Gambling Wages/APCW

anniemac

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Just a curiosity question for those involved in the Gambling Wages Challenge at APCW - have you heard anything?

I post several weeks ago over there asking about progress and so far nothing in the way of a reply.

I know it has nothing to do with CM but some of the interested parties are posters here.
 

winbig

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APCW & GW - ALL past issues resolved?

Come on, already. This is ridiculous.

I couldn't stomach most of the BS around the middle, where they start saying that all past issues have been resolved.

Or the part that they say that they've paid out $10,000 to resolve all of these issues. I know of at least one case (acepedro) from here at CM, where they stiffed him on over $50K. There's no telling how many hundreds of thousands of dollars they've stiffed other players for.

Is it time to wipe the slate clean, as they suggest? I think not.

side note: Hmmm, why are comments moderated for this youtube video? I guess they don't want people to post anything that might be anti-GW? :rolleyes:
 
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RobWin

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Come on, already. This is ridiculous.

I couldn't stomach most of the BS around the middle, where they start saying that all past issues have been resolved.

Or the part that they say that they've paid out $10,000 to resolve all of these issues. I know of at least one case (acepedro) from here at CM, where they stiffed him on over $50K. There's no telling how many hundreds of thousands of dollars they've stiffed other players for.

Is it time to wipe the slate clean, as they suggest? I think not.

side note: Hmmm, why are comments moderated for this youtube video? I guess they don't want people to post anything that might be anti-GW? :rolleyes:
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I think if I'm not mistaken it's something like $262,500.20 that Coolcat still owes him...they didn't even bother to mention that one though...you can read J. Todds full report
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on how they paid out the 10K to players...
 

RobWin

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IMO the most shocking thing I read was it seemed to me that LJ's whole motivation behind "The dirty little secrets behind palace of chance" IMHO had nothing to do with getting me paid the money I legitimatly won!! It appears by the first quote.. I was just the smoke screen to get back money she paid those employees.
attack if you want.., I just call it like I see it.

Gawd, can't that sleeping dog issue just go away...this has been hashed and rehashed over and over again...no reason to start flaming another forum member over it...Laurie stated what happened and told the truth about it and tried to help you by mentioning the fact that you didn't get paid...and she also tried to help get you paid and even Bryan asked him about it too...can you not just be a little appreciative....jeeze..:rolleyes:
 

mysticjoz

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Gawd, can't that sleeping dog issue just go away...this has been hashed and rehashed over and over again...no reason to start flaming another forum member over it...Laurie stated what happened and told the truth about it and tried to help you by mentioning the fact that you didn't get paid...and she also tried to help get you paid and even Bryan asked him about it too...can you not just be a little appreciative....jeeze..:rolleyes:

I did not flame anyone.. I was just a pawn as I see it.

No where in her thread did she mention going after them for her money back..
I let this go a long time ago.. but others keep bringing it up. NOT me.

can they just let it go?????
 

RobWin

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I did not flame anyone.. I was just a pawn as I see it.

No where in her thread did she mention going after them for her money back..
I let this go a long time ago.. but others keep bringing it up. NOT me.

can they just let it go?????

This hasn't even been mentioned in the past few weeks until you brought lauriejim into it just now...WTF Mystic...:rolleyes:
 

suzecat

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Joz, JMO no one is happy about any of this. The players involved, the members who read about it, CM who provides this forum so we can have a place to meaningfully explore it...............it goes on and on. JMO, you were robbed of a legitimate win and I, like you, would be pissed as hell about it!

So now comes my "California hippie be cool part" which is: Joz, you know there are no mistakes that don't get fixed, eventually. Karma takes care of that. Maybe it has recently balanced your books, so to speak, so no need to have any ill feelings for anyone?
 

mysticjoz

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Joz, JMO no one is happy about any of this. The players involved, the members who read about it, CM who provides this forum so we can have a place to meaningfully explore it...............it goes on and on. JMO, you were robbed of a legitimate win and I, like you, would be pissed as hell about it!

So now comes my "California hippie be cool part" which is: Joz, you know there are no mistakes that don't get fixed, eventually. Karma takes care of that. Maybe it has recently balanced your books, so to speak, so no need to have any ill feelings for anyone?

Well put.. and thanks suze. I agree. :thumbsup:
 

Pinababy69

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All past issues resolved my ass!! And I don't feel like getting banned or suspended today, so I'll leave it at that. :puke: :puke:
 

anniemac

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This is the biggest pile of BS I have ever seen. Wonder who is going to win the trip for the Challenge?

Rob, you were interested in the outcome of this mess because you and I were the only ones to post in the last couple of weeks at APCW asking about it.

This mess would not have even been opened up again if it hadn't been for the OP wanting to come clean about something.

I think Mystic has every right to be pissed about it. Her name has been bounced around this forum as well as many others and it was none of her doing.

Now that all has been "resolved" I guess we can all "get over it".
 

Rusty

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I think that guy who is owed 250K should post his own youtube video and lend a little balance to proceedings.
Sickening.
 

winbig

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JTodd shows his true colors:

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(btw, if you feel outraged by this whole mess, please cast your vote on youtube; I gave it 1 star.)

Comment:

The APCW has officially sold out. How about all of the other players that HAVEN'T BEEN PAID, but yet are owed money?

How about contacting all of the players that are owed money that DON'T KNOW ABOUT the new management? There's still hundreds of thousands of dollars that are owed to many many other players.

$10,000 isn't a drop in the bucket compared to what's owed to the rest of the players they screwed.

It's not like the don't know how to contact these players.

Reply:

And you are officially a dumbass.

We did everything we could to get players their money. We posted in every forum we could. We put up video after video. We waited two months to get every complaint. What more should we have done? Placed ads on NBC?

We have done FAR more than any other group to recover cash from a site no one else could. All we get is idiots like you who continue to bitch about it and do NOTHING to help.

You think YOU can do better? Go for it, slick! Otherwise shut up.
 

vinylweatherman

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After sitting through 6 minutes of that, I get the impression that it was only Gambling Wages that wanted to cooperate, the owners of the casinos seemed uncooperative, otherwise the suggestion to contact ALL past players would have been a good one, and followed through.

The comments at the end about not having to rush back and play, or promote them again, seems to reveal a motive for this, they were HURTING, they lost so many players and affiliates, and their reputation as rogue was so widespread that they could no longer profit from their model (big bonuses, but screw the players that win with them).

Have they REALLY changed, or have they just adjusted to a new model that gives the impression of change, but they will just rip off players by a different means.

Robert said they were slowly bringing down the level of bonuses, but why not do it at once - they will still be getting new problems in the meantime.

The $10K did NOT come from the casinos, it came from Gambling Wages. There would be no way they could settle ALL the claims given that they talk about a mere 10K as being "a significant sum".

How many times in the past have this group pulled the same stunt - turning over a new leaf, new management, etc. Bryan believed them before, and got his fingers burned, but it seems that APCW are prepared to give them yet another chance.

This is likely to blow up in their faces, and that will be the end of APCW's reputation, even though some believe it has already been tarnished too much.
 

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Quotes from "Robert"... Gambling Wages affiliate manager:

"We're just straight and clean"... :lolup: :rolleyes: :eek:

"We're lowering our high bonus policy... and it will stop all the payout problems and confusion"... :lolup: :lolup: :eek:

Yup... I'm convinced... :lolsign:

Gambling Wages casinos will now be the "crme de la crme" of online casinos... :puke:


And J.Todd's remarks to the comments posted on youtube under the video show what a "class act" he truly is... :rolleyes:



And you are officially a dumbass.

All we get is idiots like you who continue to bitch about it and do NOTHING to help.

You think YOU can do better? Go for it, slick! Otherwise shut up


Yes Sir... "class personified" from J.Todd. :cheers:
 

winbig

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JMO don't ya know :D but JTodd's latest foray into the dark side proves to me that HE is the actual dumbass!

Despiration makes folks do jiggy chit :eek2:

Yep, he's got a couple lackeys posting for him on Youtube, apparently; in support of what they've done.

Don't get me wrong, kudos for getting a handful of players paid, but this is bullshit. :)

And JTodd, I know you're reading this, so why don't you "man up" and prove you're not the dumbass that everyone says you are? You've already proven that you can't take the heat and discuss anything as any responsible adult would do, by running away when the questions got hard.

And yes, it was me that posted the original comment on youtube, so it's not like I'm hiding behind anything....unlike you.

I never once called you out of your name, nor cussed you, but you seem to think it's "grown up" to swear at people when they call you out.

side note: Isn't it weird that JTodd himself didn't post this week's video here? I wonder why? He's been posting them religiously for weeks now....:rolleyes:
 

mojo

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We have done FAR more than any other group to recover cash from a site no one else could.

I would like to humbly say that myself and many affiliates I know do the very best and have helped many players on an individual level and I resent the implication that apcw is the only group that helps.

edit to add: casinomeister stands out above all.
 
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suzecat

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I would like to humbly say that myself and many affiliates I know do the very best and have helped many players on an individual level and I resent the implication that apcw is the only group that helps.


NO DA!!!!!!!!!!!! JTodd, you are a miserable dumbass making a buck off people who have already been screwed by these fools! :mad: JMO:D


JTodd, what's the weather like on that planet you call home?
 

winbig

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I think if I'm not mistaken it's something like $262,500.20 that Coolcat still owes him...they didn't even bother to mention that one though...you can read J. Todds full report
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on how they paid out the 10K to players...

I like how they put the $125 case in there as a "major" case. :rolleyes:

And why this?

Total Recovered for Player: $9,000 ( To be paid in $1,250 installments every ten days )

Why 10 days, instead of splitting it up into 2 monthly installments of $4500 instead of 7.2 payments of $1250? :confused:
 

chuchu59

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Come on, already. This is ridiculous.

I couldn't stomach most of the BS around the middle, where they start saying that all past issues have been resolved.

Or the part that they say that they've paid out $10,000 to resolve all of these issues. I know of at least one case (acepedro) from here at CM, where they stiffed him on over $50K. There's no telling how many hundreds of thousands of dollars they've stiffed other players for.

Is it time to wipe the slate clean, as they suggest? I think not.

side note: Hmmm, why are comments moderated for this youtube video? I guess they don't want people to post anything that might be anti-GW? :rolleyes:
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That guy at the video says that all issues that were brought to him were resolved specifically. That may be true and what a nice way to bring out a message that all is fine and dandy with the rogues.

Now that they have turned over a new leaf, I am rushing to fund my ecocard to deposit. Maybe I might turn out to be the first with a new unresolved issue and seek their help.:lolup::lolup:
 

RobWin

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I like how they put the $125 case in there as a "major" case. :rolleyes:

And why this?



Why 10 days, instead of splitting it up into 2 monthly installments of $4500 instead of 7.2 payments of $1250? :confused:

Yea exactly, two and a half months to pay out a win of only $9K...that's unfreaking real...:rolleyes:
 

mojo

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I am a very small affiliate and a player. I have played at GW and affiliated. Please don't yell at me! I saw a lot of mixed emotions on so many boards! Some like playing and win some serious bucks and get paid no prob. Some win but can't get paid. Some win on the freebies an we all know what happens then. Others have gotten paid on a huge cash out with NO PROBLEM! :eek2: So I did a poll of my own. I hope it's ok to post it. Just a mojoism.

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