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Also I’d not say far right so much..
Our mass murdering German friends back then had socialist/commy views...
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Our mass murdering German friends back then had socialist/commy views...
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Actually, regardless of their supposedly 'commy views' (incidentally the Nazis killed many Germans who were communists and everyone else not agreeing with their dangerous views)..., the roots underlying the rise of Hitler and his fascist party can be found at least a century before that... with nationalism (against which Goethe had warned over and over again).
Everything starts small.
The Nazis, in their opinion, defended their thought, their culture, their perspective of religion against what they considered to be the enemy...
There is freedom of religion in Europe. What do you mean by defending?
Bigotry always spreads much faster than peaceful dialogue.
Everything starts small.
The Nazis, in their opinion, defended their thought, their culture, their perspective of religion against what they considered to be the enemy...
There is freedom of religion in Europe. What do you mean by defending?
Bigotry always spreads much faster than peaceful dialogue.
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By defending I mean Christian values and ideals.
And the repression of Islam across europe. Let’s be totally honest, how many Islamic members do we have here whom regular take part?..
I’ve worked on the oil rigs years never met one..
Unless you want taxi or kebab they offer nothing generally speaking.
Also your long post holds no weight regard my earlier response.
I’ve not defended the nazi party or tried to, I almost certainly don’t need a explanation of what they did.
Again someone taking out of context what a nazi actually is.
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I think nationalism always carried a bit more potential for conflict in europe because there were only land borders, and so you had disputes about boundaries etc.. And it was the leaders and aristocracy who always started the wars not really the average person with an allegiance to his country of birth.
Hitler used politics as a platform to mobilise an army etc.. he removed the democracy from 1933 I think and gave himself dictatorial powers, whereas the conservative parties gaining support in Europe are all based on popularity at the ballot box. I don't think any are advocating military action. It's actually the EU, which the new left and liberals seem to support, that wants a new army that can reach into places like north africa.
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The parallel is that by analogy the Nazis had similar sentiments (but then on a much larger, and evil scale) about other peoples, in that they "didn't generally contribute much either", like you suggest is the case for British citizens devoted to Islam, other than the average taxi driver or kebab seller.
I don't imply at all that you want to start a war or kill people. But how should I interpret your statement of "the repression of Islam"? Hopefully not in the manner the Nazis once did with regard to "the repression of the Jews".
I don't imply at all that you want to start a war or kill people. But how should I interpret your statement of "the repression of Islam"? Hopefully not in the manner the Nazis once did with regard to "the repression of the Jews".
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Best to either be well off or poor in the US. Middle class are shrinking because while raises are now rising, they are not keeping up with inflation.
Well off people can absorb rising costs, poor people are eligible for government benefits.
Its a mathematical certainty, if inflation is 3% a year and a workers pay raise is 2% a year their standard of living will decline.
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I don't think he wants to repress it, just doesn't want to expand it into his yard.
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And trump talking to Putin about how it was a Russian hoax. When it’s been proven by our intelligent agencies they interfered in the 2016 elections on his behalf.
Again, he chooses another country over ours.
Again, he chooses another country over ours.
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Finally there's something I agree with Trump/Pence...back to the moon and more money to NASA *\o/*
I don't know if republicans want any votes from women. They've really been watching handmaid's tale and learning how to do things from it
At least so far Trump hasn't used his skills as a businessman and ruined US economically...but he's really trying!
I don't know if republicans want any votes from women. They've really been watching handmaid's tale and learning how to do things from it
At least so far Trump hasn't used his skills as a businessman and ruined US economically...but he's really trying!
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I'm not sure man ever put a foot on the moon in the first place, it was part of a propaganda battle against the commies, to show them the USA was more successful and advanced
It looks far too 'tin foily' and fragile to survive space travel, the van allen belt etc
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I'm not sure man ever put a foot on the moon in the first place, it was part of a propaganda battle against the commies, to show them the USA was more successful and advanced
It looks far too 'tin foily' and fragile to survive space travel, the van allen belt etc
They tried to make it so life like and real, they sent them to the moon to make it look more real.
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I've just looked up the distance to the moon 384,000 kilometres, so there and back 768,000 kms, do you really believe this vehicle could fly that massive distance, also land and take off etc...sorry silly question of course you do
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It seems atm man cannot travel through the van allen belts but somehow managed to do it fine 50 years ago with old 1960's technology 
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during my lengthy and extensive research of the moon landing [10 mins this morning 
] the date 1969 struck a chord in my fossilised cortex, hold on that was right in the middle of the unpopular vietnam war, so could the moon landing have also been intended/used to distract the public and get that conflict off the front pages for a while?
Another aspect of whether you could always trust the government during that period of time was the JFK assassination findings 1963-64, the warren commission, which concluded that mosley was the only shooter that day, many have cast doubt on this. [Single-bullet theory etc..]
] the date 1969 struck a chord in my fossilised cortex, hold on that was right in the middle of the unpopular vietnam war, so could the moon landing have also been intended/used to distract the public and get that conflict off the front pages for a while?Another aspect of whether you could always trust the government during that period of time was the JFK assassination findings 1963-64, the warren commission, which concluded that mosley was the only shooter that day, many have cast doubt on this. [Single-bullet theory etc..]
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I've just looked up the distance to the moon 384,000 kilometres, so there and back 768,000 kms, do you really believe this vehicle could fly that massive distance, also land and take off etc...sorry silly question of course you do
Silly little me for believing, thank God I have you to enlighten me.
Did you know that photo you show is just one piece of three of the ship.
Also you might wanna look up Israeli moon mission. That ship looks exactly like the one the USA sent up. The Israeli ship is from last year. It failed to land due to not having an backup electrical system.
Don’t stop believing....
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what about the video I posted of the astonauts talking and the van allen belts etc...no comment from yourself on that?
regarding this israeli moon mission, were there any astronauts aboard/involved?
I must admit I'm still willing to believe that the 1969 moon landing might've happened, but it's probably only 25% I'm afraid...
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The Van Allen belt is deadly if you stay there, but you wouldn’t be killed just travelling through it. A lethal dose of radiation is 300 rads in an hour, the Apollo Astronauts were exposed to 2 rads for the entire trip (there and back).
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Apparently the moon is 400 times closer to the sun, the temperatures can range between 260 degrees fahrenheit and minus 280 f [so -173c to 127c ] these are very extreme temperatures.
so at 14.33 secs, this smaller pod craft launches back off the moon and flies all that distance back to earth 384,000 km, through the radiation belts etc...
so at 14.33 secs, this smaller pod craft launches back off the moon and flies all that distance back to earth 384,000 km, through the radiation belts etc...
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It said in that video the spacecraft was travelling at 25,000 kph? I can understand this figure while it was attached to the saturn V rocket but not on the return journey, how could it generate that power and speed, it's a tiny little pod/module?
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the smaller pod left the moon and went back to the command module which went through the radiation belts.
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what happened to the command module when it came back to the earth?
[btw: vox is considered to be purveyors of fake news/deep state narratives by many]
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That was a good little video and I love the idea of it, men flying to the moon, but I still think we just didn't have the technology to be able to do this.
At 4.10 secs in the vid the module launches off the moon at the exact right time to be in line with the last remaining part of the rocket [command module] orbiting overhead, the astronauts get back inside and then discard the lunar module and then fly back home at thousands of miles per hour back through the van allen belts etc...
I don't think we even had casio digital watches in those days, yet they could perform all these manoeuvres in space and achieve advanced technical tasks with 1960's equipment. I think it was played out like a rehearsal, as if it were possible, but it was roleplay by the nasa folk.
However I respect people who still believe it as factual, grew up in america with the excitement and stories about it, I know there is a lot of pride re NASA and it's work/achievements and great reputation through the years.
At 4.10 secs in the vid the module launches off the moon at the exact right time to be in line with the last remaining part of the rocket [command module] orbiting overhead, the astronauts get back inside and then discard the lunar module and then fly back home at thousands of miles per hour back through the van allen belts etc...
I don't think we even had casio digital watches in those days, yet they could perform all these manoeuvres in space and achieve advanced technical tasks with 1960's equipment. I think it was played out like a rehearsal, as if it were possible, but it was roleplay by the nasa folk.
However I respect people who still believe it as factual, grew up in america with the excitement and stories about it, I know there is a lot of pride re NASA and it's work/achievements and great reputation through the years.
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I'm not sure man ever put a foot on the moon in the first place, it was part of a propaganda battle against the commies, to show them the USA was more successful and advanced
It looks far too 'tin foily' and fragile to survive space travel, the van allen belt etc
I think you are putting too much emphasis on the spaceship.
Remember even Mr Spoon could get to Button Moon in a spaceship made from a tin of beans
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i think some random old lady i walked past earlier had ate a tin of beans in order to get to the moon, in 37 years I've never heard an old lady let rip so hard.
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You look older than 37 in your pic
37 just makes me feel so old. Can not believe i am 46 this year
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yeah he looks a bit older than 37 
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i am prettier than Ricky from Trailer Park Boys ;p
i actually don't look much different than when i was 17, apart from a slight bald patch appearing on the back of the head lol. i never got turned down alcohol or at clubs from the age of 13+, while older friends would all the time, some people told me i looked 25 at that age lol.
must be something in the herb
to clarify, yeah, the pic i use isn't me, but is the guy in the vid Mack posted
i actually don't look much different than when i was 17, apart from a slight bald patch appearing on the back of the head lol. i never got turned down alcohol or at clubs from the age of 13+, while older friends would all the time, some people told me i looked 25 at that age lol.
must be something in the herb
to clarify, yeah, the pic i use isn't me, but is the guy in the vid Mack posted
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If it didn’t happen (it did) then close to 400,000 people have done a great job keeping it a secret. If it was faked the Russians would be the first to cry foul yet they haven’t. Nor the Chinese, nor us Brits etc etc.
In fact, moon missions from other countries have proved they really did land on the moon. The landing sites have been independently verified by Japan, China and India amongst others. They’ve even photographed the footprints!
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Just arrived...I found out yesterday that Macedonia changed their name, and now, that North Korea have moved to the moon?
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You are like Cm members who believe that slots are rigged and all slot providers are cheating. And yet not one person has come forward to blow the whistle. In this day age of seeking fame and fortune in the 5 min that the news cycle lasts not one person has come forward with any proof of slots being rigged or the moon landing being fake.
Sorry until there is hard proof and not inference I’ll believe what I believe.
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- that's just the sort of response I'd expect from a member of the illuminatikidding
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Thank you stevie for this kind and thoughtful observation, I don't know where I'd be without your uplifting words. I'll add this one to your verdict that I would defend Trump shooting someone dead, it's nice to know that your opinion of me is not fixed in stone, it can get even worse in time
No one blew the whistle on jfk's assassination so I guess that means the official conclusion is 100% true. We had a whistle blower scientist in the uk once, Dr david Kelly, who was embarrasing the Govt, you may have heard what fate befell him?
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conflating the moon landing to/with the JFK assassination isn't even combining comparable conspiracy theories as you're talking either a lone or handful - perhaps even a small group of persons, to nearly a 1/2 million people* when it comes to whistle-blowingThank you stevie for this kind and thoughtful observation, I don't know where I'd be without your uplifting words. I'll add this one to your verdict that I would defend Trump shooting someone dead, it's nice to know that your opinion of me is not fixed in stone, it can get even worse in time
No one blew the whistle on jfk's assassination so I guess that means the official conclusion is 100% true. We had a whistle blower scientist in the uk once, Dr david Kelly, who was embarrasing the Govt, you may have heard what fate befell him?
*source PBS -
But have you ever wondered, for the Apollo 11 conspiracy to be true, how many people would need to be part of the secret?
Just over 400,000, says Oxford University physicist and cancer biologist David Robert Grimes. Grimes, in the journal PLOS ONE that estimates how long a large-scale conspiracy can last before someone behind the scenes intentionally or unintentionally pulls back the curtain.
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well, duh; how else would I deliver my messages in codeI can't believe half the stuff I'm reading on here. So many people starting sentences without capital letters
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right so you are saying in effect the jfk conspiracies are more plausible?
My point was that governments can and do lie about big events, you can't say because there are no whistleblowers there is no falsehood/crime. Take the case of Edward Snowden, he blew the whistle on mass spying and surveillance on the public and had to escape the country, he is treated by the authorities as a wanted criminal not as a whistle blower. Thousands of his colleagues with the same knowledge chose not to whistle blow...why?
"Grimes has been critical of anti-fluoride campaigns" "Grimes has also been publicly critical of a medicinal cannabis campaign by People Before Profit" "He has particularly criticised dubious claims linking cannabis to cures for cancer and autism"
He sounds like a govt/big business stooge to me, there are such people around 'hired guns' effectively for vested interests.
Regarding the moon landing to move further forward I'd rather people answered the questions which are raised as a result of the specific things said in the video posted in #2412
The questions just have to be resolved
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I can't believe half the stuff I'm reading on here. So many people starting sentences without capital letters
im guilty of this often. im just a lazy m------ -------- at the best of times.
infact, sometimes i really do do it on purpose. its thst disobedient devil inside x . i could apologise, but then it wouldnt even be remotely sincere either.
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the command module is in a museum, the command service module I have no idea, perhaps it floats around space when it run out of fuel or it crashes and burns in the earths atmosphere.
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I still like the idea of space travel, and in something that looks like it was made by the victorians rather than an ultra sleek modern space ship, it reminds me of HG Wells etc.. and then the quatermass films and tv series in the 50's and 60's.
If it's all true then I'd be more than happy at the ingenuity of man mastering space travel.
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To be fair...it looks more/just as robust than Tim Peak's shuttle in Manchester......are you saying Tim wasn't in Space either? You monster!
I, on the other hand, had a new roof put on recently. It looked like the hallmark of roofing. 2 weeks later it already had water coming in and a squirrel.
They don't make em like they used to
I, on the other hand, had a new roof put on recently. It looked like the hallmark of roofing. 2 weeks later it already had water coming in and a squirrel.
They don't make em like they used to
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Thank you stevie for this kind and thoughtful observation, I don't know where I'd be without your uplifting words. I'll add this one to your verdict that I would defend Trump shooting someone dead, it's nice to know that your opinion of me is not fixed in stone, it can get even worse in time
No one blew the whistle on jfk's assassination so I guess that means the official conclusion is 100% true. We had a whistle blower scientist in the uk once, Dr david Kelly, who was embarrasing the Govt, you may have heard what fate befell him?
Is there a reason why you are picking a fight. Spare us the faux outrage. And how my saying you are like cmers who think slots are rigged is an insult to you is astonishing. You Believe what you believe just like they do. I just don’t agree with you or them.
But let’s go with what you are saying....
I’m in the movie business...do you know how many people it takes to build a set....
To build a props...
Next time you see a film wait for the credits and you will get an idea .
Then there’s that pesky problem of all those actors we saw at nasa control center..
Cameramen....and sound people....in order to have the footage and sound...
And not one person has come forward.
Not one person has offered a shred of proof.
Believe what you want, it’s free.
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I'd call it lunacy but it is a moon conspiracy theory
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Yes...and there you go. Just proving my point. That in the thousands that knew...one came forward.
One person came forward.where is this one person for your fake moon landing.
As for your video...people have already addressed those ...you are choosing to ignore the answers...
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I never said the nasa people in the control centre were actors...the movie industry relies a lot on conspiracies in their movie plots, capricorn one for example to give a space related film, and countless films involving shady govt actions, three days of the condor, bourne identity etc.. d'you see many people stand up and walk out of the cinema because conspiracies are for nutcases and not believable/credible
no they have not, but as you are so confident, you can provide an answer:
Terry virts ISS commander nasa astronaut: "right now we can only fly in earth orbit, that's the farthest we can go" and yet they went to the moon in 1969, so how do you explain this present day limitation?
and 4.42 secs in, kelly smth nasa engineer, talking about the van allen belts " we must solve these challenges before we send people through this region of space" but if the moon landings happened then they solved the challenges 50 years ago ? how do you explain this contradiction?
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To be fair...it looks more/just as robust than Tim Peak's shuttle in Manchester......are you saying Tim wasn't in Space either? You monster!
I, on the other hand, had a new roof put on recently. It looked like the hallmark of roofing. 2 weeks later it already had water coming in and a squirrel.
They don't make em like they used to
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you've got to remember though pin that concorde flew to the edge of space, so space can still be within the earths orbit.
Apparently the international space station is 400 km above the earth's surface [bearing in mind the moon is 384,000 km away] whereas the van allen belts are situated at 1000km onwards
here is a clip from the ISS flying above earth, amazing stuff
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Then why say it, you had no need to say 'you are like' such and such group of people, who are often derided and ridiculed. Why do you think you can go around casting down judgements on people's character and insulting anyone who holds a different viewpoint/opinion ?
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Just found this Fox tv documentary from 2001, very interesting:
[ the flag waving when there is no wind on the moon is at 21.30 ]
[ the flag waving when there is no wind on the moon is at 21.30 ]
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that has been debunked so often, it's a non-issue
addresses your van belt issue as well
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