LV Bet RTP Changes

[TheSchwad]

Just logged into LVBEt to find this message:

Kudos to LVBet for doing it this way and not hiding the changes, however, wow, I didn't even know NetEnt or Microgaming RTP was changeable.
Soon we'll be playing 94% and below on all games at all sites, crazy times. Think I'll be checking every game, on all sites from now on.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Yes I wasn’t aware that MG could be changed.

Vote with ya wallet and bin these lot off.

 

[pinnit2014]

Race to the bottom continues.

MG are bad enough at 96, at just under 94 why would you bother.

Least, unlike a few casinos here, they're telling folk i suppose. Meh though.

 

[pinnit2014]

Ditto for Energy as well.

 

[TheSchwad]

It's not all which makes it even more bizarre, Immortal Romance, for example, is still on 96.86%. so why reduce Thunderstruck 2 from 96.65% to 94.12%?

 

[Playford7]

It's not all which makes it even more bizarre, Immortal Romance, for example, is still on 96.86%. so why reduce Thunderstruck 2 from 96.65% to 94.12%?

Probably a typo lol

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

How long have different MG maths models been out then?

 

[L&L-Jan]

How long have different MG maths models been out then?

No clue mate, I wasn't even aware. But we wont go that route, same for net ent. People might moan we did so on play n go, yes but I've always explained why and never hide that fact in general.

Big shout out to LVbet, following procedures and being socially responsible by doing so.

And before April when the poker boom hit again, I was always playing happily at Lvbet and also at the 94% range.

They just to the things that are needed right. And I'm sorry if you feel let down by the change, but if there is an outfit atm you can safely gamble its them.

Plus they still provide proper loyalty tools, which them costs moneys + RTP as well.

But this might be just me...

 

[snorky510238]

Imo I have always believed that a slot can be adjusted to whatever percentage you want it to pay. I cannot believe with today’s technology that it isn’t very simplistic to do.

 

[sapit222]

Its very bad with lowered rtp.

 

[09237653]

Theres another casino for the never play list LVBet well done guys the race to the bottom continues.

 

[brianmon]

Just checked TSII at LV Bet, The game has changed because all my achievements have disappeared.
The '?' on the game, for the helpfile, which shows the RTP has also disappeared.

I'll be checking everywhere I play now. Because, no doubt, there'll be plenty other casinos opting for the lower RTP.
In fact I think I've already played it at some. It would explain why it's been so dead at some sites.

 

[TheSchwad]

No clue mate, I wasn't even aware. But we wont go that route, same for net ent. People might moan we did so on play n go, yes but I've always explained why and never hide that fact in general.

Big shout out to LVbet, following procedures and being socially responsible by doing so.

And before April when the poker boom hit again, I was always playing happily at Lvbet and also at the 94% range.

They just to the things that are needed right. And I'm sorry if you feel let down by the change, but if there is an outfit atm you can safely gamble its them.

Plus they still provide proper loyalty tools, which them costs moneys + RTP as well.

But this might be just me...

I haven't long been with LV Bet and will continue to play here as it is a great site, love the loyalty scheme and tournaments. Their safer gambling team is great as well, frustrating as the constant checking can be, they're looking out for the player. Always pay out promptly and verification was turned around quickly.

I will just be more cautious with the games I play, but it only takes a few extra seconds to check the RTP.

 

[TheSchwad]

Just checked TSII at LV Bet, The game has changed because all my achievements have disappeared.
The '?' on the game, for the helpfile, which shows the RTP has also disappeared.

I'll be checking everywhere I play now. Because, no doubt, there'll be plenty other casinos opting for the lower RTP.
In fact I think I've already played it at some. It would explain why it's been so dead at some sites.

Another kicker then if other sites go this way, already had to rebuild achievements when the change to HTML5 happened, don't think I'd bother doing it again, especially at 94%.

 

[Playford7]

This is something I ain’t thought of actually, the achievements on many games resetting..

Credit for LVbet telling players about the RTP changes, but it would also be beneficial to players to be warned the achievements may or will be reset when the changes happen.

 

[EkJR]

Think it's almost time to pack slots in for good. The RTPs are only going one way and in the long run your going to lose your money quicker.

 

[deucebag]

Can we assume that all NetEnt and MG games have adjustable RTP now? I've tended to prefer games from these providers because I've had the impression that the games were exactly the same everywhere, with RTP "set in stone". But looks like those days are over.

Having to look up the RTP of a game every time I play is a hassle. And how can we trust that the stated RTP is correct? There's always going to be doubt in the back of my mind. We've seen before that the stated RTP was wrong.

 

[Slottery]

It's good way that RTP:s keep reducing, helping for problem gambling for longer term when people start to see that being enough under 100%, now these days some honestly seem to think that they can win money from this games with different strategies or what so ever, just not possible without some tricks to get some extra EV.

But guess people still keep playing these even RTP:s go somewhere near to lotteries (physical machines seem to remain popular doesn't matter what shitty RTP:s they have. Many just don't seem to realize that playing slots is one of worse financial investments you can do in this world, no difference if RTP is 40% or 98%, still horrible investment and there's nothing you can make it better (without any fraud/abuse or what ever you wanna call it).

 

[Kroffe]

Can we assume that all NetEnt and MG games have adjustable RTP now? I've tended to prefer games from these providers because I've had the impression that the games were exactly the same everywhere, with RTP "set in stone". But looks like those days are over.

Having to look up the RTP of a game every time I play is a hassle. And how can we trust that the stated RTP is correct? There's always going to be doubt in the back of my mind. We've seen before that the stated RTP was wrong.

As far as i know, those are the only 5 games with adjustable rtp so far from Netent.
And as others have said, i had no idea MG had any slots with adjustable rtp settings.

But 5 now almost surely means more to come, so you have to check every time you play if you want to make sure.
No providers left to trust.
Sad times ahead.

 

[pinnit2014]

As far as i know, those are the only 5 games with adjustable rtp so far from Netent.
And as others have said, i had no idea MG had any slots with adjustable rtp settings.

But 5 now almost surely means more to come, so you have to check every time you play if you want to make sure.
No providers left to trust.
Sad times ahead.


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There is....

BTG.

Oh, wait.

 

[Mr_Slot5]

The main kick in the nuts to players is that some of these casinos will be dropping RTP out of greed or because they don't want their financial results looking worse than other comparable casinos. I can almost guarantee you that it won't all be because their hands have been forced.

So, you have casinos boosting their own bottom line (in some instances through greed) yet also bonus banning players for having the bare faced cheek to try to boost their own odds of a cashout.

The whole thing is absolutely rancid IMO and the regulatory bodies need to accept their fair share of the blame too.

 

[EkJR]

Amazing that the most trusted games developers are now Blueprint and Big Time Gaming...how long til they start adjusting RTP..

 

[pinnit2014]

What’s the lowest they can go in the U.K.? Don’t think there is one, may be wrong though.

If not, awaiting the first provider to plump for a 89% in 2021

 

[Mr_Slot5]

What’s the lowest they can go in the U.K.? Don’t think there is one, may be wrong though.

If not, awaiting the first provider to plump for a 89% in 2021

90% I believe

If the UKGC really wanted to protect players they could cap at 94%

 

[Guntis]

I reckon there are more people out there that never heard of such term as RTP than those who know about it and are aware of its changes. Plus there will be always new gamblers making their very first deposit without any knowledge on what awaits them there.

Casinos and game providers know that very well!