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Just a warning so others don't make the same mistake:
Inetbet confiscated more than $3,200 when I hit a random jackpot.
I played a classic slot bonus coupon, and apparently I misread the rules:
Additional Rules:
*" Real series slots coupon: Only applies to real series range of slots. *"Classic Slots: Does not apply to Real Series range of slots.
I thought it meant that classic slots are not to be played with a real series slots coupon,
but Inetbet claims it says that you can't play real series slots with a classic slots coupon.
Now if the wording had been

"Classic Slots COUPON: Does not apply to Real Series range of slots."

Then I would have understood what they mean and not played real series.
I found out when my play did not count towards meeting the WR, then I played some slots that did.
The manager at Inetbet has NO understanding and exercise their (IMO) unclear and unfair rules merciless.
Also my gameplay was voided and the original deposit+bonus returned to my account.

Oh, and to add insult to injustice, I got this mail a couple of weeks after:
Hi,
Its Brian here from iNetBet.
This mail is in reference to the Progressive Jackpot that you hit with us.
We would also like to include you in the recent winners section of our upcoming August newsletter. Should you wish to submit a short testimonial we will be glad to include this. Similarly if you have a screenshot of your win, please send this over to us and we will include this as we did this month for some other big winners.
Once again many congratulations from all at iNetBet.
Best Regards

Brian
iNetBet Casino

Yeah right!
Needles to say, this casino lost a customer!
 
Just a warning so others don't make the same mistake:
Inetbet confiscated more than $3,200 when I hit a random jackpot.
I played a classic slot bonus coupon, and apparently I misread the rules:

I thought it meant that classic slots are not to be played with a real series slots coupon,
but Inetbet claims it says that you can't play real series slots with a classic slots coupon.
Now if the wording had been

"Classic Slots COUPON: Does not apply to Real Series range of slots."

Then I would have understood what they mean and not played real series.
I found out when my play did not count towards meeting the WR, then I played some slots that did.
The manager at Inetbet has NO understanding and exercise their (IMO) unclear and unfair rules merciless.
Also my gameplay was voided and the original deposit+bonus returned to my account.

Oh, and to add insult to injustice, I got this mail a couple of weeks after:


Yeah right!
Needles to say, this casino lost a customer!

Sorry this happened to you. If Inetbet is listening, it may be time to think about adding live chat to the casino! JMO.
 
The only conclusion I can come to when reading these additional rules is that the real series slots do not include the classic slots and therefore the real series coupon cannot be used to play classic slots but there is nothing to indicate the opposite.

There were several different coupons/bonuses listed in the additional rules and it is impossible to guess that this actually meant a classic slots coupon. I cannot accept Inetbet's explanation if this is the only wording in denying the RJ winnings.

Babs,

If you have proof that they have taken more than authorised without a plausible reason why not post it here. In fact, if this is a recurring error, you should make it known so that everyone should be on his guard. Furthermore, it gives them an opportunity to defend themselves openly.
 
Oh, and to add insult to injustice, I got this mail a couple of weeks after

OMG! Not to sound like a caveman, but I am very glad for two things!

1. It didn't happen to me!
2. That CS dude does not live in my town and visit the same pubs I do!

Like you wound't deposit theese $3200 back into the casino again... And the nerve to send you that email? I would think they gave you the whole amount just for that mistake! Atleast in my business such mistakes are not cheap regarding customers! Only goes to show they do not give a damn on their customers! Unless they confiscate winnings all the time that is, and have no control over what players they confiscate winnings from.

When you get your winnings confiscated, who is it that takes the money? As a CS i do not understand what's to gain from confiscating anything since it does not affect their paycheck at all. The RJ is defined by average play in the casino and is only fair to give back to the players who infact earned it - when they do this they don't only scam you - they infact scam all their customers in my opinion! There were alot of players who buildt that RJ in hope of getting it, and for what!

And - really - what is $3200 anyway for the casino? I could have been a great marketing tool for them, but only goes to show that their bonus is not ment tio be won apon - it's only to suck you in so you can deposit a little more!
 
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The only conclusion I can come to when reading these additional rules is that the real series slots do not include the classic slots and therefore the real series coupon cannot be used to play classic slots but there is nothing to indicate the opposite.

Exactly what I concluded & tried to explain to their manager "CSR Lynn"

There were several different coupons/bonuses listed in the additioanl rules and it is impossible guess that this actually meant a classic slots coupon. I cannot accept Inetbet's explanation if this is the only wording in denying the RJ winnings.

"CSR Lynn" from Inetbet replied:
this is simply the Terms and conditions, the coupon was clearly displayed, along with the permissible games and playthrough. The offer was even named Classic Slots Coupon
 
Just a warning so others don't make the same mistake:
Inetbet confiscated more than $3,200 when I hit a random jackpot.
I played a classic slot bonus coupon, and apparently I misread the rules:

I thought it meant that classic slots are not to be played with a real series slots coupon,
but Inetbet claims it says that you can't play real series slots with a classic slots coupon.
Now if the wording had been

"Classic Slots COUPON: Does not apply to Real Series range of slots."

Then I would have understood what they mean and not played real series.
I found out when my play did not count towards meeting the WR, then I played some slots that did.
The manager at Inetbet has NO understanding and exercise their (IMO) unclear and unfair rules merciless.
Also my gameplay was voided and the original deposit+bonus returned to my account.

Oh, and to add insult to injustice, I got this mail a couple of weeks after:


Yeah right!
Needles to say, this casino lost a customer!
Sounds great to me, write a testimonial how you were so happy you won, and they then refused to pay out!

Did they return the javkpot to its original amount after they voided the win?

They could have easily compramised with a 50% payout, as I am sure they could see the room for error
 
Why do online casinos always have to make their bonus coupons so complicated ?? Why not just have two bonus coupons: one for Slots and one for Video Poker/Table Games...:rolleyes:

I tried to address this earlier you might remember, however the answer was I just had to read the T&C and all should be cutie pie! So that said - we really shouldn't argue at all - since it is all fine and dandy after reading the rules! <irony>Obviously sweiger should have known this after reading this, so I do not understand why he really would hurt himself playing slots he obviously should not play!</irony> :p
 
Why do online casinos always have to make their bonus coupons so complicated ?? Why not just have two bonus coupons: one for Slots and one for Video Poker/Table Games...:rolleyes:

Oh there you go again Rob.........getting all sensible and practical! :p:D

Don't the casinos convolute terms of bonus coupons so the player can screw up and have their winnings confiscated? And for the cherry on top, you find this out from a "superior" CSR who obviously distains winning players cuz, gee, how fair is it that they have to work while you get to play? :D JMO, of course.
 
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You know what really pisses me off about these so called bonuses (even though i dont use them). It reminds me of other places that do the same thing......restrictions restrictions restrictions

If you wanna give something to someone either give it to them or not. Im just at my last straw with these ppl getting ripped off because of restrictions or stupid rules applied to them

You get a coupon from payless for $5 off your order of $25 or more, you go in, spend $30 and ask why your not getting your $5 off, they say "oh, it only applies to sneakers" well you know what? It didnt say sneakers only on my coupon.

Im just sick of it! Get off your technical a$$es and give real comps if that is what your intention is. Rant over:cool:
 
Hi Everyone,
There seems to be two issues that need addressing here.
Firstly the rules for our coupons. We try to make these as clear as possible. The rules in this particular case state:

*"Classic Slots: Does not apply to Real Series range of slots.

These same rules have been in place for a number of years now and we have had very few complaints/issues. I am unsure as to how we can make this any clearer. I will however have a word with the marketing department so that they can make this even more specific.
Sweiger I am sorry if you did not read the rules but they are the same for everyone. I can also only apologise if the last mail sent to you caused offence. This was not the intention at all. This particular mail was sent out to clients who had recently won Random Jackpots. This information was gained directly from the database and does not give a record of whether or not you were eligible for this win. Again my apologies for this oversight.

The second issue is of more concern. That being babs7262 claiming we have double charged them and that they have proof. If this is the case please send it to me straight away either by PM or to [email protected]
I am however certain that this is an issue with using NetSpend Cards.

Over the past few weeks we have had a number of complaints from clients that they (NetSpend) have been double charging their cards. We would not and never have double charged any client. If a charge is made and the funds received by us but it not credited correctly then we will of course add this to an account.

When looking into this fully with our accounts team and processors it would appear that NetSpend are making incorrect charges onto clients cards for deposits that have been denied/not processed by our processors. i.e. we have not received the funds. In some cases they have these charges showing with them as pending. Instead of contacting the client and then returning the funds they simply keep them. I must reiterate that this is not our doing. When a deposit is made to us the deposit is either successful or denied. There is no in between.

We have tried contacting NetSpend on behalf of a number of clients to let them know that the funds have not been received and they should be returned. However the majority of times they will not speak to us as we are not a direct merchant of theirs. NetSpend users have to contact them and their support team is very poor by all accounts. Happily in the majority of cases after a pending period of around 2 weeks the funds are returned to the client.

Again I must stress that this is not our doing. If any funds have been received by us but have not applied correctly for any reason whatsoever, we will of course credit the account accordingly. However we cannot do this if a card company is simply not accounting correctly and taking funds which have not been processed or received by us. That would mean we are paying for their mistakes. We can only credit received funds.

I hope that this clarifies things for people. If anyone has any queries please PM me or send a mail to [email protected]

Best Regards
iNetBet Promos
 
Oh no its me...better pepare for another burn...

Wow how nice of the inetbet people posting a reply (not)
He posted the exact same thing,"sorry the real slots bonus does not apply to the classic slots" HE TOLD US YOU SAID THAT ALREADY!!!He claimed a damn real series slot bonus and now you are saying he redeemed a classic slot bonus if he would of redeemed a classic slot bonus and got a huge jackpot you would of said he redeemed a real series bonus???Another Retard gaming confiscation and beating around the bush...You screwed the wrong crowd over,now you lose more than you confiscated because players don't trust you now and I don't either.

When it comes to real money in play people don't make mistakes they double and triple check,I don't believe for one second that a real series slot player would of accidentally redeemed a classic slots bonus.He doubled and triple checked,he even probably had the website handy and copied it letter for letter and before pressing the confirm button he reopened the page to make sure one last time he was redeeming the right coupon as I do.

I trust CM members more than I do RTG retard gaming customer support
 
The term ie Classic Slots: Does not apply to Real Series range of slots.

This terms seems to indicate that the real series slots do not include classic slots especially since this bit was written right behind the real series slots coupon. If there is to be something for a classic slots coupon, shouldnt this have stood on its own. I notice there were other coupons eg Carribean 7 coupon and poker coupon with explanations.

While there were few complaints on the wording this has got to be the case. How many JPs were actually won with a classic slot bonus. If there arent many of these and the winnings were therefore not denied how could there be any complaints. Asking the marketing department to have a look at the wording cannot remedy the error caused.


On the email sent to Sweiger to congratulate him I believe that this is an automated thing and all JP winners were sent this and does not indicate eligibility for the JP.
 
Hi Everyone,
There seems to be two issues that need addressing here.
Firstly the rules for our coupons. We try to make these as clear as possible. The rules in this particular case state:

*"Classic Slots: Does not apply to Real Series range of slots.

These same rules have been in place for a number of years now and we have had very few complaints/issues. I am unsure as to how we can make this any clearer. I will however have a word with the marketing department so that they can make this even more specific.
Sweiger I am sorry if you did not read the rules but they are the same for everyone.

As I stated in my first post, I DID of course read the rules. And, taken out of context (like above), you CAN interpret them like you (and Lynn) do.
BUT, in context it reads:
*" Real series slots coupon: Only applies to real series range of slots. *"Classic Slots: Does not apply to Real Series range of slots.

That's why I read the whole line as rules that apply to a real series coupon.
I can't understand why you confiscate winnings when the rules are not clear?
 
Wow how nice of the inetbet people posting a reply (not) ...I trust CM members more than I do RTG retard gaming customer support
Please watch the flaming. If you want "retarded" customer support then go play at Cirrus Casino. iNetBet Promos is a long standing member of this forum and deserves courtesy and respect just as you would expect it from him.

As I stated in my first post, I DID of course read the rules. And, taken out of context (like above), you CAN interpret them like you (and Lynn) do.
BUT, in context it reads:
*" Real series slots coupon: Only applies to real series range of slots. *"Classic Slots: Does not apply to Real Series range of slots.

That's why I read the whole line as rules that apply to a real series coupon.
I can't understand why you confiscate winnings when the rules are not clear?
I've been rereading your posts and I can't understand how you misread their terms and conditions. They seem clear - at least to me. You use the Real Series slots coupons with the real series slots, and you use the Classic Slots coupons for the classic series slots. What didn't you understand, or did you lose me somewhere?
 
Again, sorry for your misfortune, but why bother accepting a bonus when most of the complaints on here are because a bonus was claimed regardless of how it is read? He says / she says is what it is..one reads it one way another reads it another way...I read it and I understood it..no Real series slot play on Classic slot bonus...and vice a versa..

I am just not understanding why anyone that is looking to make a win that hits a Random Jackpot even considers and chooses to play with a bonus...

The only way any jackpot cannot be taken away is to play on the up and up..straight cash..no bonus...

If one chooses to play with a bonus then be prepared to have it confiscated regardless of the reason..it has happened way too many times as we have read on this forum not to heed these warnings...:eek:

I lost money myself, many years ago on this same issue just as many others have and trust me, it broke me real quick in claiming any bonuses since then...

Sad to say, if you claimed a bonus, you lost the jackpot...because the T&C's probably state you are allowed only x amount of dollras of a win to withdraw on them too..
 
I've been rereading your posts and I can't understand how you misread their terms and conditions. They seem clear - at least to me. You use the Real Series slots coupons with the real series slots, and you use the Classic Slots coupons for the classic series slots. What didn't you understand, or did you lose me somewhere?

The exact phrase I posted, which you quoted, is the answer to your question.

I know now, the hard way, what Inetbet mean. As I said earlier, if only their terms had read "classic slots COUPON " even I would have understood.
 
Please watch the flaming. If you want "retarded" customer support then go play at Cirrus Casino. iNetBet Promos is a long standing member of this forum and deserves courtesy and respect just as you would expect it from him.


I've been rereading your posts and I can't understand how you misread their terms and conditions. They seem clear - at least to me. You use the Real Series slots coupons with the real series slots, and you use the Classic Slots coupons for the classic series slots. What didn't you understand, or did you lose me somewhere?

Bryan,

I do find the term confusing. There was no mention of classic slot coupons. We can only deduce that this is the case. However, it is equally possible to deduce a meaning of real series slots not including classic slots when playing with a real series slots coupon.
 
Im sorry but slots are slots. Soon theyll have (not just inet) Roulette coupons and european Roulette coupons. Where is it all gonna end?

btw..I dont use netspend, I deleted that part of my post as to not derail but I guess it was too late. Anyway, sorry again for this derail, just answering a question
 
Honestly, I'm sorry to the OP, but I'm with CM on this one. Just the name of the coupons alone implies which slots they are meant to be played on. I claim almost all of these bonuses every month, except for the Classic Slots one. I don't play Classic Slots.

Real series slots coupon: Only applies to real series range of slots.

In other words, this coupon is to play ONLY the Real Series range of slots.

Classic Slots: Does not apply to Real Series range of slots.

In other words, this coupon is NOT to play the Real Series range of slots.

I have never had a problem with a bonus coupon at Inetbet. There is no max cashout on their deposit coupons nor their comp points. The only time you are limited with a coupon or comp is if it is a no deposit coupon. And if you use a coupon designated for a certain game or games, then you must play those games.

Sorry, but I just don't get it.
 
Real series slots coupon: Only applies to real series range of slots.

In other words, this coupon is to play ONLY the Real Series range of slots.

Classic Slots: Does not apply to Real Series range of slots.

In other words, this coupon is NOT to play the Real Series range of slots.

What coupon? Ther is no mention of a classic slots coupon that you can't use on real series. The whole line in the terms seems to apply to a real series slots coupon as I (and others) read it.
I'm not going to argue more about it, I have explained several times why I misread the rules. I just want to warn others about Inetbet's unclear and ambiguous terms, which they (surprise!) harshly apply in their favour.
 
Sweiger, are you referring to the coupons listed on this page?

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If so, it lists all the coupons available for the month. There is a Classic Slots coupon with a *" beside it, and a Real Series coupon with a *" beside it. When you go to the bottom of the page, and find those symbols...this is what it says:

*" Real series slots coupon: Only applies to real series range of slots.

*"Classic Slots: Does not apply to Real Series range of slots.

Are you referring to the fact that the word "coupon" doesn't follow Classic Slots? I don't know, but to me, the terms are referenced directly to the coupons by the *" symbols....telling you what each coupon is to be used for.

Sorry, not trying to be difficult, but I just don't see how anyone could read this any other way. The word coupon itself may not be there, but they follow one another as the coupons themselves do, and the symbols indicating what each refers to is quite clear.....at least to me.
 
Being a member of the "club for Inetbet mistakes" I'll stand up for the OP to say........well, been there, done that..........once.......it just takes one time to learn about these things. Judging from the frequency of this topic appearing in the forum, I'd say a good job was done to educate those using coupons at Inetbet. I would also say that regrettably, a few players slipped through the cracks, so to speak. JMO :D
 
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Sorry about what happened to you Sweiger, I can not think of anything worse in a Casino than hitting a jackpot only to have it snatched away from you.

I can see how Inet could try to justify denial of winnings but IMO the bonus rules assume knowledge of the slots which makes them ambiguous
and I do not accept the argument that the rules are implied by the name of the bonus.
Bonus promotions are given all sorts of names that are irrelevant to the T&C's
"Super slot bonus" or Sizzling slot bonus" etc but we could argue about semantics all Day the important issues that Inetbet needs to address are these.

1) Why are there Two separate slot bonuses?
(both have the same WR attached and the slots have the same payback, right?)

2) What happened to the unpaid RJ?

3) What advantage, in Inetbets view, did the player gain by playing on the "wrong" slots?

Three very simple but important questions for Inetbet.
Thanks.
 
1) Why are there Two separate slot bonuses?
(both have the same WR attached and the slots have the same payback, right?)

For the point of argument, let's just assume the two bonuses are there just to make it easier to confiscate winnings - evil trickery!

So that in mind, I would be very interested in seing the accual reason why the need for seperate bonuses - which in turns voids accual winnings!
 
Sweiger, are you referring to the coupons listed on this page?

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If so, it lists all the coupons available for the month. There is a Classic Slots coupon with a *" beside it, and a Real Series coupon with a *" beside it. When you go to the bottom of the page, and find those symbols...this is what it says:

*" Real series slots coupon: Only applies to real series range of slots.

*"Classic Slots: Does not apply to Real Series range of slots.

Are you referring to the fact that the word "coupon" doesn't follow Classic Slots? I don't know, but to me, the terms are referenced directly to the coupons by the *" symbols....telling you what each coupon is to be used for.

Sorry, not trying to be difficult, but I just don't see how anyone could read this any other way. The word coupon itself may not be there, but they follow one another as the coupons themselves do, and the symbols indicating what each refers to is quite clear.....at least to me.

Pina,

If this is the version that sweiger read I tend to side with Inet. However, as in the Inet newsletter I received yesterday, these 2 sentences were lumped together under additional rules as a single paragraph and seemed to imply that you cannot play classic slots with a Real series coupon. Though the wording of the 2 versions is exactly the same the implications look different.
 
I think the point here is, is that upon first look at those 2 sentences, they look far too similar for someone who might just skim over the coupon rules.

Maybe InetBet should rectify this rule a bit by stating that instead of just saying "this is for this" and "that is not this", just say like in the first sentence, "this is for this" and "that is for that".

Anyway, besides isn't this an inherent fault in the software that supplies such bonuses? If a bonus is in action for a particular game, then surely the software should either:

a) Prevent the user from playing those series of games until the wagering or so is completed.

or

b) Remind the user that the coupon active isn't possible to be used in [enter game here],warn them and give that user the choice.

or

c) Instead of taking the monies away from the user, apply a set of WR to the win if the user didn't follow the rules correctly.
 
Sweiger, are you referring to the coupons listed on this page?

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If so, it lists all the coupons available for the month. There is a Classic Slots coupon with a *" beside it, and a Real Series coupon with a *" beside it. When you go to the bottom of the page, and find those symbols...this is what it says:

*" Real series slots coupon: Only applies to real series range of slots.

*"Classic Slots: Does not apply to Real Series range of slots.

Yes, that's the page, BUT(!)
See, now they have changed the way it reads:
Additional Rules:
*" Real series slots coupon: Only applies to real series range of slots.
*"Classic Slots: Does not apply to Real Series range of slots.

Now it's on TWO different lines, making the (ridiculous) rules a bit less unclear.
Until yesterday, it was on ONE SINGLE LINE:
*" Real series slots coupon: Only applies to real series range of slots. *"Classic Slots: Does not apply to Real Series range of slots.

I'm not surprised by this smart trick, and I think it PROVES my point, it could be EASILY MISREAD!
 
Okay, the coupon in question came from the Newsletter, but it is the exact same coupon and page format as the current promotions page. The only difference is that, at the bottom, the two definitions/terms, are together on one line. But the wording is exactly the same.

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Classic Slots Bonus Coupon*"

Valid until Nov 22nd
Enter coupon code: FAFDK
Deposit between $10 - $100
Receive 75% Match Bonus
Play through deposit and bonus 20x

50% Real Series Slot Match*"

Valid until Nov 22nd
Deposit between $10 - $100
Enter coupon code: MFCPU
Receive 50% Bonus
Play through deposit and bonus 20x

Bonus #2: 25% High Roller Bonus**

Valid until Nov 22nd
Enter coupon code: EWJNR
Deposit between $200 - $750
Play through deposit 25x
to receive 25% Bonus
Max Bonus $125
(non match bonus) 10x bonus to cashout

50% Caribbean 7 Coupon#
Valid until Nov 22nd
Enter coupon code: DY7YE
Deposit between $10 - $100
Receive 50% Match Bonus
Play through deposit and bonus 30x
(Game restrictions apply)

The bolding of the little symbols is mine, to highlight what to match each bonus up to at the bottom of the page, which relevant points read:

Additional Rules:
*" Real series slots coupon: Only applies to real series range of slots. Classic Slots: Does not apply to Real Series range of slots.
** High Roller Bonus: bonus only available to players who have turned over a given amount in the past 3 months. Accounts that are eligible have been pre-determined. Those accounts not assigned "High Roller" status will be unable to claim this bonus.
#Caribbean "7" coupon: Only play on the following games is permitted. 7 Card Stud, Caribbean Hold'Em, Caribbean Stud Poker.


I still don't see the problem. The writing beside the *" symbol quite clearly tells me that the Real Series slot coupon ONLY applies to the real series range of slots. And..that Classic Slots DOES NOT (ie. in other words, do not play them) apply.

And if I did find any ambiguity in that wording, or if I didn't know the difference between Real Series slots and Classic slots, I'd be getting an answer prior to playing....either here or via email. And yes, they should absolutely have live chat. I've said that a million times as well.

But as far as abiding by their own terms and conditions, I see no problem here at all.

This reminds me of a complaint a couple of years back...I think it was against Grand Mondial (Grand Monaco at that time). I have no use for this casino group...absolutely none. I think they are one of the worst casino groups out there, and wouldn't send my enemy to play there. All that being said, a poster on here signed up there, claimed their Slots Only signup bonus, then proceeded to play Roulette (or some other game) and have their winnings voided. Problem is, there were two different sign up bonuses. One was the aforementioned Slots Only Bonus. The second was called the All Games Bonus. Hmmmm....now if you wanted to play Roulette, or Video Poker, or Blackjack....which bonus would you claim? Myself, I'd claim the All Games bonus for that.....and if I wanted to play slots, I'd claim the Slots bonus. Not this person. Much as I hate the casino...I simply could not even fathom why this person would bother posting here.

And again, in this case, while I sympathize with the OP's disappointment.....if I wanted to play Real Series slots, I'd claim the Real Series coupon (as I do every month, and the straight 50% match coupon). If I wanted to play Classic Slots, I'd claim the Classic Slots coupon. I sure wouldn't claim one, and then proceed to play the other (disallowed) game. There is a reason they are named as such.....exactly to avoid this "confusion".

As to why there are two different coupons? Go and read this:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/rtg-100-guaranteed-strategy-but-is-it-abuse.27613/

All of that running around and collecting bonus rounds to go off at the same time....is on the Classic Slots. It's no wonder any casino would separate the two groups of slots, when that's what people try to do. So they literally guarantee themselves to clear their deposit plus bonus....plus a small amount of winnings...and if allowed to play the Real Series slots on a Classic coupon....then they proceed to go and play the Real Series slots with a larger bankroll than they started with.....AND no WR. I get their reasoning.

I am not in any way implying that this is what Sweiger did here, but simply answering the question as to why there are two different coupons in the first place. It's to combat exactly the strategy posted about in the above thread.

EDIT: No Sweiger, it's not NOW on two separate lines. I was originally looking at the Current Offers page, without realizing that you had been referring to the Newsletter link, which is exactly the same bonuses to the letter, but slightly different page layout. One line, two lines....the wording is identical, and means the exact same thing whether it is written on one line or two. Real Series applies to Real Series, Classic Slots does NOT.

If this were a casino with ANY sort of dodgy past, or a history of writing ambiguous terms, or not paying out large wins, etc.....I'd be more likely to try and believe there was some ill will or wrongdoing on their part. But there have been very few complaints over the years, not legit ones anyway. When someone wins, they pay. And they do NOT have a history of looking for excuses to not pay. The terms are crystal clear to me.
 
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Very sad story indeed.

Is it allowed for Inetbet to have put you on the winners' list in their newsletter? Or was that done automatically as well??

Inetbet doesnt make itself very popular with this action, thats for sure...

Personally, I think that the fact that Inetbet has not given much (real) problems in the past does not mean that their action, also in view of the principle of fairness, was a good one. All casinos, including the accredited ones, should continued to be watched...
 
What coupon? Ther is no mention of a classic slots coupon that you can't use on real series. The whole line in the terms seems to apply to a real series slots coupon as I (and others) read it.
I'm not going to argue more about it, I have explained several times why I misread the rules. I just want to warn others about Inetbet's unclear and ambiguous terms, which they (surprise!) harshly apply in their favour.
I can see both sides of the argument here;
The terms are ambiguous - some people will insist that they are for ever, and some will insist they are not for ever.

I honestly would not waste any more of your time on this.

Ambiguous terms are something I totally hate - they really wind me up! :sob:

Here's a good example from a casino I recently added to my site; I always tell people what each casino's sign up bonus is. This particular one said:-
"You will be entitled to receive a 1st deposit match bonus of 25% on your initial deposit of $100 free."

Now you tell me, is that 25% on a $100 deposit = $25 free, or 25% on your initial deposit of up to $100 bonus? :confused:

I asked CS (via live chat) - even they didn't know.
I asked the affiliate manager - and he gave me an ambiguous answer! :eek2:

Sheeesh!
 
Sorry Pina I do not see how having Two separate coupons stops that stratergy. Maybe I am missing something though.
As far as I can see it just means you either save all your guaranteed wins on Classic slots or save all your free spins on reel series before zeroing out but not both.
It is probably a moot point anyway because I have never known an RTG be slow on denying winnings on the grounds of bonus abuse (not played within the spirit it was meant etc)
Maybe that is what Inet mean and have evidence of but are not saying?

So far though they seem to be saying Sweiger played the wrong slots as stated in their T&C's and yes they are within their rights to do this but is it RIGHT?

You and Bryan are of the opinion that it is and I can see where you are coming from but if the player was not seeking to gain an advantage then it appears to the player to be nothing more than an excuse to deny a payout.

Any Casino can draw up a long list of conditions to be met for bonuses but what is important is that they are fair and there for a reason and not just there to trap unsuspecting players.

When you talk about things being clear and obvious you are talking as an experienced player who is aware of and looking out for all the pitfalls that using a bonus can bring.
A new player could easily make a similar mistake.
I am not saying Inet are crooked just incompetent.
It is terrible PR for Casinos when these things happen and they should be ensuring it can not happen not making it more likely with convoluted bonus coupons/conditions.
 
I have always interpreted this as iNetBet have, even though the layout of these additional rules could be better.

There could well be a problem for players for whom English is not their first language, simply because two DIFFERENT grammatical constructs are used to explain the rules for the two coupons.

Here is a simpler one.

Real Series coupon - For play ONLY on Real Series range of slots.

Classic Slots Coupon - For play ONLY on the Classic range of slots.

The lobby should always be designed so that it is clear which slots fall into each category. RTG sometimes confuses things by double listing new Real Series slots such that links appear in the main menu as well as under the Real Series tab. Things could be made clearer still by providing a link to a detailed list of games, for example:-

Classic Slots Coupon - For play ONLY on the Classic range of slots as listed <here>.

Clicking on <here> would lead to a list of eligible slots. The same could be done for all the coupons, and this should reduce the scope for arguments.

Placing a confiscated jackpot in a winner's list is 100% wrong though. It would be ILLEGAL here in the UK, as it misleadingly implies a prize has been paid out to the named person/player, which was not the case.

We have yet to hear what happened to the confiscated RJ, if not paid, it should be placed back into the pot, since it has already been paid for by players, it should NOT be kept as 100% "hold", as this would be taking advantage of the other players who no longer have a chance to win it (with the CORRECT coupon:D ).
 
I still don't see the problem. The writing beside the *" symbol quite clearly tells me that the Real Series slot coupon ONLY applies to the real series range of slots. And..that Classic Slots DOES NOT (ie. in other words, do not play them) apply.

Exactly! "If you take a real series coupon, don't play classic slots."
That's how I read the terms in the first place.
But there was NO mention of "you can't play real series with a classic slots coupon", right?

EDIT: No Sweiger, it's not NOW on two separate lines. I was originally looking at the Current Offers page, without realizing that you had been referring to the Newsletter link, which is exactly the same bonuses to the letter, but slightly different page layout. One line, two lines....the wording is identical, and means the exact same thing whether it is written on one line or two. Real Series applies to Real Series, Classic Slots does NOT.
I was NOT referring to the newsletter, I referred to the website:

Old / Expired Link

And until yesterday, the wording in question WAS one seperate paragraph (as in the newsletter).
Why do you think they changed it yesterday? Because they realized it was too unclear and ambiguous.
 
I can see both sides of the argument here;
The terms are ambiguous - some people will insist that they are for ever, and some will insist they are not for ever.

I honestly would not waste any more of your time on this.

I have no high hopes of Inetbet changing their minds in my favour. The original post was merely a warning to others that they DO exercise their ambiguous rules to their own benfit, swift and harshly. Then they further gives me the finger by putting me on the winners list.
Inetbet should have no hopes of getting more of my business.

And yes, what about my stolen RJ? Will it be put back in the pot?
McCain will be a democrate before it does...
 
Hi,
As we do with any Jackpot where a player is not eligible for payout the funds were added back to the game. As mentioned in previous threads on this topic we have to instruct RTG to do this for us. So it would not have been instantaneous. I have checked and the current balance does reflect the Jackpot being added back.
Best Regards
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I came here just to say stop beating a dead horse, but then I realized
I don't even know what is real slots and what is classic slots since I am not a slot player until I began reading here
However, I just checked inet slots and see Real Series Video Slots and three Reel classic. So what is Crazy Vegas or Pinocchio etc?

Just a personal note, in nearly 30 years of gambling in land based casinos and off shore gambling ships I am yet to put one single quarter in a slot machine. Now I read at this forum and I do play for the hell of it
hoping to get a hit so I can post in winning screenshots :-)
 
How many other winners on this list were ineligible for the winnings - I think if the player for whatever reason is not going to get the jackpot they should not be placed on the winners list.
 
I have no high hopes of Inetbet changing their minds in my favour. The original post was merely a warning to others that they DO exercise their ambiguous rules to their own benefit, swift and harshly. Then they further gives me the finger by putting me on the winners list.
Inetbet should have no hopes of getting more of my business.
See - even I can be ambiguous too! :o
When I said:-
I honestly would not waste any more of your time on this.
I meant not to waste you time arguing with people here on the forum about what the terms meant - I didn't mean stop chasing iNetBet to see if they will accept their ambiguity and maybe make some token of compensation.

One can but hope...
 
This is a longwinded thead of posts mainly attacting iNetBet for something that is clearly stated on their promotions. Sweiger has been a member of Casinomeister's for over 2 years and one would have to think that this wasn't their first play on RTG games. Their promotions are clearly stated on their current promotions page. I don't see how anyone could misinterept the meaning of real series slots and classic slots. The only difference in the coupons is the real series coupon is for a 50% bonus and the classic slot coupon is for 75%. I am not accusing Sweiger of anything but wonder how many claim the larger 75% classic slot coupon (knowing the difference in classic and real series slots) then still go play the real series and when they hit a random call foul play. Not saying this is the case here but after playing online for over 2 years most know the difference in the classic slots and real series slots. Sorry, this happened to you Sweiger but it's not iNetBet's fault as the coupons are easy to understand and I don't think they deserve the flaming here. I think their one of the only fair RTG casinos out there and as Casinomeister said...go play at Cirrus and see real rouge support.

Sorry, but on this issue I stand with iNetBet.
 
Sorry, but on this issue I stand with iNetBet.
I also stand on this with Inetbet even though I was burned by them once a long time ago, through my own misreading...if they reverse this, then they would have to reverse all winnings made from bonuses that were "misread" including mine (the one and ONLY time I ever took one!):D

Once again, I say, the pull to take a bonus is very strong and then to claim foul is also very strong when one hits a good jackpot...no one ever thinks they will, but when they do..they want all bets off, (that is all T&C"s deemed moot).

This discussion has become irrevelant to the issue..and that is, 1. a bonus was claimed, 2. it was used wrong, and 3. a jackpot was hit with it and 4. winnings were denied which is what casinos do when T&C's are broken..end of story.

My advice to many is STOP taking bonuses!!! It does NOT pay in the long run! :eek:
Figure it out ...deposit $30 get a 50% bonus of $15 and then have a 25x D&B wagering requirements and you end up with $1125 wagering all for a lousy $15 bucks??? Makes no sense whatsoever...and then you have a max cashout of 10-20 your deposit on MANY of these...which makes it even worse...
 

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