How often have you gotten a royal flush at 3Dice?

[jshort]

Isn't playing thousands of hands of VP in turbo mode just begging to get the TRTP ASAP and making sure that you lose money? There's a point where it's no longer gambling and it becomes mathematics.

Your chance of making money after a thousand hands is still there. After 50,000 though, not so much.

More like after 500,000 not so much, but I get your point. On any given day or week, your still not going to be playing enough hands for the results to normalize to the RTP unless your running it 24/7. For me personally, I just wanted to get at least one RF as I had never got one on any casino anywhere except Bodog which was months ago. I knew my best chances would be on 3Dice as nowhere else on the internet can one play as many as 4000+ hands/hour (at least not that I'm aware of).

Other people might use to accumate loyalty points faster to ascend the ranks more quickly. APers would want to use it if playing with an SUB because it saves time and vp is a high variance game.

 

[rockycatt]

The RNG for a vp game simulates drawing 5 cards from a randomly shuffled 52 card deck. Yuntill until you have a five card hand.
ou pick which cards you want to hold and those held cards are removed from the deck. The cards that aren't held go back into the deck and cards are again drawn
None of the cards are weighted, so each of the 52 have an equal chance of being drawn. On a slot machine, some symbols can be weighted.

are you saying that a person can get back the cards that they discarded

 

[jshort]

are you saying that a person can get back the cards that they discarded

Yes. It's pretty frustrating when it happens

 

[rockycatt]

Yes. It's pretty frustrating when it happens

i don't remember that ever happening i've been under the impression that just like a real game they go into the discard pile till the next hand

 

[jshort]

i don't remember that ever happening i've been under the impression that just like a real game they go into the discard pile till the next hand

Let me get back to you. I don't think there is a discard pile, but its been so long since I read the exact rules.

Edit: Yes your right. Thanks for the correction

 

[Balthazar]

More like after 500,000 not so much, but I get your point.

It's probably way less than that. You can get fairly close to the TRTP on a slot after a few hundred thousand spins (it's been done many times here), and slots' volatility is usually way higher than VP.

Not saying you'd get the exact figure after 50k hands, but you'd more than likely end up within a few % to the actual TRTP.

If you're doing it with a bonus or for comps, I can understand I guess.

 

[jshort]

It's probably way less than that. You can get fairly close to the TRTP on a slot after a few hundred thousand spins (it's been done many times here), and slots' volatility is usually way higher than VP.

Not saying you'd get the exact figure after 50k hands, but you'd more than likely end up within a few % to the actual TRTP.

If you're doing it with a bonus or for comps, I can understand I guess.

You'd get within a few percent, sure. The RF occurs 1 in 40,000, so after 50,000 spins is a slightly better than even that one has been hit. If it hasn't, then return is likely to be around 97.5 instead of 99.5.

 

[jshort]

Got another RF today!

I almost feel like Diane did that day when she won over 10 grand!.........Err, on the negative I suffered a bit of a losing streak afterwards and lost about half of my 400$ winnings. Then I found out there is a 30$ withdrawal fee . Hopefully OKPAY doesn't hate Canadians the same way Skrill and Neteller do and I'll be able to save myself some withdrawing costs in the future.

 

[nisosbar]

I got one once in play mode. I got a straight flush in real mode, but that's the closest I've ever gotten to a RF in real. :-(

 

[jshort]

I got one once in play mode. I got a straight flush in real mode, but that's the closest I've ever gotten to a RF in real. :-(

You could try playing as cheap as 10cents / hand. Your payoff would be un-proportionally reduced because your not playing 5 coins, however assuming 4000+ hands / hr, you'd likely get one after 11 hours, for a cost which is affordable.

Does anyone else know any other online casinos that have a super fast auto-play feature for vp?

 

[KasinoKing]

I was always under the impression that online video poker would work very much the same as a slot..
Do you mean the online video pokers RNG comp really does randomly select a combination of 5 cards with each card value having as much chance of coming up as another, a nine of clubs has the same odds of coming up as a three of hearts??

IMHO most (NOT ALL) online slots work like that too.
i.e. Every symbol on the reel-strip of each reel has exactly the same chance of landing on win-line 1 of the slot.

There are notable exceptions of course; all AWPs are NOT truly random and I'm pretty sure brands like IGT, WMS, Novo etc (the well-known land-based brands) also are "compensated" or "weighted" slots.

KK

 

[Balthazar]

I'm pretty sure brands like IGT, WMS, Novo etc (the well-known land-based brands) also are "compensated" or "weighted" slots.

They aren't (as they'd be illegal in B&M casinos here since compensated games are strictly prohibited by law). The difference between them and, say, MGS, is on each spin the RNG picks the OUTCOME and then stops the reels to match it, as opposed to the RNG picking the REEL STOP and then working out the outcome from there.

WMS: RNG ---> WIN/LOSE ----> REEL STOP
MGS: RNG ---> REEL STOP ----> WIN/LOSE


That's also why the reel strips are irrelevant for WMS/IGT slots but you can use them to find the TRTP of MGS slots.

 

[itsblitz]

How are wins decided during free spin features?
Using these slots as examples

Microgaming- Thunderstruck 15 spins x 3 multiplier
IGT - Wild Wolf - 5 spins
Playtech - Dr Love - 20 spins x 2 multiplier

I thought that the total win would be decided when you trigger the scatter.. The spins you see after already being decided
This is incorrect?

 

[jshort]

That's also why the reel strips are irrelevant for WMS/IGT slots but you can use them to find the TRTP of MGS slots.

Determining the TRTP using this method could only be done on some MGS slots yes? I mean if some are weighted, then you'd have to
determine the weighing first via experimentation and guess work? After that, one would have to determine whether or not the appearance or weighing
of symbols on the further reels (ie the 3rd, 4th or 5th) is influenced by what symbols have appeared on the reels before it?