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[Nifty29]

Oh geez.....not that rtg backend screenie again.

There IS a folder called TOP DEPOSITORS. It doesn't say 'biggest losers' or anything like that so you are way off the mark Silc.

I would think that EVERY casino has such a list - how on earth would they be able to have VIP player classes or know who to comp etc??

I'm sorry, but this 'conspiracy theory' about players having 'stars' next to their names which allow them to win Random Jackpots is one of the biggest loads of garbage (imo) since the Iraq WMDs.

Seriously, if this is the kind of stuff that guides your choices then its no wonder you've fallen in love with the rogues. I'm not 100% clear whether you were saying it was a second $100 deposit, or a second lot of 100 depositS without a cashout, but if its the latter then it isn't the CASINO that's the problem, its YOU. There is NO way you NEVER had a chance to cashout in 100 deposits - NO way. (Unless you were depositing $1 a time and had a $1 bet).

You might be thinking that the rogues have a better rtp now ( they're dont, but anyway), but soon you will lose just like before because you're apportioning blame to the wrong party.

You might think im just being nasty, but I'm actually trying to help you....I've been there.

 

[KasinoKing]

As a FYI, Windward Hall Ltd. have very recently bought out 6 other Top Game casinos, including some of the "dodgy" ones listed above (but not Diamond VIP).
Winward have always been one of the better TG casinos IMO, so hopefully these acquisitions will start to turn the corner for this troubled platform.

KK

 

[Tengil]

As a FYI, Windward Hall Ltd. have very recently bought out 6 other Top Game casinos, including some of the "dodgy" ones listed above (but not Diamond VIP).
Winward have always been one of the better TG casinos IMO, so hopefully these acquisitions will start to turn the corner for this troubled platform.

KK

Topgame is truly horrible when Winward is considered to be one of the better ones.

 

[silcnlayc]

jod5413
: But it seems to me that your choice is not making you happy. Your posts are all filled with vitriolic language. A happy player wouldn't need to keep repeating the same old song and dance like you do about the "accredited casinos" here at Casinomeister.

Just my thoughts, no offense intended. Truly.

None Taken (offense that is) I do not see my post as vitriolic language..just what has been happening in the last few months vs what I went through with the "good" casinos. I know I am not the only one that has felt this way but I guess I am the one of the few that will admit to moving on in the name of fun/money/and play. If it sounded as bad as you say (which I reread it a few times and I do not see it) then that is my bad..I never meant for it to sound as bad as you claim it does. Apologies..on the way it was written..but I still hold that we in the USA are held captive by these "good " casinos and they know it...unless one breaks free of the mentality that they are THE ONLY place to play. A happy player, as you claim, would not continue to post complaints against the "good" casinos as much as they do, either, now would they, if they were "all that" and more and more players continue to do just that as the forum shows. I am not repeating any same old song..this is a new song...I do not see where I ever said I have broken free of the chains that bound me...or see where I ever said I am extrememly happy with what I decided. I do not recommend them to anyone, but this choice was good for me.

Nifty29: I'm sorry, but this 'conspiracy theory' about players having 'stars' next to their names which allow them to win Random Jackpots is one of the biggest loads of garbage (imo) since the Iraq WMDs.

Nifty, it is ok that you feel that way. It is just my way of saying it,(supposed to be tongue in cheek) is that with all those neat little folders and check off lists (which I always felt they had), then what keeps them from not checking off a players name (in the folder such as big spender which IS there) to catch one of those? Can you prove they do not do that? I can finally prove they have those folders, now that we see them in print (as I always felt they had some kind of software in the backend controlling things) I am in IT and I am the director of IT and I do work in the backend of many companies software programs and big corporations so..I know these things exist to suit the needs of individual companies and now it shows that the casino world software programs too can do these things. I WORK in this field and know about the business backend protocol settings but have no acces to the casinos backend settings until now.

Seriously, if this is the kind of stuff that guides your choices then its no wonder you've fallen in love with the rogues. I'm not 100% clear whether you were saying it was a second $100 deposit, or a second lot of 100 depositS without a cashout, but if its the latter then it isn't the CASINO that's the problem, its YOU. There is NO way you NEVER had a chance to cashout in 100 deposits - NO way. (Unless you were depositing $1 a time and had a $1 bet).

Nifty, I had hit my second set of 100+/- deposits without a withdraw and I KNOW how to withdraw. Just as I have six times these past two tweeks...so to assume and place the blame on someone before knowing the facts and always assuming someone does not have control over themselves is extremely a mean thing to assume and say. Which is your norm and I accept that too. Of course I had a chance to cashou out...but I chose not to cash out less than I deposited...what is the point of playing if you deposit a sum and withdraw less than the deposit???

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[jod5413]

Honest to God, Silc, I meant no disrespect or harm. I have never condemned anyone for choosing their casinos to play at. (unless they are trying to get help for a withdrawal! )

You have always seemed to me to be a savvy player, and you are a very nice gal. Best of luck and go win a jackpot!!

 

[Nifty29]

None Taken (offense that is) I do not see my post as vitriolic language..just what has been happening in the last few months vs what I went through with the "good" casinos. I know I am not the only one that has felt this way but I guess I am the one of the few that will admit to moving on in the name of fun/money/and play. If it sounded as bad as you say (which I reread it a few times and I do not see it) then that is my bad..I never meant for it to sound as bad as you claim it does. Apologies..on the way it was written..but I still hold that we in the USA are held captive by these "good " casinos and they know it...unless one breaks free of the mentality that they are THE ONLY place to play. A happy player, as you claim, would not continue to post complaints against the "good" casinos as much as they do, either, now would they, if they were "all that" and more and more players continue to do just that as the f

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orum shows. I am not repeating any same old song..this is a new song...I do not see where I ever said I have broken free of the chains that bound me...or see where I ever said I am extrememly happy with what I decided. I do not recommend them to anyone, but this choice was good for me.


Nifty, it is ok that you feel that way. It is just my way of saying it,(supposed to be tongue in cheek) is that with all those neat little folders and check off lists (which I always felt they had), then what keeps them from not checking off a players name (in the folder such as big spender which IS there) to catch one of those? Can you prove they do not do that? I can finally prove they have those folders, now that we see them in print (as I always felt they had some kind of software in the backend controlling things) I am in IT and I am the director of IT and I do work in the backend of many companies software programs and big corporations so..I know these things exist to suit the needs of individual companies and now it shows that the casino world software programs too can do these things. I WORK in this field and know about the business backend protocol settings but have no acces to the casinos backend settings until now. Nifty, I had hit my second set of 100+/- deposits without a withdraw and I KNOW how to withdraw. Just as I have six times these past two tweeks...so to assume and place the blame on someone before knowing the facts and always assuming someone does not have control over themselves is extremely a mean thing to assume and say. Which is your norm and I accept that too. Of course I had a chance to cashou out...but I chose not to cash out less than I deposited...what is the point of playing if you deposit a sum and withdraw less than the deposit???

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Well some people will keep insisting that the sky is purple with pink polkadots, regardless of being shown it is blue over and over again.

The ONLY folder that has ANYTHING to do with this 'star' nonsense is the 'TOP DEPOSITORS' folder. For those like Silc who are struggling to come to terms with what that is, its a real time list of the highest xx depositors over a certain period. EVERY CASINO WOULD HAVE THIS TOOL.

Casinos NEED this info to:

1. Run their VIP program
2. Formulate special promotions I.e via invitation
3. Assign personal managers
4. Track high rollers I.e find out why theyre depositing habits change
5. Conduct misc assessments on player behavior etc

(This is by no means an exhaustive list)

The TOP DEPOSITORS folder is NOT for:

1. Deciding who wins random Jackpots
2. Increasing RTP for these players at the expense of others
3. <insert conspiracy-theory-du-jour here>

You think that these players in this folder WIN MORE JACKPOTS? Well they probably do.

WHY? I have no doubt that its because the casino has a special (not shown in the screenshot for security reasons) function that allows it to apportion special 'loadings' that dramatically increase the chance of these TOP DEPOSITORS hitting random (obviously NOT) Jackpots.

The higher RJ win rate amongst these players has absolutely NOTHING to do with the fact that these players:

1. Deposit more
2. Wager more
3. Play higher stakes
4. Play more spins (in most cases)

We KNOW for a fact that HIGHER BETS give you a BIGGER CHANCE of hitting a random, but I implore you to ignore this as it doesn't fit in with the TOP DEPOSITORS folder theory. In fact, it would be even better if you could ignore ALL FOUR points above to assist in understanding the theory.

It is also important to accept that if something can't be disproven then it must be true. Hence, all casinos have staff employed to watch players in real time and flick the 'WIN' switch on and off at will. One of these employees is also the Easter bunny.

 

[silcnlayc]

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[jod5413]

Sorry Nifty!

You had that one coming!!!

 

[Nifty29]

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That's the most intelligent thing you've said in this whole thread.

Well done!

 

[silcnlayc]

That's the most intelligent thing you've said in this whole thread.

Well done!

You mean I didn't do it as well as some pompous, narcissistic, self important person that replies to anyone snarkily ?? Geezes, I am falling down on the job.

Narcissist=Narcissism is the pattern of characteristics and behaviors which involve infatuation and obsession with one's self to the exclusion of others and the egotistic and ruthless pursuit of one's gratification, dominance and ambition.

In everyday use outside the field of psychology, the word generally refers to people who just are inordinately fond of themselves

Fits someone to a "t" and it isn't me...I bet you can guess who! I remember someone else mentioning this..but hey, who cares...I will repeat it since it seems many have forgotten just what it means and who enjoys wallowing in their own narcissism....forgot to mention that is is a kind of sickness...one that goes well with cookies and milk...

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[Nifty29]

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