MR Vegas

[Slottery]

Probably expectations for VS new brand were much higher, not really understand thinking behind launch it like this if you want to do it much differently (usually in beta launch you have your new things there, what ever they are), can't really see much been done. Usually it's relatively easy to get active players to checkout your new site but after doing it maybe not that many bother to come to take a look at it second time.

Just gives a look that you were in big hurry to get something new out and only new idea so far been to accept deposit from regulated countries without having their own license which then can be compared like opening Curacao one, don't from my head know any other operator who would accept Swedish or Danish players under MGA license which Mr Vegas is doing if posts here by their staff are accurate. Somebody could call it taking unlicensed deposits which have cost accredited status for operators (if you take UK deposits when operating under Curacao license), don't see this being much different.

All others follow countries regulations who provide gaming licenses in Europe and one decide that it's cool to ignore these regulations and with that thinking, you can accept all Swedish players who self-excluded in Seplpaus (national self-exclusion in Sweden), offer them bonuses what you can't do with SGA license etc.. Can't just at the moment see anything else "innovative" in that site. Happy to see some new cool things there why this was launched but atm just looks like "we need fast, cheap and very easy boost to cashflow".

 

[Nordog]

Its totally legal for any EU casino to accept swedish players, asking AS they dont target swedes.

 

[colinsunderland]

Well I'm still waiting for @Team.Videoslots to tell me how MrVegas staff can access my Videoslots account information. Despite them sending 3 or 4 emails they have avoided that question everytime, despite me asking more than once.

@Mr Wild has gone very quiet too, as usual, makes comments on Videoslots policy, then doesn't comment again when pushed on things they are doing wrong.

 

[Kroffe]

Its totally legal for any EU casino to accept swedish players, asking AS they dont target swedes.

Well, i did get offers sent to me via email&sms

 

[Nordog]

In swedish?

 

[Kroffe]

In swedish?

No in English.
I know they are not allowed to have SEK as currency, Swedish language on site etc.
But imo sending offers to Swedish players is targeting Swedish players.

Edit: I dont mind it, in fact i like it.
But its more a loophole than anything else imo. =)

 

[Slottery]

Its totally legal for any EU casino to accept swedish players, asking AS they dont target swedes.

For some reason most of operators have decided to respect countries who have their own licenses. Of course can take players if think there's no need for that, could take UK players too, just offer euro or dollar as currency. So far operators have respected it so much that have only accept players from these countries under non European licenses.

We'll see what's gonna be new normal in use of loopholes. Maybe good all Sweds problem gamblers can play again without Spelpaus blocks stopping them and of course they will be happy for bonuses after over year without them.

Probably Spelinspektionen is just happy that their licensed company promote their other brand to their existing players and try to get them play under license they don't have to pay these Swedish taxes (maybe could even get back higher RTP:s as tax reasoning don't exist anymore).

Didn't say it's straight illegal but quite questionning if it's cool or not and that exactly same reason have cost accredited status for operators who same way take UK deposits to Curacao and don't give a shite for countries regulations.

 

[Kroffe]

For some reason most of operators have decided to respect countries who have their own licenses. Of course can take players if think there's no need for that, could take UK players too, just offer euro or dollar as currency. So far operators have respected it so much that have only accept players from these countries under non European licenses.

We'll see what's gonna be new normal in use of loopholes. Maybe good all Sweds problem gamblers can play again without Spelpaus blocks stopping them and of course they will be happy for bonuses after over year without them.

Probably Spelinspektionen is just happy that their licensed company promote their other brand to their existing players and try to get them play under license they don't have to pay these Swedish taxes (maybe could even get back higher RTP:s as tax reasoning don't exist anymore).

Didn't say it's straight illegal but quite questionning if it's cool or not and that exactly same reason have cost accredited status for operators who same way take UK deposits to Curacao and don't give a shite for countries regulations.

Does not automatically mean its bad for the players.

I dont know that many curacao sites taking uk/swe players, but we can use 3dice as an example.
I had a good experience playing there, and almost everybody who plays there seem to think the same.

I agree that its not acting in good faith or whatever you want to call it, but as long as they treat the players fairly im ok with it.
I probably wont play there all the time, but its nice getitng bonuses/wheels etc for a change, because as you said, we Swedes dont really get bonuses anymore.

 

[dionysus]

its nice getitng bonuses/wheels etc for a change, because as you said, we Swedes dont really get bonuses anymore.

tbh, i dont miss them; back only a couple yrs i was getting weekly 100% bonus for about 5 yrs running and made fairly good off them; but i dont miss the all-night grinding of WR and not being able to WD at my leisure

 

[Kroffe]

tbh, i dont miss them; back only a couple yrs i was getting weekly 100% bonus for about 5 yrs running and made fairly good off them; but i dont miss the all-night grinding of WR and not being able to WD at my leisure

I wouldnt use them all the time even if i had the option, but i like having the option.
Good way to stretch the budget a bit for a lowroller like me. =)

 

[The Viking]

I wouldnt use them all the time even if i had the option, but i like having the option.
Good way to stretch the budget a bit for a lowroller like me. =)

do you even notice when you stretch the budget with thos bonuses 10% incrediments when lowrolling?
pretty stupid bonus in my opinion

 

[Kroffe]

do you even notice when you stretch the budget with thos bonuses 10% incrediments when lowrolling?
pretty stupid bonus in my opinion

Yeah, i didnt mean their bonus, more bonuses in general.
But the reel race, cashback and wheels i can get on mrvegas also help stretch the budget a bit =)

Used to go mostly for bonuses where cash and bonus money were separate, so you could forfeit the bonus and cash out if you got a hit before reaching bonus funds.
I enjoyed the challenge part of playing with a bonus, even tho most of the times i wouldnt meet the wagering req.

 

[Slottery]

If all others decide as well there is no need to pay taxes to Sweden and follow Spelinspektionen regulations, you should shortly have loads to choose again. Of course you can't be targeted but if you accidentally find site you can be accepted This would be mainly good thing for players, not for Spelinspektionen if everyone decide their license and regulations are not needed and are only extra operation costs.

 

[Kroffe]

If all others decide as well there is no need to pay taxes to Sweden and follow Spelinspektionen regulations, you should shortly have loads to choose again. Of course you can't be targeted but if you accidentally find site you can be accepted This would be mainly good thing for players, not for Spelinspektionen if everyone decide their license and regulations are not needed and are only extra operation costs.

I remember when the license was put into place, the ComeOn group had like half their sites with a license, and half without, and they kept accepting Swedish players on the unlicensed sites.
Guess they wanted the best of two worlds.

But 2-3 months after license kicked in, they stopped allowing Swedish players on the brands without a license.
Im not really sure why.. I cant remember if they got a fine or what the reason was.

 

[brianmon]

If all others decide as well there is no need to pay taxes to Sweden and follow Spelinspektionen regulations, you should shortly have loads to choose again. Of course you can't be targeted but if you accidentally find site you can be accepted This would be mainly good thing for players, not for Spelinspektionen if everyone decide their license and regulations are not needed and are only extra operation costs.

Might it not be a case of MGA backing up UKGC and Spelinspektionen, and suspending an MGA license, where a casino didn't respect the other authorities, by accepting 'illegal' players?

 

[thr0b]

It's probably the only thing that stops casinos under MGA licenses accepting UK players; reciprocal trust.

Strictly speaking, there's absolutely nothing stopping them accepting UK players outside of the eye of the UKGC other than trust.

 

[Slottery]

Might it not be a case of MGA backing up UKGC and Spelinspektionen, and suspending an MGA license, where a casino didn't respect the other authorities, by accepting 'illegal' players?

Good question, will look quite obvious that if this "don't care about regulations of regulated markets" approach is accepted, why would anyone pay taxes to them anymore and follow regulations? It's bit that one operator decided to have different approach than all others, after while we will see what regulators think about it. Couldn't imagine Spelinspektionen would be really happy when one of their license holder prefer to clone their site and start to take Swedish deposits without caring about not having license, paying taxes to Sweden (which VS stated to be reason to decrease their RTP:s as taxes are so high) and follow any other regulations what's coming to limits and other Swedeish specific things.

Also some competitors could think that it's not really fair competition when all others do pay quite high percent of taxes, license fees and follow these Swedish regulations. Sweden regulations was quite big thing for many casino operators who had significant cash flow decrease from there after having get SGA license, pay taxes also to Sweden, follow national wide self-exclusions and of course not be able to provide bonuses to Sweds anymore.

Personally against use of these kind of loopholes which pretty much could be with same reasoning done for UK and other countries as well. If online gambling want to be regulated and get out from that "wild wild west" what many think it used to be years ago, this is not really not right direction to that (just my personal opinion) and encourage also other operators to skip all licenses and regulations and take more "Curacao approach" where all deposits are welcome, no matter which country and legislation. Pitty if that start to happen in Europe where countries regulations have been respected so far. Countries like Finland, Netherlands, Germany (until next summer) are different as they don't have their licenses yet but ones like Denmark, Sweden, UK, Spain etc... have been respected with all operators until now, so would imagine this will be checked quite carefully by regulators which direction is wanted to have, taking one step over smaller regulation like Sweden is pretty soon to next step for UK (they left EU anyway, why not to take their deposits as well just without letting them use pound).

It's probably the only thing that stops casinos under MGA licenses accepting UK players; reciprocal trust.

Strictly speaking, there's absolutely nothing stopping them accepting UK players outside of the eye of the UKGC other than trust.

Exactly the point, we'll see if MGA willing to act like Curacao, Costa Rica and some other countries who let operators to ignore countries regulations. Last quite many years it have been direction to regulated markets, would be quite big backwards to start to ignore them all now.

 

[Slottery]

They seem not to have Sweden or Denmark (or other contries who have own license) in country options when registering account which make them look much better in my eyes (wanted to add due to earlier criticism).

 

[Pixie]

They seem not to have Sweden or Denmark (or other contries who have own license) in country options when registering account which make them look much better in my eyes (wanted to add due to earlier criticism).

So why are they creating account´s for people from Sweden without our knowledge then ?

 

[Slottery]

So why are they creating account´s for people from Sweden without our knowledge then ?

That's bit weird approach if they don't "target Swedish players" which this exactly feel to be (they know countries of their existing players so contacting Swedish players feels exactly targeted). Maybe they can advise if you ask from their support that are they willing to continue letting you guys play therre.

 

[elrudo]

Darn, I fast-tracked the signup and I ran up my EUR 400 initial deposit to about EUR 1K on bonus buys,
hit the withdrawal button to find out that all of the verification has to be done again.

Lost it all before completing the verification of course, stupid mistake

 

[Oscar Arnhem]

@elrudo ,heel dom van je,koste mij maar 30 min en het was geregeld

 

[Tirilej]

So why are they creating account´s for people from Sweden without our knowledge then ?

Maybe it's just a few of the Swedish players, not all of them. I haven't got any email about this casino so if I didn't read this forum I wouldn't know it existed.

I would never complain about it in any way though, but just love to get a chance to play for normal again

 

[Mr_Slot5]

Darn, I fast-tracked the signup and I ran up my EUR 400 initial deposit to about EUR 1K on bonus buys,
hit the withdrawal button to find out that all of the verification has to be done again.

Lost it all before completing the verification of course, stupid mistake

Well this bit I don't get. If, as some people are suggesting, they are transferring player data between the two outfits, why are they not transferring verification info too?

 

[deepsky2]

I made 2 deposits on MrVegas July 3rd but deposits not credited and I still get the message account will be activated with first deposits. My first email went unanswered. I emailed Videoslots support thinking they can help as my deposits on Instadebit shows Videoslots on the deposits but Videoslots said they can not help me. So deposits show receiver as Videoslots but they can't help? hmmmmm what a joke. Emailed MrVegas support and this time they replied and are looking into it.

I agree the new casino is a big let down like said before, exact same but green, congrats Videoslots for being so creative and thinking out of the box.

Is there any difference in the two at all? Not impressed....