[discussion] limited bet sizes

brianmon

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That 111,111 stake is a one out of a billion spins tho. Ive checked various (table/card) games, there's no such thing as a bet limit on those games. If i wanted to play bj for 2500 a hand it's possible.

So who in their right mind believes that lowering slot-bets is for the protection of players. I could blast 2500 a hand easily on RTP based blackjack. Funny notice: the "fiches" on demo mode is up to 50, where real mode offers up to 500. I mean, come'on.
Don't forget that billion spins is made up from ALL casinos and ALL players combined. It's not down to each casino.
It probably doesn't take as long as we might think for DOAII to reach a billion spins, overall, on NetEnt's servers

Plus the figure of 111,111x stake in a billion spins is just an average. It doesn't actually mean it would only pay the maximum after a billion spins. It could pay it 3 times in that billion spins (or even more) or might not pay it until the next billion.

What if it happened twice at the same casino? That would be almost €4,000,000 at max bet.
There are only so many casinos who could afford wins like that.

Even at €9 a spin. the maximum win would be €1,000,000
 

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Casino's must have the financial backbone in order to obtain and hold a license in the first place. They stayed true and did'nt boot me out when i withdrawled 65k. Service wise i have zero complaints really, it's just the shift that's obvious for me at the moment and that i dont like to be a part of anymore.

I mean we play at a gambling establishment. We can win. And we can win depending on the stakes we put on the table, dont we. Then dont silly out and limit bets or have caps or any of that.
 

bamberfishcake

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All valid points i think, even Kroffes about lucky charms.

Thanks for helping me understand a little more all.

Agree )speculatively of course not knowing that much about this kind of thing) that its probably not for the safety of the player but its a funny old industry looking from the outside in, every opportunity to be 'seen' to be doing the right thing is taken and you would expect these businesses to quite often bang the 'looking out for our customers drum' at every opportunity as a 'go to' response.

It probably is more to do with liability i would guess and i expect these businesses to carry some financial weight for any eventuality so trimming opportunity from certain games would counter that necessity. It seems the bigger the player the bigger the selection of slots to me also now i think of it. Never really considered the max bet size.
 

brianmon

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Casino's must have the financial backbone in order to obtain and hold a license in the first place. They stayed true and did'nt boot me out when i withdrawled 65k. Service wise i have zero complaints really, it's just the shift that's obvious for me at the moment and that i dont like to be a part of anymore.

I mean we play at a gambling establishment. We can win. And we can win depending on the stakes we put on the table, dont we. Then dont silly out and limit bets or have caps or any of that.
65k is a long way off the 2 million it would cost for a max win, at max stake on DOAII.

I think VideoSlots was the first to be hit by a huge win, although it wasn't the max win.
They probably thought it wouldn't happen to them, and all the 'potential' was as hypothetical as a lot of other slots.
But they soon dropped the max bet size afterwards, and so did a lot of other casinos, when they saw that the potential was real
 

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The 65k was'nt from a single win, but a repeated bonus buying for 3 straight days untill i peaked at 70k or so. I withdrawled 65k scared shitless because i was under the assumption that this might be a withdrawl on which your account could be booted for. But again they kept their word and their service is a grade.

But yep; the limiting of betsize is real. When i tried another casino and finally had 24 spins on extra chilli on a 2k buy, i saw the potential this game really CAN have, rather then sticking on a limited buy of just 500 a time. My best win on Chilli was over 23k or so. Or a base game hit of 6k....

I mean make the moon shine and ill do magic.
 

bamberfishcake

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The 65k was'nt from a single win, but a repeated bonus buying for 3 straight days untill i peaked at 70k or so. I withdrawled 65k scared shitless because i was under the assumption that this might be a withdrawl on which your account could be booted for. But again they kept their word and their service is a grade.

But yep; the limiting of betsize is real. When i tried another casino and finally had 24 spins on extra chilli on a 2k buy, i saw the potential this game really CAN have, rather then sticking on a limited buy of just 500 a time. My best win on Chilli was over 23k or so. Or a base game hit of 6k....

I mean make the moon shine and ill do magic.

A little disappointed i cant bonus buy. I would have tried now and again i think. I hear White Rabbit was decent.
 

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Yes, the UK and some other country's have bonus buying banned. But not in europe. Personally i think it should be just there, at least i dont have the patience to go through 400 spins before something even hitting. But the UK has always bin a problem country in relation to gambling. The amount of bookies on certain area's and the rise of a shitload of problem gamblers is just stunning. I understand the decision of the goverment banning bonus buys and limit games of up to 2 pound a spin.
 

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A little disappointed i cant bonus buy. I would have tried now and again i think. I hear White Rabbit was decent.
You could always try it at the BTG site. Demo only (obviously). But at least you'll see what you're missing, or have been saved from (depending on which way your balance goes)
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A little disappointed i cant bonus buy. I would have tried now and again i think. I hear White Rabbit was decent.

That was one of the few games i liked a bonus buy. It wasn't as harsh in, if not playing THAT well, giving you under 50% of your stake back so you could normally have a good run of BB's on it. The rest i wouldn't bother both - like Extra Chilli which frequently fell on it's arse for me.

Removing the BB for WR means i don't play the game anymore as it's a brutal to bonus on, with there being literally no point in the base game.
 

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It suprises me that providers did'nt come up with something to make the base game more feasable rather then maintaining the same harshness the hell bonus buying can do to your budget.
 

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Yes, the UK and some other country's have bonus buying banned. But not in europe. Personally i think it should be just there, at least i dont have the patience to go through 400 spins before something even hitting. But the UK has always bin a problem country in relation to gambling. The amount of bookies on certain area's and the rise of a shitload of problem gamblers is just stunning. I understand the decision of the goverment banning bonus buys and limit games of up to 2 pound a spin.

Agree, but casual players shouldn't suffer because of this. There are already plenty of restrictions, for example in UK they are checking your money sources, do not allow the use of credit cards etc. If you pass all the checks, you should be allowed to bet more.
 
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