LV Bet RTP Changes

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Hi Guys.

I am just posting a small update here to inform you all that RTP changes have now been done to Pragmatic Games Slots too. Every player will receive a pop up with this information and all game descriptions have been updated with the new RTP.

Kind Regards,
Tyler
 

deepsky2

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Its for money money greed and greed because they can. Tired of hearing its a buisness decision. As long game providers supply lower RTP casinos will choose them just because. In my opinion all online casino and reps are not being up front with the truth and its greed and money period. Sad thing these new lower RTP will become the norm then I bet you lower RTPs will be made again and again and well here its a buisness decision and that it is but its a sneaky crooked way to try to smooth things over. The game providers and casinos are all started to act like a government buisness and its BS and smells like it too.
 

Flyingslotsman

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Novibet still offer 96% versions if anyone's interested in maintaining those rtp variances. I've had zero issues with them to date, great casino and happy they're not lowering any rtps of any games, including play n go
 

colinsunderland

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Novibet still offer 96% versions if anyone's interested in maintaining those rtp variances. I've had zero issues with them to date, great casino and happy they're not lowering any rtps of any games, including play n go
Unibet do too, and they pay instantly, faster than Videoslots and no SoW shit with them either.
 

Playford7

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Wonder how many players actually check the RTP and think it makes a difference?..

Yes us seasoned folks on here, but say the average joe or some poor sap watching a streamer..

RTP is massive, especially if you play regular.

credit to L&L and also LVBET for telling us as many don’t.

do all whitehat/caddell sites not offer the full RTP, pretty sure most do my last check, as @colinsunderland said also unibet..

And skyvegas? What is the RTP on there? They pay beyond fast.

do we not have a RTP kind of guide here to let the player know the score regarding the casinos?

didn’t @Kroffe start something similar? If not apologies for awakening him from his honey.
 

thebeast777

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Lowering of RTPs provides casinos with short term gain but medium and long term loss.Seasoned players who do in fact provide the most turnover for casinos soon realize their game play is much worse because even a small tweak of 1% lower makes a big difference. Before long they either stop playing with casino or reduce their losses by playing less. They generally find fairer places to play and why not. It’s actually a very poor business decision but desperate times call for desperate decisions. Experienced players should boycott greedy casinos otherwise , if they survive, it just encourages their competitors to do the same.
 
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trancemonkey

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Imo I have always believed that a slot can be adjusted to whatever percentage you want it to pay. I cannot believe with today’s technology that it isn’t very simplistic to do.

Luckily for you, it's not possible...

We spend a long time tuning games to certain RTP's in order to get them to play well at those RTP's. Each RTP costs money to have tested as well, so how exactly you think it's possible to do this easily is beyond me...

That said, you don't work in the industry making games, so i understand why you might have the simplistic view that "it should be easy to adjust to any RTP".. and yes, there are of course mechanisms that COULD make this simple, but just because it can be done easily, doesn't mean it would make sense to do so in any way.
 

Slottery

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Still wonder how easily people here see right away 1-2% difference in RTP after playing little while, i'm still happy to make a bet from 1000 euros/pounds or what ever currency is preferred if somebody would like to blindtest and tell from 5 slots which 2 are running with 94.xx instead of 96.xx, as it's so easy like many state, it should be easily done if there's one day per game (from many comments it seems that not many hours even is needed as you can see how it plays right away). Any takers for easy money?

From PnG team dev team who make these maths, nobody couldn't accurately tell difference in gameplay but only from very long simulation where amount of spins was bit more than million or something (and then only analysing them afterwards from results, not during the gameplay when you can't store all results to your head from that many rounds really easily), so if somebody wanna take easy bet, just recognize 2 from 5 and get thousand, let me know and we can arrange test environment and judge from this forum to see it's fairly done.

Any game from PnG what's made with different RTP:s can be taken, these should be easy to recognize as people report lower RTP:s after one session as they so clearly play differently.
 

brianmon

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Why have the helpfiles for MG games disappeared?
That's the '?' in the top left-hand corner of the game, which declares the RTP of each game?
Don't the UKGC regulations state that the RTP for each game should be available to view?

Your message to customers also says...
"Please note that the newly adjusted RTP can be viewed within the game’s menu,
as the game's description will also be adjusted accordingly."
 

LV BET

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Why have the helpfiles for MG games disappeared?
That's the '?' in the top left-hand corner of the game, which declares the RTP of each game?
Don't the UKGC regulations state that the RTP for each game should be available to view?

Your message to customers also says...
"Please note that the newly adjusted RTP can be viewed within the game’s menu,
as the game's description will also be adjusted accordingly."

Hi @brianmon,

I've just checked this out and agree, it's not visible. I've escalated this to our Casino Team straight away to figure out what the issue is and get it sorted.

No use having a message to our customer's say to check the game's description if it's not there.

Kind Regards
Tyler
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