Demo play not the same as real - GameArt slots

[Steviedoo]

dan
you might wanna check those amatic games on demo mode too...wild shark just gave me tons of bonuses....and tons of winning spins which is very uncommon....that never happens in real play...i play it daily...

 

[dunover]

Hi guys,

I will put all games offline for now while we investigate this, and we take this very seriously.
I will keep you updated here.

Br,
Daniel.

Dan - I've got the feeling you've been round-housed here by GameArt and that they have given you links to their website, whether overtly or not, for your demo versions. The real-play games I believe are kosher but ALL their slot catalogue on their own website are 100% gimped with +++100% RTP demo versions; somehow your free play options seem to be linking to those, not the real-play server.

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hi Steviedoo,

Thanks for informing me I will also look into this.

Br,
Daniel.

 

[lnspin]

But where can we play Game Art slots in real play in the UK?

VS have them of course, but can not play them in the UK at VS?

So any other casinos?

Please let me know

Thanks

Im surprised anyone carrys gameart slots as that are all copy's of aristocrat slots. They even stole the images

 

[lnspin]

Dan - I've got the feeling you've been round-housed here by GameArt and that they have given you links to their website, whether overtly or not, for your demo versions. The real-play games I believe are kosher but ALL their slot catalogue on their own website are 100% gimped with +++100% RTP demo versions; somehow your free play options seem to be linking to those, not the real-play server.

Do you not notice all the slots are copies and fake versions or aristocrat slots?

 

[Dantos]

I used to play demo mode at Paddy Power's mobile casino 2-3 years ago, on Top Gun (Playtech). I can say 101% sure that the RTP in fun mode on this game was maybe 500% or even more. Every bonus round was almost full screen wilds, i swear. And the bonus hit very often. On max bet every win was like 500K or more.
I didn't play real money Top Gun in Paddy Powers, instead i played it on Bet365 (both casinos are pretty much the same). Needless to say i lost my money without any big bonus wins.
Now, as my country is restricted to their casino, i don't know if its still the same.

 

[dunover]

GameArt have been going 4 years now and they do actually have IOM and Alderney licenses as well as Malta, but no UKGC hence the UK cannot play them at VS. Yes, most of their catalogue are 'tribute' slots but hey, what's Play'n Go's Book Of Dead, or Netent's Reel Steal? Watch my forthcoming IGT review and tell me which slot they've ripped off there? If you saw the database of 170 developers and their games I look after, then you'd see GameArt aren't unusual. The relationship between slot developers can be very incestuous with ex-employees starting new ventures or associated ventures and often they have similar slots to their platform provider who services the multiplatform casinos. I can name 30 developers with a Book Of Ra Deluxe 'tribute' and about 25 with St*rb*rst. then look at Bally's Thunderhorn and Aristocrat's Buffalo! It's not the graphics, sounds or math model you need to worry about, but whether the games are fully audited and kosher.

RTG's Asgard and Genesis Gaming's Olympus are blatant rips of Thunderstruck 2. I could go on, but I'll end up like my missus......

 

[Jasminebed]

Hi guys,

I will put all games offline for now while we investigate this, and we take this very seriously.
I will keep you updated here.

Br,
Daniel.

Dan, game is still live, and demo mode too. This is both desktop and mobile.

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hi Jasminebed,

I have sent you a PM.

Br,
Daniel.

 

[trancemonkey]

Hi Jasminebed,

I have sent you a PM.

Br,
Daniel.

If Jasminebed is right, and you still have the hooky demo version live, then i'm concerned and surprised. And you're probably very close to a complaint to the regulators....

 

[trancemonkey]

GameArt have been going 4 years now and they do actually have IOM and Alderney licenses as well as Malta, but no UKGC hence the UK cannot play them at VS. Yes, most of their catalogue are 'tribute' slots but hey, what's Play'n Go's Book Of Dead, or Netent's Reel Steal? Watch my forthcoming IGT review and tell me which slot they've ripped off there? If you saw the database of 170 developers and their games I look after, then you'd see GameArt aren't unusual. The relationship between slot developers can be very incestuous with ex-employees starting new ventures or associated ventures and often they have similar slots to their platform provider who services the multiplatform casinos. I can name 30 developers with a Book Of Ra Deluxe 'tribute' and about 25 with St*rb*rst. then look at Bally's Thunderhorn and Aristocrat's Buffalo! It's not the graphics, sounds or math model you need to worry about, but whether the games are fully audited and kosher.

RTG's Asgard and Genesis Gaming's Olympus are blatant rips of Thunderstruck 2. I could go on, but I'll end up like my missus......

Wildwood, or Wishwood or whatever it's called?

 

[trancemonkey]

Hi PMKFRUITPRO,

You can play demo mode when you are not logged into your account.

Br,
Daniel.

I assume this is not UK facing then, as demo mode should no longer be accessible unless logged in OR it's on the developers website and the person agrees they are over 18 - under the UKGC guidelines if i'm not mistaken?

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hi trancemonkey,

Gameart is not available for players from the UK.

Br,
Daniel.

 

[Jasminebed]

Thunderbird was available to me via my recently played games tab. You can't find it using the search function.

 

[lnspin]

GameArt have been going 4 years now and they do actually have IOM and Alderney licenses as well as Malta, but no UKGC hence the UK cannot play them at VS. Yes, most of their catalogue are 'tribute' slots but hey, what's Play'n Go's Book Of Dead, or Netent's Reel Steal? Watch my forthcoming IGT review and tell me which slot they've ripped off there? If you saw the database of 170 developers and their games I look after, then you'd see GameArt aren't unusual. The relationship between slot developers can be very incestuous with ex-employees starting new ventures or associated ventures and often they have similar slots to their platform provider who services the multiplatform casinos. I can name 30 developers with a Book Of Ra Deluxe 'tribute' and about 25 with St*rb*rst. then look at Bally's Thunderhorn and Aristocrat's Buffalo! It's not the graphics, sounds or math model you need to worry about, but whether the games are fully audited and kosher.

RTG's Asgard and Genesis Gaming's Olympus are blatant rips of Thunderstruck 2. I could go on, but I'll end up like my missus......

Do these slots have all have the same image, or do they just steal the image from the original game? How about showing symbols on reels that dont appear, on a few of their slots they show wilds on reel 1 and 5, but you cannot hit them on reel one and 5, so would showing symbols on reels that cannot be hit deemed honest?

 

[dunover]

Do these slots have all have the same image, or do they just steal the image from the original game? How about showing symbols on reels that dont appear, on a few of their slots they show wilds on reel 1 and 5, but you cannot hit them on reel one and 5, so would showing symbols on reels that cannot be hit deemed honest?

Lazy graphics that's all. Microgaming's Hitman slot shows expanding wilds whizzing by on reels 1 and 5 where you can't get them. Nothing sinister.

 

[GC_Konstantin]

dan
you might wanna check those amatic games on demo mode too...wild shark just gave me tons of bonuses....and tons of winning spins which is very uncommon....that never happens in real play...i play it daily...

I guess the slots from some certain providers are actually more enjoyable in fun mode rather than cash mode !

 

[ladyhawke]

Do these slots have all have the same image, or do they just steal the image from the original game? ...

That is a little harsh, as many of the images are not copyrighted, and consequently as they are royalty free, are available to anyone who chooses to use them, e.g. look at the number of slots from different providers who all use the same 'lucky cat' image.

 

[ladyhawke]

While I do appreciate a speedy reply, there is no way you could have spent any time at all investigating my claim. I realize lucky streaks happen, but day after day to over 1000 - 2800x bet size in short periods of time?

Probably "up" 400,000 in about 6 hours of demo play. Hit frequency for the bonus round on an average of approximately every 25 spins?

I'm hoping a few more players will try this and see if they have similar results.

Strangely enough, this happened to me at VS two days ago - up nearly 150k in a few hours, then played again and up over 90k before I called it quits. No way is this normal.

 

[Steviedoo]

Well you can still play amatic games ...

And no way is fun mode same as real mode for these games either....

 

[BrianGhattas]

I can’t “win” on demo play. I go to Unibet to play demo versions of Net Ent and I can’t get a bonus. Makes me feel a little better about the substandard choices in Ontario.

 

[dunover]

OK, this thread has been quietly allowed to drop off the radar yet is very SERIOUS!
Any news on why these games' demo modes were obviously bent???

 

[goatwack]

Wow. It will get their attention now, that's for sure

It's one step short of being in neon lights. Go in to space and you'll see the Great Wall of China and this thread title

 

[Steviedoo]

OK, this thread has been quietly allowed to drop off the radar yet is very SERIOUS!
Any news on why these games' demo modes were obviously bent???

Videoslots pulled the gameart games but the Amatic games are still there.

Fun mode on these pay really well. Lol.

 

[Savatage79]

Yea to me this one is the oldest trick in the book.. They get ya all pumped up thinking oooo look how good they hit and then you're out like a grand before you can blink.

I've tried a ton of demos and there's no way... Absolutely no way they're working on the same reels.