Flaming/Abusive Behavior

[Nifty29]

I would like to add that I commend Funeral979 for being bold enough to publicly speak his feelings and that giving him a thank you is in no way a high five, it is a thanks for still being the real human we all wish we were or could be.
Speaking out to someone is a very difficult thing to do and if something bothers someone and nothing is ever said then things can build into something much bigger than the original problem.
So knowing there are still some people that will be bold enough to stand on a principle, a feeling, a thought or idea, makes me a bit happier about this world we all exist in together.
Giving thanks can be construed in many ways, especially if it offends someone else, but keep in mind, giving thanks is a right and our privilege, to simply appreciate the person we give thanks to.

So thank you Funeral for being real, in the open, publicly, I appreciate knowing I share this world with people like you. Have a great week and many big wins!

I'm glad you feel that attacking other members and using foul language is worthy of your thanks.

IMO all thanks should be removed from the original post if the mods are going to be consistent I.e if creating a brand new thread to attack specific members isn't flaming then I think we need to have it re-defined.

A thread about flaming/abuse IN GENERAL? No problem, but once individuals are mentioned and their comments described as sickening etc it becomes a different animal.

I won't even go into the whole hypocrisy thing I.e the ones complaining being perpetrators themselves. I've been guilty before but at least I admit it.

If you consistently don't like what someone says, then use the IGNORE feature...don't start threads to take a shot at them and attempt to disguise it as something else.

 

[rainmaker]

This is what I am not understanding at the moment. Why does he need to do it in a PM? Isn't a forum a public place to post your thoughts, ideas and issues? I mean, if I had a problem with something, someone or some place I should be able to air my concerns without worrying about the backlash of other posters and their feelings about whether I should have posted something, or not. What some may feel was a personal attack, others view as justified. It is what it is, and I think it's time for everyone to relax and smoke a beer.

I like to think of this forum as a place with a higher grade of "professional quality". Most of the active people on this forum seems to have much knowledge about gambling/gambling industry etc. I also think this is the reason why so many casinos are choosing to use resources here/ being represented.

My point is. If the tendency will be that the forum loses it focus, and instead becomes a place where members are more interested in public dramatizations of personal issues, then maybe the forum will lose some of its good reputation (over time).

So yes, I believe that personal issues should be handled privately

 

[Brooklyn]

I like to think of this forum as a place with a higher grade of "professional quality". Most of the active people on this forum seems to have much knowledge about gambling/gambling industry etc. I also think this is the reason why so many casinos are choosing to use resources here/ being represented.

My point is. If the tendency will be that the forum loses it focus, and instead becomes a place where members are more interested in public dramatizations of personal issues, then maybe the forum will lose some of its good reputation (over time).

So yes, I believe that personal issues should be handled privately

Understood. I respect your position .

 

[jod5413]

I thanked the last post by NIfty. Not because he is a friend, but because it is a fair appraisal of the OP and the other members that thought it was "all right to start this thread".

Why is it OK to bash me for my lack of politeness and tact, which a lot of you call trolling, when Funeral can trash talk about me? What makes his post OK and mine not?

Like Swampy said, hypocritical. I agree.

I also agree that this thread should be shut down, as I can not afford any more "INFRACTIONS" from people complaining about me and my posts. However, if you honestly feel the need to complain, do it the right way.

 

[funeral979]

Let me just tell you a little something about myself. I am NOT a troublemaker, nor did I start this thread with the intention of starting trouble. I am a rather soft spoken person, and probably can be described as being thin skinned....so maybe I get bothered more by flaming than others. I cannot stand when people are inconsiderate of others...I have always been that way. The world would be a much better place if everyone respected each others feelings...and treated each other like human beings. So sorry if I get worked up by other members lack of consideration.

Now the irony bit...I reread my original post twice...and for the life of me I cannot see how I attacked or flamed jod in anyway. What I said was sickening was how she was not banned but oren was. I didn't even say her post was sickening, or that she was. It was more of an attack on some of the politics and favoritism that goes on behind the scenes in the forum. It certaintly makes this forum a less enjoyable place to visit....and a reason I don't post as much as I used to (and I am sure others feel this way as well). I did not call her an idiot or make any sort of personal attack.....I am not the type of person who would even fathom saying something like that to another person.

As expected, the majority of the people who want this thread closed are those that bully others the most. To do so would just strengthen my assesment that there are a few members who do enjoy special privileges.

 

[maxd]

This is what I am not understanding at the moment. Why does he need to do it in a PM?

Rainmaker pretty much covered this thumbsup but I'll add another word or two:

One big reason we advocate the PM route on topics like this is that they are highly prone to being incendiary. To make a long story short a general rule of forum management is that anything that can be taken the wrong way and blown out of proportion probably will be, often explosively.

In other words, the PM route is a much safer -- as in less prone to blow up in your face -- route, and since it usually produces the same results why take the risk?

FYI, JMO, not official CM policy.

I am a rather soft spoken person ... so maybe I get bothered more by flaming than others ... It was more of an attack on some of the politics and favoritism that goes on behind the scenes in the forum.

Politics and favoritism the you believe goes on behind the scenes. That doesn't make it so, or real, or have any basis in fact. It doesn't by the way, have any basis in fact, but you are of course entitled to your opinion. The truth (if you're interested) is that Bryan and the rest mods of us are simply too damn busy to play politics and favourites and so forth: that shit takes WAY too much time and effort and frankly we've got better things to do.

And I'd beg to differ that you are quite the soft-spoken, "hey, no worries", kind of forum participant that you are painting yourself to be. Like it or not you're as much of the rank-and-file here as anyone else, and your posting record has its fair share of stains on it too. That's not an attack so please don't take it as such, I'm just saying that there is another way to look at that picture of you that you're giving us here. FWIW, I too am hardly free of sin hereabouts so I'm not singling you out, just saying that a little colour balance on that image of yourself might be in order.

 

[jetset]

Amazing that this thread - which covers such previously well-trodden ground - can generate six pages and counting.

This forum is equipped with member facilities that could obviate the need for this public display of personal enmities, misconceptions, outrage and misunderstandings...they are the 'report post' and 'ignore' buttons.

I'm strongly against flaming and discourtesy, both of which are unproductive, unnecessary and avoidable with a little self control and sensitivity imo, but making it a public issue (yet again) imo resurrects old hostilities and just disrupts the forum.

Better to sort it out with the person whose posts bug you, and if that proves impossible via PM then call in a moderator to resolve the matter...privately.

Still and all, I'm glad there was one positive outcome - it brought Greasemonkey back to life, whose posts I always find interesting, and whose absence for whatever reason I had noted. A pity you felt a need to stay away instead of using the ignore button, GM

 

[funeral979]

And I'd beg to differ that you are quite the soft-spoken, "hey, no worries", kind of forum participant that you are painting yourself to be.

To be fair, I said I was a soft spoken person, not a soft spoken forum participant

I never said I was angel.....if something really gets under my skin, I do admit to posting a little sooner than I probably should.

 

[anniemac]

I, for one, believe that this thread should be put out of its misery.

All some posters are doing are chasing their tails around and around and saying the same old tired stuff.

Funeral, you didn't like what Jod posted. Jod was her abrasive self. We get that.

Everyone should just give it a rest and move on. Truthfully, it's getting kind of embarassing to read.

 

[jetset]

Amen to the embarrassment!

 

[funeral979]

Amen to the embarrassment!

You are entitled to your opinion sir, but this is the Attic....and I have seen far worse topics posted here.

 

[lots0]

You are entitled to your opinion sir, but this is the Attic....and I have seen far worse topics posted here.

If were you I would completely embarrassed for starting such a juvenile, hypocritical and moronic thread.

You say you didn't start this thread with the intention of causing trouble... I don't believe you... I think your getting just what you wanted. ATTENTION.

You indicate you don't like it here, you think things are unfair and some people get treated better than others and some people are mean to you.... WELLLLL... First of all Welcome to the grown up world... Second, If you don't like it here as much as you say, your always free to not participate.

 

[Brooklyn]

Ok! Who needs a hug?

 

[BingoT]

Ok! Who needs a hug?

Aww a group hug to all.

 

[rainmaker]

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[Casinomeister]

Okay - as soon as someone started posting pictures of cats hugging, I knew it was time to put a fork in this.

Bye thread