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Discussion in 'The Attic' started by DepositSpinLose, Dec 5, 2014.

    Dec 5, 2014
  1. DepositSpinLose

    DepositSpinLose Experienced Member

    self employed
    british columbia
    hey all. I am not complaining or bitching with this post so I didn't put it in the complaint section. I didn't post it in the casino section because I feel that I would just get jumped and mob ruled. so I put it here in the attic just to tell you folks about my 2014 netent adventures.

    anyways I have checked my deposit history at the 3 netent provider casinos I play at and its crazy! I have made over 140 deposits, all between $25 to $100, mostly 50's and 75's because I have to use Ukash vouchers.

    at these 3 casinos I only play netent games, I have tried a few other games but never ever hit on those. I deposit to play netent games mostly because I like the games. my bets are from 9 cents when on last few bucks and up to $2, with a few $5 spins when up over $100 bankroll. yes I mostly play the high variance games like dead or alive, reel steal, starburst etc. have some fun sometimes but it has not been a good year for me playing netent.

    how many withdrawals have I made in 2014 playing netent games? not one. I think I got over $200 at least 4 times but kept playing in hopes of continued luck in those sessions. this is friggin crazy don't you think? I tell myself I am just having a bad streak but over 140 deposits in one year with no cashouts? wow! I don't know what is going on with my luck with netent, I win here and there on other game brands, but just cant break this streak this year. hopefully I have a better year with them next year.

    okay then guys, start bashing me for telling my little story.:D
  2. Dec 5, 2014
  3. Wild Reels

    Wild Reels Meister Member webmeister

    United Kingdom
    the question is at what point would you consider cashing out from a deposit of $100 ? $200, $500 or $1000+ , the only things i can pick from it are maybe your cash out expectations are way too high possibly, or bet size for the games you're playing, $5 spins when over $100 is super risky, the most i'd be looking at would be $1.

    More questions rather than opinions :D
    3 people like this.
  4. Dec 5, 2014
  5. mcgameboy

    mcgameboy Screenieholic & Essayist CAG mm2

    Casual Stocktaker (Inventory Counter)
    Are you taking bonuses on all of these deposits? Are you getting "ahead" early on, only to then crash before you clear WR?

    Do you ever have a target withdrawal amount in mind when you start playing? If you do, maybe it is too high/too unrealistic?

    Anyhow here's what I think.....

    Betting $5 a spin when your bankroll is "over $100" is risky bordering on completely reckless. Maybe bordering on suicidal. You are making your window of opportunity to win so tight that you are giving yourself little chance to survive, let alone prosper. You need to give yourself some "wiggle room" in case you hit a dry patch. Because even the good sessions have dry patches in them at some stage.

    Sure, you could bet $5 a spin on your $100+ bankroll and then hit a monster. But what would you do then? Take the money and run? Or would you carry on playing and possibly increase your bets still further? Only to then bust out again? Only you can answer that.

    Once you have "doubled up" on your deposit, consider cashing out. Don't be "afraid" of the cashout button. The cashout button is your friend, because it enables you to live to slot another day. Don't get "too greedy". Loads of times, I have gotten too greedy and ended up regretting it.
    And in stark contrast to that, there have been occasions when I have stuck in a £25 deposit and as soon as I got to £50, I cashed out.
    Some people might say "£25 profit....pfft...big effing deal". I'd disagree. There's been times when I've been on a losing streak and I've deliberately cashed out for small profits just to get the "morale booster" that a win brings.
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  6. Dec 5, 2014
  7. shanetospin

    shanetospin Experienced Member MM

    Student- University
    Are you not just having very high expectations on winning big? Sometimes it is better to cashout small than to keep playing and waste it.

    Say you deposit £$20, and you reach £$100 with your bankroll- why not take that and withdraw? that is a £$80 profit and gives you the ability to play again either at the same place, or at a different casino?

    The question is, how many times have you for example deposited and reached triple the deposited amount and continued playing? because in fairness that isn't bad luck, it is bad judgement on your part. Maybe it would be a good idea to start depositing and saying to yourself that you will withdraw if you reach a certain amount- therefore reducing the "bad luck" and making some money back.

    Hope your luck changes anyway :)
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  8. Dec 5, 2014
  9. DepositSpinLose

    DepositSpinLose Experienced Member

    self employed
    british columbia
    hey thanks for the words folks.

    I rarely play $5 but thought I would mention it because I do once in awhile play 40-50 just to see if I could catch a bonus feature......lol I don't think I ever caught one.

    I try to get to $250 or more for a withdrawal because I don't have any wallets to get those quick withdrawals....I have to use bank transfers which can take up to a week to receive depending on which day I hit that withdraw button. I hate waiting that long, drives me nuts. I know I should cashout smaller amounts too but usually take the chance to hit a bit more. I understand it might just be me pushing my luck the odd time I am up but I sure love to hit that spin button. I just haven't hit that lucky spin to bring up my balance.:D
  10. Dec 5, 2014
  11. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

    then why not open a e wallet then? that would solve your waiting times , try playing higher stakes on different games you may find you can do far better than sticking with same games same bet , hit & run is best for netent imo )
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  12. Dec 5, 2014
  13. judgenico

    judgenico Experienced Member MM

    postal worker
    if its any consolation my experiences with netent are similar with yours,fancied a change of software have given netent a right good go at many different casinos but with no success.the base game on netent compared to say microgaming slots seems vary poor to me and any features ive gained and im talking literaly hundreds now have very rarely paid over 100x stake im obviously considering giving up on them
    1 person likes this.
  14. Dec 5, 2014
  15. rayray23

    rayray23 Dormant account

    Somewhere Only We Know
    I tend to cash out my initial deposit as soon as I have doubled my bankroll. I play with VideoSlots and PP mostly, and if I deposit 50 and get my balance to 100 I always withdraw my 50, play with the remainder and repeat.

    We would all love that big win, but I'd prefer to try to let myself at least break even the majority of the time. When I decide to try a volatile game with a €100 bankroll I treat it like buying a lottery ticket, a minuscule chance of hitting the big win, but it's fun to try!
    1 person likes this.
  16. Dec 5, 2014
  17. bruinsdude

    bruinsdude Senior Member MM PABinit

    Hang in there. The first 11 months of 2014 I struggled too. Deposited $50 ukash vouchers at least 4 times a week if not 10 some weeks, had two cash outs only both just over $1000.00. Dec 2014 changed everything. I discovered NetEnt, and possible a horseshoe up my @$$, and I have cashed out for $8500.00 total since Nov 28th at 3 different casinos. You just never know when lady luck will kick into gear.
    My formula is to bet $1.20 under $100, $1.50 under $200 and $2.40-$3.00 above $200. I rarely ever deviate from this, and granted some sessions are like 5 minutes and done, for the most part I can at least enjoy myself and get it up above $300-$400 often. My personal preference is to not cash out under $1000.00, but even when at a $500+ bankroll I don't go and bet $5 or $10 a spin to chase a big one. I would say stay consistent with your bets and everything else eventually falls into place :)
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  18. Dec 5, 2014
  19. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Bexhill on sea, England
    Well at least NOW we know why you chose that particular user-name! :p

    I think the obvious advice (from me, at least) is try some different games!

    In the last few months I have taken low-ish balances up to over €1,000 a few times at NetEnt casinos - though not all on NetEnt games, I have to say - and I haven't always hit the cash-out button when I should have :oops:

    I don't keep detailed logs any more, but here's some of my brief notes I made along the way:

    Vera & John, April: "Started play with €315 in my account: Went on Energoonz, €1 & 2 bets - hit a BIG win of €316 off €2! Carried on, occasionally doing €10 spins when I got loads of wilds + feature at this: Win €323 + free-spins €185 = 508 total. Nice! Bank just short of €1,000... but carried on looking for another good win and lost nearly €200. (Bank €800)
    Then JH2 at €2 & 4 bets took another €100.
    April-14th: Decided to risk a LITTLE bit more: EggOmatic - 2 free-spins, but poor. Was up about €25, but finished down. South Park - quite a few mini features and Kyle Spins, which were CRAP.
    Bank €650 - decided it's about time I cashed out from here for a change, before blowing it again."

    Leo Vegas, August: "Playing almost daily with the 200-ish in my account; going up to 300+ and down to 100-
    Then on August 28th I went on a MEGA-RUN with FIVE wins over x100 in a few hours!
    First were 2 almost back-to-back on Winter Berries, then Jurassic Park.
    But played on and lost £100+ on Energoonz. Bank on £180 I started playing South Park... and kept WINNING!
    Got to end of Kenny Bonus on a £1.75 spin, then a couple of £200+ from £3.50 features, then Kyle bonus on £6.25 paid £716!
    Peaked at about £1,900 - stopped on £1,800.
    After a bit more play on various games, I requested a cash-out of £1,765 on Aug-30th. Pay rcvd to my bank on Sep-1st!"

    Vera & John, Oct: "Started with €90 and doubled it on Eggomatic!
    Oct-14th: Played a few other games, then went on a CRAZY run on Energoonz!!!! Got to €400 & finally a couple of €10 spins paid off & took bank to €1,400! (See Screenshots - Wins under x100)
    Next day luck escape from Barber Shop: only 65 down.
    Cashed-out €800 - rcvd in 22 minutes!
    Played some other games (don't remember - but some Thunderkick) and lost down to €325.
    Then Lady Robin Hood FINALLY paid off & bank back to €500 Oct-16th.
    Should have cashed out more, but basically just frittered it away over the next several days."

    Looking back at that now, it seems I owe most of my winnings to Energoonz & South Park 1.
    Maybe give those a try?

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  20. Dec 5, 2014
  21. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

    International Money Launderer
    the bus shelter, opposite GCHQ Benhall
    I would usually agree with that, as I too always maintain that bankroll discipline and realistic cash-out targets are crucial to avoid scenarios like depositspinlose's. But we must add the term 'Netent Variance' to the equation here. I cannot believe I'd read a true and similar post if we were talking about IGT or Microgaming etc. here. This pattern of depositing, having little improvement on the deposit while having a longish session and yet never exceeding deposits by enough to warrant a cashout is classic NV.
    I cannot better Chopley's summary of this, that Balthazar dug out the other day.
    1 person likes this.
  22. Dec 7, 2014
  23. DepositSpinLose

    DepositSpinLose Experienced Member

    self employed
    british columbia
    ummmmmm, I actually won today:eek:

    ty Guts casino, you broke my losing streak! cashed out $370. felt like the first time all over again.:D
  24. Dec 7, 2014
  25. rshkrn

    rshkrn Senior Member

    Would strongly suggest that you open a skrill account immediately, so that you don't have to worry about cashing out......

    you deposit 50$....run it up to 250$, just cash out.......look at it like another 5 deposits of 50$ to take you further.....or a different casino...... I usually cash out almost always when I hit my deposit times 5-10.....

    no harm in betting big once in a while but try to bet big when you have say 200-300 spins worth in your account so you can bet big for say 40-50 spins and give it a try to hit that big one....
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