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Netents "dirty tricks"

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by jackpotwolf, May 29, 2013.

    May 29, 2013
  1. jackpotwolf

    jackpotwolf Newbie member

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    A couple of weeks ago i cashed out big after a good run,then all of a sudden my exclusive slot just become unplayable(game not available message every 10 spin or so).Stupid me kept playing and lost some of my win back,I mailed the casino and asked them to consider to refund me,because I felt it wasnt fair play,long shot i know:cool:.....anyway they got back to me after a week or so and said there seemed it was some technical issues,but it wouldnt affect the payout of the machine, so no money back...
    And then magicaly the slot was running perfect again,and in the last days I managed to win big again and cashed out last night...
    So no surprise today when I wanted to continue my streak,slot totaly unplayable like last time..
    It works perfectly when Im not logged in and play for free,Im 99% that this is dirty tactics from the casino,it has also happened at other netent in the past..
    Have you experienced this?What do you make of it?
     
  2. May 29, 2013
  3. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    probably not - they just run on different servers; when one lags or breaks down, often the other works fine
     
  4. May 29, 2013
  5. jackpotwolf

    jackpotwolf Newbie member

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    I just think its to much of a coinsidence that its "breaks down"after running perfectly for long amounts of time,excatly after I cash out big.Also it seems to work fine for all the players who you can see on the "latest winners"list.It has just happened to many times.
     
  6. May 29, 2013
  7. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    Honestly, the casino hasn't the staff to monitor any one's persons play. And how unrealistic is it to think they'd crash a whole server just because YOU won a few bucks at that time and close off potentially hundreds of losing players. I just don't see it.
     
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  8. May 29, 2013
  9. jackpotwolf

    jackpotwolf Newbie member

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    Yeah maybe Im beeing paranoid,but I dont think its impossible that the casinos have "tools" to deal with each individual players if they want to,without chrashing the server for all the players.
    I understand that Im not that important lol..
     
  10. May 29, 2013
  11. The Viking

    The Viking Ueber Meister MM

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    Ask for your RTP for that exclusive slot, you might be in for a shock when you see it, it might be a bit higher then you expect :)
     
  12. May 29, 2013
  13. jackpotwolf

    jackpotwolf Newbie member

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    My RTP for this slot is skyhigh,it has been for many different casinos for years.I quite dont get it actually,anyway I brought this up in another thread and people accused me for lying and bragging,so I wont go there again.
    Im pretty sure the casino is trying to slow down my"winning streaks" down by using this tactic.
     
  14. May 29, 2013
  15. Nifty29

    Nifty29 Dormant account

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    If truly believe all the nonsense you have posted in this thread, then you should consider not playing online any more.
     
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  17. nisosbar

    nisosbar Ueber Meister PABnonaccred

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    At one time, I may have agreed with this argument. However, someone in another thread posted audited stats demonstrating that at most online casinos, the number of unique customers numbered regularly in the millions.

    And even if they could introduce a covert subprogram to mitigate their own losses on a player-by-player basis, there are so many similar scandals that have been uncovered due to player cooperation - for example, I think that's how Ultimate Bet was initially uncovered. Netent has a to-date squeaky clean reputation; I'd have to say that these arguments about Netent impose a burden of proof on those promoting such arguments, and you haven't met the burden here.
     
  18. May 29, 2013
  19. Respin_Ftw

    Respin_Ftw Senior Member

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    This has happened to me aswell in the past. But it happened as i were loosing. Every 10th spin or so i had to update the game. Did they try to stop me from loosing? :eek2:
     
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  21. Slotster!

    Slotster! I predict a riot. CAG

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    Or offline. Or even with scissors.
     
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  22. May 29, 2013
  23. jackpotwolf

    jackpotwolf Newbie member

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    Lol now Im beeing ridiculed for something that I know is true,you cant discard the fact all the times this has happened to me over the years,it CANT be a coinsidence....And yes I know it also know it happens from time to time on netent,but Im talking about socalled crashes right after a cashout over and over again,after maybe a month of no problem.
    I feel like a man a long time ago telling the establishment that the earth is round,and they just laughed and mocked him,saying that is not possible and claiming its flat for sure,100%,its not even up for disussion,its FLAT u fool.
     
  24. May 29, 2013
  25. Nifty29

    Nifty29 Dormant account

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    No, you don't. You THINK it's true.

    You don't have one iota of evidence (apart from "I lost") to support your theory/opinion/dream/illusion/hallucination.

    You can believe it all you like. It doesn't make it true.

    If you play even ONE more spin at ANY online casino from this second onwards, you will lose any shred of credibility you might have had as you would be knowingly playing a completely rigged and cheating game...which only a complete fool would do, right?
     
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  27. AudiManinBoro

    AudiManinBoro Ueber Meister MM

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    Monitoring all players continous play is as has been pointed out unlikley.

    However having said, with certain casinos its amazing how quickly one of their `chat representatives` pops up with an offer or a bonus soon after logging in, sometimes so quickly that its done before your even able to make a deposit. If players are not routinely monitored how does one explain them contacting you within seconds? :D food for thought.

    I have even had it in the past where seconds after losing my first deposit I have been contacted again with a further offer if I make a second deposit..
     
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  29. jackpotwolf

    jackpotwolf Newbie member

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    Very good point,it would be naiv not to think the casinos have "control"of their players,to a certain degree at least,so they can maximise your deposits and minimize your withdraws.
    However in my case they wouldnt have to monitor me at all,these "incidens"always happens the day after I withdraw...And Im not talking about withdraws in the region of some hundreds of euros that I won after having sex with the sheriff in DoA and won 100xbet,Im talking much larger amounts.
     
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  31. Tirilej

    Tirilej Still a Lady CAG

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    I might have at least thought about you being right, if the problems had occured while you were winning and before you hit the cashout button.
    It happens after when you are there playing again and giving the money back.
    Why in the world would they want you to be bothered then? :confused:
     
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  33. jackpotwolf

    jackpotwolf Newbie member

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    I never meant that the casino monitored and interfered in live play,they "put the breaks on"when I go on a winning streak over time and withdraws my money..
    The part that I lost some back while the game was not working is not relevant,it just happened a couple of times.
     
  34. May 29, 2013
  35. Slotster!

    Slotster! I predict a riot. CAG

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    I wasn't ridiculing you personally, I was ridiculing the notion that a casino would a) Have a beatable slot that b) the only way they could stop it haemorrhaging money was by haphazardly disconnecting an individual user.

    I think they'd probably pull it altogether - don't you? Of course not before they had chance for you to pour all your winnings back in.

    This is classic gambler skewed perspective on a series of entirely unrelated events.
     
  36. May 29, 2013
  37. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

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    Honestly, this topic is from the fruitcake department. IF a casino knew you were going to win, they would act before not post-win. In fact, had you just cashed out, I'd want the game to run impeccably in order for you to re-deposit, not stop you playing further! If you're suggesting you were on some kind of streak, and the casino knew this and messed the game up, then you're into not 'tin foil' territory but 'gold foil' territory. Even platinum foil. This is because the casino must then KNOW the outcome of the RNG before you even attempt to play again, and amongst the various attributes given to casinos, both negative and positive, I have yet to hear of clairvoyance.........:)

    games crash and burn and play up on most casinos at different times. Sometimes your PC may simply get hot after running the graphics, and slow down and not respond to the server thus you get an incomplete game. Really, it's nothing to get het up about.
     
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  39. Nifty29

    Nifty29 Dormant account

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    Some casinos....mostly playtech....have an automated popup system that detects when you login and immediately brings up a chat window with a message like "How would you like a special bonus today blah blah". A chat rep doesn't see you login and then type a personal message. The backend notifies the chat rep if you reply and then you start chatting. If you don't reply, it either just goes away when you shut it down or another bog standard "Thankyou for being a sucker yada yada".

    Its all automated. Its also a VERY far cry from monitoring every bet and assessing your bets over an extended period trying to calculate if you're winning too much so they can kick you off the server or whatever other hogwash you think they do to stop you winning.

    The TRUTH is that the less-than-100% RTP and natural variance does all of what you say for them already I.e. produces winning AND losing streaks etc. The more you play, the more they win. Attempting to stop you playing and continually kicking you out is COSTING them money not MAKING them money I.e. they WANT you to play as many spins/hands as quickly as possible.

    Further, for them to actually "make" you lose they would have to move you to a different server with a different RTP....in fact a VERY different RTP ...in fact what would amount to an AWP/fruit machine running in the background which controlled each and every spin to ensure you lose. For example, if they kicked you on to a 90% or 85% server from a 95% server you would not immediately see a difference....in fact you could still win big, so it may not have the desired effect anyway.

    Ah geez. Why am I even trying to explain common sense and logic to someone who doesn't want to listen? I must be mad.

    Its important to note that casinos all over the world make huge profits from running fully regulated and fair games. Its actually tough enough running a casino legitimately, and the time and effort and resources that would be required to continually do such thing as the OP suggests would be economically unviable and perhaps even technically unworkable.

    Lets just hope the OP doesn't fall off the edge of the planet before he responds....
     
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