General Election 2019 thread

Didn't think he'd actually quit, did we? that would surely require some form of accountability!

He's made himself unsackable with his Churchillian antics, and now we know why he's been running around like a man possessed. Any other time you'd think he'd be a goner....

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People have resigned for less, but also not resigned over worse.


This should be the gold standard.

 
you guys and all your govt scandals, you should be more like us Canadians


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no, wait, I mean.....
And he has done it multiple times, so many that when asked about it he cant recall how many.
Sadly for Boris, he does not have the hair to get away with stunts like that.

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The first sitting UK Prime Minister ever to break the law and be sanctioned for it whilst in office. (That's over three hundred years.)

Johnson did have the option of going to court to challenge it, but if found guilty (which he almost certainly would be, since he ACTUALLY WENT TO HIS OWN BIRTHDAY PARTY DURING LOCKDOWN) he'd then have a criminal record.

And this guy was a known quantity, he was known to be a liar, a charlatan, a fraud, a narcissist and a man with no moral compass whatsoever - and yet somehow he got voted in anyway, and now we have a law breaker for a Prime Minister, who still has the power to make the laws that everyone else has to follow on pain of arrest, fines, and jail.

By all accounts Downing Street now has one of the highest crime rates in the country. (Fifty fixed penalty notices and counting.)
 
The first sitting UK Prime Minister ever to break the law and be sanctioned for it whilst in office. (That's over three hundred years.)

Johnson did have the option of going to court to challenge it, but if found guilty (which he almost certainly would be, since he ACTUALLY WENT TO HIS OWN BIRTHDAY PARTY DURING LOCKDOWN) he'd then have a criminal record.

And this guy was a known quantity, he was known to be a liar, a charlatan, a fraud, a narcissist and a man with no moral compass whatsoever - and yet somehow he got voted in anyway, and now we have a law breaker for a Prime Minister, who still has the power to make the laws that everyone else has to follow on pain of arrest, fines, and jail.

By all accounts Downing Street now has one of the highest crime rates in the country. (Fifty fixed penalty notices and counting.)
And in reality noone really cares . Would be forgot by most if it never kept getting brought back up.

Yes should not have attended a party during lockdown but neither should half the country that visited friends and family either.

Serious crime. Having a laugh and to then say Westminster has one of the highness crime rates in country now.

Yeah sure that will make people that stay in rundown areas with real crime and are scared to walk the streets feel better.

But since we are talking serious crimes I have a confession to make and hope it does not lead to trouble for me.

It was raining the other day. And I broke the law by smoking in a bus shelter. As if the crime was not bad enough I then proceeded to throw the cigarette end on the pavement. I turned into a serial offender. Finding it hard to live with the guilt.
 
I am no Boris Johnson fan and until 24th February was as vocal as the next person that he should resign over the numerous parties that took place in Downing Street, whilst at the same time locking the entire country down.

However, Johnson has shown himself on the world stage with regards Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine and the atrocities and genocidal campaign that Putin is waging, that he is the best person to lead the UK through this crisis and so it would seem, NATO.

Indeed if anything, he is leading the West in this regard and this is not something lost on the average Ukrainian let alone their inspiring President Zelensky.

So in my view, he needs to remain in office as PM, as what are the alternatives? Liz Truss, or if Labour got in, Keir Starmer who can't even identify what a woman is!

Therefore I will 'reluctantly' support Boris unless he tries to enforce another lockdown, that is my own personal red line as far as my support for Boris goes.

 
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By all accounts Downing Street now has one of the highest crime rates in the country. (Fifty fixed penalty notices and counting.)
Not being pedantic, but receiving an FPN does not constitute a criminal offence. Unless you do not pay it and then a court finds you are liable for said FPN....
 
I'll defer to Nish Kumar when it comes to the 'oh but war' argument.

(Also, for the record, we had three Prime Ministers and four governments during WW2, which was a war we were actually fighting in.)

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Just seen on twitter, some may think harsh.

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I do like Private Eye, their covers really do distil things down to a perfect bop on the nose with near perfection every single time. (I got that issue this morning.)
 
I was going to laugh thinking it a typo but it's not :eek2:
Yeah, i cant say i had heard the term 'family pornography' before, those two words dont belong together.
The reasoning behind it was also a bit questionable, it was along the lines of:
'What if a man takes a picture of his wife on the beach for his own sexual gratification, and just happens to catch a woman breastfeeding in the picture aswell'

Which im guessing translates to: 'I have an out of control breastfeeding fetish, please dont take this away from me'
 
He even replied to the tweet and explained it was more complex than they made it out to be, and fair enough, it sort of is.
But i dont know, i think im sticking with the breastfeeding fetish theory on this one, his example of how 'normal' people could get caught up in this is too weird.




"However, I respectfully disagree with the noble Baroness, Lady Hayman, that this issue is clearly defined in her amendment. I want to pick up on the point made by the noble Lord, Lord Pannick, if I may; we have had the benefit of some discussions. A number of points look like drafting points but are not, because they really go to the question of the scope of the proposed amendment and what it is seeking to encompass. Let me give a couple of examples, without turning the Committee into a legislative drafting session. Here is example A; I will try to use the initials from the amendment. A takes a photo of his wife, partner or girlfriend on a beach in her bikini, intending to use that image for his own sexual gratification. Another woman, B, is on the same beach, breastfeeding her baby, and is unintentionally caught by A in the picture. I heard what the noble Lord, Lord Pannick, said, but I respectfully suggest that this would be caught by the proposed amendment. A would have no defence as, first, he intended the picture for sexual gratification and recorded the image for that purpose. Secondly, he would have no defence of consent by B because B did not consent. A would also not be able to have the second defence of reasonably believing that she was giving consent because he had no idea at all that she was in the picture.

That is one example, but this goes further than drafting. Let us say that A was aware that B was caught in the background of the photo but was not aware that she was breastfeeding. Again, A would not be able to say that B had consented or that he reasonably believed that she had consented. Further, would an image of someone breastfeeding that did not actually include the act of breastfeeding—for example, a photograph capturing only a breastfeeding mother’s face—be captured under this amendment? What parts of the body, if I can put it that way, would we require the image to capture? As the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, explained, this is different from the upskirting offence because the law there condescends to particular parts of the body that must be captured in a photo. Would we wish to capture images taken of breastfeeding regardless of whether it is in a private, semi-private or public setting?
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He even replied to the tweet and explained it was more complex than they made it out to be, and fair enough, it sort of is.
But i dont know, i think im sticking with the breastfeeding fetish theory on this one, his example of how 'normal' people could get caught up in this is too weird.




"However, I respectfully disagree with the noble Baroness, Lady Hayman, that this issue is clearly defined in her amendment. I want to pick up on the point made by the noble Lord, Lord Pannick, if I may; we have had the benefit of some discussions. A number of points look like drafting points but are not, because they really go to the question of the scope of the proposed amendment and what it is seeking to encompass. Let me give a couple of examples, without turning the Committee into a legislative drafting session. Here is example A; I will try to use the initials from the amendment. A takes a photo of his wife, partner or girlfriend on a beach in her bikini, intending to use that image for his own sexual gratification. Another woman, B, is on the same beach, breastfeeding her baby, and is unintentionally caught by A in the picture. I heard what the noble Lord, Lord Pannick, said, but I respectfully suggest that this would be caught by the proposed amendment. A would have no defence as, first, he intended the picture for sexual gratification and recorded the image for that purpose. Secondly, he would have no defence of consent by B because B did not consent. A would also not be able to have the second defence of reasonably believing that she was giving consent because he had no idea at all that she was in the picture.

That is one example, but this goes further than drafting. Let us say that A was aware that B was caught in the background of the photo but was not aware that she was breastfeeding. Again, A would not be able to say that B had consented or that he reasonably believed that she had consented. Further, would an image of someone breastfeeding that did not actually include the act of breastfeeding—for example, a photograph capturing only a breastfeeding mother’s face—be captured under this amendment? What parts of the body, if I can put it that way, would we require the image to capture? As the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, explained, this is different from the upskirting offence because the law there condescends to particular parts of the body that must be captured in a photo. Would we wish to capture images taken of breastfeeding regardless of whether it is in a private, semi-private or public setting?
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What a load of toe-jam waffle on a bizarre fetish subject, they love all this noble lord and lady stuff too.
 
What a load of toe-jam waffle on a bizarre fetish subject, they love all this noble lord and lady stuff too.
Dont you dare speak ill of the noble lord, Lord David.
It is not the noble lords fault that breastfeeding women are always in the background of pictures he takes with his noble camera.

Ok, maybe its a little bit silly.
The only lords worthy of respect are Buckethead and Darth.
 
Dont you dare speak ill of the noble lord, Lord David.
It is not the noble lords fault that breastfeeding women are always in the background of pictures he takes with his noble camera.

Ok, maybe its a little bit silly.
The only lords worthy of respect are Buckethead and Darth.
is that one of those dirty pictures or the kind where vases and grapes conveniently cover the naughty bits?
 
And in reality noone really cares . Would be forgot by most if it never kept getting brought back up.

Yes should not have attended a party during lockdown but neither should half the country that visited friends and family either.

This guy seems to care. A lot.

There are many John Robinsons across the UK.

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