my possible incorrect insinuations.

After my initial post, I am not sure how you (or anyone else) can single out anyone. It took more than one party on what at times simply was absurd, insane and granted much more. There were voices of reason during the chaos including BB's (but that is JMO).

The above said, just for giggles, I did count (+ or-) the number of hanging chads aka number of posts that occurred in the two threads by the main culprits after my initial post less than 24 hours ago. The only conclusion from below, imo , is the finger can be pointed at all et al.

WW=40
BB=13
Pina=9
NashV=4
JSteed=4

Okay Nash, that is probably your most coherent post in months. That was kind of personal, but I mostly appreciate (if not understand) your posts.

WagerWitch, I missed that Nash was parodying your posting style, until YOU POINTED IT

Just Kidding, sort of.

My feelings were hurt here recently, so I can relate. But I think you take things on a much more personal level than they are meant.

BB asked if meister member affiliates should be held to higher standand, and I vote YES

Do I think meister affiliates should be barred for not holding higher standards than CM requires...NO.

Do I think any affiliate should be called out on who they promote? YES

Do I think affiliate should have a reasonable time frame to make changes to their sites? YES

Do I think many of us need a chill pill? YES

 

[bb28]

Okay Nash, that is probably your most coherent post in months. That was kind of personal, but I mostly appreciate (if not understand) your posts.

WagerWitch, I missed that Nash was parodying your posting style, until YOU POINTED IT

Just Kidding, sort of.

My feelings were hurt here recently, so I can relate. But I think you take things on a much more personal level than they are meant.

BB asked if meister member affiliates should be held to higher standand, and I vote YES

Do I think meister affiliates should be barred for not holding higher standards than CM requires...NO.

Do I think any affiliate should be called out on who they promote? YES

Do I think affiliate should have a reasonable time frame to make changes to their sites? YES

Do I think many of us need a chill pill? YES

Great post Jasminebed! And thanks for your answers to the question I asked that had completely been forgotten.


Off topic, but I had to smile when I read what you said to Nash......because I so agree. It was very clear and coherent. Keep that up Nash and you'll have to give your new siggy back.

 

[maxd]

I don't have a clue what you look like Max, but the picture I have in my head of you tending a pansy garden.......gave me a great big laugh.

My dear Pappy described me as being "built like a brick shit-house". So yes, Max + pansy garden = LOL.

 

[Simmo!]

This is a gambling forum...supposed to be adults on here. God, I speak harsher than that when I'm out at the grocery store and someone pisses me off.

Note to self. Remove Canada from World Tour itenerary.

I have been rude and sometimes it takes being rude to get through to someone.

Not sure about that one Jod. By getting through, if you mean pissing them off then yes it probably does I think if you want something done or changing, the LAST thing you do is be rude to the person you want to effect that. It's human nature - if someone's been rude to you you want to get them back.

I often shake my head when I see people being rude to waiters and waitresses before they've eaten all their food

Just a personal opinion here, not a professional statement, but AFAIC, cussing is a fine and healthy part of our shared English language.

Swearing is fine here at CM IMO - everyday stuff really - as long as it's within reason and not used in a confrontational way.

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There is one thing that causes all these problems: Confrontation. Take that out, you have a happier membership and things can get done. Throw it in and you get all your personal agendas, bitch fests and wasted time and much less gets achieved. Just try and avoid it if you can for everyone's sake.

 

[maxd]

Readers should note that Simmo is under review by the Vatican for being canonized and would be known thereafter as St. Simmo, Patron Saint of Happy Campers.

 

[chuchu59]

Readers should note that Simmo is under review by the Vatican for being canonized and would be known thereafter as St. Simmo, Patron Saint of Happy Campers.

Huh? I didnt know that a street would be named after Simmo. In Hong Kong, many streets are named after the governors of the colony

Okay Nash, that is probably your most coherent post in months. That was kind of personal, but I mostly appreciate (if not understand) your posts.

WagerWitch, I missed that Nash was parodying your posting style, until YOU POINTED IT

Just Kidding, sort of.

My feelings were hurt here recently, so I can relate. But I think you take things on a much more personal level than they are meant.

BB asked if meister member affiliates should be held to higher standand, and I vote YES

Do I think meister affiliates should be barred for not holding higher standards than CM requires...NO.

Do I think any affiliate should be called out on who they promote? YES

Do I think affiliate should have a reasonable time frame to make changes to their sites? YES

Do I think many of us need a chill pill? YES

This is exactly what most posters should be doing. Answer the questions dammit. However, I dont agree with Jazzy's last answer. I would say NO, at least 3.

 

[Simmo!]

Readers should note that Simmo is under review by the Vatican for being canonized and would be known thereafter as St. Simmo, Patron Saint of Happy Campers.

Gonna form a band called the Self Righteous Brothers. Whaddya think?

 

[maxd]

Huh? I didnt know that a street would be named after Simmo.

Obviously I meant "Saint" Simmo, smarty pants. oke:

Happy Campers = Happy Moderators

True that!

 

[ksech]

Wow, there's lots of "heat" in this thread...
I was going to post earlier, but needed time to think through how I wanted to relate my thoughts (plus needed time to fix my typos ).

When reading the CM/OCR debachle, one of my first thoughts was...
YIKES! So much HATE.

People need to remember, we are ALL sensitive, feeling human beings. Words CAN be mightier than the sword, double edged and all. Once submitted and read by others, you can't take back the bite. When reading what other posters type, you can not hear the inflection in voice as you can in speaking in real time one on one. You can't see the body language behind the typed words.

When I read a post I think may be insulting, I go back and read it again with a different mindframe. Sometimes I can relate, others I come out with the same initial feelings. It's okay, we are all entitled to our opinions.

Bashing one another accomplishes little and requires too much negative energy. There are many on here I love to read, although I may not always agree. That's my right. There are some on here I avoid like the plague. That's my right too.

My posts may not always be clear (I've been accused of being mentally unstable sometimes in real life LOL cause I CHOOSE to work overnights dealing with people who at times are a completely different species of the human race). I try not to take things too personally, cause I don't really know you. BUT, I tend to take things at face value as constructive criticism. We can all learn from each other. If we were all the same what a boring world this would be...

So please, can we get back on track and start posting about things this forum was created for?

 

[maxd]

Gonna form a band called the Self Righteous Brothers.

Sounds great! Sign up on Da Chozen label and get the 'Bountiful Blessings' back-up singers and I think you'll have it!

Actually beginning to sound like a high-concept p0rn0 now that I think of it.

 

[Pinababy69]

Note to self. Remove Canada from World Tour itenerary.

I often shake my head when I see people being rude to waiters and waitresses before they've eaten all their food

LOL Simmo...I just saw your "hidden" message when I quoted your post.

And I just wanted to clarify something. Reading your comment about waiters/waitresses, I had a chuckle. I WAS a waitress/bartender for around ten years. And trust me, I was on the receiving end of the "shit stick" many times. And I stood there and took it (the majority of the time). The only time I reacted was when it became overly abusive, and I had the high sign from my boss. I knew the guy was on his way out anyway, so a few times I would proceed to tell him (it was usually always a "him") exactly what I thought of him. But that rarely happened. Sometimes humour could diffuse a bad situation...he'd call me a bitch, I'd tell him I could change my personality, but when he woke up tomorrow he'd still be married, and miserable. I know that sounds nasty, but it's all in the delivery and nine times out of ten, it would get a laugh from him, and his buddies. And we'd come to an "understanding". That I wasn't gonna take his shit...so go and be miserable to someone else.

And when are people ever going to learn that you should never, ever, ever...under any circumstances....piss off the person in control of your food and drink.

When I said I speak harsher at the grocery store...here is a perfect example. Some will find it okay/funny...others won't. That's fine.

I had to go to MoneyMart the other day, Thursday before the long weekend. And it was packed. At least ten people in line and only one cashier on. The lineup was to the door. I'm about sixth in line, and patiently waiting my turn, just like everyone else. In walks Joe Blow off the street, and rather than joining the end of the line, up he strolls right to the front, and stands next to the lady being waited on at the cage.

I'm watching in disbelief, and waiting to see if he's actually gonna have the cojones to attempt to get his business taken care of, ahead of everyone else. Well, he did. Just shoves his body right in front of the first person in line, and starts yabbering away. The cashier is completely dumbfounded and much too polite (I know her, nice girl) to say anything. I look around at everyone else, and no one knows what to say, or wants to I guess. So, me being me, I yell out "excuse me sir, the end of the line is back here". He ignored me the first time, so I said it again. He finally turns and looks at me, and says "oh, I'll just be a minute". I knew right then this wasn't going to end well. My reply... "I don't care if you're going to be here til the next millenium, the end of the line is back here". He turns around again, and gives me a look like....well, I don't know. Like I had a piece of cow shit stuck to my forehead or something. So then he tries to play the innocence card, proclaiming that he didn't realize there was a line.

I asked him where his seeing eye dog was, because only a blind person would not have been able to see the line...I mean come on. What did he think the ten people inside the store were...the audience? So, unwilling to give up, and hellbent on being served...his next excuse was that there were no signs signifying where the line began. OMG...by this time, I'm getting pissed off. And the cashier is now trying to tell him that he will have to wait his turn, as were a couple of the other customers....also pissed off by the extra delay. So then I ask him (in my best Andrew Dice Clay) impression..."what did you think, the front of the line was back here, and we're all standing backwards"?

I guess by this time he realized he wasn't going to get "served" and gathered up his papers and started towards the door in a huff, muttering as he went past me "meddling bitch". So in a nice, clear loud voice I told him "back at ya, ASSHOLE"!!

That is what I meant when I said that I speak harsher than that at the grocery store. Doesn't happen everyday, nor very often. But stuff like that does happen. And I don't stand idly by and keep my mouth shut. I try polite first...if that doesn't work, I'll say what I feel needs to be said.

I really had an epiphany when I read through this thread this morning. As long as there are those who felt that post that JP quoted was "mean" in tone, and those of us who felt it was totally fine...there is always going to be confrontation here. I am being 100% truthful when I say I am absolutely shocked that ANYONE could find that offensive or mean in any way.

 

[Pinababy69]

Of course I'm a kinder, gentler soul now and am devoted to my pansy garden.

For those of you not able to visualize Max in his garden. Sorry, couldn't find pansies, exactly.

 

[maxd]

That is what I meant when I said that I speak harsher than that at the grocery store. Doesn't happen everyday, nor very often. But stuff like that does happen. And I don't stand idly by and keep my mouth shut.

Good story Pina!

I tend to have a pretty thick head -- crap at learning foreign languages, still avoiding doctor visits, etc -- but one lesson that I have learned in my adult life and never forgotten is you get what you settle for.

My wife, for instance, is too kind, always tries to accommodate. Half or more of the time people still treat her like shit though, they just do it with a pasty fake smile on their face.

People seldom smile at me -- pasty or otherwise -- but they don't treat me like a doormat very often either.

On the other hand where there is confrontation there is often an asshole involved. If you're in it up to your eyeballs it's always a good idea to take a step back and ask yourself who the asshole is. It might be you, it does happen, and if it is well perhaps it's best to bow out gracefully and yield the field.

You pays your money and you takes your chances I guess.

 

[maphesto]

* * * *

This thread is one of those few anger threads where the popcorn taste is bad.

Usually these kind of threads escalates in some banned users after calling each other c-words and equals..

Don´t get me wrong, I don´t want more banned users. I just say that the first 6-7 pages were boring and things from the 4.4 rule-thread continued.

Is it really that hard to ignore things or users?

And I am in no way pointing this to certain individuals, but if you feel that it was pointed at you... ....maybe you can consider letting the computer rest for a while..

Readers should note that Simmo is under review by the Vatican for being canonized and would be known thereafter as St. Simmo, Patron Saint of Happy Campers.

It´s nice to see that you have had a happy easter holiday Max!

You probably saved this thread.

 

[maxd]

For those of you not able to visualize Max in his garden. Sorry, couldn't find pansies, exactly.

Probably a little more like this I'm afraid:

 

[Pinababy69]

Good story Pina!

I tend to have a pretty thick head -- crap at learning foreign languages, still avoiding doctor visits, etc -- but one lesson that I have learned in my adult life and never forgotten is you get what you settle for.

My wife, for instance, is too kind, always tries to accommodate. Half or more of the time people still treat her like shit though, they just do it with a pasty fake smile on their face.

People seldom smile at me -- pasty or otherwise -- but they don't treat me like a doormat very often either.

On the other hand where there is confrontation there is often an asshole involved. If you're in it up to your eyeballs it's always a good idea to take a step back and ask yourself who the asshole is. It might you, it does happen, and if it is well perhaps it's best to bow out gracefully and yield the field.

You pays your money and you takes your chances I guess.

I'm a Taurus Max, need I say more? I am the BULL to the max.

Re: the bolded part...that is pretty much me to a tee. I refuse to be treated like a doormat, or be a victim.

My ex was like your wife. Wouldn't say shit if he had a mouthful of it, not in public. And he'd actually be embarrassed if I ever said anything "out loud", or called attention to anything publicly. But man, when he got home, then the frustration would fly...while I was happy as a lark, lol. When I'd ask why he wouldn't just say what was on his mind...he said he was brought up that way..to not say anything I mean. He's European (Italian to be exact)...perhaps just a different culture, I don't know. I just don't understand allowing people to walk all over you, without voicing your opinion. Or just not voicing your opinion, period.

As to the last part of your post...no doubt I've been an asshole AND a bitch many times in my life. Wasn't trying to imply that I'd be applying for sainthood any time soon. We'll leave that to Saint Simmo, patron saint of blue muppets.

 

[Pinababy69]

Probably a little more like this I'm afraid:

Well Max..you're very, ummmm......errrrrrr, eh, lemme think......imposing, that's it!! Yeah imposing.

And since when do you garden pansies with a sledgehammer? Might explain the bad crop this year.

 

[maxd]

Hope you didn't thing the A-hole bit was directed at you Pina. Mostly just reflecting on past experiences, often where I got to wear the 'Big A' badge.

 

[Pinababy69]

Hope you didn't thing the A-hole bit was directed at you Pina. Mostly just reflecting on past experiences, often where I got to wear the 'Big A' badge.

Nope, not at all....just reflecting, lol. And my badge has a big, capital "B".

 

[maxd]

And since when do you garden pansies with a sledgehammer?

Hunting gnomes, or forum trolls as the case may be. Look at his belt.

 

[Pinababy69]

Hunting gnomes, or forum trolls as the case may be. Look at his belt.

OMG..lmfaoooooo!!! Never would have seen that, had you not highlighted it. So much for that coffee, and my monitor.

Thanks for the laughs Max....hiss, boo...I have to go do some actual work now. But I'm gonna tell all those people who said you had no sense of humour how wrong they were.

P.S. - Joke in case anyone didn't get it.

 

[kakata]

Pina...are you sure your ex was Italian?...and if so...from where in Italy?

 

[maxd]

There seems to be quite a few mods on this forum and should a post look to be personally attacking another member, then the thread should be deleted, the poster then warned or banned straight away.

I suppose after all the monkey business it wouldn't hurt to respond the actual topic at hand.

I've been moderating online gaming forums for almost a decade now. If there is one thing I can say about it it would be that is far, far more an art than a science.

Hard and fast rules about this or that kind of post generally just don't work. It's a world of greys and exceptions, not good guy VS bad guy, black-and-white stuff. Sure, there are the odd obvious examples you can point to but generally everything has to be taken in context.

• Is the 'attacker' responding to a perceived attack?
• Do these people know each other?
• Will the other readers call them out on it?
• Are they deliberately provoking the reader or are they not so much aware of how it could be taken?
• Are they a native English speaker and fully aware of how what they are saying might be taken?

It might sound like a lot of mumbo-jumbo but many times these are legitimate questions, and all part of the Moderator's job. And for the most part the readers are not here to hear from us Mods, they want to talk to each other, so as a Mod you have to choose your moments or risk becoming a forum nazi that everyone gets real tired of real quick.

And all confrontations are not created equally: what might be completely out of line in response to a newbie might be every day's bread and butter for the old forum hands. In fact you are as likely to piss of the regulars for interfering as you are to be protecting the innocents by stepping in.

Truth is few folks appreciate an over-moderated forum. That's just as effective a way to lose your readership as under-moderation is, in many ways more so. If people feel they can't speak their mind because of overly reactive moderation they're outta there! Trust me: been there done that, not so keen on a repeat performance.

So yes, of course keeping things from getting out of control is a must, and even a bit of a tight rein to keep things civil is sometimes called for. but less is usually more for this kind of thing, believe it or don't.

And as far as "delete that thread" goes, very touchy business that. Experienced mods generally limit outright deletions to the spammers and the hate mongers. Beyond that "zap this" and "zap that" is usually a very bad, wholly counterproductive idea.

As to "quite a few mods on this forum" you might have a mistaken impression. See the I-Gaming Forum Reps list, we're listed up near the top, "Administrators" and "Assistants", all three of us + Bryan, our fearless leader. Vortran is a muppet, Bryan's robo-monkey, and doesn't count.

 

[just play]

What happened to the original question? (the affiliate question the bb28 asked and then chuchu changed a bit) Is that thread still locked? I answered it and was looking forward to the conversation about it.

Here is something that might make sense....I'm very particular about my food (has to be cooked right/look right, or I wont eat it) My husband is very picky about food (doesn't like a bunch of items)

Whenever I say "I'm not eating that" he will roll his eyes at me, then I will say "ok, let me go get some olives for you to eat" He HATES olives. Then he gets my point.

We all have different tastes/feelings/thick skin/thin skin. It doesn't make one person good and one person bad, it just makes us different.


Max could you re-open or start that thread again, I think it would be a great topic to discuss.

 

[maxd]

Max could you re-open or start that thread again, I think it would be a great topic to discuss.

Sorry, what? where? Point me at it!

 

[just play]

Sorry, what? where? Point me at it!

WW started a thread about affiliate questions (that is now locked) then all the hoopla started, and that conversation never took off, but in that thread there was a question.....

Very Good ChuChu...........and I agree. So now the question is....Active affiliates here at meisterland should not promote casinos that are on CM's rogue list........agree or disagree?

Edit...just wanted to add, I'm not an affiliate so the original thread wouldn't be interesting to me, (although I would like to see those questions be answered) but the above question does interest me.

 

[Pinababy69]

Pina...are you sure your ex was Italian?...and if so...from where in Italy?

He's still Italian, far as I know Kakata.

He's from Sicily...that is part of Italy isn't it? Or is it considered separate? Why the rolly eyes? What did I say wrong now?

 

[kakata]

He's still Italian, far as I know Kakata.

He's from Sicily...that is part of Italy isn't it? Or is it considered separate? Why the rolly eyes? What did I say wrong now?

....cause is very unlike an Italian ( specially a southern) to act the way you described him.
Well...very unlike for me.

 

[maxd]

WW started a thread about affiliate questions (that is now locked) then all the hoopla started, and that conversation never took off, but in that thread there was a question..

This one?: Affiliate Questions, et al

Sorry, had forgotten about that, re-opened now.

 

[Pinababy69]

....cause is very unlike an Italian ( specially a southern) to act the way you described him.
Well...very unlike for me.

Ahhh gotcha Kakata. Yeah, I always thought so too. He could be hot headed...but mostly would keep it private. Didn't believe in doing/saying anything publicly. Which of course would frustrate him more...and so on, lol.

Not just you...I've seen other Italians as well (live in a predominantly Italian neighbourhood)..who are very "animated" in public, lol. I know it's all in good humour...but man, when you get about ten together at the same time, all trying to have the last word, it's comical. I've worked at bars/social clubs where the older Italian men in the neighbourhood would gather for their nightly espressos/capuccinos....nuff said. Super guys, but very loud and very EXPRESSIVE!!

I don't see a thing wrong with that at all.

 

[kauphy]

Probably a little more like this I'm afraid:

rotflmao i bow to you oh king of the troll hunters:notworthy

 

[NASHVEGAS]

Ah, I assume you could read some of those posts because of a malfunction at CM some months ago. Yeah, one could let off much steam in the good ole club without hurting others' feelings.

Do not assume anything, just the facts. That said, I will PM your exact quote (not the paraphrase from memory as I PM'ed to you last night) which I was originally referencing in my post.

Per Bosslady's instructions, I will not mention any of the other POC postings at CM.

Good stuff, your friend Nash.

 

[Uther]

I had to go to MoneyMart the other day, Thursday before the long weekend. And it was packed. At least ten people in line and only one cashier on. The lineup was to the door. I'm about sixth in line, and patiently waiting my turn, just like everyone else. In walks Joe Blow off the street, and rather than joining the end of the line, up he strolls right to the front, and stands next to the lady being waited on at the cage.

I'm watching in disbelief, and waiting to see if he's actually gonna have the cojones to attempt to get his business taken care of, ahead of everyone else. Well, he did. Just shoves his body right in front of the first person in line, and starts yabbering away. The cashier is completely dumbfounded and much too polite (I know her, nice girl) to say anything. I look around at everyone else, and no one knows what to say, or wants to I guess. So, me being me, I yell out "excuse me sir, the end of the line is back here". He ignored me the first time, so I said it again. He finally turns and looks at me, and says "oh, I'll just be a minute". I knew right then this wasn't going to end well. My reply... "I don't care if you're going to be here til the next millenium, the end of the line is back here". He turns around again, and gives me a look like....well, I don't know. Like I had a piece of cow shit stuck to my forehead or something. So then he tries to play the innocence card, proclaiming that he didn't realize there was a line.

I asked him where his seeing eye dog was, because only a blind person would not have been able to see the line...I mean come on. What did he think the ten people inside the store were...the audience? So, unwilling to give up, and hellbent on being served...his next excuse was that there were no signs signifying where the line began. OMG...by this time, I'm getting pissed off. And the cashier is now trying to tell him that he will have to wait his turn, as were a couple of the other customers....also pissed off by the extra delay. So then I ask him (in my best Andrew Dice Clay) impression..."what did you think, the front of the line was back here, and we're all standing backwards"?

I guess by this time he realized he wasn't going to get "served" and gathered up his papers and started towards the door in a huff, muttering as he went past me "meddling bitch". So in a nice, clear loud voice I told him "back at ya, ASSHOLE"!!

This is so full of chuckles, I'm glad I read through the whole thread now.
Clever sarcasm works far better than plain insults imo... wp Pina