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Lasseters BJ

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by two_card, May 8, 2004.

    May 8, 2004
  1. two_card

    two_card Dormant account

    I am having terrible sessions with Lasseters BJ.

    Typical loss is 6-7%.

    Looks like their games is somewhere around 99.5%.
    Does not list the number of decks used - infinite ?

    Please comment on your play.

    I have done well at the VP games -but would like a lot less variance.
  2. May 8, 2004
  3. Flavio4321

    Flavio4321 Dormant account

    I am doing OK at their BJ

    I think lasseters use an infinite deck. I played last month and had one of my best BJ sessions ever. I won 110 units in 2000 hands.
    Are you playing basic strategy??, do you know that dealer dont peek for black jack?

    Good luck at lasseters.
  4. May 8, 2004
  5. cipher

    cipher Banned member - being a jerk


    I'd be interested to know how long it takes for an initial withdrawal to be processed and received from Lasseters. About 3 months ago the initial withdrawal had to be sent by mail and it ended up taking just short of 4 weeks.

    Additionally, Lasseter's Blackjack has the distinction for my recording no less than 35 losses and/or pushes in a row, so under no circumstances do you want to be chasing any ANY wagers there. Another thing that I've found about their system is that a large amount of "pushes" is generally a very good indicator that one of the aforementioned huge HOUSE runs is occurring or is about to occur.
  6. May 8, 2004
  7. Clayman

    Clayman Dormant account

    Pennsylvania, USA
    If Lasseter's is still using an infinite deck, you should hit, rather than double, A,4 vs 4 (it crosses over at 27 decks) and also hit A,2 vs 5 rather than double which also crosses over somewhere between 8 decks and an infinite deck.

    You will save 0.83% of your initial wager by hitting these 2 hands rather than doubling them.
  8. May 8, 2004
  9. eek

    eek Dormant account

    The odds are pretty crappy for BJ.

    The long-term average player return for this game, as approved by the Regulatory Authority is: 97.64%.

    Not sure why its so bad tho, Its an 8 deck shoe now, no peek, one card onto split aces.

    The calculator at the wiz's site sez around 0.5%
    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    Whatever I'm missing adds almost another 2% to the HA.

    (.....even using the worst rules in the wizs calculator I can only get a max of just over 1%)
    Last edited: May 8, 2004
  10. May 8, 2004
  11. bewitch

    bewitch Dormant account

    Home, sweet home
    :rolleyes: I never deposit there and is thinking about it since it's under reputable casino here now. Should I try their BJ or not?
  12. May 8, 2004
  13. bethug

    bethug Banned User - Winner of the "<a href="http://www.c

    lasseters, hype is overated, the software sucks and the black jack too. I dont want to wait for no check, i want my money sent to neteller quick.

    Lasseter is another casino i question if it fair play. The reason is i cant beat it. I can win at micro , rtg , wagerlogic, even boss. but lasseters black jack results suck. I will not pay there

    To me it all bad
    1. software sucks
    2. payout to long
    3. I believe the black jack is fixed

    why play there?? :what:
  14. May 8, 2004
  15. Flavio4321

    Flavio4321 Dormant account

    Yes this is true, my first withdrawal was sent by check and it took 3 weeks. Now I am a bronze player and I can withdrawal to my neteller account.
    I cant believe that all of you had such a terrible experience at their BJ game, as I said, I am having a great time with their BJ.

    ......The long-term average player return for this game, as approved by the Regulatory Authority is: 97.64%................

    I think this is the actual long term player return, and not the theoretical, I mean this return includes player mistakes, keep in mind that not everybody plays basic strategy. Even I was making mistakes doubling on A,4 vs 4 and A,2 vs 5.
  16. May 8, 2004
  17. Clayman

    Clayman Dormant account

    Pennsylvania, USA
    Hi eek - how you've been? :)

    I was guessing this is simply the payback percentage based on total dollars paid out over total dollars wagered. It's utterly meaningless in determining the HA and only shows how badly players play or how unlucky they have been on big bets.

    Are you saying the game is no longer an infinite-deck game and is definitely an 8-deck game?

    An infinite-deck would add about 0.09% (and also change BS) to an 8-deck and the full no peek would add about another 0.13% to the HA as calculated by the Wiz calculator, making it about a 0.66% HA overall. I'm not sure how many splits Lasseters allows.

    Another good calculator to use is at Ken Smith's website You must register/login in order to see the link.

    His calculator takes into account no hole card rules but not re-splits.

    As Damian says, it's a crappy game and I don't play there much due to the high HA. When I did play there, I got a 107% payback in 305 hands.
  18. May 9, 2004
  19. two_card

    two_card Dormant account

    I get the money in Neteller in 2-4 days.
    The first withdrawal is sent snail mail.

    If the withdrawal screen does not have a Neteller option - contact Lasseters.
  20. May 9, 2004
  21. slotchik

    slotchik Dormant account

    HUH?? They pay IMMEDIATELY..never more then 48 hours to neteller and firepay. I dont know why you're saying payment too long!!!
  22. May 9, 2004
  23. bethug

    bethug Banned User - Winner of the "<a href="http://www.c

    if i depoist neteller , why do i have to get my winnings in the mail the first time around??? If you like i cool. There just to many better places to play at to me :rolleyes:
  24. May 9, 2004
  25. slotchik

    slotchik Dormant account

    I have no idea why you say that...

    as long as your neteller addy and the casino addy match, you can deposit and withdraw any way you wish!

    I deposit firepay sometimes and withdraw neteller...( used to when I had a neteller account ) and they do withdrawels at 7PM EST every day. If you withdrawel at 5PM, you'll have money in your neteller/firepay by 7 or so...

    I've played there for years. At first, yes I got a check, and it took 10 days to get to the US from AUS. but now it's a matter of hours.

    Even if it's just the first check, who cares??? They probably want to make sure you are who you say you are and that your address is correct..and after that, you get your money fast.
  26. May 9, 2004
  27. eek

    eek Dormant account

    Fine thx Clayman.
    Nice to see you around too.

    I have found the new Lasseters BJ software pretty streaky too, but have always been happy enough to play there.

    I also like their slots for just messing about, the low minimums mean you can play for ages, and experiment a bit.
    On a slots note(for slot dudes), theres a 97.5% slot machine (or two) with three reels (lower variance), and multi-line payouts. (7 I think).
    I ran it on a single line(I was looking at the single line variance),
    It went for 4-8 hours a day for 2-3 weeks on a $10 freebie, using the $10 as 1000 units.
    Max gain was 70%, max loss 60%.(twice)

    When I upped it to 3 lines,(when I got bored) it only lasted a couple of days.

    I also used ultra fast frame-grabbing software on the reels to count the symbols for calculating the payout percentage for each symbol. (sad, I know...)
    I gave up on reel 1 when I passed 350 symbols and no repeated sequence.
    These internet slot machines must use random sequencing as they 'spin'.
  28. May 12, 2004
  29. CJack

    CJack Dormant account

    Hello everyone,

    First post.

    Lasseters BJ - 1st time I have played their BJ:
    Todays results:

    Lost 48.5 units in 751 unit bets in one session.

    I see no reason to return to Lasseters BJ.
    Some math people could tell me how bad this result was.
  30. May 12, 2004
  31. Clayman

    Clayman Dormant account

    Pennsylvania, USA
    Hi CJack and welcome,

    Completely unremarkable - assuming you played 751 hands and flat-betted, although you probably played fewer hands if you put 751 units into play, maybe 1 in 12. 1 in 14 if you played 680 hands, allowing for doubles.

    If you varied your bet size, it's a whole new ball game.

    There are alot better BJ games out there. But at least you know you will be paid here.
  32. May 12, 2004
  33. bewitch

    bewitch Dormant account

    Home, sweet home
    I didn't like the BJ there. However, I think the VP is great!

    My frist withdrawal is required at 3:30 p.m. and got it at 8:p.m. at my Neteller account :thumbsup:
  34. May 17, 2004
  35. WilliamIMS

    WilliamIMS Dormant account

    The roulette at Lasseters certainly seems to be fixed.

    I have no problems winning when I bet $0.01, but as soon as I increase my stake, even to $0.05, I receive a very suspicious error message:

    "Problem: No response from server. Closing Game."

    And then they take the money I wagered!

    Customer support has been less than helpful.
  36. May 17, 2004
  37. bethug

    bethug Banned User - Winner of the "<a href="http://www.c

    intercasino, phoneician and luckynugget 5 times better , so why play there
  38. May 18, 2004
  39. WilliamIMS

    WilliamIMS Dormant account

    The low minimum stake is why I play there.

    Do you know of any other casinos that offer such a low minimum stake?

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