My question to Casinomeister

dwindmil1

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As a preface, this will be my last post on CM, unless I am asked to post something more.

This is in reference to the past thread, which can be found here:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/inetbet-is-terrible-casinomeister-no-teeth.42117/

CM,

To reply to your post, NO, I did not do a chargeback on the deposit. I didn't even deposit with a credit card - an Ewallet was my method of deposit. Its because of your accusing me of doing this that your statements are false and in ill manner.

I'm probably as suprised as you are regarding the results of the poll. And, to keep the playing field fair, I didn't even vote in it like I assume you and Max did.

My last question to you is this:

Are you willing to re-mediate a dispute with the casino, from a position that I am to recieve a refund of the deposit, but nothing more?

The fair-minded members of the community have spoken, and a majority do feel that how the situation has been handled up until now has not been appropriate.
 

GGW Laurie

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Im sorry, I just dont see why you should get even your deposit back, CM closed that thread as the teeth just didnt bite into what you had posted, there was NO bite, just deception and insults.

Now had you been on the up and up and all the other BS had not have came into play, you would have had more backing from this forum and CM.

Sometimes as gamblers we just have to bow out with grace , a good gambler knows when its time to fold the cards and leave the table when they shout foul and are proved wrong.

I do wish you luck in your gaming ventures and hope this has taught you a well deserved lessen, dont mean to be harsh but thats just the way it is imo.

Laurie
 

vinylweatherman

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The problem is the insults.

If I used such language in a public place, and in such a manner to someone else "just doing their job", I could be given a fixed penalty of £80 for a "Ssection 5 public order offence", or even arrested, night in the cells, and released with a lecture the next morning.

It seems Max and Bryan feel that you should willingly relinquish your $50 as a gesture of apology to the CS agent(s) you insulted. Then you can ask that Bryan shows mercy for your act of contrition by NOT throwing you out of the site.

You might have a LEGAL case for getting your $50 back, since a private company CANNOT take the law into it's own hands and issue "fines". Good companies often return the gesture, by giving the customer MORE than they are legally entitled to.

I ordered something online last week, but was sent the wrong item, a cheaper one. The company apologised, and said that not only will they send the correct item, but that I could keep the wrong one as a gesture of goodwill on top of their apology. Legally, their terms and conditions would require me to return the incorrect item in exchange for the correct one.

This incident may also steady you in future if you are tempted to call CS at another reputable casino "assholes".

If THEY had started it (insults), it would be a different matter.
 

jod5413

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Boy Howdy, you really do have the balls to actually think Bryan or Max would ever willingly help you after all this BS?

You will be lucky to get your deposit back, period. You have burned your bridges with your attitude and it is probably best for you to move on. You have hopefully gotten smarter about how to deal with future problems on line or in your "real" world.
 
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dwindmil1

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Boy Howdy, you really do have the balls to actually think Bryan or Max would ever willingly help you after all this BS?

You will be lucky to get your deposit back, period. You have burned your bridges with your attitude and it is probably best for you to move on. You have hopefully gotten smarter about how to deal with future problems on line or in your "real" world.

Since you asked, I'm not sure if they are willing to assist me or not. You and the few others who have commented here are entitled to your own opinions, of course, however the majority of those polled from the CM community do feel as if I should be denied my winnings and refunded my deposit amount. I think that this is something which is important to keep in mind when you voice your own opinions.

And as far as my attitude is concerned - please look over every comment and post I have made on this forum. I have never spoken with anything close to a tone of anger, nor have I been anything but respectful to members of the community. It is my opinion that much of the hostility which has been shown to me is due to the fact that this dialogue has been over the internet, as opposed to face to face.

I would be more understanding of your own tone if you were addressing a fraudster - someone who has made multiple accounts and is trying to cash on multiple bonuses, for example. However, I've clearly done nothing of the sort.

It is my opinion that I articulated my thoughts well in the post that I made here:

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Those thoughts apply in the same general sense as to what will be done after the vote as they did when it was being taken.

And finally, if you think I've addressed anything here poorly, please let me know and I will try to rectify it. Otherwise, I hope that you have a nice evening.
 

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A courtly rogue he may be, but the equation is simple:

History of chargebacks + several failed PABs + dodgy documents = Scammer

If I were Bryan I would show him the door, but it ain't my call......I can only hope.

(As for the majority you mentioned - 14 vs 11 is hardly overwhelming)
 

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Dwindmil1 - DO NOT PM ME ANY MORE.

The first one was unwelcome and unsolicited and I don't much care for it.

If you have something to say - do it here so people know what you really think. PMs are not allowed to be posted so your secret is safe with me ;)
 

ksech

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Nifty, if he posts again he's breaking his own terms...

I still stand by my original post in the other thread, I think you were out to scam the casino and it backfired on you. At least you didn't deposit a large sum of money. I don't think you deserve ANYTHING back, but it's not up to the members of the forum to decide this, it's up to the casino. You can start as many threads/polls as you want and it still won't change the outcome. Live and LEARN (you are still listing student as your occupation?).

Several things (for those who didn't see the other thread)... Bryan (CM) is lying about your chargeback? Why would he do this? You were given TWO chances to fulfill the WR, which you DIDN'T do and now you think you deserve money? You use abusive language towards the CSR, but that's okay because it's online and it's not as if you are talking face to face?

You've thrown your temper tantrum and CM closed the thread, and now you are right back at it. The casino is the one you need to make amends to, although in my opinion, they already did that when they unlocked your account twice. Live and learn and move on...
 

dwindmil1

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Dwindmil1 - DO NOT PM ME ANY MORE.

The first one was unwelcome and unsolicited and I don't much care for it.

If you have something to say - do it here so people know what you really think. PMs are not allowed to be posted so your secret is safe with me ;)

I didn't want to waste other member's time with this, but Nifty29 made some incorrect observations in his previous post - an incorrect and misleading poll tally among other things - and I wanted to bring it to his attention.

In this post he is making it seem as if I have been bombarding him with PM's, and this is simply not the case. I sent him one, reasonably solicited PM, and I completely stress that in it I was nothing but respectful.

Its obvious that you do not like me, Nifty29, but please do not continue to slander me with accusations that are not truthful. Thanks.
 

dwindmil1

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Nifty, if he posts again he's breaking his own terms...

Questions have been asked of me, ksech, which is why I have made subsequent posts to my first one in this thread.

I even make reference in my first post to my willingness to answer questions that others ask of me. I do not understand why this is such a big concern for you and at two other posters here.

You even ask me more questions further on in your post. And as far as those specific questions are concerned, I have addressed them in writing many times over. I'd rather not clutter up this form by copying and pasting or slightly rewriting what I have expressed before, but if you would like me to, I will.

My sole purpose of the first post was to post a question to CM, given the input and thoughts of the majority of polled CM community members. I do apologize to everyone else reading this that the discourse has apparently gotten so far off-track.
 

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Bryan closed the previous thread and in doing so closed with this comment:

And take a gander here:
1.11 - Please do not exploit this board to promote your own personal agenda. If the moderators (and members) feel that you are spamming the board with links or ad copy to your website, harassing members with agenda laden posts, or consistently ragging on a casino that did you wrong, etc., your account may be suspended.

I've wasted enough time with this. Thread upgraded to closed. Go find another playground to play your games. Thank you.

Opening this new thread is a way of circumnavigating the closure of that thread IMO....
 

Nifty29

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:rolleyes:

Dwindmil1 seems to have a problem with the poll results. He says they are 14-6 in favor of returning his deposit. He is wrong.

Total posts saying 'return his deposit' = 14

Total posts saying 'dont return his deposit' = 11

He doesn't think the last option that CM put in counts :lolup:

I did'nt say you were 'bombarding' me with PMs. I just said don't PM me again.

Its obvious that you do not like me, Nifty29, but please do not continue to slander me with accusations that are not truthful. Thanks.

You are right. I don't like you.

Players like you are the ones that cost us all money in the long run through higher WR and lower payouts.

CM says you're a chargebacker and thats good enough for me.

You can quibble all you like, but you totally got OWNED by CM and Inetbet - and that's gotta hurt.

Go try your con job at another forum where people are stupid and don't know their ass from their elbow.

P.S. How do you 'slander' a username? :rolleyes:
 

ksech

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In Bryan's post here...
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/inetbet-is-terrible-casinomeister-no-teeth.42117/ post #42,
The casino is the one who informed Bryan of a chargeback from a PREVIOUS PAB, he didn't say it was from this one. It doesn't matter if this case/issue had no chargeback, the chargeback is now in your "history". It's kind of like when you try to get a loan, for say a car, they do a credit check. Well, that's what the online casinos do also, it's a way of protecting themselves.

This is ONE of the reasons WHY, honest players have to jump through hoops when they follow the rules, the minority who try to scam the casinos. As I stated before, you can start as many threads/polls as you want, but you are abusing CM/and staff with this little rant. From the "sounds" of it, you need to learn how to curb your anger, civility will get you further than acidic barbs...
 

dwindmil1

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In Bryan's post here...
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/inetbet-is-terrible-casinomeister-no-teeth.42117/ post #42,
The casino is the one who informed Bryan of a chargeback from a PREVIOUS PAB, he didn't say it was from this one. It doesn't matter if this case/issue had no chargeback, the chargeback is now in your "history". It's kind of like when you try to get a loan, for say a car, they do a credit check. Well, that's what the online casinos do also, it's a way of protecting themselves.

This is ONE of the reasons WHY, honest players have to jump through hoops when they follow the rules, the minority who try to scam the casinos. As I stated before, you can start as many threads/polls as you want, but you are abusing CM/and staff with this little rant. From the "sounds" of it, you need to learn how to curb your anger, civility will get you further than acidic barbs...

Again, I don't understand this chargeback business. I never charged anything back from INetBet, and I never charged anything back from a previous PAB.
 

dwindmil1

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:rolleyes:

Dwindmil1 seems to have a problem with the poll results. He says they are 14-6 in favor of returning his deposit. He is wrong.

Total posts saying 'return his deposit' = 14

Total posts saying 'dont return his deposit' = 11

He doesn't think the last option that CM put in counts :lolup:

I did'nt say you were 'bombarding' me with PMs. I just said don't PM me again.



You are right. I don't like you.

Players like you are the ones that cost us all money in the long run through higher WR and lower payouts.

CM says you're a chargebacker and thats good enough for me.

You can quibble all you like, but you totally got OWNED by CM and Inetbet - and that's gotta hurt.

Go try your con job at another forum where people are stupid and don't know their ass from their elbow.

P.S. How do you 'slander' a username? :rolleyes:

Didn't you just say that you wouldn't disclose any of the information I PM'ed you about?

Looks like you are breaking your own, and now the message board's "Terms" ;)

I'd like to further point out that you are incorrect when you say that there are 14 "posts saying return my deposit".

First of all, they are called "votes", not "posts".

Second of all, the correct number is 16, not 14. If some people feel I should be entitled to my depost plus winnings, it is appropriate to include them in the number of people who are "for" me.

I also pointed out that in the interest of fairness I didn't vote in my own poll. I'm sure that CM and Max didn't extend the same consideration. Take that into account as well by either adding one "for" me or subtracting two "aganist".

Again, above is what I wished to point out to him individually. It was not my intention for this to become a long, public, drawn out thing. I'll keep this in mind if I have any future dealings with Nifty29.

Its unfortunate that things have gotten so far off track here. However, my only and last question to CM still stands.
 

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RESPECT

Most people that will feel that you respect them-will respect you back.
Most people that do not know where the door is-will try to find the nearest window,for some fresh air,maybe just for understanding their mistakes from the past...
Most people who feel that they are wrong-will not move even one step ahead,which is the best solution for themselves...

Have a pleasent evening.
 
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