Personal attacks need to stop.

I am writing this because I am just fed up with going on casino related forums to find one member personally attacking another. Private matters should be kept private and not sprawled across forums like graffiti.

Issues with casinos are fine, that's why this forum was created, but attacking other members and calling them anything under the sun just shows the intelligence level of some members.

These slagging fests that start should be nipped in the bud immediately and to a certain extent the mods should jump on this immediately rather than let it string on. There seems to be quite a few mods on this forum and should a post look to be personally attacking another member, then the thread should be deleted, the poster then warned or banned straight away.

I find it hard to believe that certain threads can go on for such a long time before posters are banned and feel that some these threads are just used as entertainment value for the masses.

Most, if not all forums state that that sort of behaviour will not be tolerated but unfortunately it is......for a bit. I hope this changes.

 

I think it is more insidious than that.

I think what happens is that people forget the difference between right and wrong.

I think... and this is just me... that people become de-sensitized to the situation because they've seen it before and well nothing happened.... so why should they bother.

I think - and again this is only my own personal thoughts on this matter - that people have become more prone to enjoying the dramafest - than regulating humanity within the forums.

That's not to say I haven't been "bad" or anything - I certainly have stepped on people's toes... But I admit my mistakes and I do mean well... And I do try to learn from my mistakes.

I also try to NEVER hurt people. I'm not perfect -but I believe most of the time I live my life that way both online and off.

I am wordy - which can irritate people - but that is what forums are for - are they not? To communicate. Some people say "Yes." Some people say "Yes, but I think...." Me... I say "Most of the time yes... sometimes maybe and sometimes no and here are the reasons why.... etc." LOL!

I know my faults.

But the last three days now have been undesirable for me - and the desired effect of these posts were to MAKE ME GO AWAY...

Plain and simple.

Not one person stood up for me - and that hurt my feelings beyond belief. I know I can't possibly be the ONLY person to have seen the attacks.

Still - I was even more amazed that the moderators didn't see the posts as the attacks they clearly were... Which I don't understand.

Have they become so used to that being the "NORM" around here?

Bashing people? Not their words mind you - BASHING THE PERSON.

OK - not outright bashing - but underhanded cuts and snipes - which come on people... you know as well as I do that is EXACTLY what they were...

And I'm not the first person it has happened to.

No -- seriously - I'm not going to do the work for you - go do it yourselves - go read past posts...

Go on... spend some time in it... Unless you already observed it first hand...

I just can't believe all the people I have dealt with all of these years literally stood by quietly during this.

I'm shocked a little and hurt a lot.

 

Interesting.

I think it's because it has happened before and nothing was done. And even currently it's being "pooh poohed" off as if it was NO BIG deal.

But it was a big deal to me.

I mean - don't get me wrong - I can handle my own... And sheesh - Simmo - If it gets THAT bad - I can ALWAYS (grin) Out type anyone on this forum with the exclusion of JHV...

Perhaps my style of posting irritates some - but realistically that has never been grounds for the situation that has occurred in the last couple of days.

In my humble opinion MY situation started with the WANNABET POST - to the 3dice post by Funeral (who we made up by the way) - and then I posted an affiliate question - which got completely derailed --- and then the 4.4 post...

I mean - it's a lotta reading - but if you know the background on folks - and you know the comments made - then you get the picture.

I cannot - and am not the ONLY person who sees it.

And I was shocked at the lack of response.

Probably because people got that deer in the headlight look - or maybe the popcorn tasted really good - I dunno.

But what I do know is that if this is NORMAL behavior and acceptable behavior then I am not sure what I think of that.

I believe it was a organized group of "we're gonna do this to this person"...

Call me paranoid if you will - but then go read the comments - and then --- take a day to read thru those SAME people comments -- to others - and where those people are now... hmmmm methinks most are gone - or they've slipped under the "PROTECTION - OF THOSE WHO FORCED THEM THERE" THUMBS...

I'm not about to be forced to do anything I don't believe in.

And I'm not gonna take being treated like dog meat by someone because I refuse to bow down to them.

IN all HONESTY - I truly appreciate you locking the thread - because it wasn't going to go anywhere... It would be one person saying "get your head together - you're crazy - nothing was said about YOU" and me saying "yes there was - and I'm not crazy I'm also not stupid... " and so on and so forth.

You're absolutely right - I have 2 or 3 choices - I can leave and say no sweat off my figurative testicles... or I can stay and keep trying to be ME... or I can try and stop this from happening to ME again by confronting and dealing with it - and putting it out for everyone to see...

Remember - some of it has to do with timing... So - if you don't get the concept completely - but can feel it a little bit... You're missing the timing element...

ANYHOW - thanks for trying to understand it...

I'm sure there are other points of view - but right now I can only see my point of view.

Not that I think I'm perfectly right - but I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I am not ALL wrong.

 

I agree with the original poster. This snipping at each other has got to stop. I personally am getting pretty fed up with reading about people making jabs and rude comments, some being down right nasty. When it gets personal, that's enough.

Let's get back to the purpose of this forum and quit the other crap.

 

Webzcas said something in a thread that alot of people should always remember and adhere to but dont before they type, behind a computer is a live person.

A computer can be a powerful tool or it can be used as a weapon by some to be hurtful and spiteful without giving cause that the someone who sits there reading that computer screen has feelings and emotions as well.

I think your a great person and poster WW and we can agree to disagree on certain things as no two people think alike, this is a good thing imo.

Whats not good is to get caught up in a feeding frenzy brought on by some and that can be due to a fault in human nature as we all have been guilty of it at one time or another and if i for one have hurt your feelings in any way, im truely sorry, im trying to picture the person behind the keyboard from now on

Laurie

 

I agree with OP as well, and I already stated in another thread....

/opinion

 

Aggg posting from bed on cell... LMAO can't sleep anyways.

Thank you much.

I agree so much about being able to debate and share opinions without personal hurt... and that everyone has feelings behind the computer screens.

And hells no I don't want everyone thinking the same way as my opinion.. I would never learn anything.. I love a good debate or conversation where people have differing opinions and share them. OPENLY. Without the need to be ridiculed.

Ok really I have to close my eyes now...

But EVERYONE. Know this... I think we should be a community controlled by caring friendship... hospitality... kindness.... instead of being driven by anger hatred and vindictiveness...

I think I am part of this communty for we are not just CM but gamblers online...

 

I don't even know where to start......but I'm hoping I can convey my thoughts clearly.

First off........about the mob mentality that Wager Witch insists there is That's total BS! WW is the one who kept insisiting that it was a personal attack and it clearly was not and I think anyone could see that had she not kept insisting that it was over and over and now it's the poor me thing, others are picking on me. When I started that thread last night I should have titled it differently but it was not aimed at her, it was a question posed to players and affiliates but because of the title of it, there she went.....on and on in post after post defending herself and going on and on about some personal attack. It just was not true......wasn't then, and its still not today.
This is all a big bunch of shit!

Is it a mob because you agree with someone or you thank their post because they have made some points you agree with? Mob mentality my azz and yes I happen to agree with Lisa/Pina and others on a lot of things does that make us a mob, no, does that make us like minded and having similar views, yes I guess it does, but last time I checked, that isn't a crime nor is it breaking the rules here. Who the hell has time for kindergarten games. I don't. Am I outspoken sometimes, yes sometimes I am, do I piss people off sometimes, yes I'm sure I do, but its not because of some personal vendetta, I've got better things to do. I have an opinion and last time I checked it's OK to have one even if it isn't the popular format or god forbid it might hurt someone's feelings. I don't try to be downright mean and snooty about it, but there are times when someone needs to say what others are thinking but they won't say it because they don't want to ruffle feathers, so excuse me for not being PC enough in this post.

 

I have hesitated in responding to this because I did not want to contribute to the shitstorm and I am not really up on all the issues with the people invilved, etc.
However, I did want to say that what Pina posted about the rule and rogue sites and affiliates seemed pretty rational and fair to me.
AGAIN, I do not know the background of the peeps involved or if there were ulterior motives or whatever.
But to me it seems logical if a casino is rogued (or on the rogue page for whatever reason) you probably should be wary of linking to it. If I was an affiliate maybe I would feel the same as Witch and wait and give the casino a chance (it is business after all), but I don't think I would have gotten so angry about the rule being brought up.

 

I'm glad you read Simmo's post right above yours.


This is what is going to happen now...the people that were saying insulting stuff to other people will come here and try and place blame like they did nothing wrong. "It was just my opinion, I have an opinion too, I'm allowed to agree with others" etc. etc. etc.

That my dear is Total BS

 

Sorry I'm not in on the love in or the group hug. Want to show me the post where I insulted WW? BTW.......I did apologize to her when she felt that I singled her out even though I didn't. This has gone beyond that and there have been some pot shots taken at me in this thread, so what do you think I'm supposed to do, not say what I think and feel?

 

I don't want to get into it, just re-read your above post.

 

I see it, but it might not be the same one you see.

 

ummm yes


Was reading another thread and this was said. It's certainly true for this medium; it's spot on

There are times when peeps get hot under the collar and things get said, insults fly and it turns into a flame feast. Get a couple of 1000 peeps all with different opinions and someone is going to misinterpret a post(s).

Unfortunately that's the nature of the beast.

IMO you can set a forum up with every safe guard imaginable but people have personalities they are not robots.


Cheers



Dave

 

I realize each post stands on it's own merit and it takes only one post to damage.

That said, blame me for my initial post that was arrogant, sarcastic, opininated and factual among other descriptions. There was also a sincere apology (thus the two smilies) for my arrogance in this same post plus an acknowledgement that I could understand how one could be confused by the categories of The Rogue Pit in defense of Wagerwitch's possible misunderstanding(s) and thereby my possible incorrect insinuations.

After my initial post, I am not sure how you (or anyone else) can single out anyone. It took more than one party on what at times simply was absurd, insane and granted much more. There were voices of reason during the chaos including BB's (but that is JMO).

The above said, just for giggles, I did count (+ or-) the number of hanging chads aka number of posts that occurred in the two threads by the main culprits after my initial post less than 24 hours ago. The only conclusion from below, imo , is the finger can be pointed at all et al.

WW=40
BB=13
Pina=9
NashV=4
JSteed=4