North Korea and US politics

[mack341]

Who's defending this senseless violence? I've heard many condemning it tonight on CNN of all channels

Most that are involved in the Antifa movement are anarchists, they thrive on chaos and disruption.

Other than that there's a bunch of thugs abusing the situation. The REAL protesters have usually gone home by the time the rioting starts.

The CNN guy the other evening said it was largely a peaceful protest, which just encouraged more to join it, there's been violent criminal acts going on from day 1, but they wanted to gloss over that, until no longer possible. And cable TV has helped to create these hysterical youngsters, whipping them up for 4 years with TDS.

I have a sense some left-wing people sympathise with the [politically motivated] violence; also the mob's casualness and preparedness to do it would have to mean within their mindset it was acceptable, and you don't get to that stage overnight.

What kind of a 'law abiding/non violent' message has the left [ through its media and politicians] been encouraging and sending out to them over the years, can't have been much.

Those people in that video looked like protesters to me rather than those just interested in looting. I accept though there are protesters trying to stick to peaceful methods.

 

[sufferinsilence]

The CNN guy the other evening said it was largely a peaceful protest, which just encouraged more to join it, there's been violent criminal acts going on from day 1, but they wanted to gloss over that, until no longer possible. And cable TV has helped to create these hysterical youngsters, whipping them up for 4 years with TDS.

I have a sense some left-wing people sympathise with the [politically motivated] violence; also the mob's casualness and preparedness to do it would have to mean within their mindset it was acceptable, and you don't get to that stage overnight.

What kind of a 'law abiding/non violent' message has the left [ through its media and politicians] been encouraging and sending out to them over the years, can't have been much.

Those people in that video looked like protesters to me rather than those just interested in looting. I accept though there are protesters trying to stick to peaceful methods.

 

[mack341]

Good on them, wow they didn't like that guy, was he antifa I wonder?

I take it he was trying to dislodge bricks from the pavement, that's one of the better twitter accounts breaking911 watched a few on there.

Who was the guy at the end, weird shit he was dressed up in, started berating the cops and trying to reach hammer man, someone posted underneath jokingly calling him captain antifa

 

[Harry_BKK]

Nazis, White Supremacists, Right-Wing Nutters -"Fine People"
Antifa and Left-Wingers - "Terrorists"

Those few words from Mr T show clearly who and what he is and explains the systemic problem in the US which is a century-old issue.

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Need to add another Mr T quote:

Nazis, White Supremacists, Right-Wing Nutters -"Fine People"
People demonstrating and entering the Michigan parliament house with loaded automatic rifles: "Good People"
Antifa and Left-Wingers - "Terrorists"

Demonstrators held off some 300 feet from the White House: Mr T runs into the bunker!

 

[sufferinsilence]

Good on them, wow they didn't like that guy, was he antifa I wonder?

I take it he was trying to dislodge bricks from the pavement, that's one of the better twitter accounts breaking911 watched a few on there.

I don't wonder if he's antifa or a neo-nazi, I applaud the fact the protesters who're trying to do their thing peacefully turn the guy over to the police to deal with him.

 

[vorcirion]

And this is coming from republicans

 

[Steviedoo]

The CNN guy the other evening said it was largely a peaceful protest, which just encouraged more to join it, there's been violent criminal acts going on from day 1, but they wanted to gloss over that, until no longer possible. And cable TV has helped to create these hysterical youngsters, whipping them up for 4 years with TDS.

I have a sense some left-wing people sympathise with the [politically motivated] violence; also the mob's casualness and preparedness to do it would have to mean within their mindset it was acceptable, and you don't get to that stage overnight.

What kind of a 'law abiding/non violent' message has the left [ through its media and politicians] been encouraging and sending out to them over the years, can't have been much.

Those people in that video looked like protesters to me rather than those just interested in looting. I accept though there are protesters trying to stick to peaceful methods.

Are you kidding?

you think this is TDS.
name me one Democrat who encourages violence. Just one.

and I can show you trump’s twitter feed these just in the last three days alone where he encouraged and invited violence. Maga night. All from the underground bunker. What a coward. He has yet to address the nation who is in turmoil. I’m pretty sure He is playing just like Putin wants. It’s in the Russian playbook.

his inaugural speech had the words amaerican carnage in it.

He thrives on chaos.

every single situation he has found himself in as president he has made it worse. Never better. Just give me one example of a crisis where he has made it better. None.

If by some miracle he doesn’t cancel the elections further dismantling this country and he doesn’t cheat cuz he’s already setting it up that to make it look like if he loses it was cuz the Dems cheated. He will not go peacefully. And he will not go to the inaugural address for the new president. there will be no peaceful transition.

this man is a destructive force.

he has yet to say one thing to help calm the wave of destruction.

normally a president would have come out on live TV and addressed the nation.

he has done nothing.

America finds itself without a leader.

he thought a mask would make him look weak. Yeah. He’s encouraging violence from the underground bunker through Twitter.

this sums it up. He turned off the lights. No one home.

 

[Harry_BKK]

No words needed!

You can always opt to watch the entire video. The part I am referring to starts at 04:09

 

[Kroffe]

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"
And while it is deranged to equate Trump with Hitler, it’s the sign of a sound mind to be alarmed at his seeming indifference to foreign meddling in our democracy, his callousness and fearmongering on immigration, his hostility to a free press and to our traditional allies, his incessant lying and bullying, and his impulsively vindictive eruptions on Twitter.
The true Trump Derangement Syndrome loose on the land is the delusion suffered by those who still think he’s going to make this country a better place for average people."

 

[Kroffe]

Lets keep going with Our planet since Netflix has been kind enough to upload the full episodes to youtube.
Lets go water-themed today.

 

[Steviedoo]

President Trump made 19,127 false or misleading claims in 1,226 days

I think it’s called lying.

 

[Harry_BKK]

The CNN guy the other evening said it was largely a peaceful protest, which just encouraged more to join it, there's been violent criminal acts going on from day 1, but they wanted to gloss over that, until no longer possible. And cable TV has helped to create these hysterical youngsters, whipping them up for 4 years with TDS.

I have a sense some left-wing people sympathise with the [politically motivated] violence; also the mob's casualness and preparedness to do it would have to mean within their mindset it was acceptable, and you don't get to that stage overnight.

What kind of a 'law abiding/non violent' message has the left [ through its media and politicians] been encouraging and sending out to them over the years, can't have been much.

Those people in that video looked like protesters to me rather than those just interested in looting. I accept though there are protesters trying to stick to peaceful methods.

Referencing the congressional report from 2019. So please stick that "leftist, left-wing etc" stuff where the sun doesn't shine!

Deleted the excerpt as I cannot confirm the source. Might spend some more time on it later.

 

[mack341]

name me one Democrat who encourages violence. Just one.

That is a long post, with several points and questions, if I can I will reply further, but the quote above needs addressing/clarifying.

Do you mean a democratic politician in a speech/interview?

My post said I felt some left wing people were being sympathetic to the violence and I queried the type of message the left through its media [or even the media] and politicians has been conveying to this lawless youth over time.

This was in reference to that twitter video of a mob chasing down 1 man with a MAGA hat and attacking him, screaming get the nazi or something. And as someone had pointed out on twitter if it was in reverse and the man had been a black man with a white mob attacking him, the response in the media would be totally different.

[ a side point it was filmed in south carolina, which I might be wrong but from memory you grew up in carolina? ]

For the mob to have seen that as acceptable behaviour, part of political protest, somebody has told them that or encouraged it, look at the million man march I mentioned, no violence from what I can tell, why the difference?

Because the rules have changed, some of these are radicals and they employ violence, and are very intolerant to any opinion that does not follow their orthodoxy. It's not healthy or good behaviour from either side of the spectrum of politics.

 

[mack341]

Congressional report from 2019. So please stick that "leftist, left-wing etc" stuff where the sun doesn't shine!

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Antifa are dangerous in my opinion, from the bits I have seen, some members are extremely violent. The retard excuse talking to CNN carries around a knife and pink knuckle dusters:

 

[mack341]

Referencing the congressional report from 2019. So please stick that "leftist, left-wing etc" stuff where the sun doesn't shine!

Deleted the excerpt as I cannot confirm the source. Might spend some more time on it later.

Tbh ted cruz's application must've fallen on deaf ears and not get anywhere in the senate. The organised part is where they are going to be in trouble, I don't think a far right group has been involved in multiple riots across many states and cities on the same night. [not in recent times anyway]

Also it's the agitation part, encouraging and influencing other groups of citizens to commit crime, the far right groups don't do this as far as I know.

several clips on twitter show piles of bricks in locations where you wouldn't normally find a stack of loose bricks, almost as if someone has placed them there for the protestors to increase the chance of store windows being smashed and then looting...

 

[vorcirion]

Tbh ted cruz's application must've fallen on deaf ears and not get anywhere in the senate. The organised part is where they are going to be in trouble, I don't think a far right group has been involved in multiple riots across many states and cities on the same night. [not in recent times anyway]

Also it's the agitation part, encouraging and influencing other groups of citizens to commit crime, the far right groups don't do this as far as I know.

several clips on twitter show piles of bricks in locations where you wouldn't normally find a stack of loose bricks, almost as if someone has placed them there for the protestors to increase the chance of store windows being smashed and looting...

Do you think Trump is doing good job with protests? Does he show some kind of leadership?

 

[mack341]

Do you think Trump is doing good job with protests? Does he show some kind of leadership?

what would you want him to do, the investigations of the policemen are going ahead, the civil rights issue is going to be looked into. People keep conveniently forgetting minnesota is a democrat controlled state, the police chief is black, has he not failed as well.

The protesters despise trump and think his presidency is illegitimate, so nothing he says as a leader will make a difference to that. I don't know why he doesn't let mike pence speak some more, but maybe it would make him look like the president instead.

Republicans might begin to feel trump has failed to rein it in, or they might accept it was an impossible situation to handle, 'least said soonest mended' also comes into it

 

[vorcirion]

what would you want him to do, the investigations of the policemen are going ahead, the civil rights issue is going to be looked into. People keep conveniently forgetting minnesota is a democrat controlled state, the police chief is black, has he not failed as well.

The protesters despise trump and think his presidency is illegitimate, so nothing he says as a leader will make a difference to that. I don't know why he doesn't let mike pence speak some more, but maybe it would make him look like the president instead.

Republicans might begin to feel trump has failed to rein it in, or they might accept it was an impossible situation to handle, 'least said soonest mended' also comes into it

Quite a leader then...not even trying Just hides in his bunker. Mr. bone spurs in action again...total coward!

 

[mack341]

Newt is a sensible man, considers the issues thoughtfully :

 

[Harry_BKK]

Antifa are dangerous in my opinion, from the bits I have seen, some members are extremely violent. The retard excuse talking to CNN carries around a knife and pink knuckle dusters:

 

[Harry_BKK]

Tbh ted cruz's application must've fallen on deaf ears and not get anywhere in the senate. The organised part is where they are going to be in trouble, I don't think a far right group has been involved in multiple riots across many states and cities on the same night. [not in recent times anyway]

Also it's the agitation part, encouraging and influencing other groups of citizens to commit crime, the far right groups don't do this as far as I know.

several clips on twitter show piles of bricks in locations where you wouldn't normally find a stack of loose bricks, almost as if someone has placed them there for the protestors to increase the chance of store windows being smashed and then looting...

 

[Harry_BKK]

Newt is a sensible man, considers the issues thoughtfully :

 

[mack341]

Quite a leader then...not even trying Just hides in his bunker. Mr. bone spurs in action again...total coward!

some of the fox presenters have asked about him doing a national oval office address, if he does and the riots carry on [which they might if the police continue to standoff] it looks like he is ineffective, or he makes a speech and it causes even more triggered youth to riot. I'm sure he is taking advice on what is the best approach.

 

[mack341]

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I'm wondering does the size of the emoji signify a scale of disagreement, as this one is the smallest and newt's is the biggest ? [ ]

 

[vorcirion]

some of the fox presenters have asked about him doing a national oval office address, if he does and the riots carry on [which they might if the police continue to standoff] it looks like he is ineffective, or he makes a speech and it causes even more triggered youth to riot. I'm sure he is taking advice on what is the best approach.

Hiding in a bunker is the best approach? Alrighty. He could always resign and let someone else handle his job since he clearly doesn't want to do anything except inciting more violence.

 

[mack341]

even this protester knew it was odd, calling it a setup

 

[pinnit2014]

You know Harry's harbouring feelings of incandescent rage when it's single eye rolls and no words.

 

[Kroffe]

Antifa are dangerous in my opinion, from the bits I have seen, some members are extremely violent. The retard excuse talking to CNN carries around a knife and pink knuckle dusters:

Didnt see any outrage when the crazies stormed the capitol building in michigan with rifles.
But a knife and a knuckleduster is dangerous? =)

 

[Harry_BKK]

Mr T unconsciously giving away in his Tweet outbursts what he is made off, racist to the core.

- when the looting starts, the shooting starts
- vicious dogs

Anyone can google what those words mean in US history. The number of people of colour in his cabinet can be counted on one hand. Plus, the quotes I posted earlier re: "fine people".

Each and every one of his cronies is blaming it all on Antifa even when local law enforcement say in press conferences time and again that right- and left-extremists are to blame. None has said Antifa.

Same same CON FROM THE DON. Blame, blame, deflect, deflect and ... "I take no responsibility."

 

[Harry_BKK]

And he's still in the basement!

Mirroring Kroffe now. He never said anything about arresting the crazies occupying the Michigan capitol building armed to their teeth. They were "good people" but people of colour demonstrating largely peaceful are "jerks" and "thugs".

 

[vorcirion]

And he's still in the basement!

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Mirroring Kroffe now. He never said anything about arresting the crazies occupying the Michigan capitol building armed to their teeth. They were "good people" but people of colour demonstrating largely peaceful are "jerks" and "thugs".

Let's just arrest Trump and protests will end instantly. Will change into celebrations. I think US has had enough punishment for a decade. They need some relief from this idiotic right-wing.

 

[mack341]

Didnt see any outrage when the crazies stormed the capitol building in michigan with rifles.
But a knife and a knuckleduster is dangerous? =)

you don't think a knuckle duster and knife that can be concealed are dangerous..hmm

edit: and did tucker do a show where he goes to meet those men, do a soft interview and say oh I love these guns give me a break

You might also want to look up the 'puget sound john brown gun club' if you're interested in people carrying guns and you oppose that:

 

[vorcirion]

you don't think a knuckle duster and knife that can be concealed are dangerous..hmm

Trumpsters learning from ISIS or what's going on?

 

[Kroffe]

you don't think a knuckle duster and knife that can be concealed are dangerous..hmm

I was more questioning why there was no outrage from you when the people stormed the capitol building with their rifles.
Is it not as bad when its confederate sympathizers & KKK members?
I just think it seems weird that you get all worked up over a knife and a knuckleduster but had no comments on the crazy people with rifles.

 

[Kroffe]

 

[Kroffe]

you don't think a knuckle duster and knife that can be concealed are dangerous..hmm

edit: and did tucker do a show where he goes to meet those men, do a soft interview and say oh I love these guns give me a break

You might also want to look up the 'puget sound john brown gun club' if you're interested in people carrying guns and you oppose that:

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He didnt meet up with them, but he seems to applaud their actions.
When it suits whats hes trying to push, that is..

 

[vorcirion]

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Awesome peace deal by Trump. So much winning! Trump really can bring people together. He could act as a cupid or something...Al-qaida and Taliban unite!
But let's worry about the real terrorists here...I mean Antifa is dangerous with their sophisticated weaponry and all.

 

[mack341]

He didnt meet up with them, but he seems to applaud their actions.
When it suits whats hes trying to push, that is..

One contradiction in what 10 years of broadcasting, if it even is a contradiction that is, because without
watching the full original clips and reading the 2011 background I don't know how big the difference is; he has owned up to getting the iraq war wrong, whilst many others who pushed it still haven't.

 

[mack341]

I was more questioning why there was no outrage from you when the people stormed the capitol building with their rifles.
Is it not as bad when its confederate sympathizers & KKK members?
I just think it seems weird that you get all worked up over a knife and a knuckleduster but had no comments on the crazy people with rifles.

I was more interested in reading up about covid 19 and HQC at the time, I vaguely saw clips but I didn't follow any commentary on it. I presumed it was a farming/rural district so they had a lot of licensed guns for hunting or whatever they do. Did they break a law, their faces were on tv, maybe they should be arrested, I honestly don't know.

[The american civil war is a big subject, ken burn's civil war doc is worth watching.]

I didn't really get worked up about the knuckle duster etc.., it's just wrong, I expected some antifa to carry weapons, I wasn't surprised by that but the tv interviewer's response is just so lame and retarded. you couldn't make it up, hence tucker showing it.

 

[Kroffe]

One contradiction in what 10 years of broadcasting, if it even is a contradiction that is, because without
watching the full original clips and reading the 2011 background I don't know how big the difference is; he has owned up to getting the iraq war wrong, whilst many others who pushed it still haven't.

Yes, that is Tucker Carlsons only contradiction..

 

[mack341]

Trumpsters learning from ISIS or what's going on?

looks like he slowed down and stopped for the last person who was still in his way, then the mob descended and try to attack him ?

It's like that bleeding zombie film, day of the dead.

 

[Kroffe]

Atleast then the driver would be safe if he was a trump-supporter.
Zombies tend to go for brains.

 

[Kroffe]

Speaking of zombie movies.. i was planning on watching a movie later, and it might aswell be a zombie one for all i care.

So anyone got any tips for good zombie movies?

 

[sufferinsilence]

A couple of Trump tweets from the past, maybe he should re-read them and apply to himself:

 

[dionysus]

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[vorcirion]

have have been posted already, apologies if so

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Whoever did that first autopsy should be investigated if (s)he tried to cover up the murder.

 

[mack341]

Speaking of zombie movies.. i was planning on watching a movie later, and it might aswell be a zombie one for all i care.

So anyone got any tips for good zombie movies?

I got my romero zombie movies mixed up earlier, dawn of the dead has the trucks, both are worth watching though if you haven't seen them:

 

[Mouche12]

Speaking of zombie movies.. i was planning on watching a movie later, and it might aswell be a zombie one for all i care.

So anyone got any tips for good zombie movies?

World War Z, top cast, and some great scenes in Jerusalem.

 

[Kroffe]

I got my romero zombie movies mixed up earlier, dawn of the dead has the trucks, both are worth watching though if you haven't seen them:

Not sure ive seen dawn of the dead.
Will download for safekeeping.

Had this great collection of old horror movies on a dvd-box i got one christmas many years ago.
The original "I am legend" is pretty great. =)
Think its from the 50s or 60s.

 

[Borgie]

Not sure ive seen dawn of the dead.
Will download for safekeeping.

Had this great collection of old horror movies on a dvd-box i got one christmas many years ago.
The original "I am legend" is pretty great. =)
Think its from the 50s or 60s.

Is that the one with Charlton Heston?

There's a 2004 version of dawn of the dead too.