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I’ve hopped back on bonanza at Leo this evening and it seems to be playing very nicely at the moment....
(Disclaimer: if you try it and lose please don’t blame me lol)

The question is....will I resist chilli with these winnings????
Given you're in the Chilli thread, I'd say 'not likely' :p
 
I’ve hopped back on bonanza at Leo this evening and it seems to be playing very nicely at the moment....
(Disclaimer: if you try it and lose please don’t blame me lol)

The question is....will I resist chilli with these winnings????

If you do, let's hope your balance doesn't decrease peppertually.
 
brilliant but somewhat unethical idea from BTG, well brilliant for them anyways. Its business so cant really blame them, as long as the laws allow them to do it.

Straight selling off a feature that might not end up being a feature at all, at just 50x bet is bloody brilliant tbh. Right now there are probably people buying 10's of features, gambling it all away without actually playing a single spin

i might sound a bit harsh but id like UKGC to look into this, because paying $2k not to actually spin at all because you lost it pre-feature might even be a bigger problem than being able to set up more than autospins imo :)
 
I'm always one for giving credit where it's due so here goes.....wait for it......it might spice things up a bit....if it's not too hot to handle of course. I had a bonus round that was on fire.... (enough poor attempts at puns yet?)

Anyhow: Yes Goat, you were right as I didn't resist but swore to myself I would not succumb to the purchase of extra spice. Again I told myself lies.
Balance nearly gone so i though 'sod it'.
I had a feature buy that was only 22.00 (30.00 started), took it and it gave H O T +4 or 12 spins.

The gamble was 16 or 0 (yes you have to defeat the 0 monster at least twice to get spins either way).

Nope, Nope not falling for it so took the 12 spins.
Here we go - now to walk away with about £10 more than I had at 20:55pm yesterday lol

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See the letsgiveitaspin guy got a nice 1100x bought feature, winning the gamble some 3 or 4 times.
:D

Of course he did!
Massive hits us regular peeps dream of for example, final spin, on x24 multi he hits a handful of purple chillies!

Could it be he plays so much?? Or even that he is poasibly a major affiliate? Imagine the throngs who would use his links to sign up!
 
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Gave this a bit of a bash today after Leo Vegas gave out 10 whole spins on it.

To my amazement, I carried on playing with the couple of quid I'd accrued and somehow triggered the bonus fairly early, resulting in a £20-odd win!

Peaked at about 60 or so before the fun receded, but not before hopping on Bonanza 'for a laugh'. About 30 spins I was getting that nasty vibe off it and basically ran away like a little girl. Couldn't hack the four scatters for 12 spins anymore.

So I'm not sure if I 'prefer' Extra Chilli over Bonanza, it's the same game but a little more forgiving. The bonuses are of course more frequent, and I've had a terrible one at 12 spins but some great ones on 8.

I'd like to think it redresses some of Bonanza's flaws and will certainly maintain one's bankroll better. It will see more play from me for sure.

But the gamble feature still blows. Tried it once, so I can say I tried it, and won :oops: but never again. Far better to hold out for a good multiplier on 8 spins or look for the +4 or retrigger. It's got to be better than risking it all (the swine) :cool:
 
There is really no difference in gambling the spins before the bonus, or getting the bonus, and gambling the whole thing on red or black card.. (like a lot of slots can do)

its all gambling .. all .. or nothing.....
 
Like a dick i am i went back. managed to trigger bonus 4 times, and gambled all 4 times and lost.............:what::what::eek::eek::eek:

one time i did play with 8 spins i won just over £1. so i feel like winning anything decent with 8 spins is impossible so you have to gamble but when you do you lose them all. great slot!
 
Like a dick i am i went back. managed to trigger bonus 4 times, and gambled all 4 times and lost.............:what::what::eek::eek::eek:

one time i did play with 8 spins i won just over £1. so i feel like winning anything decent with 8 spins is impossible so you have to gamble but when you do you lose them all. great slot!
I agree it's not ideal, but eight spins have been 'OK' for the most part. It is subjective of course but Bonanza also likes to belt out some stinkers on 12 spins regularly, not to mention the dreaded 17 spin curse :eek:

I don't see why people feel the need to panic on it and risk all for the extra four spins. It's far too big a gamble. I'm quite confident to take my chances on the eight, as the +4s love to drop in quite frequently. No need to gamble (although who wouldn't love the 24 spins) :D
 
If you feel that 8 spins isn't enough and you need to "gamble" it all of the time to get up to 12, you might as well play Bonanza at that point where you don't need to gamble for anything. This will be an interesting game for me to play once it isn't on a casino where I can't play BTG to begin with.
 
See the letsgiveitaspin guy got a nice 1100x bought feature, winning the gamble some 3 or 4 times.
:D
It's the affiliate 110% RTP version he was on - it's my turn on it next week.
 
It's the affiliate 110% RTP version he was on - it's my turn on it next week.

I think its my turn tonight, I'll be putting some screenies in the winning thread later, but so far over 3k up!
I actually think its quite predictable, 16 spins seems about the best, pretty much every time I've took 20 its paid less than 16's do, and 8 is a waste of time. It also seemed to get stuck in a loop for half an hour, the pattern was lose gamble, lose gamble, win 16 spins, get roughly 3 x buy in value, lose, lose, 3x buy in, it did that for about 30 spins. I had set myself a 3 lose limit then I would come off it and withdraw and every time I though, right, last go, it would win again! Also, if you get a win on the first spin, any win, you seem much more likely to have a good bonus, even if the next 5 spins don't pay anything!
 
@colinsunderland What amazing wins you hit. congratulations and well done.
I calculated the following rise in balance:

22:24 £37.66

22:43 £492.90

22:48 £2170.60

23:20 £2820.70

23:58 £3166.30

So in just over an hour and a half your balance grew by an enormous £3128.64

which equates to an hourly rate of approximately £2085 per hour.
That's more than a premier league football player i suspect! lol
 
Of course he did!
Massive hits us regular peeps dream of for example, final spin, on x24 multi he hits a handful of purple chillies!

Could it be he plays so much?? Or even that he is poasibly a major affiliate? Imagine the throngs who would use his links to sign up!

Bloody hell, all they do is high five each other.

Bonus round... High five.
100x win... High five.
Retrigger... High five.
Teas ready... high five.
Knock one out... High five.
 
brilliant but somewhat unethical idea from BTG, well brilliant for them anyways. Its business so cant really blame them, as long as the laws allow them to do it.

Straight selling off a feature that might not end up being a feature at all, at just 50x bet is bloody brilliant tbh. Right now there are probably people buying 10's of features, gambling it all away without actually playing a single spin

i might sound a bit harsh but id like UKGC to look into this, because paying $2k not to actually spin at all because you lost it pre-feature might even be a bigger problem than being able to set up more than autospins imo :)

So let me get this straight... you'd like the UKGC to look in to players gambling the free spins and losing... on a gambling game. On a gambling site.

I can see the headline now "Players gambling on gambling sites and losing"....

The last time I looked no one forced the players to gamble the free spins...
 
So let me get this straight... you'd like the UKGC to look in to players gambling the free spins and losing... on a gambling game. On a gambling site.

I can see the headline now "Players gambling on gambling sites and losing"....

The last time I looked no one forced the players to gamble the free spins...
This is gambling within gambling. Sort of like Inception but with slots :eek:

Ban this sick filth NOW! :D
 
This is gambling within gambling. Sort of like Inception but with slots :eek:

Ban this sick filth NOW! :D

Next they'll be banning granny porn as well and I won't have ANYTHING to do in the evenings :(
 
The gamble feature scares the hell out of me so I haven't tried the slot yet. But if it was implied into bonanza I would gamble the sh#t out of it :D
 
A few thoughts on chilli stratagy based on a few hours of free play, trying to find the best ways of giving
a reasonable chance of winning a bit or at least getting some play time for your money
Most of the play was based on buying features which should be the way to go as the rtp is higher than
playing the standard game,sure some will dissagree but I am just saying what I did.
My conclusions are as follows -

1) 8 spins are a total waste of space, very unlikely to give a decent return,always gamble these.

2) If the bought feature brings up +4 symbols giving 12 or more spins,take them as you are on a winner,
12 spins will have an average value of almost twice the buy value

3) Dont be fooled by the enticing pattern of the higher 3 gambles, BGT have been very clever here making
the player think it is very easy to win these, in reality the odds are 60/40 in favour of winning
which means if you gamble twice or more, the chance of losing is higher than winning.

4) If you lose the gamble, accept it and dont be tempted to increase the buy value,that can end in tears
very fast.

Just a few of my thoughts, feel free to tear them to shreds,ignore me or call me what you like
 
A few thoughts on chilli stratagy based on a few hours of free play, trying to find the best ways of giving
a reasonable chance of winning a bit or at least getting some play time for your money
Most of the play was based on buying features which should be the way to go as the rtp is higher than
playing the standard game,sure some will dissagree but I am just saying what I did.
My conclusions are as follows -

1) 8 spins are a total waste of space, very unlikely to give a decent return,always gamble these.

2) If the bought feature brings up +4 symbols giving 12 or more spins,take them as you are on a winner,
12 spins will have an average value of almost twice the buy value

3) Dont be fooled by the enticing pattern of the higher 3 gambles, BGT have been very clever here making
the player think it is very easy to win these, in reality the odds are 60/40 in favour of winning
which means if you gamble twice or more, the chance of losing is higher than winning.

4) If you lose the gamble, accept it and dont be tempted to increase the buy value,that can end in tears
very fast.

Just a few of my thoughts, feel free to tear them to shreds,ignore me or call me what you like
So essentially gamble every time to try and get the 12 spins? How many gambles would one have to lose just to get them?
 
I would think too many times. I can already tell we are conditioned to Bonanza so anything less than 12 spins is bad! I take what I can get IMO. If I were to gamble the spins everytime... I would be asking myself why don't I just play Bonanza instead. Sure I can't buy a feature, but I rarely use it to begin with...
 
I was wary of the budget eight spins at first but have reconsidered. Too easy to have the 12+ and watch in horror as the spins fall flat.

On the other hand, I've witnessed good bonus rounds even on Bonanza within the first few spins. A lot of my best bonuses have come on sub- 10x multipliers. I think even with 8 spins the multiplier is more than capable of achieving a mid- 10s figure.

Often when having lots of spins and a decent multiplier have I seen the game peter out with seven or eight final spins :mad:

So I don't think the initial free spin number is as crucial as we're led to believe....
 
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So let me get this straight... you'd like the UKGC to look in to players gambling the free spins and losing... on a gambling game. On a gambling site.

I can see the headline now "Players gambling on gambling sites and losing"....

The last time I looked no one forced the players to gamble the free spins...

so you don't see a problem with being asked straight away to gamble the x amount you bought feature for, and risk 8 spins for 4 lose and get fuck all. we all know they can give piss poor wins 97% of the time. and we all know 24 spins can mean fuck all on BTG slots
 
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AAAAAARRRRRGHHHHHHHHH BRAINDAMAGE !!!!!!!!

Which Idiot put this kind of Sound / Music=?! in the Bonus Game its HORROR !!!! When u have to play the bonus -.-
 
2) If the bought feature brings up +4 symbols giving 12 or more spins,take them as you are on a winner,
12 spins will have an average value of almost twice the buy value


Just a few of my thoughts, feel free to tear them to shreds,ignore me or call me what you like

I was the happy guy and did it that way but at the end 8€ / 20cent betsize
 
Think its a matter of chose your poison,if you are happy to play for hours before getting a 12 spin bonus,but
without risk of losing it,Bonanza is the game for you.
If you want to go for a 16+ spin feature whenever you want,but with the risk of losing it màny times,try Chilli.
Early days still with this slot,I will not be playing for real until VS have it,so my opinions might well change.
 
Wonder if BTG have anticipated players becoming fed up with the eight spin bonuses and gamble failures, so that eventually everyone drops this and reverts back to Bonanza? Or do they envision punters becoming addicted to 'gambling the feature' and eventually dropping Bonanza altogether?

Seems like quite a short term risk by them all things considered......
 
Wonder if BTG have anticipated players becoming fed up with the eight spin bonuses and gamble failures, so that eventually everyone drops this and reverts back to Bonanza? Or do they envision punters becoming addicted to 'gambling the feature' and eventually dropping Bonanza altogether?

Seems like quite a short term risk by them all things considered......


Bonanza will always be there money maker, and a lot of players will get fed up of the poor pays on 8 spins on extra chilli thats what there counting on quick easy money (getting you buying features)
 
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Wonder if BTG have anticipated players becoming fed up with the eight spin bonuses and gamble failures, so that eventually everyone drops this and reverts back to Bonanza? Or do they envision punters becoming addicted to 'gambling the feature' and eventually dropping Bonanza altogether?

Seems like quite a short term risk by them all things considered......

First time i didn t checked the Situation i thought i could win some more spins and if not the Feature starts without the bonus spins so I gambled and lost bye 10€ -.-
 
So let me get this straight... you'd like the UKGC to look in to players gambling the free spins and losing... on a gambling game. On a gambling site.

I can see the headline now "Players gambling on gambling sites and losing"....

The last time I looked no one forced the players to gamble the free spins...

Yes, i want buying feature for $2k and not getting a feature gone. I want being able to lose $10k in a matter of minutes gone. As odd as it sounds i find that much more dangerous than being able to use autospins so id prefer if UKGC could put their focus on more important things first.

I get it its business and as long as its allowed companies like btg are going to abuse it, but being able to buy $10k worth of features, in matter of minutes, where is very much possible not to actually play a single feature might not sound ridiculous to slot developer like you, but for the rest of is it does feel a bit dodgy.

and yes saying "nobody forced gamblers to gamble" is a very valid excuse to have it as a feature.

Whats next? is it going to be a slot where you buy feature for $20k and can gamble it away 40 times til you get maximum (aka optimal) amount of free spins? I mean it would be ok because nobody forces you to buy $20k features and/or use gamble on it, but where do we draw a line?
 
There'll be quite a few developers thinking about whether to include similar risk features in their bonuses now for sure.

15 spins at 3x? Pah! You start with 10 spins at 1x!, but if you just take a chance on the wheel......
 
There'll be quite a few developers thinking about whether to include similar risk features in their bonuses now for sure.

15 spins at 3x? Pah! You start with 10 spins at 1x!, but if you just take a chance on the wheel......

thats my point exactly. soon enough we will be starting with 1 spins at 1x but gambling the feature could get you to 1958 spins with 12 billions of x, you just have to keep on gambling. Nobody is going to force you of course, you are free to take that one spin with 1x so its all good.
 
Yes, i want buying feature for $2k and not getting a feature gone. I want being able to lose $10k in a matter of minutes gone. As odd as it sounds i find that much more dangerous than being able to use autospins so id prefer if UKGC could put their focus on more important things first.

I get it its business and as long as its allowed companies like btg are going to abuse it, but being able to buy $10k worth of features, in matter of minutes, where is very much possible not to actually play a single feature might not sound ridiculous to slot developer like you, but for the rest of is it does feel a bit dodgy.

and yes saying "nobody forced gamblers to gamble" is a very valid excuse to have it as a feature.

Whats next? is it going to be a slot where you buy feature for $20k and can gamble it away 40 times til you get maximum (aka optimal) amount of free spins? I mean it would be ok because nobody forces you to buy $20k features and/or use gamble on it, but where do we draw a line?


I was thinking the same


Trancemonkey

where does it stop with slot makers ?.
when would you think a slot provider is pushing things to far ?.
when do you think the UKGC should say, hang on a minute your taking the piss?.

Or do slot providers think its all fair game as long as they make money?.
 

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