my thoughts about Highnoon Casino

[AGW]

I deposited $178 to highnoon casino. Collected $178, started with $356, finished wagering requirements and made it $3396 then i cashouted. I deposited with ecocard, and requested acshout via ecocard.

Next day, when i was waiting the payment, an email received that my cashout declined. I asked reason and they wanted some faxback form and id,etc. I sent them.

And next day while waiting my payment, again received an email that my withdrawal request declined. I understood that High Noon casino is one of the other casinos that does everything to not to pay. I played with it back and of course lost, as they wanted.

I just want to warn people that if you play with highnoon casino and you lost, there is no problem. If you play and win, they will do everything to not to pay. Be prepared to deal with this and know that they'll force you to play until you lose it.

Find better places to play. So you'll know that if you win, you'll be get paid.

 

[maxd]

I suggest you either submit a PAB on this -- they are Accred here at CM -- or you provide some documentation to back up your accusations. What you report here is not at all consistent with what we know of this casino.

 

[Nifty29]

I deposited $178 to highnoon casino. Collected $178, started with $356, finished wagering requirements and made it $3396 then i cashouted. I deposited with ecocard, and requested acshout via ecocard.

Next day, when i was waiting the payment, an email received that my cashout declined. I asked reason and they wanted some faxback form and id,etc. I sent them.

And next day while waiting my payment, again received an email that my withdrawal request declined. I understood that High Noon casino is one of the other casinos that does everything to not to pay. I played with it back and of course lost, as they wanted.

I just want to warn people that if you play with highnoon casino and you lost, there is no problem. If you play and win, they will do everything to not to pay. Be prepared to deal with this and know that they'll force you to play until you lose it.

Find better places to play. So you'll know that if you win, you'll be get paid.

Oh brother

So you made a cashout, was denied and so you sent ID as requested.

You were then denied again.

Instead of contacting support or the forum rep (you've been around long enough to know to do both) and wait for an answer, you blew it all back.

Now, it is the casinos fault that you lost over $3k. Yeah. I can see that. The casino forced you to login, choose a game, open it, choose a bet and press spin/deal....over and over until all your money was gone. How could they remove all your freedom of choice like that and completely take over your mind! It's criminal I tells ya!!!

Honestly, this kind of pissing and moaning and blaming everyone else for one's own mistakes or poor choices makes me want to puke.

YOU chose to RISK your funds. YOU could have WAITED to find out what the issue was with your docs. YOU could have WON......and I can just see what the heading of your post would have been..."Haha! Highnoons delays costs them plenty!".

The only reason you posted this is that you are pissed that you lost your cash. The whole doc thing could have been resolved in a day or two....and you know it.

So, don't pretend you're "doing us a favor" by coming to warn us about Highnoon not paying. You're just using it as an excuse to blame someone else for your own actions.

 

[Nate]

Be as it may, this trend of delaying withdrawals and all the good stuff (Declining WD's, ignoring emails, processor problems, pending periods, we cant see your documents, we have not received your documents... the list goes on) that goes with it is PREDATORY...

We can forever blame the gambler and his tendencies. The fact of the matter is Casinos PREY on this and it remains unethical.

Im still waiting for some 'Fair Play Advocate' to stand up to this and say - Its WRONG... don't hold our money hostage, don't impose maximum withdrawal policies and don't take forever to approve our withdrawals.

The player is wrong here - He played, he lost. In the end, its the Casinos predatory nature and failure to process / flush / pay out in time which has ultimately lead to this,

RTG... WTG - Now Lets crucify the gambler.... For being exactly that ... A Gambler.

Nate

 

[skiny]

I'm not going to jump up and down on your head but it's true you really didn't have to play it back.

All casinos should allow people to flush deposits. There's no reason they can't. They just won't. It's far too easy to go back and play a little bit while you wait for delays to be sorted out. Then a little more. Then you're chasing your loses. Then you're broke.

You can't blame a casino because you gambled but I think some casinos do know the longer your money sits there the better the chance is you'll play it and of course lose it. I've done it myself but the delays were a hell of a lot longer than 2 or 3 days.

I suggest you get your docs cleared and officially ok'd before you start gambling at any casino that requires them. The old "unapproved docs" issue has been going on far too long for people to still be getting stung with it. Maybe when casinos know you won't deposit until the docs are approved they'll be a little more eager to get things sorted out.

 

[The Dude]

Just a quick note: RTG casinos cannot flush winnings - that's just the way it is. I think I explained why in the last London report.

I understood that High Noon casino is one of the other casinos that does everything to not to pay. I played with it back and of course lost, as they wanted.

If this was true then they wouldn't be listed here. I suggest you PAB. Thanks!

 

[Nate]

Just a quick note: RTG casinos cannot flush winnings - that's just the way it is. I think I explained why in the last London report.

Bryan,

With due respect,

I have queried this exact issue with an accredited RTG Casino. It IS possible to make the Withdrawal 'Non-Reversable' ... almost the same as flushing it.

Nate

 

[rtgkiller]

Oh brother

So you made a cashout, was denied and so you sent ID as requested.

You were then denied again.

Instead of contacting support or the forum rep (you've been around long enough to know to do both) and wait for an answer, you blew it all back.

Now, it is the casinos fault that you lost over $3k. Yeah. I can see that. The casino forced you to login, choose a game, open it, choose a bet and press spin/deal....over and over until all your money was gone. How could they remove all your freedom of choice like that and completely take over your mind! It's criminal I tells ya!!!

Honestly, this kind of pissing and moaning and blaming everyone else for one's own mistakes or poor choices makes me want to puke.

YOU chose to RISK your funds. YOU could have WAITED to find out what the issue was with your docs. YOU could have WON......and I can just see what the heading of your post would have been..."Haha! Highnoons delays costs them plenty!".

The only reason you posted this is that you are pissed that you lost your cash. The whole doc thing could have been resolved in a day or two....and you know it.

So, don't pretend you're "doing us a favor" by coming to warn us about Highnoon not paying. You're just using it as an excuse to blame someone else for your own actions.

Nifty, There you go again. Being an Instigator. Maxd has already asked the OP to PAB. So he can look into what may have went wrong. At that point. There was no need to make the type of comments who made towards the OP. Give the OP time to take up Maxd's offer. And allow the PAB process work. I'm sure glad you're not a moderator here. Because you seem to love to moderate the forum. I bet over the past couple of years. You have been involved in more people either closing their accounts here; Or getting banned. Then fraud and chargebacks combined. If some type of steps isn't taken. To put a leash on you. You may cost even more members. Who are still here, their memberships as well.

 

[Tirilej]

Nifty, There you go again. Being an Instigator. Maxd has already asked the OP to PAB. So he can look into what may have went wrong. At that point. There was no need to make the type of comments who made towards the OP. Give the OP time to take up Maxd's offer. And allow the PAB process work. I'm sure glad you're not a moderator here. Because you seem to love to moderate the forum. I bet over the past couple of years. You have been involved in more people either closing their accounts here; Or getting banned. Then fraud and chargebacks combined. If some type of steps isn't taken. To put a leash on you. You may cost even more members. Who are still here, their memberships as well.

Since you are a newbie, only been a member for a month and written only 13 posts, I suppose you know everything except that there is a Reportbutton in the bottom of all posts.
Use that if you think another members post is out of line, or ignore him.
Maybe you yourself should let the moderators do their job.

 

[maxd]

Nifty, There you go again. Being an Instigator. ....

As mentioned, the preferred approach with such things is to use the Report Post feature to flag us moderators:

Attach Removed (Old not found)

Thank you for your cooperation.

 

[LHofsdal]

Just Wondering....

AGW-

Day 1- You submitted your withdrawal request.
Day 2- It was declined because you needed documents to be sent in and approved.
Day 3-You sent in your documents.
Day 4-Your withdrawal was declined again and you played back your winnings.

From your post I gather this is the timeline of the events that happened. When Highnoon declined your withdrawal the 2nd time what was their reason? You did not state that in the original post. It is well known, that your account must be verified before your first withdrawal is processed. And sometimes the process of getting verified can take some time. Here it has only been 1 day (I think), because you never tried to rectify the problem with the second withdrawal. I think patience would have prevented you from playing everything back. Please don't take what I am saying personally, because most gamblers have been there. Myself included.

I know that Highnoon is a tough place to beat. I have tried many times and only cashed out there 2 or 3 times. My playtime there is by far the worst of all RTG casinos. So I made the decision to play else where. But to say they are known for not paying out, is not true.

I feel for you for losing your withdrawal, but you are right it is your fault. As much as you don't want to hear that it is. I can understand your frustration, but blaming the casino at this point is a bit premature. If there was a problem with your documents the second time, then why would you not try and rectify it? You just played it all back, not even trying to figure out why or if anything can be wrong with the documents you sent in?

Now it is a lesson, an expensive lesson to be learned. Get your account verified before you even start depositing. This way when you are lucky enough to make a withdrawal, it will be alot smoother, and you will be alot happier.

LH

 

[AGW]

For some friends; look, this is not my first time of gambling. I played lots of for last 8 years. Sometimes I won big amounts, most of the time lost big amounts. Sometimes after winning and cashing out, i canceled my withdrawal myself, played and lost.

Most of the time players lost at casinos. Me, too. And that's ok.

What I try to say is if i won, if i cashed out, if i sent my documents, casinos have to pay it.

I have played on more than 50 casinos for countless times. Now i can instantly see which casinos are ok to pay and which don't. And I shared my experience with highnoon casino. I played back because i said myself 'this one is not going to pay'. I saw it clearly.

It is one of them, sorry. Casinos that want to pay don't need this type of psychological tricks.

They need to know that after we win and cashed out to my ecocard, 2 days later we'll deposit again to there (as it is a good casino and pays) and will lose it.

I just wanted to warn players about the situation and to choose better casinos (most of them are already on meister's accredited list.-but as there are good casinos which are not on this list, some bad casinos are on this list. I can confirm with experience that 90% of the casinos on the list are good. and this is enough for casinomeister.com. nothing can be perfect.)

If i open a topic everytime i lose, i need to do it once every 2 day. But i don't do it. Because losing is not the problem as some posters didn't understand.

I'm talking about a different thing: There are casinos that don't force you to play and play again, and there ones that do. Highnoon is on the second category according to my experience, and know this before playing there.

I hope it is clear enough.

 

[chuchu59]

I deposited $178 to highnoon casino. Collected $178, started with $356, finished wagering requirements and made it $3396 then i cashouted. I deposited with ecocard, and requested acshout via ecocard.

Next day, when i was waiting the payment, an email received that my cashout declined. I asked reason and they wanted some faxback form and id,etc. I sent them.

And next day while waiting my payment, again received an email that my withdrawal request declined. I understood that High Noon casino is one of the other casinos that does everything to not to pay. I played with it back and of course lost, as they wanted.

I just want to warn people that if you play with highnoon casino and you lost, there is no problem. If you play and win, they will do everything to not to pay. Be prepared to deal with this and know that they'll force you to play until you lose it.

Find better places to play. So you'll know that if you win, you'll be get paid.

If you had understood that High Noon is a casino that does everything not to play why did you even deposit there.

Their support ranks as one of the worst among accredited casinos. Your experience is the same as mine at All Star Slots (same group) for my first 2 cashouts except that I held my nerve and didnt play them back.

There were delays but you have to take responsibility for losing the funds back. What you didnt tell us was how long it took for them to seemingly delay your cashout to the time you played them back. In other words, did you exercise patience or were you just greedy and wanted to win more in the interim?

As with the thread on Manhattan Slots these warnings are frivolous and actually stem from people acting irresponsibly or having a grudge against this group and posting under the pretence of 'warning' others. The only warning to be served is to tell players to exercise patience. Bad-mouthing them without reason only makes one look silly. Sure, you can post your experience here but dont disguise it as a 'warning' as asking for documentation is standard practice though this group is a tad slow IMHO.

 

[Nifty29]

@AGW

Psychological tricks? What a load of......

The way you are carrying on sounds like there was an issue with your ID that you knew would cause problems.

@tirilej

Rtgkiller is not a newb. They have been a member before. All the stuff about "over the years" etc and their posting style....plus their lack if self control....gives them away every time.

 

[AGW]

I understand highnoon casino is not going to pay after 3 passed and they declined withdrawl 2 times. I played and bet max on every bet, because i understood that they are not going to pay, i played to lose it.

There aren't any problem with my documents. They are already on my email and re-send it to every casino.

With good casinos it works like this: you play, if you win you withdraw, they request your documents, you send them, they process your withdrawl.

With bad casinos: they decline your withdrawl even if they don't have your documents with them or if they have. Because documents are not the problem for them.

Also this topic can be deleted. I thought i was doing a good thing. it's not worth it.

 

[Nifty29]

I understand highnoon casino is not going to pay after 3 passed and they declined withdrawl 2 times. I played and bet max on every bet, because i understood that they are not going to pay, i played to lose it.

There aren't any problem with my documents. They are already on my email and re-send it to every casino.

With good casinos it works like this: you play, if you win you withdraw, they request your documents, you send them, they process your withdrawl.

With bad casinos: they decline your withdrawl even if they don't have your documents with them or if they have. Because documents are not the problem for them.

Also this topic can be deleted. I thought i was doing a good thing. it's not worth it.

You're right....documents aren't the problem. You are.

You just ignore everything anyone says that disturbs or disputes your fantasy.

You see, a player who is unsure if they'll be paid just leave the money there, continue complying with all requests, and hope for the best.....they don't blow it all just for the sake of it. Totally ridiculous and makes no sense at all.

Your pretention of helping other players isn't fooling anyone.

 

[AGW]

You see, a player who is unsure if they'll be paid just leave the money there, continue complying with all requests, and hope for the best.....they don't blow it all just for the sake of it. Totally ridiculous and makes no sense at all.

I was doing this at past. Now I'm experienced enough, this routine is same with all casinos which are not going to pay. With the casinos that pay, their routine is opposite of this. And good casinos show me which casinos are bad.

I'm answering your questions, because other members may want to learn it, too. Normally I don't care this type of people as you.

 

[chayton]

To the OP, if you're sure you're in the right here, why don't you do a PAB like Max suggested? It would be interesting to know why your withdrawal was declined a second time after your docs were sent. I'm assuming this happened earlier in the week since the cashier and security team at most casinos in the CWC group don't work on weekends.

 

[AGW]

I don't think there is a need of PAB. Because this is not about me personally. The casino's usual routine is this. You cash out on 1st day, in 2nd. day they decline your withdrawl if they don't have your documents, which is understandable. You send your documents. On 3rd day they again decline your withdrawal (because they haven't checked your documents, yet). Instead of declining withdrawals, they need to either check it or wait checking it, but definetely not declining. There is no reason for declining. I already sent documents and there is nothing to do on my part. But they force you to login to casino again and again.

For other good casinos, once i cashed out, even I don't need to login to casino again. I just send my documents. After 4-5 days later, i see my payment on my ecocard account. That's how it works with quality casinos.

 

[LHofsdal]

I don't think it is routine, because I had a problem with my ID when I was getting verified. I didn't realize that I had sent the wrong ID, it was expired. Sent them my updated one and within 7 hours I had an e-mail stating that everything was approved.

In my opinion, the casino it self my be tighter than my hubby with his wallet, but as a whole, this casino is from an accredited group and trying to "shaft" someone from being paid is not something they do. They may have a few problems with processors and lack of employees from time to time but they eventually do get things back on track.

Again, this is just my personal opinion.

LH

 

[chuchu59]

I don't think there is a need of PAB. Because this is not about me personally. The casino's usual routine is this. You cash out on 1st day, in 2nd. day they decline your withdrawl if they don't have your documents, which is understandable. You send your documents. On 3rd day they again decline your withdrawal (because they haven't checked your documents, yet). Instead of declining withdrawals, they need to either check it or wait checking it, but definetely not declining. There is no reason for declining. I already sent documents and there is nothing to do on my part. But they force you to login to casino again and again.

For other good casinos, once i cashed out, even I don't need to login to casino again. I just send my documents. After 4-5 days later, i see my payment on my ecocard account. That's how it works with quality casinos.

This is about you personally as you decided to play it all back. If you submitted a PAB it would be thrown out of the window. As with many other casinos, this group also facilitates players to lose their funds back. In other words they are 'legitimately assisting you to lose your money lol so you have to be extra patient and careful yourself.

 

[nisosbar]

I've always gotten paid from High Noon, and promptly.

 

[chayton]

I've always gotten paid from High Noon, and promptly.

Me too - and that goes for all the casinos in the CWC group. What the OP said happened isn't standard operating procedure for this group, which is why I thought a PAB would clarify things.

 

[Tirilej]

@tirilej

Rtgkiller is not a newb. They have been a member before. All the stuff about "over the years" etc and their posting style....plus their lack if self control....gives them away every time.

I know! It wasn't his first attempt making you look as the bad guy either

OP, I had the exact same experience when I started playing at Highnoon, and I was already verified in the group.
I made the same mistake of blowing away my money with no patience at all.
The sad thing looking at it now, I know I could just have asked live-chat, and they would have helped me.

I think it's human always looking after someone else to blame, and maybe you will see the same as I did.
It's just so damn hard to admit that selfcontrol is rarily our first name

 

[vinylweatherman]

I don't think there is a need of PAB. Because this is not about me personally. The casino's usual routine is this. You cash out on 1st day, in 2nd. day they decline your withdrawl if they don't have your documents, which is understandable. You send your documents. On 3rd day they again decline your withdrawal (because they haven't checked your documents, yet). Instead of declining withdrawals, they need to either check it or wait checking it, but definetely not declining. There is no reason for declining. I already sent documents and there is nothing to do on my part. But they force you to login to casino again and again.

For other good casinos, once i cashed out, even I don't need to login to casino again. I just send my documents. After 4-5 days later, i see my payment on my ecocard account. That's how it works with quality casinos.

Playing it back just makes the problem go away. With the money gone, there is no way to PROVE this was the start of a "no pay" fiasco. The only "proof" in this case is a single email.

The best way would be to leave the money sitting there for as long as it takes, acting as an embarrassment to the casino for how long it has taken to resolve the problem, and a far better warning to others as to what to expect. Every exchange between yourself and CS is yet another piece of evidence.

The casino could now say that there was no problem, just a miscommunication, and that your withdrawal would have been processed overnight after you logged in and requested it after the misunderstandings had been sorted out. Now, there is no way to prove intent either way, and nothing substantive in the way of a warning from this experience for others.

 

[Nifty29]

Playing it back just makes the problem go away. With the money gone, there is no way to PROVE this was the start of a "no pay" fiasco. The only "proof" in this case is a single email.

The best way would be to leave the money sitting there for as long as it takes, acting as an embarrassment to the casino for how long it has taken to resolve the problem, and a far better warning to others as to what to expect. Every exchange between yourself and CS is yet another piece of evidence.

The casino could now say that there was no problem, just a miscommunication, and that your withdrawal would have been processed overnight after you logged in and requested it after the misunderstandings had been sorted out. Now, there is no way to prove intent either way, and nothing substantive in the way of a warning from this experience for others.

The problem is that their ID was not accepted. So, instead of resolving the issue by sending in the ID actually required, or contacting the rep, the OP blew his winnings back and used his own lack of action as a lame excuse for lack of self control.

I just don't see what the casino did wrong. If the OP had sent acceptable ID, I'm sure they'd have had their money quickly. I'm sure the rep can tell us what REALLY happened.

I've seen these losers remorse rants hundreds of times, and the OP's is no different.

 

[vinylweatherman]

The problem is that their ID was not accepted. So, instead of resolving the issue by sending in the ID actually required, or contacting the rep, the OP blew his winnings back and used his own lack of action as a lame excuse for lack of self control.

I just don't see what the casino did wrong. If the OP had sent acceptable ID, I'm sure they'd have had their money quickly. I'm sure the rep can tell us what REALLY happened.

I've seen these losers remorse rants hundreds of times, and the OP's is no different.

This is not indicated. The second decline could have been because they submitted the withdrawal straight after sending in the documents, and at the time they had not been approved and the database updated to indicate this status. Not enough time had been allowed for the process.

If this was an ID issue, there would have been TWO emails, one for a declined withdrawal, and one for rejected documents.

It seems that normal procedure is to send a "documents approved" email, and it is after receiving this that withdrawals should be made.

 

[Nifty29]

This is not indicated. The second decline could have been because they submitted the withdrawal straight after sending in the documents, and at the time they had not been approved and the database updated to indicate this status. Not enough time had been allowed for the process.

If this was an ID issue, there would have been TWO emails, one for a declined withdrawal, and one for rejected documents.

It seems that normal procedure is to send a "documents approved" email, and it is after receiving this that withdrawals should be made.

Well not accepted or not assessed or whatever....the point is that the OP didn't bother to find out what the issue was, they just blew the money and now blame the casino. It doesn't work like that. Anyone who cannot control themselves to this degree should not be gambling IMO.

The whole thread is about Highnoon "not wanting to pay". No evidence suggests this at all, and no actual emails/chat has been provided.

Let's say that the casino did reject his 2nd withdrawal too quickly i.e. before the database was updated. It still doesn't mean that the casino "doesn't want to pay" nor does it mean the casino is to blame for the players losses. The OP would have KNOWN why the 2nd rejection happened....he admitted as much. Hence, all he had to do was resubmit again and wait.

It may be true that Highnoon needs to find a more streamlined withdrawal system when it comes to document verification that prevents the funds being reversed, but it still doesn't make them complicit in the players losses.

If the OP hadn't had blown the funds, we wouldn't have this thread. So, that should tell you what it is really about i.e. yet another "its someone else's fault" rant.

 

[chuchu59]

The OP should kick himself for playing the funds back. Casinos are in a business and naturally they dont want to pay so in varying degrees they will allow you to play back your own funds.

Now CW is a group that does not verify your docs in haste so if you are not patient with your first w/d you are likely to lose it back. Subsequent w/ds are normally processed within 48 hours though there seem to be problems lately. To accuse High Noon of not paying and initiating this thread is irresponsible. The OP could express concern on their handling of the docs. In fact, I encountered the same too but frankly if you win a fair amount you should exercise patience. Every casino knows that gamblers are by nature impatient and if they have available funds they cannot resist the temptation to play. They give you a little nudge by handling your docs sloooowly leaving you to stare at your balance and say' A couple of spins wont hurt'. We all know what will ensue though.

 

[KasinoKing]

The OP should kick himself for playing the funds back. Casinos are in a business and naturally they dont want to pay so in varying degrees they will allow you to play back your own funds.

Now CW is a group that does not verify your docs in haste so if you are not patient with your first w/d you are likely to lose it back. Subsequent w/ds are normally processed within 48 hours though there seem to be problems lately. To accuse High Noon of not paying and initiating this thread is irresponsible. The OP could express concern on their handling of the docs. In fact, I encountered the same too but frankly if you win a fair amount you should exercise patience. Every casino knows that gamblers are by nature impatient and if they have available funds they cannot resist the temptation to play. They give you a little nudge by handling your docs sloooowly leaving you to stare at your balance and say' A couple of spins wont hurt'. We all know what will ensue though.

Could not agree more! The OP should be kicking himself, and NOT the casino!
Also, I don't always agree with everything Nifty posts, but in this thread every word is spot on.

Patience is a virtue... which the OP obviously severely lacks.

KK

 

[AGW]

I didn't play back because i haven't patience. I have. I played back because casino wasn't going to pay. Looks like this is casino's strategy, so for example 80% of the winnings are turning back to casino. Probably casino's management decided this so they make 10% more yearly profit.

And I think that and wrote that they need to change their strategy. Instead of using this strategy, they need to pay winners without any problem, and 2 days later they'll deposit again and lose. So both part will be ok.

Again, I didn't play back because i haven't patience. With good casinos, if I want to play back, I reverse my withdrawl myself, not casinos do it. And if a casino does this, it is a 100% sign of that they are not going to pay, according to my experience.

I'm going to deposit to other casino on the same group and will see if the samething happens.

 

[Tirilej]

You are really stubborn and there went my respect somewhere outside the window

Please can you just make sure that you at least are verified before you start playing, so we don't have to read another whining story
Not much can make me react anymore but your behaviour is, sorry for saying it, childish.

 

[AGW]

You are really stubborn

No, I'm not stubborn, just I know that I'm right.

 

[chuchu59]

No, I'm not stubborn, just I know that I'm right.

You think they dont pay despite what you have been told by many patrons of High Noon and you still say that is not stubborness. In fact, if you knew they wouldnt pay why deposit there in the first place. I notice you are a webmeister and that makes it a bit even more difficult to comprehend.

 

[AGW]

In fact, if you knew they wouldnt pay why deposit there in the first place..

I didn't know before depositing there. After a casino declines withdrawals more than once and put it back to casino account, then I understand that this casino is not a quality one.

 

[Tirilej]

I didn't know before depositing there. After a casino declines withdrawals more than once and put it back to casino account, then I understand that this casino is not a quality one.

That's your opinion only, and you will never know since you didn't wait.

Don't just say it is so because that would be a lie.
Have you heard of them not paying a player that won fair before?
Why should you be the first one?

I don't understand your way of thinking, and it feels you just want them to be bad, just because you lost your winnings back.
But everyone has told you that already....

 

[AGW]

I wrote my experience as it happened, and wrote my thoughts about it according my experience. I didn't write that 'I won $x and they didn't pay'

I wrote my experience so people will decide themself and they'll be prepared for this type of things at this casino if they choose to play there.

 

[Tirilej]

I wrote my experience as it happened, and wrote my thoughts about it according my experience. I didn't write that 'I won $x and they didn't pay'

I wrote my experience so people will decide themself and they'll be prepared for this type of things at this casino if they choose to play there.

In that case you might should ask if you can change the threadtitle to something more proper, because that is exactly what you are saying.
It's not okey to accuse a casino for not wanting to pay if it's not true!

 

[AGW]

Thread title is the most suitable one for this situation. Another option would be: 'Casinos That Use Tricks To Not To Pay Players'

 

[Tirilej]

Thread title is the most suitable one for this situation. Another option would be: 'Casinos That Use Tricks To Not To Pay Players'

Or AGW's own true about a casino, would also be an okey title

 

[AGW]

Members can see that who write this topic. And I'm sure that they can understand this is AGW's experience. People that don't understand it need a lesson on how to use forums. And I think most of the members here don't need it.

When we see that Tirilej write something, we understand that it is his/her opinion. He/she didn't need to write ''Or AGW's own true about a casino, would also be an okey title... and this is my opinion''. The first part is enough. No need to ad 'this is my opinion' after every sentence. We already know and understand that this is his/her opinion.

 

[Surasanji]

Members can see that who write this topic. And I'm sure that they can understand this is AGW's experience. People that don't understand it need a lesson on how to use forums. And I think most of the members here don't need it.

When we see that Tirilej write something, we understand that it is his/her opinion. He/she didn't need to write ''Or AGW's own true about a casino, would also be an okey title... and this is my opinion''. The first part is enough. No need to ad 'this is my opinion' after every sentence. We already know and understand that this is his/her opinion.

I believe, in this case, Tirilej is just trying to ensure that others understand that she means no offence, and this is simply her opinion.

It is understood that everything written on the forum is opinion unless backed up by absolute fact; it can be difficult without the visual and physical cues involved in face to face language to know when one is doing their best not to offend.

And since Tirilej, in the past, has admitted to English not being her native tongue one can hardly blame her for wanting to get her point across, and also be polite while doing so.

In short: That nice Swedish lady is just tryin' to be nice!

 

[skiny]

... I just want to warn people that if you play with highnoon casino and you lost, there is no problem. If you play and win, they will do everything to not to pay.

You're basing this on being declined once because you had not sent your docs and a second time the next day without even asking why. I have no love for the Club World group. If they do wrong I'd be one of the first people to slap their fingers but you can't accuse people of a malicious act without even asking for an explanation. They didn't do "everything" not to pay you. Everything would include closing your account or accusing you of cheating. Deciding that a casino is never going to pay you two days after you make your withdrawal is another one of those cases where I blink once or twice and then say "that doesn't make sense."

I might be entirely wrong but my gut tells me that you were pissy that the withdrawal hadn't been processed but instead of questioning it, you decided to play some more. It probably didn't take long before you were chasing your losses instead of chasing your withdrawal and that is when you decided it was the casino's fault for declining it.

There are cases pending right now at some casinos where people have been waiting months for a withdrawal to be processed. This is entirely the casino's fault and every bit of sympathy is given to the incredibly patient player who is willing to stand his or her ground and refuse to play it back. You could not wait for a third day and lost your money.

Now the money is gone and you will never know if the casino would have paid you. If you had made every attempt to verify your ID and if the casino continued to resist processing your payment you would have all the reason in the world to complain but you did not. You gave them two days and then you dumped your balance back. Now the case is closed before it was ever open and nobody is going to feel threatened by a casino that hadn't processed a withdrawal 2 days after it was submitted.

... Be prepared to deal with this and know that they'll force you to play until you lose it...

Silly.

 

[Tirilej]

I believe, in this case, Tirilej is just trying to ensure that others understand that she means no offence, and this is simply her opinion.

It is understood that everything written on the forum is opinion unless backed up by absolute fact; it can be difficult without the visual and physical cues involved in face to face language to know when one is doing their best not to offend.

And since Tirilej, in the past, has admitted to English not being her native tongue one can hardly blame her for wanting to get her point across, and also be polite while doing so.

In short: That nice Swedish lady is just tryin' to be nice!

Thanks for those nice words Surasanji. I appreciate them

Unfortunately if anyone accused me of not being nice in this thread it would be the true.
But it is just my opinions I express. That was the first time I said it, but it goes for every post I write of course.

 

[bb28]

The argument the op is using is completely ridiculous as he played it back and there was NOTHING to pay out.

Now........if the op had made a thread who's topic was.......high noon stalled on approving my documents in hopes that I would play back my cashout, I could go with that but this......(sorry to be harsh) but the whole premise is BS!

 

[AGW]

If a casino don't pay, it is better. So you can come here and fill a PAB and it can be solved.

But this type of tricks aren't acceptable for me and for lots of players.

Players who are not ok with this type of things, won't choose this casino anymore.

Players who are ok with this type of things, can continue to play at highnoon casino. But i can advice them that there are quality casinos that don't do this type of tricks and it will be better for them to choose them.

But for sure, this is their decision.

 

[AGW]

I think I found why some members don't understand the situation.

They think that every complaint topic on this forum has to be about 'x casino doesn't paying me' and when they read a topic and don't find it, they start to argue.

This section is a complaint section. Complaints are not only about non-made payments.

When some members understand it and put their prejudices about complaint topics aside, it will be better for whole community.

 

[maxd]

I don't think there is a need of PAB. Because this is not about me personally. The casino's usual routine is this. ....

We've asked you to PAB because you've levelled some serious accusations against an Accredited casino. From our point of view this requires looking into and the details of your case are required to do this, regardless of whether the circumstances are about you or every player that's passed through their (virtual) doors. In other words you were given a choice:

1. have your accusations against an Accred casino stand as written and we'll investigate with your help via the PAB, Or ...
2. refuse to have us investigate, which leaves us no choice but to look at what you've posted and make an judgement call as to what your complaint is really about.

Obviously you've chosen the latter. Clearly other players have not had the same experience you've had so the "happens to all players" argument is your opinion and apparently a flawed opinion at that. Given the situation I've changed the thread title to something more appropriate.

I would still encourage you to PAB but it's obviously your choice. I guess we'll never know what really went on, which is a shame because if there actually is a problem it will go unexamined. THAT is why you should have PAB'd when we asked you to. I hope you'll keep this in mind next time you have a complaint about a casino, especially one that is Accredited.

 

[The Dude]

I've reopened this thread since a couple of things have come to light here.

For one thing, I was pretty much on the road when this issue popped up, and I wish I could have become more involved in this - but I wasn't able to.

Number one: AGW is an affiliate - and an affiliate of High Noon casino for that matter. Perhaps AGW had forgotten to read the policies of being a member of the Webmeister's user group. I'll post the information he should have read here:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forum-faq/forum-policies/

Webmasters and Affiliates
Webmasters need to remember that they are guests in this house; treat it well. We have a higher expectation of posting styles for webmasters than what we expect from players. If you've come here to gripe about a certain casino, that's fine, but please be mindful that a bit of tact can go a long way.

Harassing moderators, disrespecting i-Gaming representatives, beating up players, and exploiting this board is not only uncool, it will not be tolerated. Please understand that the forum is not a marketing tool, a source of traffic, or a place where one can grandstand an agenda. It is a community where we share and discuss topics that pertain to online gaming - and then some. If it appears that you are attempting to undermine or damage the Casinomeister brand via snarky remarks, flaming, or other antagonist behaviour, you will be asked to leave. Just imagine me being a member of your forum and how you'd expect me to act.

Thread title is the most suitable one for this situation. Another option would be: 'Casinos That Use Tricks To Not To Pay Players'

..I understood that High Noon casino is one of the other casinos that does everything to not to pay. I played with it back and of course lost, as they wanted.

I just want to warn people that if you play with highnoon casino and you lost, there is no problem. If you play and win, they will do everything to not to pay. Be prepared to deal with this and know that they'll force you to play until you lose it.

Find better places to play. So you'll know that if you win, you'll be get paid.

I'm revoking your Webmeister membership as of now.

I've also reopened this thread to allow the affiliate manager of this casino group to present any information they feel necessary to refute what you've written.

 

[KasinoKing]

Number one: AGW is an affiliate - and an affiliate of High Noon casino for that matter.

He's an affiliate promoting a casino he says uses tricks not to pay...??
Jeeeeze!

KK