Ibutler casino - busted!

[LOOKAWAY]

Ok, so I signed up to ibutler casino the other week and claimed a 20 free chip.

I had the time today to play it, I chose Rich Horrific slot and it's a really naff, almost exact copy of Scary Rich 1. (Rival software.)

Have I missed this, and it's already been posted at casinomeister? I'm pretty sure there was an ibutler thread.

Not had a look at there other slots yet, wonder what else will pop up.

 

[Osloking]

I think this is the same software the megacasino use, for many year ago, i got freechip from them to check out and i can sure say its most crappy slot i ever played. i dont know but i have very bad feeling about this software and i never deposited.

 

[KasinoKing]

I had the time today to play it, I chose Rich Horrific slot and it's a really naff, almost exact copy of Scary Rich 1. (Rival software.)

My god!
That's a BLATANT rip-off of the Rival slot - I wonder if Rival know about this?
I bet they don't or there could be some serious legal action heading iButler's way...

KK

 

[kavaman]

The software also seemed rigged, atleast to my experience, also my antivirus seems to think its malware but that might just be my norton.

 

[Nifty29]

My god!
That's a BLATANT rip-off of the Rival slot - I wonder if Rival know about this?
I bet they don't or there could be some serious legal action heading iButler's way...

KK

Better send the brief to Vinylweatherman Q.C. for legal analysis...

 

[Pinababy69]

My god!
That's a BLATANT rip-off of the Rival slot - I wonder if Rival know about this?
I bet they don't or there could be some serious legal action heading iButler's way...

KK

Absolutely spot on KK. As much as I detest Rival, this is completely wrong, unless of course....whoever owns this IButler Casino has bought the rights to the software/this particular game. Maybe it's Rival in disguise?

I reported the thread to Bryan....perhaps he has more info, or can find out. Reminiscent of the Jackpot Heaven crackpots, who stole MG and RTG's games, and then made that ridiculous YouTube video, with the "cloaked" voice, threatening anyone who dared to comment on their sleaziness.

 

[jetset]

Sounds as if this might be a candidate for this year's Casinomeister awards...in the bad categories.

Edited to add that it appears the culprit is the Malta-based 36Gaming.

 

[Nifty29]

Better send the brief to Vinylweatherman Q.C. for legal analysis...

I apologise to the person/s that reported my post above for any offense I may have caused.

 

[maxd]

I apologise to the person/s that reported my post above for any offense I may have caused.

Actually no one reported it, I saw it when I was browsing through the thread and did the necessary. On behalf of the readership apology accepted, and thanks for keeping the peace.

 

[PNEFOREVER2]

Only just signed up to this place ten minutes ago and I'm already having issues signing in.Not a good sign.

 

[Nifty29]

I would strongly advise members to avoid depositing here, or even signing up for that matter. If they aren't fazed about stealing games, I doubt they would have too many scruples about selling your personal information.

I received some spam from them today. Let's hope its not a sign of things to come.

 

[Nate]

Ibutler has a rep here... He was VERY Keen to promote his product, even without Bryans permission - Bryan DID warn him.

It would be nice to respond to this thread as we are now discussing the platform they operate on...

Nate

 

[Silencio]

Maybe it's Rival in disguise?

lol, aha so Rival launched a separate rogue software brand so they can keep their own name trustworthy.
makes sense

 

[chayton]

Ibutler has a rep here... He was VERY Keen to promote his product, even without Bryans permission - Bryan DID warn him.

It would be nice to respond to this thread as we are now discussing the platform they operate on...

Nate

I thought that name sounded familiar, it was a few months ago when he was 'advertising'.

He's here: https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/members/

 

[ibutlercasino]

Hello all,

We are sorry for our late reply, we didn't received any notification on this thread.

@Nifty29 we don't spam our customers, you received a newsletter from our marketing departement. If you find it annoying I strongly recommand to write an email to support in order to unsubscribe your email address.

Regarding to the similarity with Rival games, we don't have any connection with this company. We are using a different gaming platform and all our games are developped by us. You may find similarities between many other online gambling sites, and this is not a reason to believe that the games are stolen from one site or another.

Please feel free to email us on [email protected] if you have any questions.

Best regards
Sandra

 

[mattsgame]

Hello all,

We are sorry for our late reply, we didn't received any notification on this thread.

@Nifty29 we don't spam our customers, you received a newsletter from our marketing departement. If you find it annoying I strongly recommand to write an email to support in order to unsubscribe your email address.

Regarding to the similarity with Rival games, we don't have any connection with this company. We are using a different gaming platform and all our games are developped by us. You may find similarities between many other online gambling sites, and this is not a reason to believe that the games are stolen from one site or another.

Please feel free to email us on [email protected] if you have any questions.

Best regards
Sandra

You need to find some new developers then, if Rival do not come after your casino platform I would be very surprised. You may find similarities in games on different sites but you can not be claiming that here, so many slots are there to mimic Rivals.. The sooner they get onto this the better as the poor players are the ones losing out.

Its not just scary rich your ripping off, I am sure there's more + slots from other platforms, I couldn't be bothered going through them all as it was horrible to navigate.








Players would have to be mad to deposit into your casino.

 

[Nifty29]

Hello all,

We are sorry for our late reply, we didn't received any notification on this thread.

@Nifty29 we don't spam our customers, you received a newsletter from our marketing departement. If you find it annoying I strongly recommand to write an email to support in order to unsubscribe your email address.

Regarding to the similarity with Rival games, we don't have any connection with this company. We are using a different gaming platform and all our games are developped by us. You may find similarities between many other online gambling sites, and this is not a reason to believe that the games are stolen from one site or another.

Please feel free to email us on [email protected] if you have any questions.

Best regards
Sandra

Your games are blatant copies of Rival games....paytables and everything...just with your own symbols designed to be ALMOST the same as Rival.

I'm not a fan of Rival, but I hate content thieves and people who present me with crap and try to convince me it is chocolate a whole lot more.

The only defense you may have is that you don't realise your developers are ripping off games.....but then that's even more reason to avoid your casino if you can't see what every man and his dog can.

 

[takethemoney]

Unbelievable! Not all countries can enforce copyrights. I'll bet these guys are in a sneak hole where they can't be inconvenienced with legalities. Yes, I would advise avoiding this place by all means. If they will steal slot designs from others....they will steal from you!

 

[LaHutti]

lol @ similarities !!! You're surely kidding, right ?
Agree that players should stay FAR away from this place.

 

[Perc]

The funniest thing is, they couldn't even think of a new name. They just found a synonym for scary and swapped the word positions.

Rich Horrific is a terrible name to top it all off, Scary Rich at least makes sense.

Edited to add this link to Scary Rich: https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/new-rival-slot-scary-rich-a-brief-review.21745/

I also found this: hxxp://forthdesignstudio.com/projects.html

If you click on an arrow on either side to look through their projects, you will see this and other Ibutler Casino slots. Forthdesign is located in Cyprus.

From their About Us page "Forthdesign is a professional design laboratory with people who love to design. It is that simple. We like controversy, we adore inspiration, we disgust mediocrity and hate the word “but”."

Top symbols in Rich Horrific:


Top symbols in Scary Rich:


A little more than 'similar' I would say...

 

[KasinoKing]

Regarding to the similarity with Rival games, we don't have any connection with this company. We are using a different gaming platform and all our games are developped by us. You may find similarities between many other online gambling sites, and this is not a reason to believe that the games are stolen from one site or another.

Absolute bollocks!

They are BLATANT rip-offs - there is no defence.
I hope Rival come down on you like a ton of hot bricks!

KK

 

[The Dude]

I must have missed this thread - I wish someone had reminded me to check this out since this is some really serious stuff. And to top it off, we have a shill in our midst:
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/who-knows-about-ibutlercasino-com.47003/

iButlercasino - welcome to the pit.

 

[The Dude]

The biggest joke is this:

iButler Casino operates under License No. LGA/CL1/495/2008 on LGA/CL4/495/2008 issued by the Lotteries & Gaming Authority of Malta.

Now that's some due diligence

This is making writing up the Casinomeister Awards a piece of cake.

 

[The Dude]

Sorry for the cross posting but:

Rogued:
https://www.casinomeister.com/online-casinos/reviews/ibutlercasino/

 

[vinylweatherman]

Better send the brief to Vinylweatherman Q.C. for legal analysis...

If you must

Rival are based in Canada, but are a rather secretive foursome. Their brand is in decline. They have a good case, but do iButler actually have any money even if Rival went to Malta and won their case. It could be throwing good money after bad, and could also risk some of their operating "secrets" to be "outed" in court. iButler could simply pass the buck to Cyprus anyway, where their software developer lives, who in turn could blame the design studio.

In the other cases, such as Jackpots Heaven, it seems nothing made it to court. When busted, they just slipped away quietly in the night, probably to have another go later.

The biggest embarrassment is that iButler managed to slip one past Malta, and by implicaton one past the UK Gambling Commission, who have decreed Malta to be a reliable licensing jurisdiction based on trust that they will adhere to EU standards when issuing licenses.

It seems Malta are not happy at the prospect of missing out on an award this year after getting one for the last two, so have yanked this one out of the hat just as the awards are being considered.

"new" LGA seem no more competent than the original bunch.

It may have taken so long to bust them because it took so long for a member here to actually pluck up the nerve to register and play, and even then it was a free chip. They must have had a slow start, so back to my original thoughts that they probably don't have the money to make any legal action by Rival worth the bother, other than perhaps to get a "cease and desist" injunction over the software.

 

[Marie2473]

hahaha, similarities hahaha - are you kidding me?
You should be ashamed of your casino - actually it is not even yours since you STOLE all the games!!

 

[Pinababy69]

I must have missed this thread - I wish someone had reminded me to check this out since this is some really serious stuff. And to top it off, we have a shill in our midst:
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/who-knows-about-ibutlercasino-com.47003/

iButlercasino - welcome to the pit.

I reported this back on November 16th Bryan..and then the thread sort of slipped down the page and I forgot about it as well. At least they are where they belong now....pitified.

 

[PNEFOREVER2]

Someone just got well and truly pwned

 

[The Dude]

I reported this back on November 16th Bryan..and then the thread sort of slipped down the page and I forgot about it as well. At least they are where they belong now....pitified.

Both you and Nifty did

Vortran had to slap me upside the head to get me to "wake up" and pay attention.

 

[Flyer187]

That's just plain wrong with copying the format so obviously

 

[Pulver]

Hello all,

We are sorry for our late reply, we didn't received any notification on this thread.

@Nifty29 we don't spam our customers, you received a newsletter from our marketing departement. If you find it annoying I strongly recommand to write an email to support in order to unsubscribe your email address.

Regarding to the similarity with Rival games, we don't have any connection with this company. We are using a different gaming platform and all our games are developped by us. You may find similarities between many other online gambling sites, and this is not a reason to believe that the games are stolen from one site or another.

Please feel free to email us on [email protected] if you have any questions.

Best regards
Sandra

Post of the year!

 

[Pinababy69]

Both you and Nifty did

Vortran had to slap me upside the head to get me to "wake up" and pay attention.

Thank God for robot sidekicks, lol.

 

[mattsgame]

Geez Bryan,

Your hands are full of good "Evil" stuff for the awards this year

I think they all deserve a kick in the pants!


How much nerve can a casino have seriously.. from the start the rep must have thought of us as Idiots.

 

[3mptyseat]

yeah, u often see crooks taking legal action against other crooks...

My god!
That's a BLATANT rip-off of the Rival slot - I wonder if Rival know about this?
I bet they don't or there could be some serious legal action heading iButler's way...

KK

Oh, wait, actually that happens all the time... But, somehow I doubt Rival is gonna be taking anyone to court given their own lack of scrupples...

 

[The Dude]

Oh, wait, actually that happens all the time... But, somehow I doubt Rival is gonna be taking anyone to court given their own lack of scrupples...

Jeeze - after a 90 day suspension, the first post you make is giving someone grief. Not cool.

Anyway, Rival has gotten back to me and has confirmed that they have nothing to do with iButler casino - the games were copied and they will be vigorously defending their intellectual property.

@ players and affiliates - you need to drop this casino like a hot potato. Any casino that has the gall to rip off another software's images will have no hesitation to revoke winnings for no reason, or shave affy earnings. Consider yourselves warned.

 

[3mptyseat]

Jeeze - after a 90 day suspension, the first post you make is giving someone grief. Not cool.

Anyway, Rival has gotten back to me and has confirmed that they have nothing to do with iButler casino - the games were copied and they will be vigorously defending their intellectual property.

@ players and affiliates - you need to drop this casino like a hot potato. Any casino that has the gall to rip off another software's images will have no hesitation to revoke winnings for no reason, or shave affy earnings. Consider yourselves warned.

Did you see what I was suspended for? If that is all it takes for 90 days, I wont last past Friday anyway.

 

[chuchu59]

Did you see what I was suspended for? If that is all it takes for 90 days, I wont last past Friday anyway.

Maybe your post wasnt all that bad but the caption certainly was.

 

[maxd]

Did you see what I was suspended for?

FTR you were suspended for repeatedly ignoring warnings from the mods to clean up your act. It wasn't one post, it was a series of actions.

If you look at the actual reasons behind the "vacation" you might learn something, if you don't maybe your prediction re: Friday may well come true. Pretty much up to you which way it goes.

 

[The Dude]

Did you see what I was suspended for? If that is all it takes for 90 days, I wont last past Friday anyway.

A simple apology and a "I won't do it again" would have sufficed.

I don't have time to deal with this nonsense. Bye.

 

[Osloking]

To Casinomeister, im 100% sure i have seen this software been used at another casino too. i dont know exactly name of the casino but i will find out. as i havent played rival before, i didnt knew they ripped off rival.

 

[Dipity]

Here's one more nail in the coffin (hoho), should you require it

 

[mattsgame]

Not to sure if this is a sister casino or what but take a look. Another one has popped up called www Bet821 com

maybe this is the one your thinking of Osloking?

Also on the casino platforms website

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

, these Rival rip offs are not in the port folio, so I wonder if they're deliberately not listed here or its another company making them.

Edit.. took out the direct link

 

[SlotMonster]

Unique design?
Looks like it was drawn by few third graders!

 

[Osloking]

Not to sure if this is a sister casino or what but take a look. Another one has popped up called Bet821

maybe this is the one your thinking of Osloking?

Edit.. took out the direct link

i doubt it, it was 1-2 years ago and i think these guys is not that old? maybe they changed their names?

 

[LHofsdal]

Question...

Can Rival go after these crooks for stealing their designs? It is quite obvious that is exactly what this place did. I would think Rival would not be so happy about it, but did Rival come up with designs or did they get them from some where else? Does anyone know?

LH

 

[The Dude]

Can Rival go after these crooks for stealing their designs? It is quite obvious that is exactly what this place did. I would think Rival would not be so happy about it, but did Rival come up with designs or did they get them from some where else? Does anyone know?

LH

I'm sure these are graphics that were developed in-house by Rival thus it's their intellectual property. Since iButler is actually licensed in Malta, Rival has an excellent chance to claim that property as theirs and sue for any losses incurred.

It's also another set back for the LGA since they failed to review iButler's software. Anyone with any online gaming experience would have noticed the difference. The LGA performs no due diligence; they should not be in the business of licensing casinos.

 

[Webzcas]

I've just been contacted by a Nicos Theocharides from iButler Casino concerning a posting made about this very issue on my own forum, using the contact us form.

In the mail he requests:

We kindly request that the article and any comments or related posts to the above subject to be removed from your website as this matter is being processed by our lawyers in cooperation with the related parties’ lawyers.

To which I have responded with links to the Rogue pit here on CM and also the Infopowa news article covering this.

Has any other webmaster been contacted by Nicos??

 

[maxd]

Given the other stunts those guys have pulled recently I wouldn't at all be surprised if the "lawyer" thing is a BS attempt to get you to pull the content. Ask him to have a copy of the lawyering papers, complete with contact info for the parties and their legal representatives, sent to your office. And asking that the papers state a specific period of time that the content needs to be removed isn't a bad idea either. Chances are that'll be the end of that discussion. And if they do come through with the legal work the blackout period may well be less than 30 or 60 days, at least that's what I've seen.

I've seen this "lawyer" thing tried several times over the years, only once did the papers actually arrive.

 

[Webzcas]

Thanks Max, as expected just received another mail. <sigh>

 

[KasinoKing]

I've just been contacted by a Nicos Theocharides from iButler Casino concerning a posting made about this very issue on my own forum, using the contact us form.

As you know - it was I who posted those comments.
If you want to remove the thread - go ahead - I don't mind.
Personally I would tell them to take a running jump - though running could be quite difficult when they haven't got a leg to stand on!

KK