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To be honest, ive never realy understood all the hype surrounding `instant` cashouts. Ok so you have to wait more than 24 hours, you may even have to wait gasp 3 days say? Is it REALLY that important you receive your cashout immediately or instantly? I mean why? If your cash strapped or seriously in need of it i would agree but then again if your that financially hardup why are you gambling to begin with? I periodically make withdrawals back to my credit card and the norm is 4-5 days for me. I dont mind, I know im going to get my money and having to wait a few days isnt a problem in the slightest.
 
To be honest, ive never realy understood all the hype surrounding `instant` cashouts. Ok so you have to wait more than 24 hours, you may even have to wait gasp 3 days say? Is it REALLY that important you receive your cashout immediately or instantly? I mean why? If your cash strapped or seriously in need of it i would agree but then again if your that financially hardup why are you gambling to begin with? I periodically make withdrawals back to my credit card and the norm is 4-5 days for me. I dont mind, I know im going to get my money and having to wait a few days isnt a problem in the slightest.

If you were to walk into a casino in the UK, pull out some cash, buy some chips, win, then walk to the cashier and the cashier tells you "Congratulations on your winnings... please sign here and we will send you a check at the end of the week" - would you have the same opinion?
 
I for one am very pissed at Inet, I made a deposit last week and acutally won $1k playing various slots and then I told myself to stop playing and request my withdrawal, They already have all my docs and I've been playing here for years. I send them an e-mail asking them to please flush my account asap right after the withdrawal.

Needles to say when i got home from work, The money was still waiting to be approved!!!??? WTF? And i never even got a reply back from them.
So guess what i did?? I blew it all... I know it's called self control, But it's kinda hard when you know it's just sitting there and you ask them to flush the account the previous night and nothing happens, And you tell yourself oh well only reverse $100 and I should be fine right? Not.. You keep going until there is nothing left. The sad part is that i seriously did need that money, So many bills to pay.

So that made me think, Did they do this on intentionally, Do they record a players playing patterns? What ever the case, My deposits are no longer going to be with Inetbet.

Ohh and to make it even worse, I got a free chip from an accredited "Jackpot Capital" and happened to make the play through and cashed out the max on it, I sent my docs to them and that same night it was in my QuickTender account, A long with an e-mail.

Go figure!
 
Just to chime in real quick - I'm trying to wrap my brain around what everyone seems to be using the chat function for - same goes for emailing customer support.

I've been playing online for years, and I could probably count the times on both hands that I've had to email a casino about a problem, etc. (as a player of course). It's usually concerning I've forgotten my password or something of that nature. (excluding sending in docs)

As a player, I've used a casino's chat function once I think - that was a few years ago at Bellerock (bad chat experience BTW :p).

Am I alone out there? Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that I don't normally use bonuses.

So to cut to the chase - what are you contacting the customer support about?
 
To be honest, ive never realy understood all the hype surrounding `instant` cashouts. Ok so you have to wait more than 24 hours, you may even have to wait gasp 3 days say? Is it REALLY that important you receive your cashout immediately or instantly? I mean why? If your cash strapped or seriously in need of it i would agree but then again if your that financially hardup why are you gambling to begin with? I periodically make withdrawals back to my credit card and the norm is 4-5 days for me. I dont mind, I know im going to get my money and having to wait a few days isnt a problem in the slightest.

For me, I much prefer instant cashouts because I'd sooner have the money in my possession than in the casinos. Although I can't exactly do anything with it in Neteller or whatever, I like to 'see' where it is.

It's just like my credit card bill. My bank and credit card are one and the same (Nationwide). When I pay the bill from my current account, it disappears straight away but doesn't appear as a credit to my bill until around two days after I pay. It's a personal frustration. They've taken it from me, but it seems to be in limbo. I like knowing where my money is at all times.

I'd never experienced the five minute withdrawals at 3Dice until a few days ago. I was shocked. I guess it does show such measures are possible. So it comes down to us to decide - what do we actually want? I can't handle the high variance all that often, so I'm quite happy at the 24 hour turnaround that 32red gives me.

I suppose it also comes down to what kind of gambler you are. I don't make huge deposits, so I don't have to wait on a withdrawal to hit my account before I can redeposit. I know it's coming and that is good enough for me. In an ideal world, withdrawals would be instant. Hopefully at some point in the future this will occur, but until it does I'm quite happy with the current times. Some casinos I know of only process on one particular day; others have three day waiting periods...the list goes on and on. 24 hours isn't too big a deal, but IMO 48+ is.
 
If you were to walk into a casino in the UK, pull out some cash, buy some chips, win, then walk to the cashier and the cashier tells you "Congratulations on your winnings... please sign here and we will send you a check at the end of the week" - would you have the same opinion?

No of cvourse not but thats not the same argument. IN a casino you are talking `physical` money, in a online casino your talking essentialy` virtual` money. Same as renting a dvd. If i go into the shop i expect it there and then, but if i rent online, i dont.
 
Just to chime in real quick - I'm trying to wrap my brain around what everyone seems to be using the chat function for - same goes for emailing customer support.

I've been playing online for years, and I could probably count the times on both hands that I've had to email a casino about a problem, etc. (as a player of course). It's usually concerning I've forgotten my password or something of that nature. (excluding sending in docs)

As a player, I've used a casino's chat function once I think - that was a few years ago at Bellerock (bad chat experience BTW :p).

Am I alone out there? Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that I don't normally use bonuses.

So to cut to the chase - what are you contacting the customer support about?

If I'm claiming bonuses, live chat is much easier than phoning. And cheaper too.

Likewise, if the casino doesn't display playthrough, often it's easier to contact support.

I'll also use it if I want to query something in the t and cs.

I like the live chat facility because it is instant. Usually if the problem isn't urgent an email will suffice, but when time is against you, for whatever reason, this is much more convenient. Also, emails sometimes tend to go astray - this can't happen in livechat :)
 
Before I get slammed for being seemingly aloof :p - I hope I'm not coming across this way. I of all people understand the importance of swift and effective emails and customer service - I am in constant contact with many casinos on a daily basis.
 
Just to chime in real quick - I'm trying to wrap my brain around what everyone seems to be using the chat function for - same goes for emailing customer support.

How else would you let the casino know that you wanted them to flush your cashout immediately?? Sure, you could email them or call them, but why bother with that when you can simply talk in "Real Time" with them and resolve the issue instantly on live chat??

I probably use live chat at least 4-5 times in any given week, sometimes it's just so I can clarify the bonus terms on a coupon and other times it may be in regards to a deposit or cashout issue.
 
Just to chime in real quick - I'm trying to wrap my brain around what everyone seems to be using the chat function for - same goes for emailing customer support.

I've been playing online for years, and I could probably count the times on both hands that I've had to email a casino about a problem, etc. (as a player of course). It's usually concerning I've forgotten my password or something of that nature. (excluding sending in docs)

As a player, I've used a casino's chat function once I think - that was a few years ago at Bellerock (bad chat experience BTW :p).

Am I alone out there? Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that I don't normally use bonuses.

So to cut to the chase - what are you contacting the customer support about?

I contact customer support for almost everything sometimes with regard to bonuses and sometimes even game rules. I am citing the latter because Inet has never provided me with the paigow house rules although they promised me several times and apparently it just dropped out of their minds thinking it would go away.

My recent gripe was with a coupon where I think I missed what the allowed games were because I played slots and the playthrough counter didnt budge. As it was, I emailed them and their action was to remove my winnings from the balance but there was no answer as to what games were allowed. I emailed them again but when the answer came much later they told me that they had indicated to me what games were allowed in a previous email which I never received. Now I lost my bankroll trying which games counted but heck they only informed me more than 4 and a half hours after I asked and this could easily have been avoided if there had been live chat. I never demanded anything back because I was also wrong in not noticing the allowed games of the coupon but why should customer service be pitched at a higher level and an unhappy situation could have been avoided.

Inet has always been adamant that live chat is not necessary because their response is both quick and effective in solving issues. It does seem that this service is on the decline and therefore the demand for live chat has mounted. Yep, I have seen useless support staff manning live chat and I dont want any of that from Inet. 32 RED, when I could still play there, is super in that their live chat staff actually understand what the problems are and 99% of the time they offer workable solutions. The remaining 1% is occurs when they cannot provide an effective solution but they still take note and actually follow up on it. Damnit 32 RED, when are you going to accept HK players again?
 
No of cvourse not but thats not the same argument. IN a casino you are talking `physical` money, in a online casino your talking essentialy` virtual` money. Same as renting a dvd. If i go into the shop i expect it there and then, but if i rent online, i dont.

Mate - it's not virtual money when it hits your account :) And it's not virtual money when it leaves your account either - so as far as I am concerned, it's not virtual money! :D

Furthermore, it is physically impossible for you to enjoy a DVD rented online instantly... whereas it has already been shown that you can be paid almost instantly by an online casino!
 
Well I have read this thread with interest. Some good points and some not so good points raised. In regards support times I just sent an email to Inebet with a stack of questions. Got a reply within in 5 mins. Maybe I just hit lucky :rolleyes: but still all my qs have been answered. Just waiting for a reply now on if they have a ticker to see playthrough required on bonuses. Lets see.

As for machines rigged etc heard this so many times its kind of getting boring. Legit casinos dont need to tighten slots or any other game. Built in house edge is all they need. If you loose well you loose. And if your playing really small then odds are you will hardly ever hit really big. As I said in another post I hit a RTG RJ with a 50 deposit the other week. It was nothing but luck. If I came on here a pi@@ed n cried for every loosing streak I would probably be making new threads multiple times a month. Take thy loss on the chin and enjoy when you win :eek: rant over.
 
So to cut to the chase - what are you contacting the customer support about?

For myself, there may be numerous reasons to contact support. With Inetbet specifically, the first reason would be to redeem your comp points. Their system isn't automated like most other RTG's, and you must actually "request" to have your points redeemed, via email. I don't know about anyone else, but chances are if I'm requesting to redeem my points, it's because I don't have any money at the moment to deposit, and sort of want to play the money I've earned now. :p

There have been a couple of times I've emailed to find out if I cashed out in time to make the next batch of withdrawals....sometimes if I get ahead I'll cash out a not huge amount, so that I can redeposit and "recycle" some money.

There have been quite a few times that they haven't updated their coupons once they've expired, including CM Tuesday, and I've sat waiting for the new coupon codes. I am a small, but frequent, depositor....generally anywhere from $10 to $25 tops. Sometimes that 50% or 100% coupon is the difference in whether I get some playtime/enjoyment or not, and maybe I don't want to wait for hours (see my instant gratification comment, lol).

There have been times when I've had really bad runs of luck for extended periods and lost "x" number of deposits in a row, and have asked for a small bonus (they've seldom ever said no BTW). Every few months I will generally email Inet asking for my payout % for a certain time period, as I like to keep track of this. I remember emailing them asking about Xmas bonuses this past year. So to make a long story short.....there are many different reasons I contact support. Some may seem trivial to others, but as I've mentioned, I only play at 32Red, Inetbet and 3Dice. I've been a loyal customer to all three, and expect to be treated as such...regardless of the amounts I deposit. And they all treat me very well, no complaints with that. The ONLY complaint with Inet is this email thing. They are a good casino in every other way, and I just want this fixed somehow.

For the record, I actually don't like live chat, but if that's my only option if email isn't working, I'll take it. I prefer actual email records that I can save and refer to at a later date, if need be.

And here is a PERFECT example of why Inet needs to fix their email and/or get live chat. Remember this thread:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/inetbet-has-confiscated-my-winnings.28204/

IMO, player was right, casino was wrong as they had misprinted the terms on the coupon. The player didn't check with support prior to playing, which he should have I guess, and this is exactly what I said to him when I answered his initial post:

Just for future reference Mario, any time you take a bonus, it's always a good idea to double check what is and isn't allowed (through support), and what the WR are, and get it in writing. You shouldn't HAVE to do that, but because of all the issues that arise from bonuses, it's generally just a smart move.

But what good is emailing if (some) people aren't getting replies apparently? How long is a depositing customer expected to wait before playing? That whole issue could have been avoided if the player had checked with support first...but of course we don't know if he would have gotten a prompt reply or not. I just think in this day and age, and with all the problems/complaints with bonuses in general, all casinos need a viable alternative to email. I mean, techie issues happen as well....they need a fallback if nothing else.

Bottom line, it really shouldn't matter what I email support for...if I do, I deserve a prompt and courteous reply. Slightly off topic, last summer when the Olympics were on, I was playing the night the men's eight rowing was happening, and had emailed 32Red to claim my bonus, and ended up getting Jonathan. After he had credited me, he emailed back and we started chatting about the rowing, and our respective Canadian and UK teams. We must have exchanged half a dozen emails in the course of an hour or more. Two weeks ago, he happened to be there again when I emailed, and we exchanged a few more in re: him training a new gal there. My point is...that he (or anyone else there) is never too busy to go that extra mile and make you feel like you are valued, and that you are actually a person, and not just a gambling machine/virtual ATM. Same with 3Dice...I don't even use live chat there, but every once in a blue moon, I'll hop on and PM Ellen or Karen just to say hi and see how they're doing...or Enzo once in a while too. No one is ever too busy to talk to me, and just say hi.

Maybe I expect too much, or maybe I've just been spoiled by places like 32Red and 3Dice when it comes to their support staff. But it is what I've become accustomed to, and personally, I'm just not willing to accept any less.

K, I'll shut up now. :p
 
Could also give my 2 cents.

Played a short time at Inetbet. The few times I emailed them I always got very fast replies, faster than at many live chats. Didnt actually have any negative experiences with them but cut down my RTG play and decided to keep Club World instead. And as far as I know they havent got any weekly withdrawal limits. You win, lets say, 30k, you make a single withdrawal and they pay the full amount. So for a highroller that likes RTG this would be the place to play IMO.

As far as availability of live chat it has some benefits. I guess thats why I still play at 32Red despite a bad run where I had over 100 deposits in a row without a withdrawal. But then again I play more at Ladbrokes even if they lack live chat and have quite slow email support. Usually I have used live chat just to rant when running bad:o Just to compare two casinos with same software.

And about withdrawals, this is were Ladbrokes excels. No pending period and 6h to reach Neteller. Didnt ever get to test Inetbets withdrawals but heard that they pay fast, without any weekly or monthly limits.
And a note to Pinababy, 32Red didnt start to process weekend cashouts until about a year ago and CS wasnt always fully aware of it.

And about slots tightening up, I think doomed4ever hit spot on so nothing further to comment on that.
 
I think in regards to withdrawal times, it comes down to one simple thing. We all have ways, whether it be searching on the forum, PMing the rep, or asking the casino via email, how long a withdrawal takes. We can then make a conscious decision as to whether we find these acceptable. If not, we go elsewhere. There are enough casinos out there to find one which meets our personal requirements.

Hoping for a 'super casino' - i.e. one which comprises good CS, fast withdrawals and 'fair' games I don't think is possible. We would all have to have generic requirements for this to be the case.

As others have said, Inet succeeds where others fail. They have no withdrawal limits. That has to be a huge positive for those who frequently hit big wins. Fundamentally, trust is at the core of this. If we trust the casino, there shouldn't be an issue if they don't provide a certain service. We may desire it, but the casino will decide if it is going to implement it. Personally, I wouldn't be completely put off a casino just because it doesn't have live chat. It's just a nice feature to have at your disposal.
 
Just to chime in real quick - I'm trying to wrap my brain around what everyone seems to be using the chat function for - same goes for emailing customer support.

I've been playing online for years, and I could probably count the times on both hands that I've had to email a casino about a problem, etc. (as a player of course). It's usually concerning I've forgotten my password or something of that nature. (excluding sending in docs)

As a player, I've used a casino's chat function once I think - that was a few years ago at Bellerock (bad chat experience BTW :p).

Am I alone out there? Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that I don't normally use bonuses.

So to cut to the chase - what are you contacting the customer support about?

I don't have the need to chat or email them often either. Last night i submitted request to redeem my comp points, got reply within an hour or two (while i was sleeping). I can't complain. I only wish i had same luck with some other accredited casinos.

Edited: OMG! I just sent them email and got reply within 2 min. Way to go iNet :thumbsup:
 
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And a note to Pinababy, 32Red didnt start to process weekend cashouts until about a year ago and CS wasnt always fully aware of it.

Not officially no...I realize that. But there were many times that I did have cashouts processed on weekends....either Dale would come into the office to process a batch, or he would login via remote I guess. It was never an official seven days a week thing, but it did happen. But the point is that they do now....which is something that not alot of MG casinos offer, or any casinos for that matter. Rather than slipping backwards, they are always trying to improve their service, which IMO, is not rivalled anywhere....except maybe 3Dice.
 
I think in regards to withdrawal times, it comes down to one simple thing. We all have ways, whether it be searching on the forum, PMing the rep, or asking the casino via email, how long a withdrawal takes. We can then make a conscious decision as to whether we find these acceptable. If not, we go elsewhere. There are enough casinos out there to find one which meets our personal requirements.

Hoping for a 'super casino' - i.e. one which comprises good CS, fast withdrawals and 'fair' games I don't think is possible. We would all have to have generic requirements for this to be the case.

As others have said, Inet succeeds where others fail. They have no withdrawal limits. That has to be a huge positive for those who frequently hit big wins. Fundamentally, trust is at the core of this. If we trust the casino, there shouldn't be an issue if they don't provide a certain service. We may desire it, but the casino will decide if it is going to implement it. Personally, I wouldn't be completely put off a casino just because it doesn't have live chat. It's just a nice feature to have at your disposal.

Agree 100% with you and also agree with pina on some of her points, not having phone or live chat will stop me playing there, but to each their own................laurie
 
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To be honest, ive never realy understood all the hype surrounding `instant` cashouts. Ok so you have to wait more than 24 hours, you may even have to wait gasp 3 days say? Is it REALLY that important you receive your cashout immediately or instantly? I mean why? If your cash strapped or seriously in need of it i would agree but then again if your that financially hardup why are you gambling to begin with? I periodically make withdrawals back to my credit card and the norm is 4-5 days for me. I dont mind, I know im going to get my money and having to wait a few days isnt a problem in the slightest.

i agree with Audi, i don't mind waiting for a bit as long as i know i am getting paid. Personally I see super fast cashouts as a catch, it's easy to lose control and deposit it all back fast while you are still excited. :lolup: But its just me.
 
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i agree with Audi, i don't mind waiting for a bit as long as i know i am getting paid. Personally I see super fast cashouts as a catch, it's easy to lose control and deposit it all back fast while you are still excited. :lolup: But its just me.

Look at it this way. If the money is still in the casino, all it takes is a click or two to reverse the withdrawal, whereas if it goes back to your bank, you have to go through the whole deposit process all over again...

Super fast cashouts are nothing but GOOD. No catches.
 
Look at it this way. If the money is still in the casino, all it takes is a click or two to reverse the withdrawal, whereas if it goes back to your bank, you have to go through the whole deposit process all over again...

Super fast cashouts are nothing but GOOD. No catches.

Besides, if I'm lucky enough to win...that means it's mine, and I want it NOW!! :laugh:
 
Look at it this way. If the money is still in the casino, all it takes is a click or two to reverse the withdrawal, whereas if it goes back to your bank, you have to go through the whole deposit process all over again...

Super fast cashouts are nothing but GOOD. No catches.
No click or reverse required (including a progressive win).
 
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Just to chime in real quick - I'm trying to wrap my brain around what everyone seems to be using the chat function for - same goes for emailing customer support.

I've been playing online for years, and I could probably count the times on both hands that I've had to email a casino about a problem, etc. (as a player of course). It's usually concerning I've forgotten my password or something of that nature. (excluding sending in docs)

As a player, I've used a casino's chat function once I think - that was a few years ago at Bellerock (bad chat experience BTW :p).

Am I alone out there? Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that I don't normally use bonuses.

So to cut to the chase - what are you contacting the customer support about?

It is usually a query about some promotion or another. It is also cock-ups in promotions that swamp the support staff. Many software suppliers have automated systems in place to deal with the fact that casinos like to use bonuses as their main form of comping play, yet quite a few casinos insist players "contact support" rather than use a WORKING automated claim process. Automated processes themselves can go wrong, often because they have been incorrectly implemented. Online casinos have had YEARS of experience in running bonus based promotions, yet they STILL have episodes of "clogged up CS", and use the excuse ".....because of exceptional demand due to .......promotion we are running".

If terms were clear, and fully implemented by the software, a whole chunk of CS time would be freed up. There really should be no need to contact support for many other functions, such as having a withdrawal flushed. Why not have a "flush button" in the cashier if the casino is one that will flush withdrawals on request. Freeing up CS from dealing with the mundane issues should ensure a speedy response to those issues that need a tailored response.
 
Mate - it's not virtual money when it hits your account :) And it's not virtual money when it leaves your account either - so as far as I am concerned, it's not virtual money! :D

Furthermore, it is physically impossible for you to enjoy a DVD rented online instantly... whereas it has already been shown that you can be paid almost instantly by an online casino!

Well we all have different opinions Spear, to me i dont particular care about having to wait a few days for my withdrawn money to hit my account, i realyl am not that desperate for it. So long as it gets there thats good enough for me :D
 
Well we all have different opinions Spear, to me i dont particular care about having to wait a few days for my withdrawn money to hit my account, i realyl am not that desperate for it. So long as it gets there thats good enough for me :D

Not arguing the toss... some people are used to waiting too! But you asked why people make such a big deal about instant payouts... and certainly there is no good reason why people wouldn't prefer instant gratification! ;)

Nash - nice one. Can't say I like that feature...
 
Not arguing the toss... some people are used to waiting too! But you asked why people make such a big deal about instant payouts... and certainly there is no good reason why people wouldn't prefer instant gratification! ;)

Nash - nice one. Can't say I like that feature...


Now, isn't this the very reason that casinos cite as to why it is simply impossible for them to verify ID before accepting the deposit - they MUST offer "instant gratification" else the player goes elsewhere that does.

When the CASINO has the money, suddenly this "instant gratification" is no longer an issue, they even claim players WANT a pending period, and have complainrd vigourously when they find the "pesky casino" has gone and paid them instantly (yes, said to me, by a casino when I queried the reinstatement of a pending period after they experimented with instant processing).

When a player has been paid, THEY have control of the money. This does NOT affect their ability to enforce their own "wait", perhaps by removing it from where it is via cheque or wire to their bank, BUT it gives them the choice to take up offers at other casinos they are members of, and not suffer the irritation of seeing an offer expire because another casino has held on to their winnings for several days.

It's bad enough with these new rules that payment must go back to credit cards, they may flush & process instantly, but my card company keeps me waiting 3 days. Worse, I CANNOT spend the money as I choose, I can only PURCHASE things with it - it is almost like paying my win in, say, Argos gift vouchers, instead of proper money.

Take as an example my win at Prime (10K). The deposits were 400 from a card, followed by 300 from Neteller, but the ENTIRE 10K had to go back to the card. I got paid, although I had to wait 3 days to be able to use the money. The problem is that I am restricted in how I can spend it. I CANNOT pay bills with it, but only buy things from merchants that accept credit cards. I CANNOT put 3600 into a cash ISA should I wish, nor can I pay off my other shopping credit card from the winnings. Pretty much the only thing I can do is use it as gambling funds. Payment to Neteller would have allowed me to have the money as "proper money" right away.

There is no reason why, once a player has passed ID checks, that payment cannot be made instantly, and to the method of receipt most convenient to the player. Casinos seem to pretend that nebulous "international laws" make them have to pay in all these strange ways, different at each casino, and have these compulsory delays.

There is one casino that says the 24 hour pending period is "for security reasons" in the confirmation email sent upon a withdrawal request.

I will TOLERATE these waits - I have no choice really, but this DOES NOT MEAN I AM HAPPY WITH THEM.
 

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