Evolution Live Roulette - the most awesome thread of conspiracy theorists

[Borgie]

I have told you what they are doing. Record your sessions and pay close attention. There will be a quick jerk/pause and a new feed will be replaced over the true live feed. Its all done by trick camera action or holograms. Try playing live BJ and record it. You will see the Jerk/pauses on all the dealers 21s and BJ. By noticing these glitches you can tell the outcome pretty easily. Its all done by camera actions. Like watching a magician on television. The same is with live games. Its manipulated... Here is a perfect example. Watch the pause in this video and the feed being switched at the 13 sec mark

Ooh like Paul Daniel's (rip) or David Copperfield or Sooty ... cool. Izzy whizzy lets get busy

 

[pinnit2014]

Doesn't look too comfortable either. I'm worried she has problems breathing

To be fair, my breathing changed somewhat after watching that

 

[paul7388]

I am so sorry for not being here in your time of need.
I was at another forum trying to convince people that the earth is infact round, and hitler does not live on the moon.

How dare you. You may indeed be correct now as he is probably dead by now. But Neil Armstrong brought back photographic proof of him living there including his house. It is all hid away in area51.

 

[Kroffe]

How dare you. You may indeed be true now as he is probably dead by now. But Neil Armstrong brought back photographic proof of him living there including his house. It is all hid away in area51.

We should probably storm it or something so we can look for ourselves and know for sure.

 

[kelapa]

I have told you what they are doing. Record your sessions and pay close attention. There will be a quick jerk/pause and a new feed will be replaced over the true live feed. Its all done by trick camera action or holograms. Try playing live BJ and record it. You will see the Jerk/pauses on all the dealers 21s and BJ. By noticing these glitches you can tell the outcome pretty easily. Its all done by camera actions. Like watching a magician on television. The same is with live games. Its manipulated... Here is a perfect example. Watch the pause in this video and the feed being switched at the 13 sec mark

I don't know anything about those games, and I definitely won't rule out cheating anywhere... but if it's rigged, that is most definitely NOT the way they'd be doing it.

So.. they cooked up a forged video clip with the dealer in the exact same position... in less than half a second? If they were capable of that, that would mean they're as technologically advanced as NASA... and with computers at least as powerful as those used for the Large Hadron Collider.
And in that case, they certainly would NOT have that little pause at the 0:13 mark.

When Evolution (or another company) rigs their games, it'll be with simpler, cheaper and more reliable methods.

 

[goatwack]

We all know Evolution use a far simpler method

Jared the wizard

 

[kelapa]

Ah yes the old goblin balls.

 

[WinSumTon]

I don't know anything about those games, and I definitely won't rule out cheating anywhere... but if it's rigged, that is most definitely NOT the way they'd be doing it.

So.. they cooked up a forged video clip with the dealer in the exact same position... in less than half a second? If they were capable of that, that would mean they're as technologically advanced as NASA... and with computers at least as powerful as those used for the Large Hadron Collider.
And in that case, they certainly would NOT have that little pause at the 0:13 mark.

When Evolution (or another company) rigs their games, it'll be with simpler, cheaper and more reliable methods.

Yes is it and they are using RFID technology to do so...

 

[WinSumTon]

Another rigged evolution gaming episode

 

[Kroffe]

Just gonna throw this in here.



How can we know the dealers are really who they say they are?
Maybe its just some fat dude sitting there and not the big-chested female we think.

Edit: The Nicolas Cage ones are my favorites

 

[goatwack]

Steve Buscemi

How can I ever look at Reservoir Dogs in the same light again

 

[Mr_Slot5]

As someone who doesn't play these games, has no interest in playing live games and never has, the first thought I had when watching some of these played on twitch streams is that it looks completely CGI. Even the numbers on the cards for Blackjack look CGI.

 

[bradztheman]

As someone who doesn't play these games, has no interest in playing live games and never has, the first thought I had when watching some of these played on twitch streams is that it looks completely CGI. Even the numbers on the cards for Blackjack look CGI.

I wouldn't say cgi, more like magnet, air/suction. I think its all linked and pays you out over an overall winning percentage, probs around just 30/40% depending on the player. My bad luck run continues.

does anyone know where diamond roulette and pearle roulette is hosted? Im guessing china, i seem to have better luck on these tables rather than on the latvian dealer tables..

as soon as you do 2 dozens or 2 sections, (24 numbers), it doesnt like it and will completely d1ck you!! 1win then 2,3,4 losses, in a row. Really doesnt compare to the outcomes i used to see in the real life casino's in uk.

 

[Borgie]

Oh wow I had been without this thread for over a month !! - no wonder I have the jitters. Welcome back favourite thread ! Roulette anyone ?

 

[neilw]

does anyone know where diamond roulette and pearle roulette is hosted? Im guessing china, i seem to have better luck on these tables rather than on the latvian dealer tables..

These are streamed from the Playtech studio in Manila, Philippines.

 

[mark1972]

Today's spins:

Round 1: ball lands on winner, jumps out, € 12.50 gone
Round 2: ball lands on winner, jumps out, € 12.50 gone
Round 3: ball lands on winner, jumps out, € 15 gone
Round 4: didn't play, ball lands on jackpot
Round 5: didn't play, ball lands on jackpot
Round 6: ball lands on winner, jumps out, € 8.50 gone
Round 7: ball lands on winner, jumps out, € 12 gone
Round 8: didn't play, ball lands on jackpot
Round 9: ball lands on zero, the only time I left it unchipped, € 16 gone
Round 10: only enough money left to chip a few numbers, ball lands next door to the highest-scoring one, € 4.50 gone (RIP)
Round 11: didn't play, ball lands on jackpot
Round 12: didn't play, ball lands on jackpot
Round 13: didn't play, ball lands on jackpot
Round 14: didn't play, ball lands on jackpot
Round 15: small deposit added; ball (very gently) lands on winner, suddenly goes berzerk, leaps out of the winning number and starts racing around the wheel until it lands on the opposite end, € 10 gone (RIP)
Round 16: didn't play, ball lands exactly on the same winning number, but this time stays there

Evolution Roulette truly seems to be optimised for maximum sadistic enjoyment on their part.
They don't waste a single opportunity to grind you down in the most agonising way possible.

NOTE:
- Every time I played, my chance of making a profit was 66% or more (except round 10).
- I am now going on exactly 104 spins with these odds since it last earned me anything (no matter how small).
- By "jackpot", I don't just mean any winning number. Those are the few that I'd dropped an extra chip on.


Anyone want to have a stab at calculating what the odds are of losing like this? Pretty much constantly? For the better part of a year and a half?


Meanwhile, I'm going to have a few "bets" without money now (just guessing where the ball will drop without putting chips on the table). Let's see how that works out.
edit: 5 out of 9 right. Not terrible. Certainly better than 0 out of 104.

I have been following this for some time, i think the roulette tables from Evolution Gaming are doubtfull to say the least.

I am pretty sure that the outcome can be manipulated on those wheels even if the wheel is already spinning. I would suggest for the sake of transparancy they make the wheels and all tables from transparant material, this way everyone know its save. The equipment is available on the market.

Why most casinos dont have transparant wheels?

Perhaps interesting to know : All the airpressure roulette tables are basically RNG based, this is why you see strange jumps, the number is already generated when the wheel starts spinning/or while spinning. I am referring to the autoroulette and such. I would not be suprised they even have this on the normal wheels as well. (thats why you see accelerations and such)

RNG = Random Number Generator.

This RNG technique is BTW approved by the gaming commitee(s) who promises fairplay. The argument they hold is that as long as its RNG its random enough. This means its allowed to "help" the ball into the correct pocket ;-) The problem is that the casino can overwrite this random number whilst spinning.

Since its allowed you cannot call it cheating BTW!

About proof : Make the tables transparant and noone will complain. (Except the casino most probably ;-)) Or let the guy spinning the wheel take magnet in its pocket and show the people the ball is not magnetic. Its so simple to let people see they are not cheating, why the casino wont show that?

There is absolutely no proof they are playing fair, and thats for sure, if you have nothing to hide and 2,37% profit is enough why not make everything transparant? I run a business 2,37% makes not much profit nor makes any stakeholder happy ;-)

Making tables and wheels transparant is the only solution to stop this discussion, its so easily done while they dont. Its obvious they have to hide their winning recipe

Mind you, I dont say you cant win, i know for sure people are winning on Evolution Gaming, but for me the RNG is not my thing, i rather see the ball land naturally. I dont like the casino to "help" the ball into the desired pocket. Best advise is to avoid any online casino! "Helping" the ball into the desired pocket cant ever be called fairplay. The malta license is just a joke.

 

[Borgie]

It's my thread welcome back baby ....

 

[mark1972]

Yes is it and they are using RFID technology to do so...

Immersive table looks pretty valid if you ask me, its the closest to real experience.
*snip*

 

[brizman]

In my opinion..10 years of playing evolution, it is certainly not random. I stopped playing last year. There was just way too many questionable spins. The higher you stake, the worse it gets. If you think its rigged..which i do, just avoid.

 

[goatwack]

This.....thread.....

 

[samdog21]

I only play evelotion live when iam up a ton of money because only way to make money but it's not rigged. same players every time complaining but there are every time I am there. it's like vs in the battles every single day same assholes complain vs is rigged but they still play. I said to them you are the bot you get paid by vs to complain lmfao.

 

[goatwack]

Has it been 4 1/2 years since this thread's inception?

And yet still, we know not if it's rigged. Maybe it was, but has since evolved into fairness & truth?

 

[brizman]

Has it been 4 1/2 years since this thread's inception?

And yet still, we know not if it's rigged. Maybe it was, but has since evolved into fairness & truth?

Alas...we may never know how the murky world of online casinos and roulette works.

 

[Speedy38]

I dont play very much roulette online but I saw one time something strange. Since then I dont touch online roulette anymore. What happend was the ball was landing in a number then you saw the ball being placed in a other nummer on a very differtent part off the wheel.

 

[goatwack]

I suppose one could call that cheating