Hey y'all! Shan here! Self-Excluded for 3 yrs from 3dice. What's up?!

[rena35]

It is kind of hard for none USA players to get any idea how hard it is to find a decent casino in no man's land and be able to enjoy playing at it. Simple just like some of the threads posted in non USA threads....the OP and others have had horrid play time , some have had horrid loyalty while some have just entered the thread to post a non critical (critical view) like calling the kettle black. For the people who do not understand the thread, move to the USA and you will soon enough.

 

[labeled]

It is kind of hard for none USA players to get any idea how hard it is to find a decent casino in no man's land and be able to enjoy playing at it. Simple just like some of the threads posted in non USA threads....the OP and others have had horrid play time , some have had horrid loyalty while some have just entered the thread to post a non critical (critical view) like calling the kettle black. For the people who do not understand the thread, move to the USA and you will soon enough.

Can't use standard emojis. Just imagine a row of "fire" emojis.

 

[labeled]

Something just occurred to me about RJ's thoughts vs some other folks... A "useless" license for us may be useful to others. They legit don't understand we have no recourse. None. Because they do. We don't. Yay, us.

 

[labeled]

Also, here's a fun anecdote. A (I hate to put this so bluntly) fellow sucker's adult child joined. Absolutely killed it.. until that sucker-server player mentioned in chat that their kiddo was killing it and named kid's name.Within two days? "Beginner's luck" was gone. So. There's another councidence.

 

[rena35]

After taking a break from depositing i deposited again today a small one. Not wanting to turn this into a moan thread because i deposited because i wanted a few hrs of fun before i left to see my sister. Well went down in min same 7 lines. Asked for my RTP for the last 2 months and was told it was 84.3% which like i said i know nothing about RTP just saw it here on CM. Asked is that bad and was told not very bad. Oh well, i think i will break for a longer while and just relax with the tourneys. I know in 2 months i with drew 10 bucks from my deposits. Not because i build it up and lost it back but because i could never build it up. I will not stop playing there, just hoping my luck turns around. It is hard to keep depositing when you are not doing well at all. Hopefully lady luck will visit us all soon . The trump reference .

 

[Savatage79]

After taking a break from depositing i deposited again today a small one. Not wanting to turn this into a moan thread because i deposited because i wanted a few hrs of fun before i left to see my sister. Well went down in min same 7 lines. Asked for my RTP for the last 2 months and was told it was 84.3% which like i said i know nothing about RTP just saw it here on CM. Asked is that bad and was told not very bad. Oh well, i think i will break for a longer while and just relax with the tourneys. I know in 2 months i with drew 10 bucks from my deposits. Not because i build it up and lost it back but because i could never build it up. I will not stop playing there, just hoping my luck turns around. It is hard to keep depositing when you are not doing well at all. Hopefully lady luck will visit us all soon . The trump reference .

Rena, 84% is horrendous .. Omg .. Like that's absolutely terrible for a place that claims its what 96 or 97%? Wow

And the reason I say that is because mine has been 88% at casino extreme and even Mikey addmitted that was pretty bad.

84%, nuts

 

[rena35]

Rena, 84% is horrendous .. Omg .. Like that's absolutely terrible for a place that claims its what 96 or 97%? Wow

And the reason I say that is because mine has been 88% at casino extreme and even Mikey addmitted that was pretty bad.

84%, nuts

I will not moan and groan about my losses . Just seems like my game play has always been like that. No days or even hrs of winning just nothing. Proof is 83.4% RTP but i tell you that it has got to be lower. I wish i could check it myself. No play time at all . Like i said i am not mad about the money it was for me to play. I took care of things and thought welp , maybe i can end this cold streak. I often asked in joking if i had broke a mirror or something. I can not speak on others luck there and it is not my concern. As for me , i know that it is as i said earlier. I have given up hope after this. I know that it should be fun but how can every spin losing be fun? I am not going to dwell on it, it just makes me sad. Lucky me it was not money i counted on for my budget. The only lesson i learned was stay small fish rolling and leave the big deposits to the big fish. Loyalty??? Lmao .

Got the hang of the quoting .

 

[zreb]

It depends how much you play and how much you change your bet size, but yeah, 83.4% over 2 months sounds pretty terrible.

That's probably about what my results at RTG slots have been, but I had one huge random jackpot win that covered around a third of all my RTG deposits or even a bit more over the last half year. Without that win I would have given up much sooner, but I've cut back my play by like 90% on RTG casinos now - at some point you've got to throw in the towel. If you're getting less than 85% or so back on your wagers over a long time it just feels like throwing money away.

However, with that said, if you're really confident in your trust of a casino, that the games are fair and have reasonable RTP's, then there's nothing wrong with continuing to play if you think you can still actually enjoy playing. My experience above with RTG casinos it feels harder to know if I'm actually playing games with a reasonable chance of winning, at least 3dice makes all of their RTP's openly available.

Sounds like 3dice support provides players with some questionable responses though, like telling players that their luck will come "soon." Maybe that's just nitpicky on my part but it doesn't seem responsible to tell that to gamblers, especially since some people are under the false impression that if they've lost a lot that they are "due for a win," when in reality they could just as easily keep losing.

 

[jelsmith]

Rena, 84% is horrendous .. Omg .. Like that's absolutely terrible for a place that claims its what 96 or 97%? Wow

And the reason I say that is because mine has been 88% at casino extreme and even Mikey addmitted that was pretty bad.

84%, nuts

Mine is currently 78% and was 68% last month. I'm extra fail.

 

[Savatage79]

Mine is currently 78% and was 68% last month. I'm extra fail.

Holy damn

 

[labeled]

Damn, Jenn. DAMN.

 

[lockinlove]

All of this rigged talk is just soo tiresome. Ask yourself this question please? if it was rigged like some of you seem to think it is, then why on earth has 3dice not been shut down already? Yes so what they operate a curacao license, big deal yes casinos that usually have curacao licenses are rogue in nature. But 3dice still was a trustworthy casino and did used to be accredited on CM.

People need to understand that casinos can not continue to operate if they are seen to be shafting and cheating and *rigging* The only platform I heard and read about that was able to rig slots was RTG casinos. I am not sure if that is still the case. But they still operate to this day. Most RTG casinos also operate under curacao licenses as well. Ok it is not a good sign I know. But I still trust 3dice and I personally do not think they *rig* the RTP or are able to rig certain players accounts so that they are the ones that always win the progressives.

Can I also say this. I have moaned multiple times in chat about never winning a jackpot etc etc. And I still never have their. I mean ok, yes I also used to moan about saying I never had 5 butters on Fortune Falls. I said that in main chat multiple times over a period of many months, and eventually I did finally hit the 5 butterflies in real on Fortune Falls. I also said in main chat I never hit 5 scatters in tut as a trigger or during freespins as a retrigger either. I have said that multiple times too over the last year or so, still to this day I never have hit 5 scatters on it, tut always treats me like dirt. I just have always had bad luck on that slot.

I said the above because they are not examples or anything. Just some coincidences that some people might question. My words I said will not change peoples views or minds. But they are wise and all I am merely doing is trying to give people a chance to look at it from all angles instead of them just suggesting and basting all what they witness as fact.

If all those people that think it is rigged, then please post evidence. Actual evidence that everyone can see in plain view on this thread and forum. Then lets judge that evidence then shall we? Until that time all this talk of 3dice being *rigged* is just total speculation and based on no evidence or hard facts.

I will say this final point. I too in the past have questioned coincidences. But that is all they are, they are nothing more than random coincidences. There is no control by the Reps or Techs to alter anything.

That is the last I post in this thread.

That's not very nice saying peoples experiences are tiresome. I am not going after them so I dont see the reason to post a whole bunch of evidence from years ago that probably doesnt exist anymore. I was just posting my experience with others. The rigged talk is not popular amongst most, I realize that before I post but it is what it is and some people may enjoy my opinion and some won't. I am ok with either.

 

[Savatage79]

Yea people online that get super defensive seem to forget that it's no different than a conversation in real life. If we were all talking in a room would DreamRJ actually say "please please don't respond so that I don't have to respond anymore!" .. I highly doubt it because that's not how conversations go.

All it shows me is some simply can't handle when someone has an opinion they don't like, as if simply conversing and explaining experiences or opinions is somehow wrong and we shouldnt do that without "evidence"... Which is funny because we're not in court the last I checked.

I can think all day long that 3dice is rigged as hell... If I'm wrong then so be it..if someone disagrees that's totally fine I always welcome a conversation about it. But you can always tell who is in pure defense mode when it comes to this stuff and who isn't.

Even tho my opinion of 3dice isn't glamorous doesn't mean I'll never ever not try it again but honestly I have no major need.

 

[rena35]

I think if you play online you have to take the losses with the wins. For me personally i never said anything about being rigged. I think it is more like relaying my personal experience there after 8 yrs of playing. Personally...and mind you i can not speak for others, i have never had a good session of wins. Personally i was at silver 5 at the old 3 dice and found my self down to bronze at the new one because of my constant sessions. I can not speak for everyone but for me i would be a happy camper just to have a good session. It has happened for many and maybe my time will come but after so many years you come to realize that maybe it just will not come. For everyone that deposits and plays a decision has to be made by them. Do you keep depositing and playing if your RTP is below 90% or do you just enjoy a few hrs of free tourneys then leave. No one and i repeat no one forces anyone to play at any casino. The thing of it is as a gambler many have went broke thinking surely their time will come and it never does. I have learned to hate the word soonish but i think i am more happy with myself. If i could turn back the hands of time silly me would have still deposited and played because the lesson i learned kept me from another 8yrs of false hope. The proverbial nail in the coffin you could say.

 

[labeled]

Same, Rena. I could say much more.. but.. same.

 

[rhick425]

After multiple thousands of dollars, my opinions have changed as well. Do I have "proof?" No. Does anyone have proof?

Let's not act as if a casino that is US facing is beyond reproach. How many times have we seen good groups go bad? It's a weird business, and those of us in THIS forum are subjected to extra weirdness.

I was banned from 3 dice years ago for mentioning a different type of casino software. (microgaming)

 

[labeled]

I was banned from 3 dice years ago for mentioning a different type of casino software. (microgaming)

 

[ChrisNobles]

I can add to the rigged talk. I posted this about 4 years ago here.

3dice is actually the only casino I felt was absolutely a set up. I ran so bad there I was becoming very concerned so I went to roulette to test something. Twice in a row I covered every 35 of the 36 number and pressed spin. It landed on the one number I did not bet on. I thought to myself holy christ this casino is rigged there is no way this can be coincidence.

Next spin I covered 34 out of the 36 numbers. It landed on the two I did not bet on.

I covered 35 of the 36 numbers and it landed on the 1 number I didnt bet on.

I went to chat, explained what happened and politely closed my account for life. It was the only casino I have ever played on where I truly felt like I was being cheated.

It sounds like a made up story by a newbie doesnt it. Well it wasnt.

DAMN!

 

[ChrisNobles]

Shan,
Wishing you the best hun. Definitely will miss our chats and shooting the sheet with ya. Take care and continue being you! Dont change a thing!
Regards,
Chris

 

[pokerdan]

deleted my post.. dont want my rtp to drop lower lol

 

[pokerdan]

I have been silent so far but i know people who say one thing and then back paddle on what they say and have been saying for a long time. I wish i could be one of those people but i stick to my guns on what i say. Back paddling is unbecoming and a hit dog will holler is what my grams used to say . I will say no more on the subject but i am kind of irritated to say the lest. Some of the players at 3 dice don't come to CM but i saw a post in main chat that there was a thread started. I must say i was curious to see what was going on but also i feel some people like to stir the pot when it is not necessary . I am sure 3 dice will respond if they feel it is something they need to do. I am sure they are aware of this thread. Some of the tin foil hat givers really delight in devilment and the bereavement of others. Something you would think a 4 yr old on the play ground would enjoy. Someone else's pain is not delightful to see for me. You can clearly see the OP is very disappointed by whatever happened during her personal game play. Personal game play is just that...personal game play and if you felt something was wrong with the Roulette for you then you did the right thing by asking questions. I do not play that game in real so i don't know. People should not be afraid of posting how they feel out of fear. The only fear for me ATM is them removing Supernatural from Netflix. If you have not seen the show check it out if you like horror. I do enjoy Sam and Dean Winchester I mean the show .

I am scared to post my feelings to be honest.I feel like I wont ever win again if I do.

 

[rena35]

deleted my post.. dont want my rtp to drop lower lol

I may not like my game play or my RTP at the moment but i do trust Anna. I think as long as your not out right bashing 3 dice and just sharing your experience then i myself see no harm done. Every one's experience is different. If i am correct in what RTP is i don't think it will change and if it does, i hope it is for the better. I do not want to speak too much on the topic of changing RTP because i truly do not know what all that means. I see it posted about changing it but all the threads on things like that are beyond me. If it has anything to do with things that shouldn't be done then i don't think 3 dice would do that. If i did i would not play. The only thing i know about RTP is from google and mine is very bad currently. Hoping for a change but who knows.. If i can ever get a break i am going somewhere called Mayo clinic with the top doctors. Expensive trip but hopefully life throws me a curve ball...speaking outside of 3 dice too.

 

[Jasminebed]

Rena, always a pleasure to see you post. You and other players are the thing I miss most about 3Dice. You too Shan.

I rarely read posts about casinos I do not play at, unless it is non-payment issues, or a thread started by a player I "know".

But Videoslots recently lowered the RTP on some games for some countries (to offset taxes by those countries) by around 2% from maybe 97% to 95%. Now a 2% drop in RTP may not sound like much, but if you continue to play the same game with the same bets, you are going to get almost 1/2 the playtime you used to. Now you might not notice in a session or two or ten, but you will at some point.

I too have health issues, and the comradery at 3Dice meant a lot to me, and qualifying to play tournaments gave me extended playtime.

The only reason I am not there still is I would have to deal with Bitcoin in order to still deposit there. I have other choices available to me.

I would not have played for as many years as I did if I thought the software was not random. But I am confident that they do not offer the highest paying slots online, but maybe higher than many others available to US players.

That said about the software, it does not mean all players receive identical perks or free chips.

 

[BillyGoldblum]

Rena, 84% is horrendous .. Omg .. Like that's absolutely terrible for a place that claims its what 96 or 97%? Wow

And the reason I say that is because mine has been 88% at casino extreme and even Mikey addmitted that was pretty bad.

84%, nuts

We have a running joke about rtg slots and the bad returns but alot of the rtg joints at on a 91% model so 88% would not surprise me at all. Even 60% would not surprise me ha.

Yet sometimes we still play them anyways. Some of their slots are fun and can get some crazy hits on but I was american and this is all I had to play I dont think I would very often

 

[Kelly Jo]

Also... Key... Yup, you were right all along.

There's more. Here's a little nudge to get you going in the right direction---->

Belgium gaming commish/id verification software.

Trueodds is in neck deep with the Belgium Gaming Commission. Based on my communications with them, it is my assertion that the Belgium GC is slippery. Their own website, with links to their laws and regulations does not reflect the reality of their implementation.

Find the links between reddice & 3Dice --focusing on the software developer.
Look for name changes in both directions-past to present. You should be able to trace everything back to a really cool psychedelic Tetris game.
If nothing else, I'd like to say that the developers used to be some cool mofos.