Twitch bans Stake, Roobet and others (finally!)

[OliverCooper]

Youtube censors. So they can try, but there won't be any point, because they'll just be shut down within days.

Separately, I'm not really sure what the big deal is about this. How much business does Twitch steer toward these casinos? While I imagine it's a significant percentage (more than 5%, but less than 20%), I'd have never heard of Rollbit or Duelbits if I hadn't read this press announcement. The Barbra Streisand effect.

And so Twitch will also censor. Rumble doesn't, I don't believe. Not sure about Vimeo or other streaming sites. TikTok or Telegraph...?

I can hardly imagine how Rumble would have passed the censors if he had to ? Good that's unlikely to happen.

 

[OliverCooper]

I think the day will come when someone sets up something called GamblersHub, a totally separate platform from general things, where all streamers will have to pay a fee to stream on this site, and access will be restricted to those aged less than 18.

Considering how streaming is developing and becoming popular even among children. Rather, there will be a separate platform that will be available even 10+ ?

 

[jasonuk]

A shame I have to bump this thread, but it appears the monopoly money streamers are playing their next move - and they're coming back to Twitch.

Of surprise to nobody, they've not turned over a new leaf, nor are they intending to conform to the new regulations - it seems things are going so well on their new streaming platform that instead they're willing to risk the ban by promoting a site with minimal google footprint and falsely claim it's "licensed and player protected" - while aggressively pushing players to their discord for further exploitation.

The new casino of choice is DepositWin, which I doubt many will be aware of given google offers just two search results (the website itself, and some random affiliate portal willing to shill it). However, many will have heard of the Versus Odds B.V. shower of shite, including brands such as Wolfy, Horus, Gudar and Luckystar, as well as Vegaz Casino that the twat was shilling two years ago (see this post from January 2021, and this post from March 2021 where @dunover highlights Mirage Entertainment Corporation Limited / Mirage Entertainment NV as the group).

To be clear, this site is not "licensed and player protected" - it's yet another questionable curacao crypto casino, part of a group with a history of ignoring player concerns and confiscating player funds (as discussed briefly in a handful of CM threads in 2021, and highlighted by other community advocates like ThePogg).

So crunch time for Twitch, he's unambiguously in breach of the new policy regarding slots - will they act quickly and ban him, or will they ignore the problem and essentially greenlight the return of the scammers... tick tock!

 

[cheetahwind]

A shame I have to bump this thread, but it appears the monopoly money streamers are playing their next move - and they're coming back to Twitch.

Of surprise to nobody, they've not turned over a new leaf, nor are they intending to conform to the new regulations - it seems things are going so well on their new streaming platform that instead they're willing to risk the ban by promoting a site with minimal google footprint and falsely claim it's "licensed and player protected" - while aggressively pushing players to their discord for further exploitation.

The new casino of choice is DepositWin, which I doubt many will be aware of given google offers just two search results (the website itself, and some random affiliate portal willing to shill it). However, many will have heard of the Versus Odds B.V. shower of shite, including brands such as Wolfy, Horus, Gudar and Luckystar, as well as Vegaz Casino that the twat was shilling two years ago (see this post from January 2021, and this post from March 2021 where @dunover highlights Mirage Entertainment Corporation Limited / Mirage Entertainment NV as the group).

To be clear, this site is not "licensed and player protected" - it's yet another questionable curacao crypto casino, part of a group with a history of ignoring player concerns and confiscating player funds (as discussed briefly in a handful of CM threads in 2021, and highlighted by other community advocates like ThePogg).

So crunch time for Twitch, he's unambiguously in breach of the new policy regarding slots - will they act quickly and ban him, or will they ignore the problem and essentially greenlight the return of the scammers... tick tock!

I'm going with the idea that they've turned a blind eye. Ever since this came to light I've filed several reports and it's become apparent Roshtein is too much in bed with Twitch to have them give a flying rats. That or they don't seem to care about having the content on there and realized they've lost too much revenue from the gambling streams.

 

[jasonuk]

I'm going with the idea that they've turned a blind eye. Ever since this came to light I've filed several reports and it's become apparent Roshtein is too much in bed with Twitch to have them give a flying rats. That or they don't seem to care about having the content on there and realized they've lost too much revenue from the gambling streams.

Once the initial wave of negative publicity died down, there was always going to be a risk that Twitch started being hands-off again - and sadly I have to agree.

I don't think there's a relationship as such, but Twitch have always tried to minimise their responsibility and response to issues, such as their sluggish response to hate raids in the last year or two.

Unfortunately, this inactivity gives the green light to the usual suspects shilling their cowboy crypto casinos again - and a quick look earlier today saw the /virtualcasino category around 70k "viewers" (and 100k combined with /slots) which is already two-thirds of the pre-ban viewership...

While I don't expect the big names to wait 18 months before the next wave of outrage, it does feel like it'll be either that or some legal action trigger (such as Slovakia temporarily banning Twitch over a poker streamer in 2021) that forces Twitch to act again. The question inevitably will be how much damage is caused in the interim...

 

[cheetahwind]

Well I mean what did Stake and Roobet expect? That dLive and Kick were going to give them the same viewership they had before. There wasn't any "new blood" flowing into there casinos that once was with the partnerships on twitch. The only ones who swapped to dLive and Kick were the ones who were still hoping win one of those sweet giveaways and get some of that free cash from the streamers. It wasn't going to be new blood like Stake and others want.
So it's not shocking that Roshtein and of the like of course are looking for new blood to bring into there revenue streams it's just without the listed casinos. I'll give it shorter than your time frame before the next out cry happens. Just that category has to get to the level it was did to get back on the radar.

 

[deleted20230517]

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In the raffles and give aways there where cracks seen as well. The give aways are "giveaways" on the casino platform, with a wagering requirement. Thats just hoarding in new suckers with more then enough of a house advange. They all seem to boost their social media stuff by doing things like "Like, Retweet and Comment" to get maximum exposure for their shit. Complete social media platforms are spammed to the core to promote their gambling venture. And as long as people are watching (and thinking it's any real) they wont go away.

At the end of the day it's all about money. You got streamer A who plays with his own funds and who's not so on often. You got streamer B being sponsored by the casino and thus having zero financial liability and is able to pump 8 to 12 hours a day of a stream. Ayezee got caught too with "Raw cash" while being send the money from a hot wallet from the casino itself. Can it get any dumber then this?