Inetbet warning

[Mooley]

That's why I never do coupons......If u deposit and win without a coupon u can cash out, If u loose u loose.

 

[babs7262]

Im sorry but slots are slots. Soon theyll have (not just inet) Roulette coupons and european Roulette coupons. Where is it all gonna end?

btw..I dont use netspend, I deleted that part of my post as to not derail but I guess it was too late. Anyway, sorry again for this derail, just answering a question

 

[Pinababy69]

Honestly, I'm sorry to the OP, but I'm with CM on this one. Just the name of the coupons alone implies which slots they are meant to be played on. I claim almost all of these bonuses every month, except for the Classic Slots one. I don't play Classic Slots.

Real series slots coupon: Only applies to real series range of slots.

In other words, this coupon is to play ONLY the Real Series range of slots.

Classic Slots: Does not apply to Real Series range of slots.

In other words, this coupon is NOT to play the Real Series range of slots.

I have never had a problem with a bonus coupon at Inetbet. There is no max cashout on their deposit coupons nor their comp points. The only time you are limited with a coupon or comp is if it is a no deposit coupon. And if you use a coupon designated for a certain game or games, then you must play those games.

Sorry, but I just don't get it.

 

[sweiger]

Real series slots coupon: Only applies to real series range of slots.

In other words, this coupon is to play ONLY the Real Series range of slots.

Classic Slots: Does not apply to Real Series range of slots.

In other words, this coupon is NOT to play the Real Series range of slots.

What coupon? Ther is no mention of a classic slots coupon that you can't use on real series. The whole line in the terms seems to apply to a real series slots coupon as I (and others) read it.
I'm not going to argue more about it, I have explained several times why I misread the rules. I just want to warn others about Inetbet's unclear and ambiguous terms, which they (surprise!) harshly apply in their favour.

 

[Pinababy69]

Sweiger, are you referring to the coupons listed on this page?

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If so, it lists all the coupons available for the month. There is a Classic Slots coupon with a *" beside it, and a Real Series coupon with a *" beside it. When you go to the bottom of the page, and find those symbols...this is what it says:

*" Real series slots coupon: Only applies to real series range of slots.

*"Classic Slots: Does not apply to Real Series range of slots.

Are you referring to the fact that the word "coupon" doesn't follow Classic Slots? I don't know, but to me, the terms are referenced directly to the coupons by the *" symbols....telling you what each coupon is to be used for.

Sorry, not trying to be difficult, but I just don't see how anyone could read this any other way. The word coupon itself may not be there, but they follow one another as the coupons themselves do, and the symbols indicating what each refers to is quite clear.....at least to me.

 

[suzecat]

Being a member of the "club for Inetbet mistakes" I'll stand up for the OP to say........well, been there, done that..........once.......it just takes one time to learn about these things. Judging from the frequency of this topic appearing in the forum, I'd say a good job was done to educate those using coupons at Inetbet. I would also say that regrettably, a few players slipped through the cracks, so to speak. JMO

 

[catrina m]

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[Rusty]

Sorry about what happened to you Sweiger, I can not think of anything worse in a Casino than hitting a jackpot only to have it snatched away from you.

I can see how Inet could try to justify denial of winnings but IMO the bonus rules assume knowledge of the slots which makes them ambiguous
and I do not accept the argument that the rules are implied by the name of the bonus.
Bonus promotions are given all sorts of names that are irrelevant to the T&C's
"Super slot bonus" or Sizzling slot bonus" etc but we could argue about semantics all Day the important issues that Inetbet needs to address are these.

1) Why are there Two separate slot bonuses?
(both have the same WR attached and the slots have the same payback, right?)

2) What happened to the unpaid RJ?

3) What advantage, in Inetbets view, did the player gain by playing on the "wrong" slots?

Three very simple but important questions for Inetbet.
Thanks.

 

[steinhaug]

1) Why are there Two separate slot bonuses?
(both have the same WR attached and the slots have the same payback, right?)

For the point of argument, let's just assume the two bonuses are there just to make it easier to confiscate winnings - evil trickery!

So that in mind, I would be very interested in seing the accual reason why the need for seperate bonuses - which in turns voids accual winnings!

 

[chuchu59]

Sweiger, are you referring to the coupons listed on this page?

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If so, it lists all the coupons available for the month. There is a Classic Slots coupon with a *" beside it, and a Real Series coupon with a *" beside it. When you go to the bottom of the page, and find those symbols...this is what it says:

*" Real series slots coupon: Only applies to real series range of slots.

*"Classic Slots: Does not apply to Real Series range of slots.

Are you referring to the fact that the word "coupon" doesn't follow Classic Slots? I don't know, but to me, the terms are referenced directly to the coupons by the *" symbols....telling you what each coupon is to be used for.

Sorry, not trying to be difficult, but I just don't see how anyone could read this any other way. The word coupon itself may not be there, but they follow one another as the coupons themselves do, and the symbols indicating what each refers to is quite clear.....at least to me.

Pina,

If this is the version that sweiger read I tend to side with Inet. However, as in the Inet newsletter I received yesterday, these 2 sentences were lumped together under additional rules as a single paragraph and seemed to imply that you cannot play classic slots with a Real series coupon. Though the wording of the 2 versions is exactly the same the implications look different.

 

[shoust]

I think the point here is, is that upon first look at those 2 sentences, they look far too similar for someone who might just skim over the coupon rules.

Maybe InetBet should rectify this rule a bit by stating that instead of just saying "this is for this" and "that is not this", just say like in the first sentence, "this is for this" and "that is for that".

Anyway, besides isn't this an inherent fault in the software that supplies such bonuses? If a bonus is in action for a particular game, then surely the software should either:

a) Prevent the user from playing those series of games until the wagering or so is completed.

or

b) Remind the user that the coupon active isn't possible to be used in [enter game here],warn them and give that user the choice.

or

c) Instead of taking the monies away from the user, apply a set of WR to the win if the user didn't follow the rules correctly.

 

[sweiger]

Sweiger, are you referring to the coupons listed on this page?

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If so, it lists all the coupons available for the month. There is a Classic Slots coupon with a *" beside it, and a Real Series coupon with a *" beside it. When you go to the bottom of the page, and find those symbols...this is what it says:

*" Real series slots coupon: Only applies to real series range of slots.

*"Classic Slots: Does not apply to Real Series range of slots.

Yes, that's the page, BUT(!)
See, now they have changed the way it reads:

Additional Rules:
*" Real series slots coupon: Only applies to real series range of slots.
*"Classic Slots: Does not apply to Real Series range of slots.

Now it's on TWO different lines, making the (ridiculous) rules a bit less unclear.
Until yesterday, it was on ONE SINGLE LINE:

*" Real series slots coupon: Only applies to real series range of slots. *"Classic Slots: Does not apply to Real Series range of slots.

I'm not surprised by this smart trick, and I think it PROVES my point, it could be EASILY MISREAD!

 

[Pinababy69]

Okay, the coupon in question came from the Newsletter, but it is the exact same coupon and page format as the current promotions page. The only difference is that, at the bottom, the two definitions/terms, are together on one line. But the wording is exactly the same.

Copied and pasted from:

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Classic Slots Bonus Coupon*"

Valid until Nov 22nd
Enter coupon code: FAFDK
Deposit between $10 - $100
Receive 75% Match Bonus
Play through deposit and bonus 20x

50% Real Series Slot Match*"

Valid until Nov 22nd
Deposit between $10 - $100
Enter coupon code: MFCPU
Receive 50% Bonus
Play through deposit and bonus 20x

Bonus #2: 25% High Roller Bonus**

Valid until Nov 22nd
Enter coupon code: EWJNR
Deposit between $200 - $750
Play through deposit 25x
to receive 25% Bonus
Max Bonus $125
(non match bonus) 10x bonus to cashout

50% Caribbean 7 Coupon#
Valid until Nov 22nd
Enter coupon code: DY7YE
Deposit between $10 - $100
Receive 50% Match Bonus
Play through deposit and bonus 30x
(Game restrictions apply)

The bolding of the little symbols is mine, to highlight what to match each bonus up to at the bottom of the page, which relevant points read:

Additional Rules:
*" Real series slots coupon: Only applies to real series range of slots. Classic Slots: Does not apply to Real Series range of slots.
** High Roller Bonus: bonus only available to players who have turned over a given amount in the past 3 months. Accounts that are eligible have been pre-determined. Those accounts not assigned "High Roller" status will be unable to claim this bonus.
#Caribbean "7" coupon: Only play on the following games is permitted. 7 Card Stud, Caribbean Hold'Em, Caribbean Stud Poker.


I still don't see the problem. The writing beside the *" symbol quite clearly tells me that the Real Series slot coupon ONLY applies to the real series range of slots. And..that Classic Slots DOES NOT (ie. in other words, do not play them) apply.

And if I did find any ambiguity in that wording, or if I didn't know the difference between Real Series slots and Classic slots, I'd be getting an answer prior to playing....either here or via email. And yes, they should absolutely have live chat. I've said that a million times as well.

But as far as abiding by their own terms and conditions, I see no problem here at all.

This reminds me of a complaint a couple of years back...I think it was against Grand Mondial (Grand Monaco at that time). I have no use for this casino group...absolutely none. I think they are one of the worst casino groups out there, and wouldn't send my enemy to play there. All that being said, a poster on here signed up there, claimed their Slots Only signup bonus, then proceeded to play Roulette (or some other game) and have their winnings voided. Problem is, there were two different sign up bonuses. One was the aforementioned Slots Only Bonus. The second was called the All Games Bonus. Hmmmm....now if you wanted to play Roulette, or Video Poker, or Blackjack....which bonus would you claim? Myself, I'd claim the All Games bonus for that.....and if I wanted to play slots, I'd claim the Slots bonus. Not this person. Much as I hate the casino...I simply could not even fathom why this person would bother posting here.

And again, in this case, while I sympathize with the OP's disappointment.....if I wanted to play Real Series slots, I'd claim the Real Series coupon (as I do every month, and the straight 50% match coupon). If I wanted to play Classic Slots, I'd claim the Classic Slots coupon. I sure wouldn't claim one, and then proceed to play the other (disallowed) game. There is a reason they are named as such.....exactly to avoid this "confusion".

As to why there are two different coupons? Go and read this:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/rtg-100-guaranteed-strategy-but-is-it-abuse.27613/

All of that running around and collecting bonus rounds to go off at the same time....is on the Classic Slots. It's no wonder any casino would separate the two groups of slots, when that's what people try to do. So they literally guarantee themselves to clear their deposit plus bonus....plus a small amount of winnings...and if allowed to play the Real Series slots on a Classic coupon....then they proceed to go and play the Real Series slots with a larger bankroll than they started with.....AND no WR. I get their reasoning.

I am not in any way implying that this is what Sweiger did here, but simply answering the question as to why there are two different coupons in the first place. It's to combat exactly the strategy posted about in the above thread.

EDIT: No Sweiger, it's not NOW on two separate lines. I was originally looking at the Current Offers page, without realizing that you had been referring to the Newsletter link, which is exactly the same bonuses to the letter, but slightly different page layout. One line, two lines....the wording is identical, and means the exact same thing whether it is written on one line or two. Real Series applies to Real Series, Classic Slots does NOT.

If this were a casino with ANY sort of dodgy past, or a history of writing ambiguous terms, or not paying out large wins, etc.....I'd be more likely to try and believe there was some ill will or wrongdoing on their part. But there have been very few complaints over the years, not legit ones anyway. When someone wins, they pay. And they do NOT have a history of looking for excuses to not pay. The terms are crystal clear to me.

 

[Mouche12]

Inetbet

Very sad story indeed.

Is it allowed for Inetbet to have put you on the winners' list in their newsletter? Or was that done automatically as well??

Inetbet doesnt make itself very popular with this action, thats for sure...

Personally, I think that the fact that Inetbet has not given much (real) problems in the past does not mean that their action, also in view of the principle of fairness, was a good one. All casinos, including the accredited ones, should continued to be watched...

 

[KasinoKing]

What coupon? Ther is no mention of a classic slots coupon that you can't use on real series. The whole line in the terms seems to apply to a real series slots coupon as I (and others) read it.
I'm not going to argue more about it, I have explained several times why I misread the rules. I just want to warn others about Inetbet's unclear and ambiguous terms, which they (surprise!) harshly apply in their favour.

I can see both sides of the argument here;
The terms are ambiguous - some people will insist that they are for ever, and some will insist they are not for ever.

I honestly would not waste any more of your time on this.

Ambiguous terms are something I totally hate - they really wind me up! :sob:

Here's a good example from a casino I recently added to my site; I always tell people what each casino's sign up bonus is. This particular one said:-
"You will be entitled to receive a 1st deposit match bonus of 25% on your initial deposit of $100 free."

Now you tell me, is that 25% on a $100 deposit = $25 free, or 25% on your initial deposit of up to $100 bonus?

I asked CS (via live chat) - even they didn't know.
I asked the affiliate manager - and he gave me an ambiguous answer!

Sheeesh!

 

[Rusty]

Sorry Pina I do not see how having Two separate coupons stops that stratergy. Maybe I am missing something though.
As far as I can see it just means you either save all your guaranteed wins on Classic slots or save all your free spins on reel series before zeroing out but not both.
It is probably a moot point anyway because I have never known an RTG be slow on denying winnings on the grounds of bonus abuse (not played within the spirit it was meant etc)
Maybe that is what Inet mean and have evidence of but are not saying?

So far though they seem to be saying Sweiger played the wrong slots as stated in their T&C's and yes they are within their rights to do this but is it RIGHT?

You and Bryan are of the opinion that it is and I can see where you are coming from but if the player was not seeking to gain an advantage then it appears to the player to be nothing more than an excuse to deny a payout.

Any Casino can draw up a long list of conditions to be met for bonuses but what is important is that they are fair and there for a reason and not just there to trap unsuspecting players.

When you talk about things being clear and obvious you are talking as an experienced player who is aware of and looking out for all the pitfalls that using a bonus can bring.
A new player could easily make a similar mistake.
I am not saying Inet are crooked just incompetent.
It is terrible PR for Casinos when these things happen and they should be ensuring it can not happen not making it more likely with convoluted bonus coupons/conditions.

 

[vinylweatherman]

I have always interpreted this as iNetBet have, even though the layout of these additional rules could be better.

There could well be a problem for players for whom English is not their first language, simply because two DIFFERENT grammatical constructs are used to explain the rules for the two coupons.

Here is a simpler one.

Real Series coupon - For play ONLY on Real Series range of slots.

Classic Slots Coupon - For play ONLY on the Classic range of slots.

The lobby should always be designed so that it is clear which slots fall into each category. RTG sometimes confuses things by double listing new Real Series slots such that links appear in the main menu as well as under the Real Series tab. Things could be made clearer still by providing a link to a detailed list of games, for example:-

Classic Slots Coupon - For play ONLY on the Classic range of slots as listed <here>.

Clicking on <here> would lead to a list of eligible slots. The same could be done for all the coupons, and this should reduce the scope for arguments.

Placing a confiscated jackpot in a winner's list is 100% wrong though. It would be ILLEGAL here in the UK, as it misleadingly implies a prize has been paid out to the named person/player, which was not the case.

We have yet to hear what happened to the confiscated RJ, if not paid, it should be placed back into the pot, since it has already been paid for by players, it should NOT be kept as 100% "hold", as this would be taking advantage of the other players who no longer have a chance to win it (with the CORRECT coupon ).

 

[sweiger]

I still don't see the problem. The writing beside the *" symbol quite clearly tells me that the Real Series slot coupon ONLY applies to the real series range of slots. And..that Classic Slots DOES NOT (ie. in other words, do not play them) apply.

Exactly! "If you take a real series coupon, don't play classic slots."
That's how I read the terms in the first place.
But there was NO mention of "you can't play real series with a classic slots coupon", right?

EDIT: No Sweiger, it's not NOW on two separate lines. I was originally looking at the Current Offers page, without realizing that you had been referring to the Newsletter link, which is exactly the same bonuses to the letter, but slightly different page layout. One line, two lines....the wording is identical, and means the exact same thing whether it is written on one line or two. Real Series applies to Real Series, Classic Slots does NOT.

I was NOT referring to the newsletter, I referred to the website:

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And until yesterday, the wording in question WAS one seperate paragraph (as in the newsletter).
Why do you think they changed it yesterday? Because they realized it was too unclear and ambiguous.

 

[sweiger]

I can see both sides of the argument here;
The terms are ambiguous - some people will insist that they are for ever, and some will insist they are not for ever.

I honestly would not waste any more of your time on this.

I have no high hopes of Inetbet changing their minds in my favour. The original post was merely a warning to others that they DO exercise their ambiguous rules to their own benfit, swift and harshly. Then they further gives me the finger by putting me on the winners list.
Inetbet should have no hopes of getting more of my business.

And yes, what about my stolen RJ? Will it be put back in the pot?
McCain will be a democrate before it does...

 

[iNetBet Promos]

Hi,
As we do with any Jackpot where a player is not eligible for payout the funds were added back to the game. As mentioned in previous threads on this topic we have to instruct RTG to do this for us. So it would not have been instantaneous. I have checked and the current balance does reflect the Jackpot being added back.
Best Regards
iNetBet Promos

 

[Stovetopp]

I came here just to say stop beating a dead horse, but then I realized
I don't even know what is real slots and what is classic slots since I am not a slot player until I began reading here
However, I just checked inet slots and see Real Series Video Slots and three Reel classic. So what is Crazy Vegas or Pinocchio etc?

Just a personal note, in nearly 30 years of gambling in land based casinos and off shore gambling ships I am yet to put one single quarter in a slot machine. Now I read at this forum and I do play for the hell of it
hoping to get a hit so I can post in winning screenshots

 

[classymom]

How many other winners on this list were ineligible for the winnings - I think if the player for whatever reason is not going to get the jackpot they should not be placed on the winners list.

 

[KasinoKing]

I have no high hopes of Inetbet changing their minds in my favour. The original post was merely a warning to others that they DO exercise their ambiguous rules to their own benefit, swift and harshly. Then they further gives me the finger by putting me on the winners list.
Inetbet should have no hopes of getting more of my business.

See - even I can be ambiguous too!
When I said:-

I honestly would not waste any more of your time on this.

I meant not to waste you time arguing with people here on the forum about what the terms meant - I didn't mean stop chasing iNetBet to see if they will accept their ambiguity and maybe make some token of compensation.

One can but hope...

 

[lovetogamble]

This is a longwinded thead of posts mainly attacting iNetBet for something that is clearly stated on their promotions. Sweiger has been a member of Casinomeister's for over 2 years and one would have to think that this wasn't their first play on RTG games. Their promotions are clearly stated on their current promotions page. I don't see how anyone could misinterept the meaning of real series slots and classic slots. The only difference in the coupons is the real series coupon is for a 50% bonus and the classic slot coupon is for 75%. I am not accusing Sweiger of anything but wonder how many claim the larger 75% classic slot coupon (knowing the difference in classic and real series slots) then still go play the real series and when they hit a random call foul play. Not saying this is the case here but after playing online for over 2 years most know the difference in the classic slots and real series slots. Sorry, this happened to you Sweiger but it's not iNetBet's fault as the coupons are easy to understand and I don't think they deserve the flaming here. I think their one of the only fair RTG casinos out there and as Casinomeister said...go play at Cirrus and see real rouge support.

Sorry, but on this issue I stand with iNetBet.

 

[silcnlayc]

Sorry, but on this issue I stand with iNetBet.

I also stand on this with Inetbet even though I was burned by them once a long time ago, through my own misreading...if they reverse this, then they would have to reverse all winnings made from bonuses that were "misread" including mine (the one and ONLY time I ever took one!)

Once again, I say, the pull to take a bonus is very strong and then to claim foul is also very strong when one hits a good jackpot...no one ever thinks they will, but when they do..they want all bets off, (that is all T&C"s deemed moot).

This discussion has become irrevelant to the issue..and that is, 1. a bonus was claimed, 2. it was used wrong, and 3. a jackpot was hit with it and 4. winnings were denied which is what casinos do when T&C's are broken..end of story.

My advice to many is STOP taking bonuses!!! It does NOT pay in the long run!
Figure it out ...deposit $30 get a 50% bonus of $15 and then have a 25x D&B wagering requirements and you end up with $1125 wagering all for a lousy $15 bucks??? Makes no sense whatsoever...and then you have a max cashout of 10-20 your deposit on MANY of these...which makes it even worse...