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To be honest with the lack of amenities they offer regarding customer support alone and all the constant complaints against them over the years, I am still to this day surprised they have accreditation standard here. I for one would like to see it removed.. but oh well. Its no small surprise that going back a few years club world and inetbet were of similar sizes, yet roll forward several years, club world is expanding in all directions with several outlets and venues and where is poor old Inetbet? oh yeah, still that small obscure little casino stuck out on the corner there. And the sad part is they have no body to blame but themselves. Inetbet needs to learn whos really important and that answer is the customer!
I agree totally about being surprised they are still in business with lack of amenities and service. Many claim their service is good. It is. When closing accounts. Nice and swift!

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Interesting post.

Could you please provide examples from CM forums where inetbet has locked the accounts of players "trying to win"? Also, examples of them "crying fraud" with "no proof"?

Could you also tell us which other forums you're referring to? If they're advantage player/bonus hunting forums then every casino would be on the blacklist.

I don't think it is unreasonable to ask for evidence, given the serious accusations you're making against an accredited casino.

Well, apparently a few members here actually attempted to PaB. They are claiming that the Problem is that after a few months of no response at all regarding their pab they suddenly had their accounts here locked and have no chance to post anything about it. The PaB rules state not to mention the issue. so apparently they followed that rule as I didn't see any post about it anyways. They were called a fraud (of course) even though they supplied all documents according to them. They don't have access to tell the story here apparently so I cannot give you a link to anything here on cm about it. Regarding the "no proof" question you ask, that is what they are claiming. Of course with the pab process here there is never evidence given for various reasons. So the accuser makes accusations but no evidence is necessary. The person who submits the pab is never given the chance to answer any charges nor are they informed as to what the charges are. its a catch 22 all the way around. That being said, I have seen enough complaints and had my own experiences to state very solidly my opinion of them.
My opinion is that they are unworthy of my trust or my business. They actively seek to not pay winners. Even when bonuses aren't involved.
 
So the accuser makes accusations but no evidence is necessary. The person who submits the pab is never given the chance to answer any charges nor are they informed as to what the charges are. its a catch 22 all the way around.

Sorry but that's not the way it works. When the "accuser makes accusations" we ask for proof. If there is no proof then there is no case. Furthermore, in all but the most flagrant cases of fraud, we present the casinos charges to the player and ask for their response.

That said, at no time do we offer or promise to share the evidence we see in a PAB case with the "accused". This is made perfectly clear right from the outset, it's in the Pitch-A-Bitch FAQ and anyone who submits a PAB is required to read that FAQ.

Anyone who does a PAB and thinks they are entitled to see what the casinos have as evidence against them has obviously failed to read the FAQ. Little wonder then that they would misunderstand what the PAB process is and how it works. As it happens this is fairly common. I'd estimate that about a third of the people who submit PABs lie when they submit their PAB form: the sign-off on the form requires them to say "yes" to the statement "I have read and understand the Pitch-A-Bitch FAQ" but many simply never bother.

In almost all cases where the casino has booted the player for fraud or Terms violations we offer the player the opportunity to state their case in a final appeal which I forward to the casino people for their consideration. Sometimes this results in the casino reversing its decision, sometimes it does not: most of the time the player never responds to this offer.

This "never a chance to appeal, never informed of the charges" stuff is total rubbish: the complete opposite is true. The only part of your statement that has any truth to it is that the player is not shown the evidence against them. Given the nature of casino fraud that is a necessary part of the process.

You might want to buck up on your knowledge of the PAB process before you come out with statements like this. You are the one who is abusing truth and justice here, not the casino and certainly not us.

In the two recent cases to which I believe you are referring we asked for and received more than satisfactory evidence that the parties involved were guilty as charged. In fact it was a particularly solid case against both of them. They, like everyone else, were offered the final appeal option: one responded, the other did not.
 
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Hi All,

Just thought I would drop by and clear up a few queries and misconceptions that seem to have arisen here. These are mostly as people are making assumptions and do not have all of the information.

This is a very simple case:

chuchu was emailed back in July in regards to bonus use. This was just a friendly heads up email to let them know their account had been flagged. This email was responded to by chuchu and a further reply was sent back to them.
I will not be posting these up as they are private emails. However if chuchu wishes to have copies these can be provided.

Contrary to what was posted initially, chuchu had been warned previously about their bonus privileges with us.

After their last session of play/withdrawals being processed we sent a mail to chuchu reminding them of their prior warning and letting them know that they had not paid any heed to this so we had disabled bonuses on their account. We also explained that this was not permanent and that if they made some non bonus play then bonuses could be re-enabled.

chuchu seems to have taken exception to this and called us liars. Trust is obviously an important factor and any future relationship was seen as being untenable. Their account was thus closed.

I hope this clears things up for people.

Best Regards
iNetBet Promos
 
Not really!!

As for the case, maybe we will just have to wait to hear from chu. Maybe those "numerous"
e-mails i-net supposedly sent went to lala land and not chu's e-mail address. But how about a response
regarding the attached issue of i-nets "less than acceptable CS attitude"? And I really toned down that quote.
 
As for the case, maybe we will just have to wait to hear from chu. Maybe those "numerous"
e-mails i-net supposedly sent went to lala land and not chu's e-mail address. But how about a response
regarding the attached issue of i-nets "less than acceptable CS attitude"? And I really toned down that quote.

Maybe you didn't quite understand what Inetbet said.....email was sent in JULY to chuchu about this and he RESPONDED.....which means the he could and did receive the emails that were sent.

It's true that CS can be short and abrupt at times, but I find if you treat them respectfully they will do so in return. Almost all examples provided over the years have been a response to abusive language and threats....and they have every right to decide that they don't want those people as customers.
 
I think they have made it quite clear themselves. A single mail and not numerous mails as claimed. I said they were lying because they did not send me the 'numerous mails' which is factually correct. If being factually correct leads to a closure of account....well its their decision but they cannot say they are not lying when they are. I never said I didnt know their stand on my use of bonuses. However, I hate people making things up to prove a point and that's exactly what they are doing. Then, acting as if hurt they retaliated and closed my account based on a truth and a lie from them.
 
Well, apparently a few members here actually attempted to PaB...
That's such BS, and you are becoming a troll with these types of comments. Lighten up already!

Inetbet reserves the right to bonus ban their players - every casino reserves that right. Unfortunately Chuchu ended up down that path - I'm not privy to his playing history at iNetBet, but if they were willing to close his account, I'm sure there were justifiable reasons for it. It's sad that there were communication problems - chuchu is a good guy and so is this casino.

That said, again we have an iNetbet thread that attracts members who have "chips" on their shoulders (sorry :p) If you have been bonus banned, why not come out and say so instead of leading us to believe that the casino sucks because you feel they are aloof and uncaring. C'mon - be fair.

I know from past threads that silcnlayc has been BBd, I believe so has VWM. I'm guessing Greasemonkey, AudiManinBoro, and fanihi too?

Maybe I should start a new user group in the forum for BonusBanned at iNetBet - that would be rich :p
 
Though I must admit I didnt like being bonus-banned at Inet or any other casino for that matter this is not my primary concern. The fact is they tried to sensationalise the matter by saying they sent me numerous mails when in fact they did not. If so, why are they not admitting to lying on the matter and instead treating me with contempt and closing my account? There are other respondents in this thread that were bonus-banned but it seems they were more pissed off with the customer service they were getting. I do not doubt their integrity the least bit. I have recived a couple of pms from Inet indicating they were either bewildered/unhappy with my posts. Nothing wrong with that except it seems they do care about their image but I believe rather than gag people they should be open to criticism and improve themselves.

My question is simple. Inet, did you or did you not send me numerous emails on bonus advantage play. Yes, I did receive your email in July but that was the only one but of course you can always say the follow-up emails counted.
 
No I was never bonus banned at inetbet. I had problems there one time and got really peeved off that there was (and still isnt) no way of contacting them short of email So I simply left. This is my main gripe as to their accreditation status here. In this day and age there is simply no reason whatsoever that live chat cannot be made available. Email is simply too slow and too prone to the *we never received your email:rolleyes: . If i have a problem with a casino, I want it resolved there and then or at the very least I want to be able to talk to someone about it there and then.
 
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The same exact thing happened to me like six years ago. After not cashing out once over a two year period of play they accused me of bonus abuse and shut off my coupons (also stating that after some non bonus play this could change) . After emailing support stating that I hadn't made a withdrawal in like 40-60 deposits so how could I have "abused" any bonuses a gentleman named Michael sent me a snide email insulting me then locked my account.
Their loss not mine. There is a bunch of casinos that have the same software and actually respect their customers, too. I just chose to move on . Like Meister said previously, they have the right to ban anyone they want for any reason.
 
mmmm dont see nada

That's such BS, and you are becoming a troll with these types of comments. Lighten up already!

Inetbet reserves the right to bonus ban their players - every casino reserves that right. Unfortunately Chuchu ended up down that path - I'm not privy to his playing history at iNetBet, but if they were willing to close his account, I'm sure there were justifiable reasons for it. It's sad that there were communication problems - chuchu is a good guy and so is this casino.

That said, again we have an iNetbet thread that attracts members who have "chips" on their shoulders (sorry :p) If you have been bonus banned, why not come out and say so instead of leading us to believe that the casino sucks because you feel they are aloof and uncaring. C'mon - be fair.

I know from past threads that silcnlayc has been BBd, I believe so has VWM. I'm guessing Greasemonkey, AudiManinBoro, and fanihi too?

Maybe I should start a new user group in the forum for BonusBanned at iNetBet - that would be rich :p
Your point is clear....we dont want to pound the money machine...I never got a bonus from them ...because I never deposited...which was the reason for my comments regarding chuchu's case. I-net's cocky response to MY inquires to them was.."check your mail, a response was already sent"....Still have'nt seen a response from them in my e-mail!!!Yes I checked my spam mail too....maybe a glitch that I did'nt get the mail in i-nets defense....but bottom line is no need for cocky resonses from any CS rep.....imho.
 
Hi All,

Just thought I would drop by and clear up a few queries and misconceptions that seem to have arisen here. These are mostly as people are making assumptions and do not have all of the information.

This is a very simple case:

chuchu was emailed back in July in regards to bonus use. This was just a friendly heads up email to let them know their account had been flagged. This email was responded to by chuchu and a further reply was sent back to them.
I will not be posting these up as they are private emails. However if chuchu wishes to have copies these can be provided.

Contrary to what was posted initially, chuchu had been warned previously about their bonus privileges with us.

After their last session of play/withdrawals being processed we sent a mail to chuchu reminding them of their prior warning and letting them know that they had not paid any heed to this so we had disabled bonuses on their account. We also explained that this was not permanent and that if they made some non bonus play then bonuses could be re-enabled.

chuchu seems to have taken exception to this and called us liars. Trust is obviously an important factor and any future relationship was seen as being untenable. Their account was thus closed.

I hope this clears things up for people.

Best Regards
iNetBet Promos

So, ONE email was sent, not "numerous emails". In this respect, you did "lie" by saying it was numerous emails that were ignored before the last one was replied to. How can stating an opinion be considered "abusive"? The opinion was based on the impression that "numerous emails" meant that these were sent about THIS incident, yet it is revealed that the other emails were sent for a FORMER incident. Since what you actually MEAN by "bonus abuse" is not stated anywhere, nor is clearly defined, "taking heed" is not something a player necessarily knows how to do.

For example:-

The same exact thing happened to me like six years ago. After not cashing out once over a two year period of play they accused me of bonus abuse and shut off my coupons (also stating that after some non bonus play this could change) . After emailing support stating that I hadn't made a withdrawal in like 40-60 deposits so how could I have "abused" any bonuses a gentleman named Michael sent me a snide email insulting me then locked my account.

Surely, this was using the bonuses for extending playtime, which is what they are offered for, so surely it cannot be considered "abusive" if they are used to extend how long playing time lasted over a TWO YEAR period without a single withdrawal. The casino is STILL making a 100% "hold" from those deposits, even if the bonuses have allowed the player twice the playing time.

I am sure Michael didn't intend his reply to be "snide and insulting" just as much as Chuchu didn't intend his reply in annoyance at being accused of ignoring "numerous emails" to come across as "abusive and insulting".

These incidents are probably a result of the email only communication beingn used. When talking to someone, you can judge context and intent by tone of voice, as well as what is said. On top of this, you have "real time" discussion, rather than a "time delay" conversation as might be experienced if phone CS were outsourced to Pluto.

Had this been over the phone, Chuchu could have immediately replied that he only received one email, at which point the CS could have clarified what he meant by saying that "numerous" referred to past communications about past instances, and that it was only the one email that had been sent THIS time around.

There are rules on the website about eligibilty for bonuses, but I can't see any reference to having to make unbonused deposits between bonuses, nor any rules about only being able to pick "X of Y" from a list of coupon codes. The ONLY rule that comes anywhere near this is the one that states that ND codes are only for "active" players, ones who have deposited in the past xx days.


For the record, I am NOT (yet) bonus banned at iNetBet, I just got bored and uninstalled them. It is Club World that bonus banned me, and I am reasonably well ahead there, so not entirely unexpected.

It seems that iNetBet are overdoing the bonus banning and as a result are not making as much money as they could. A player who has not managed to cash out for 40-60 deposits is making money for the casino, no matter how many bonuses he is taking. If he WERE "abusing" these bonuses, he would have taken every opportunity to cash out after meeting WR, and thus would NOT have gone so long without a single withdrawal.

"advantage play" needs to be coupled with discipline to cash out at every opportunity to do long term harm to the casino's objective of making money over the long term. A player who knows the best playing strategy, but lacks the abilty to know when to quit and cash out, is just as profitable as the average recreational player. If they have a 2 year record of getting this part wrong, they are not suddenly going to change overnight and "abuse" a string of bonuses and "empty" the machines.

For those looking on, it seems that EVERY player, win or lose, slots or tables, is just as much at risk of being accused of "bonus abuse" by iNetBet, so you are making EVERY player want to think again before depositing there. Other casinos RARELY label players as "abusers", so when they do it is clear that only a small minority of players are ever going to be affected, and these players will already have made a lifetime profit at the casino, so shouldn't be too bothered about having to move on.
 
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Well, apparently a few members here actually attempted to PaB...

That's such BS, and you are becoming a troll with these types of comments. Lighten up already!

huh??? :what::what:

I'm sorry. What is BS about this? Clearly, they DID make PaBs. I'm not trolling. I'm stating facts. Sorry if you don't like them but even Max is in agreement as you can see in the below quote.



In the two recent cases to which I believe you are referring we asked for and received more than satisfactory evidence that the parties involved were guilty as charged.

Why does something like this always happen whenever I question anything? Maybe I'm wrong but it feels like you just jump to the casinos side without question when I make a point. The way my mind works is quite the opposite, I am leery of these casinos.
You did it to me vs. clubworld. You just believed them on their word until finally looking for the proof to show me and the forum then you realized that Tom was just wrong. Now you are saying that nobody put in Pabs against this casino and that Me, the player, is lying. I'm once again not lying and the casino has complaints in about them. Not just here either. You even jump on me for political rant responses. Perhaps you have a distaste for my opinions and beliefs. Thats cool, its your forum.
It doesn't have to be a thing where you take offense to what I am saying on iNetBet's behalf. I'm just stating facts. Which apparently they themselves do not do often based on Chu's account of what happened here or the other players that claim to have been banned here wrongfully for placing a PaB against one of your accredited casinos.
I wish you would afford the same belief to players the way you seem to for casinos.
 
That's such BS, and you are becoming a troll with these types of comments. Lighten up already!

Inetbet reserves the right to bonus ban their players - every casino reserves that right. Unfortunately Chuchu ended up down that path - I'm not privy to his playing history at iNetBet, but if they were willing to close his account, I'm sure there were justifiable reasons for it. It's sad that there were communication problems - chuchu is a good guy and so is this casino.

That said, again we have an iNetbet thread that attracts members who have "chips" on their shoulders (sorry :p) If you have been bonus banned, why not come out and say so instead of leading us to believe that the casino sucks because you feel they are aloof and uncaring. C'mon - be fair.

I know from past threads that silcnlayc has been BBd, I believe so has VWM. I'm guessing Greasemonkey, AudiManinBoro, and fanihi too?
I coninued to play there for many years thereafter.
Maybe I should start a new user group in the forum for BonusBanned at iNetBet - that would be rich :p
If BB'd stands for bonus banned then this is a misconception about what transpired with Inet and me. I was NEVER bonus banned from ANY casino because I rarely took them.

My first visit into the land of bonuses was ]WITH Inetbet..because of their GREAT reputation, I took a chance with them..many, many moons ago and I was caught in the fine print area of playing a hand or two of black jack if I remember correctly which broke me real quick on taking any bonuses from anywhere. I do thank them for this.

Never realizing I did the ultimate no no..I went to withdraw after spinning more slots for a long while..and that was my first experience of being denied a payout of any kind due to those one or two hands of blackjack.

I coninued to play there for many years thereafter even after this denial of payment, (which I believe was an unfairness then because they could have looked into my pattern of play just as they chose now to do Chuchu's and saw this was my first dabble of bonus use but they chose not to). I accepted their decision then and moved on and continued playing there for a long time.

This is what made me shy away from any other bonuses that required my own funds to be mingled with a bonus. I have no beef with Inetbet. For many Inetbet is great. For me, it has become a no. Simple as that.

I also agree Inet has the right to withdraw their bonus offers at any given time. I also agree that Inet is not for me.

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Well, Well. It looks like the Monkey was telling the truth again. More bad news on inetbet as it looks like they have lied several times.

huh??? :what::what:

I'm sorry. What is BS about this? Clearly, they DID make PaBs. I'm not trolling. I'm stating facts. Sorry if you don't like them but even Max is in agreement as you can see in the below quote.




iNetBet Casino
No real explanation given
by Steve Russo
September 2011




After repeatedly losing at iNetBet, Alice K of Rochester, UK, feels that she should be paid her cashout of $3470. iNetBet refuses to give it to her -- nor even a real explanation of why not. Instead, it only says "fraud".

Alice first wrote to us saying that she first opened an account with the casino on 27 April, deposited $400, received a bonus, and lost both the bonus and her deposit. On two subsequent occasions, she said, she deposited $400, got no bonus, and lost her money. On the fourth time, she again deposited $400, received no bonus, but this time won and cashed out at $3470. In short, no bonus was involved in the play which resulted in her winnings.

She says that her withdrawal was denied because she misspelled her user name on her faxback form.

"I then corrected that and my account and cashout went unattended and my emails went largely unanswered except for one reply saying that my account was still under review. After several more emails I gave up on hearing back from them at all as they completely ignored me".

She sent Gambling Grumbles copies of her driver's license and a bank statement, both in the name of "Alice Kerr" as well as her passport.

She also said that "I have never had an issue with cashouts at any other casino. I have played other casinos with this same software as iNetBet including Win Palace, Club world, Bodogs, Vegas casino online, Sun palace, and Lucky red. I always had to send in a form along with documents and I have never had any issues at any other time".

Lynn, the casino manager, wrote back to us saying, "The information you have sent which was provided by this person is not full or correct at all.

"This case has nothing to do with any misspellings of usernames. Contrary to what they have stated there was a also bonus involved. Their statement that they have never had problems elsewhere is also incorrect.

"This is a fraud case. I am afraid we thus cannot divulge any further details.

"I will however say that this person already has cases open/closed with Casinomeister and CDS. You would appear to be the latest in their list as they attempt to force a payment via other methods".

Fraud is a serious charge, and keeping a player's $3470 is a serious punishment. At the very least, Alice should have been told the specifics of the fraud accusation. That would give her a chance to prove her innocence. Is she being accused of having multiple accounts with iNetBet? Is she being accused of using a false identity? Is she being accused of stealing someone else's password to make deposits?

There is nothing in anything that Lynn said to give a hint. I am certain that Lynn, with very good reason, would be furious if a court were to fine her $3470 after finding her guilty of "theft" and refuse to tell her what she stole, who she stole it from, and when she did it.

Gambling Grumbles wrote back to Alice asking her if she could provide any information about Lynn's accusation.

"I have absolutely no idea what she is referring to when she claims fraud," Alice said. "I am clearly who I claim to be. I have not signed up at this casino with any different usernames or aliases. I funded the account via my neteller account, which I fund directly via my bank. I did not cheat or engage in any type of cheating or bonus abuse. So I cannot begin to guess as to what she is referring to as fraud but I can assure you that she is horribly mistaken. I am not a fraud and it is absurd to claim such a thing when I can clearly prove that is not the case. I have nothing to hide nor have I attempted to be sneaky in any way".

As far as her having problems with other casinos, Alice said, "The only online gambling issue that I actually have ever had was making too large of a bet at Club Dice, which broke their terms for the bonus. They had no thoughts as to me being fraudulent and they simply returned my deposit and they did it quickly. I broke an obscure rule about bet size but I did not have ANY problems with my withdrawal at all."

She did, she said, have a PAB at Casinomeister about the Club Dice issue but "I didn't realize that there was a term that is hard to locate on their site stating that you must bet under a certain amount per bets. My bet size exceeded that and my winnings were taken, however my deposit was returned. The PaB didn't go far as MAX from Casinomeister pointed out the term I had broken and I have to accept that because it is their rules. I just didn't see the rule wnen reading the web site".

"Allow me to add to the ridiculous statements made by Lynn. I have never had a complaint with CDS. That is FALSE. I have never had an issue with a cashout as she FALSELY claimed. There is no fraud, again FALSE. My last 3 deposits did NOT contain a bonus or coupon again she is FALSE".

"A vague claim of fraud with no sound proof is ridiculous. I am not afraid to supply any document needed nor will I hesitate to do so. This cannot be allowed to happen She made several false claims which can all be proved FALSE. Please do not let her get away with it. I have been totally truthful in all of this. She clearly is not being and there is plenty of proof of it. Please do NOT allow this to happen. It is a good amount of money to me and I deserve it. I risked my own money and they have absolutely no reason to not pay. I am disgusted with them at this point totally".

Gambling Grumbles, of course, is not in any position to "allow" or not allow a casino to do anything. All we can do is tell you what the two sides have told us. We can, however, give our opinion -- and that opinion, as made clear by the Skull & Crossbones symbol on top of this page, is that no casino should ever keep a player's money without giving him or her a very detailed and specific reason.
 
Well, Well. It looks like the Monkey was telling the truth again. More bad news on inetbet as it looks like they have lied several times.

If this is on Gambling Grumbles, a Google search on a short string from the above quote should bring up at least one hit - the post in question. It brings up NO hits whatsoever, even when limiting the search to "Alice K of Rochester". Google suggests results from "without quotes", yet again this supposed page does not exist.

either:-

1) It has been removed from Gambling Grumbles,
2) It was never there to start with, and could be a private email from Steve Russo.

or

3) YOU are "Alice K from Rochester";) - and thus not an impartial bystander to this incident.
 
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Why does something like this always happen whenever I question anything? Maybe I'm wrong but it feels like you just jump to the casinos side without question when I make a point. The way my mind works is quite the opposite, I am leery of these casinos.
You did it to me vs. clubworld. You just believed them on their word until finally looking for the proof to show me and the forum then you realized that Tom was just wrong. Now you are saying that nobody put in Pabs against this casino and that Me, the player, is lying. I'm once again not lying and the casino has complaints in about them. Not just here either. You even jump on me for political rant responses. Perhaps you have a distaste for my opinions and beliefs. Thats cool, its your forum.
It doesn't have to be a thing where you take offense to what I am saying on iNetBet's behalf. I'm just stating facts. Which apparently they themselves do not do often based on Chu's account of what happened here or the other players that claim to have been banned here wrongfully for placing a PaB against one of your accredited casinos.
I wish you would afford the same belief to players the way you seem to for casinos.
:rolleyes: I thought I said "lighten up". You are taking yourself way too serious - and this situation as well.

Your first comment was an attempt to smear iNetBet stating that the fora was full of complaints of players not being paid. That is bullshit. Bullshit as in "bullshit" complaints. The only complaints that could be considered legit by some people are being bonus banned, occasional snippy customer service, and no live chat. One of Chuchu's major concerns was the possible break down of communications. You're trying to paint this as a criminal offense. Jeese dude, it's not that serious.

Well, Well. It looks like the Monkey was telling the truth again. More bad news on inetbet as it looks like they have lied several times.
That person Steve Russo was dealing with is directly related to this fraudster:
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/members/

Oh, and here is Alice K's account :rolleyes:
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/members/

Obviously, she has pulled the wool over this guy's eyes. She didn't get her winnings because she is connected to a slew of accounts. She's prodding SR to find out how she got caught - that's all. If I was some fraudster, I'd be doing the same thing.
 
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If this is on Gambling Grumbles, a Google search on a short string from the above quote should bring up at least one hit - the post in question. It brings up NO hits whatsoever, even when limiting the search to "Alice K of Rochester". Google suggests results from "without quotes", yet again this supposed page does not exist.

either:-

1) It has been removed from Gambling Grumbles,
2) It was never there to start with, and could be a private email from Steve Russo.

or

3) YOU are "Alice K from Rochester";) - and thus not an impartial bystander to this incident.

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it is right at the top of the page, VWM :) lol. You are probably getting a cached page or something.
 
CM,

It is unclear how they are directly related based on the links that you provided. How are they related and what has that to do with inetbet in particular other than the 2nd persons complaint? You closed both of their accounts for pab fraud. How were they fraudulent in their pabs?
In the particular report from gambling grumbles it looks like inetbet actually got caught in several lies. There responses were not good enough for Gambling Grumbles either. It seems dodgy at best IMO.
 
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it is right at the top of the page, VWM :) lol. You are probably getting a cached page or something.

That is such a NEW website:confused: I thought Gambling Grumbles had been going for ages. Google just hasn't had a chance to pick up on this yet, not even when the search field is constrained enough so that only that one quoted article should appear.
 
Given this casinos snobbish attitude, I'm not surprised they didn't provide a
Satisfactory answer to gambling grumbles investigation. That site usually does'nt
Assign skull and crossbones to more reputable casinos, so he must have
Really had his reasons.

I've noticed some of the club world casinos are showing up there more often. They
All seem to be using fraud as the main excuse for not paying but don't supply
The evidence. The casino is judge and jury in this unregulated environment.

That's why it comes down to how you feel about a place and if you trust them...for me,
I don't care if they're accredited or not. The accredited casinos listed here can
Do what they like. It's about profitability and inetbet is probably not doing too
Well which is why they're so pety with bonuses and irritable that they just close
Peoples accounts with no warning. Don't offer bonuses if you don't want
Your customers to have them.

Inetbet is digging their very own grave and will most likely not survive another
Year.
 
Given this casinos snobbish attitude, I'm not surprised they didn't provide a
Satisfactory answer to gambling grumbles investigation. That site usually does'nt
Assign skull and crossbones to more reputable casinos, so he must have
Really had his reasons.

I've noticed some of the club world casinos are showing up there more often. They
All seem to be using fraud as the main excuse for not paying but don't supply
The evidence. The casino is judge and jury in this unregulated environment.

That's why it comes down to how you feel about a place and if you trust them...for me,
I don't care if they're accredited or not. The accredited casinos listed here can
Do what they like. It's about profitability and inetbet is probably not doing too
Well which is why they're so pety with bonuses and irritable that they just close
Peoples accounts with no warning. Don't offer bonuses if you don't want
Your customers to have them.

Inetbet is digging their very own grave and will most likely not survive another
Year.

You said Accredited Casinos
Can "do what they like". What
Exactly are you suggesting? Do you think
That they are allowed to get away with stuff?

Have you also been bonus banned from inetbet
Yourself? Or do you have something against them
For another reason?
 
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