Hah!
Nice to know they have games that are +ev if played with a bonus. Oh.. no... wait...
Its the principal mousey!!! (LOL)
Hah!
Nice to know they have games that are +ev if played with a bonus. Oh.. no... wait...
I agree totally about being surprised they are still in business with lack of amenities and service. Many claim their service is good. It is. When closing accounts. Nice and swift!To be honest with the lack of amenities they offer regarding customer support alone and all the constant complaints against them over the years, I am still to this day surprised they have accreditation standard here. I for one would like to see it removed.. but oh well. Its no small surprise that going back a few years club world and inetbet were of similar sizes, yet roll forward several years, club world is expanding in all directions with several outlets and venues and where is poor old Inetbet? oh yeah, still that small obscure little casino stuck out on the corner there. And the sad part is they have no body to blame but themselves. Inetbet needs to learn whos really important and that answer is the customer!
Interesting post.
Could you please provide examples from CM forums where inetbet has locked the accounts of players "trying to win"? Also, examples of them "crying fraud" with "no proof"?
Could you also tell us which other forums you're referring to? If they're advantage player/bonus hunting forums then every casino would be on the blacklist.
I don't think it is unreasonable to ask for evidence, given the serious accusations you're making against an accredited casino.
So the accuser makes accusations but no evidence is necessary. The person who submits the pab is never given the chance to answer any charges nor are they informed as to what the charges are. its a catch 22 all the way around.
As for the case, maybe we will just have to wait to hear from chu. Maybe those "numerous"
e-mails i-net supposedly sent went to lala land and not chu's e-mail address. But how about a response
regarding the attached issue of i-nets "less than acceptable CS attitude"? And I really toned down that quote.
That's such BS, and you are becoming a troll with these types of comments. Lighten up already!Well, apparently a few members here actually attempted to PaB...
Your point is clear....we dont want to pound the money machine...I never got a bonus from them ...because I never deposited...which was the reason for my comments regarding chuchu's case. I-net's cocky response to MY inquires to them was.."check your mail, a response was already sent"....Still have'nt seen a response from them in my e-mail!!!Yes I checked my spam mail too....maybe a glitch that I did'nt get the mail in i-nets defense....but bottom line is no need for cocky resonses from any CS rep.....imho.That's such BS, and you are becoming a troll with these types of comments. Lighten up already!
Inetbet reserves the right to bonus ban their players - every casino reserves that right. Unfortunately Chuchu ended up down that path - I'm not privy to his playing history at iNetBet, but if they were willing to close his account, I'm sure there were justifiable reasons for it. It's sad that there were communication problems - chuchu is a good guy and so is this casino.
That said, again we have an iNetbet thread that attracts members who have "chips" on their shoulders (sorry ) If you have been bonus banned, why not come out and say so instead of leading us to believe that the casino sucks because you feel they are aloof and uncaring. C'mon - be fair.
I know from past threads that silcnlayc has been BBd, I believe so has VWM. I'm guessing Greasemonkey, AudiManinBoro, and fanihi too?
Maybe I should start a new user group in the forum for BonusBanned at iNetBet - that would be rich
Hi All,
Just thought I would drop by and clear up a few queries and misconceptions that seem to have arisen here. These are mostly as people are making assumptions and do not have all of the information.
This is a very simple case:
chuchu was emailed back in July in regards to bonus use. This was just a friendly heads up email to let them know their account had been flagged. This email was responded to by chuchu and a further reply was sent back to them.
I will not be posting these up as they are private emails. However if chuchu wishes to have copies these can be provided.
Contrary to what was posted initially, chuchu had been warned previously about their bonus privileges with us.
After their last session of play/withdrawals being processed we sent a mail to chuchu reminding them of their prior warning and letting them know that they had not paid any heed to this so we had disabled bonuses on their account. We also explained that this was not permanent and that if they made some non bonus play then bonuses could be re-enabled.
chuchu seems to have taken exception to this and called us liars. Trust is obviously an important factor and any future relationship was seen as being untenable. Their account was thus closed.
I hope this clears things up for people.
Best Regards
iNetBet Promos
The same exact thing happened to me like six years ago. After not cashing out once over a two year period of play they accused me of bonus abuse and shut off my coupons (also stating that after some non bonus play this could change) . After emailing support stating that I hadn't made a withdrawal in like 40-60 deposits so how could I have "abused" any bonuses a gentleman named Michael sent me a snide email insulting me then locked my account.
Quote Originally Posted by greasemonkey View Post
Well, apparently a few members here actually attempted to PaB...
That's such BS, and you are becoming a troll with these types of comments. Lighten up already!
In the two recent cases to which I believe you are referring we asked for and received more than satisfactory evidence that the parties involved were guilty as charged.
If BB'd stands for bonus banned then this is a misconception about what transpired with Inet and me. I was NEVER bonus banned from ANY casino because I rarely took them.That's such BS, and you are becoming a troll with these types of comments. Lighten up already!
Inetbet reserves the right to bonus ban their players - every casino reserves that right. Unfortunately Chuchu ended up down that path - I'm not privy to his playing history at iNetBet, but if they were willing to close his account, I'm sure there were justifiable reasons for it. It's sad that there were communication problems - chuchu is a good guy and so is this casino.
That said, again we have an iNetbet thread that attracts members who have "chips" on their shoulders (sorry ) If you have been bonus banned, why not come out and say so instead of leading us to believe that the casino sucks because you feel they are aloof and uncaring. C'mon - be fair.
I know from past threads that silcnlayc has been BBd, I believe so has VWM. I'm guessing Greasemonkey, AudiManinBoro, and fanihi too?
I coninued to play there for many years thereafter.
Maybe I should start a new user group in the forum for BonusBanned at iNetBet - that would be rich
huh???
I'm sorry. What is BS about this? Clearly, they DID make PaBs. I'm not trolling. I'm stating facts. Sorry if you don't like them but even Max is in agreement as you can see in the below quote.
iNetBet Casino
No real explanation given
by Steve Russo
September 2011
After repeatedly losing at iNetBet, Alice K of Rochester, UK, feels that she should be paid her cashout of $3470. iNetBet refuses to give it to her -- nor even a real explanation of why not. Instead, it only says "fraud".
Alice first wrote to us saying that she first opened an account with the casino on 27 April, deposited $400, received a bonus, and lost both the bonus and her deposit. On two subsequent occasions, she said, she deposited $400, got no bonus, and lost her money. On the fourth time, she again deposited $400, received no bonus, but this time won and cashed out at $3470. In short, no bonus was involved in the play which resulted in her winnings.
She says that her withdrawal was denied because she misspelled her user name on her faxback form.
"I then corrected that and my account and cashout went unattended and my emails went largely unanswered except for one reply saying that my account was still under review. After several more emails I gave up on hearing back from them at all as they completely ignored me".
She sent Gambling Grumbles copies of her driver's license and a bank statement, both in the name of "Alice Kerr" as well as her passport.
She also said that "I have never had an issue with cashouts at any other casino. I have played other casinos with this same software as iNetBet including Win Palace, Club world, Bodogs, Vegas casino online, Sun palace, and Lucky red. I always had to send in a form along with documents and I have never had any issues at any other time".
Lynn, the casino manager, wrote back to us saying, "The information you have sent which was provided by this person is not full or correct at all.
"This case has nothing to do with any misspellings of usernames. Contrary to what they have stated there was a also bonus involved. Their statement that they have never had problems elsewhere is also incorrect.
"This is a fraud case. I am afraid we thus cannot divulge any further details.
"I will however say that this person already has cases open/closed with Casinomeister and CDS. You would appear to be the latest in their list as they attempt to force a payment via other methods".
Fraud is a serious charge, and keeping a player's $3470 is a serious punishment. At the very least, Alice should have been told the specifics of the fraud accusation. That would give her a chance to prove her innocence. Is she being accused of having multiple accounts with iNetBet? Is she being accused of using a false identity? Is she being accused of stealing someone else's password to make deposits?
There is nothing in anything that Lynn said to give a hint. I am certain that Lynn, with very good reason, would be furious if a court were to fine her $3470 after finding her guilty of "theft" and refuse to tell her what she stole, who she stole it from, and when she did it.
Gambling Grumbles wrote back to Alice asking her if she could provide any information about Lynn's accusation.
"I have absolutely no idea what she is referring to when she claims fraud," Alice said. "I am clearly who I claim to be. I have not signed up at this casino with any different usernames or aliases. I funded the account via my neteller account, which I fund directly via my bank. I did not cheat or engage in any type of cheating or bonus abuse. So I cannot begin to guess as to what she is referring to as fraud but I can assure you that she is horribly mistaken. I am not a fraud and it is absurd to claim such a thing when I can clearly prove that is not the case. I have nothing to hide nor have I attempted to be sneaky in any way".
As far as her having problems with other casinos, Alice said, "The only online gambling issue that I actually have ever had was making too large of a bet at Club Dice, which broke their terms for the bonus. They had no thoughts as to me being fraudulent and they simply returned my deposit and they did it quickly. I broke an obscure rule about bet size but I did not have ANY problems with my withdrawal at all."
She did, she said, have a PAB at Casinomeister about the Club Dice issue but "I didn't realize that there was a term that is hard to locate on their site stating that you must bet under a certain amount per bets. My bet size exceeded that and my winnings were taken, however my deposit was returned. The PaB didn't go far as MAX from Casinomeister pointed out the term I had broken and I have to accept that because it is their rules. I just didn't see the rule wnen reading the web site".
"Allow me to add to the ridiculous statements made by Lynn. I have never had a complaint with CDS. That is FALSE. I have never had an issue with a cashout as she FALSELY claimed. There is no fraud, again FALSE. My last 3 deposits did NOT contain a bonus or coupon again she is FALSE".
"A vague claim of fraud with no sound proof is ridiculous. I am not afraid to supply any document needed nor will I hesitate to do so. This cannot be allowed to happen She made several false claims which can all be proved FALSE. Please do not let her get away with it. I have been totally truthful in all of this. She clearly is not being and there is plenty of proof of it. Please do NOT allow this to happen. It is a good amount of money to me and I deserve it. I risked my own money and they have absolutely no reason to not pay. I am disgusted with them at this point totally".
Gambling Grumbles, of course, is not in any position to "allow" or not allow a casino to do anything. All we can do is tell you what the two sides have told us. We can, however, give our opinion -- and that opinion, as made clear by the Skull & Crossbones symbol on top of this page, is that no casino should ever keep a player's money without giving him or her a very detailed and specific reason.
Well, Well. It looks like the Monkey was telling the truth again. More bad news on inetbet as it looks like they have lied several times.
I thought I said "lighten up". You are taking yourself way too serious - and this situation as well....
Why does something like this always happen whenever I question anything? Maybe I'm wrong but it feels like you just jump to the casinos side without question when I make a point. The way my mind works is quite the opposite, I am leery of these casinos.
You did it to me vs. clubworld. You just believed them on their word until finally looking for the proof to show me and the forum then you realized that Tom was just wrong. Now you are saying that nobody put in Pabs against this casino and that Me, the player, is lying. I'm once again not lying and the casino has complaints in about them. Not just here either. You even jump on me for political rant responses. Perhaps you have a distaste for my opinions and beliefs. Thats cool, its your forum.
It doesn't have to be a thing where you take offense to what I am saying on iNetBet's behalf. I'm just stating facts. Which apparently they themselves do not do often based on Chu's account of what happened here or the other players that claim to have been banned here wrongfully for placing a PaB against one of your accredited casinos.
I wish you would afford the same belief to players the way you seem to for casinos.
That person Steve Russo was dealing with is directly related to this fraudster:Well, Well. It looks like the Monkey was telling the truth again. More bad news on inetbet as it looks like they have lied several times.
If this is on Gambling Grumbles, a Google search on a short string from the above quote should bring up at least one hit - the post in question. It brings up NO hits whatsoever, even when limiting the search to "Alice K of Rochester". Google suggests results from "without quotes", yet again this supposed page does not exist.
either:-
1) It has been removed from Gambling Grumbles,
2) It was never there to start with, and could be a private email from Steve Russo.
or
3) YOU are "Alice K from Rochester" - and thus not an impartial bystander to this incident.
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it is right at the top of the page, VWM lol. You are probably getting a cached page or something.
Given this casinos snobbish attitude, I'm not surprised they didn't provide a
Satisfactory answer to gambling grumbles investigation. That site usually does'nt
Assign skull and crossbones to more reputable casinos, so he must have
Really had his reasons.
I've noticed some of the club world casinos are showing up there more often. They
All seem to be using fraud as the main excuse for not paying but don't supply
The evidence. The casino is judge and jury in this unregulated environment.
That's why it comes down to how you feel about a place and if you trust them...for me,
I don't care if they're accredited or not. The accredited casinos listed here can
Do what they like. It's about profitability and inetbet is probably not doing too
Well which is why they're so pety with bonuses and irritable that they just close
Peoples accounts with no warning. Don't offer bonuses if you don't want
Your customers to have them.
Inetbet is digging their very own grave and will most likely not survive another
Year.