Depositing at Videoslots again, because at least it works
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That clearly trumps this discussion.
I did not realise there was a direct correlation between length of service and knowledge
I apologise for my insolence.
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That clearly trumps this discussion.
I did not realise there was a direct correlation between length of service and knowledge
I apologise for my insolence.
Really why are you being like that, clearly I've upset you by stating I have found no difference in my play results play on a slot at 96% & a slot at 94%. I don't grind 20ps all day, I play with mixed stakes & have yet to see any difference in games.
Clearly if that troubles you so much about 2% then you should find another way for your entertainment 😉
Most of game providers only lower the top win, so you wouldnt really notice any difference if you dont hit max win. However, some game providers might do other changes as well.
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Not upset.
Just highlighting your comment about membership.
I do not concern myself with such trivial disagreements, nor give them much of a passing thought. Hence, why I often shoot from the hip.
Merely pointing out, as you also pointed out - how would you know because you will never do the spins?
And trying to highlight that 2% RTP matters. Let's agree to disagree eh
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Do you know what game providers do max win only to lower RTP? I would be keen to play those since I have never hit a max win.
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& this is why us older members don't engage like we used too we've been round the block a few times, things are always changing I've been playing online since it was created with the very first couple of online casinos offered.Not upset.
Just highlighting your comment about membership.
I do not concern myself with such trivial disagreements, nor give them much of a passing thought. Hence, why I often shoot from the hip.
Merely pointing out, as you also pointed out - how would you know because you will never do the spins?
And trying to highlight that 2% RTP matters. Let's agree to disagree eh
Age is wisdom along with a lot of online experience with slots.
2% is not going to affect me as a player I play for fun, when this stops being fun I'm off simples.
I doubt any player shall take on any new slots & hit billions of spins to which they have now to find out if the 2% really does make a difference.
It's not like casinos are going to change once its been lowered anyway)
Ps sorry for derail)
It's obviously a bad thing for players that RTP gets lowered, even more so if most will see that as par for the course.
Few may realize how much their favourite games are shafting them over extended, grindey sessions, given that most of the popular titles are outright intergalactic variance anyway - so if they lose £60 instead of £40 in pursuit of the Hollywood Hit, then so be it.
The days of plodding through low-deposit, let's-turn-£20-into-£100 sessions are all but gone, a relic of a bygone age, like when Macklemore ruled the charts. That's how long we're talking
Fact is, that 2% over duration will not be noticed on a modern slot, it just tends to get lost in the sea of 'fun' as dreams of NLC richdom cloud the players. Yet shear two percent off something like the original Bloodsuckers, and you'd find players not using it for their wagering tasks.
How the wins are distributed is key, and so I think an RTP reduction is almost moot in the high-variance climate we find ourselves in. However, casinos nerfing older titles is definitely not cricket, with them essentially ripping the tried & trusted mechanics out, to the point of not being viable entertainment, and players ditching them by default.
That was mainly in aid of clearing up the Aceking vs Bamber lover's tiff. I'm content knowing I've achieved that.
You've been a wonderful audience, thanks for listening!
Few may realize how much their favourite games are shafting them over extended, grindey sessions, given that most of the popular titles are outright intergalactic variance anyway - so if they lose £60 instead of £40 in pursuit of the Hollywood Hit, then so be it.
The days of plodding through low-deposit, let's-turn-£20-into-£100 sessions are all but gone, a relic of a bygone age, like when Macklemore ruled the charts. That's how long we're talking
Fact is, that 2% over duration will not be noticed on a modern slot, it just tends to get lost in the sea of 'fun' as dreams of NLC richdom cloud the players. Yet shear two percent off something like the original Bloodsuckers, and you'd find players not using it for their wagering tasks.
How the wins are distributed is key, and so I think an RTP reduction is almost moot in the high-variance climate we find ourselves in. However, casinos nerfing older titles is definitely not cricket, with them essentially ripping the tried & trusted mechanics out, to the point of not being viable entertainment, and players ditching them by default.
That was mainly in aid of clearing up the Aceking vs Bamber lover's tiff. I'm content knowing I've achieved that.
You've been a wonderful audience, thanks for listening!
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So I see VS are still ruining bonus rounds with their pointless YOU WON THE USELESS TROPHY THAT MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING EXCEPT SPOILING YOUR BONUS ROUND FOR YOU popups.
I have a big soft spot for Blueprint's Worms Reloaded (exactly my sort of low variance, high feature frequency type of game, and the JACKPOT KING element means I can at least dream of winning mega cash on it), and VS appear to be one of the very few casinos that still have it on their books, alas it's not entirely unusual for the bonus round to take longer to play out than VS want to take to pop up their stupid message I have literally zero interest in.
Case in point I just got the jet pack bonus round, made the mistake of replying to a message on WhatsApp before starting to play the bonus, and the popup appeared to tell me I had won the WORMS BIG WIN TROPHY so I knew it was going to be in the 15-20x stake range (30x or better (something like that anyway) is the MEGA WIN TROPHY).
I suppose I should go into my account settings and see if there's a way of turning off this tedious popup spam that I absolutely do not want, and have no interest in, that's intruding upon my slots session.
As you can see here, it basically told me what the bonus round result was going to be, before I'd even started it.
I have a big soft spot for Blueprint's Worms Reloaded (exactly my sort of low variance, high feature frequency type of game, and the JACKPOT KING element means I can at least dream of winning mega cash on it), and VS appear to be one of the very few casinos that still have it on their books, alas it's not entirely unusual for the bonus round to take longer to play out than VS want to take to pop up their stupid message I have literally zero interest in.
Case in point I just got the jet pack bonus round, made the mistake of replying to a message on WhatsApp before starting to play the bonus, and the popup appeared to tell me I had won the WORMS BIG WIN TROPHY so I knew it was going to be in the 15-20x stake range (30x or better (something like that anyway) is the MEGA WIN TROPHY).
I suppose I should go into my account settings and see if there's a way of turning off this tedious popup spam that I absolutely do not want, and have no interest in, that's intruding upon my slots session.
As you can see here, it basically told me what the bonus round result was going to be, before I'd even started it.
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Most of what has been stated in this thread is speculation.
Anybody new to the game will read through this and get the impression that 2% doesn't matter, and it only affects the maximum win, which is wrong from what I have seen on game data sheets.
Lower RTP affects the hit frequency of bonus rounds, big wins, mega wins, and more, not just the max win.
Anybody new to the game will read through this and get the impression that 2% doesn't matter, and it only affects the maximum win, which is wrong from what I have seen on game data sheets.
Lower RTP affects the hit frequency of bonus rounds, big wins, mega wins, and more, not just the max win.
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Not sure what's going on with your account mate but I get these pop ups a minute or so AFTER the event.
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Anybody new to these games wouldn't know it was at 96% unless they've been playing for a few years, anyone new to online would be ah the games set at 94%.
Show me the proof that a lower RTP% does Indeed show lesser bonuses, there's more than one way to skin a cat, just look at the bonanza thread.
I'm not a slot developer but I'm pretty sure there are other ways better to get 2% from the wins not affecting the bonus rounds.
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The Goat lovers tiff haha 😄 😆 😂 🤣It's obviously a bad thing for players that RTP gets lowered, even more so if most will see that as par for the course.
Few may realize how much their favourite games are shafting them over extended, grindey sessions, given that most of the popular titles are outright intergalactic variance anyway - so if they lose £60 instead of £40 in pursuit of the Hollywood Hit, then so be it.
The days of plodding through low-deposit, let's-turn-£20-into-£100 sessions are all but gone, a relic of a bygone age, like when Macklemore ruled the charts. That's how long we're talking
Fact is, that 2% over duration will not be noticed on a modern slot, it just tends to get lost in the sea of 'fun' as dreams of NLC richdom cloud the players. Yet shear two percent off something like the original Bloodsuckers, and you'd find players not using it for their wagering tasks.
How the wins are distributed is key, and so I think an RTP reduction is almost moot in the high-variance climate we find ourselves in. However, casinos nerfing older titles is definitely not cricket, with them essentially ripping the tried & trusted mechanics out, to the point of not being viable entertainment, and players ditching them by default.
That was mainly in aid of clearing up the Aceking vs Bamber lover's tiff. I'm content knowing I've achieved that.
You've been a wonderful audience, thanks for listening!
Nothing to clear up I'm old, Bamber isn't or a guess that.
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Believe it or not, I think Bamber is in his late 60's
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As per my post Jono, I committed the cardinal sin of triggering the bonus round, then taking a minute or two to reply to a WhatsApp message, in which time VS saw fit to pop up some spam telling me what the bonus round was going to pay
So apparently I'm on a timer at VS to play out my bonus rounds on this game as quickly as I can, before it just tells me what the result is anyway....
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You do know you can turn the notifications off at VS so as not to see those popups.
not sure how as never bothered but do know it is possible to do,
I dont get the argument.
If a 2% difference in rtp does not matter, then surely going down to 92% would be fine, after all its just a 2% difference from 94% so no different to the 94%, and since 94% is just as good as 96% that makes 92% also just as good as 96%.
After that we can move to 90%, then 88% etc etc, as long as we only go down 2% at a time it wont make a difference.
When does it begin to matter?
The answer is of course that the moment you lower the rtp it matters, because you are getting less back.
If a 2% difference in rtp does not matter, then surely going down to 92% would be fine, after all its just a 2% difference from 94% so no different to the 94%, and since 94% is just as good as 96% that makes 92% also just as good as 96%.
After that we can move to 90%, then 88% etc etc, as long as we only go down 2% at a time it wont make a difference.
When does it begin to matter?
The answer is of course that the moment you lower the rtp it matters, because you are getting less back.
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Hope it works as never tried it myself just knew it was possible.
Agree tho it is a major pain when you play a bonus round and get the message saying big win or mega big win sort of ruins it. Might turn them off myself.
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Am I missing something here It might make a big difference if you was playing ever single day & spending hundreds every day, most people don't play like this some people only play once a month so 2% really isn't going to show. Against 96%.
If it did go as low as 90% one would wonder if it was worth playing, I wouldn't bother myself but each to their own.
You get lower odds in Vegas people still play them.
It will obviously make a bigger difference if you play more, but it will always make a difference.
Even if its just the biggest hits that are made more rare on the 94% version of a slot it of course matters because you would have a bigger chance of hitting those big hits on the 96% version, even if only doing a single spin.
It doesnt really matter if the odds are better than in vegas, or if the rtp is higher than it is on scratch tickets etc because its irrelevant.
Lowering the chance to win might not matter to you personally, but it does matter and it does make a difference.
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Again its down to personal preference & in this case mine I've stated that I have not seen any changes in my play on games, but I'm.not going to sit on a slot spinning though 10000s of spins.
So 2% to me as a player isn't going to make any difference, if it keeps going lower then maybe, but I would just call it a day.
So 2% to me as a player isn't going to make any difference, if it keeps going lower then maybe, but I would just call it a day.
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Can confirm this works, I just got the jet pack bonus again, deliberately left it for a couple of minutes before starting the round, no pop ups.
Definitely an option to turn off IMO, especially since it's basically just 'session spam' you don't want when playing an online slot. (That spoils results for you!)
(Round paid 40x, but at least I didn't know that before I started jet-packing my worm around the planets!)
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